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Or, if you are the Leaders of the Watchtower / JW Org, then you spend your time playing with numbers and dates to pretend you know more than other people do. 

Are you a politician ? You act like one. Sly persuasive words. 
Now how about the idea of 'taking down' anyone whom you see working against God's will ?
Such as the Leaders of the Watchtower / JW Org that are deliberately insulting God and Christ. 
Remember the Nation of Israel.  Remember Jerusalem. Remember it's destruction. 
Having a form of Godly devotion,,, 2 Timothy 3 : 5
Berean Study Bible
having a form of godliness but denying its power. Turn away from such as these! 
Giving false promises, false dates for Armageddon, has caused stumbling, it wasn't 'doing God's will' 
And CSA, well I've no need to explain. The blood guilt lies on the hands of the W/t leaders. 
 

“Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” (Acts 4:12) “For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself a ransom for all …” (1 Timothy 2:5) “There is one body and one Spirit … one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.” (Ephesians 4:4) Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.” (John 14:6) “I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and find pasture … I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.” (John 10:9) My church, Calvary Church this is what we believe and go by. It's not Calvary church that we turn to for salvation, it's not the building. We go straight to and through Jesus for our salvation. Which is a stark contrast to this bold statement:
"Come to Jehovah's organization for salvation" Watchtower 1981 Nov 15 p.212

That guilt will also include every single JW that continues to seek guidance from the governing body:
”False prophets and those who seek their guidance will all be punished for their sins.” Ezekiel 14:10

Because of false predictions God was against the prophets of Israel.
'This is what the Almighty LORD says: Your predictions are false, and your visions are lies. That is why I'm against you, declares the Almighty LORD.” Ezekiel 13:8
and God doesn’t change (Numbers 23:19), so by connecting the dots we can see who God is against today.

The effort put out to become a JW is NOTHING. JWs came to us, or we were born into this religion.  The effort needed to leave the organization, leave any life and loved ones we knew while in it, accepting any persecution and ridicule that is said about us...and remain committed to serve the Father and the Son in truth, takes every ounce of effort and faith we can muster.  Luke 6:22; Matt 5:11; 2 Tim 3:12
But the gift we receive for our devotion and love, is precious.
"Therefore Jesus said again, “Very truly I tell you, I am the gate for the sheep. 8 All who have come before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep have not listened to them. 9 I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. They will come in and go out, and find pasture. 10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full."  John 10:7-10
Jesus, the small gate, promises life to the full; unlike an organization that promises the "best life ever" while it leads people down a a broad road littered with false predictions and false doctrine.
 
 

Thank you for Ezek 14:10.
"The word of the Lord came to me: 13 “Son of man, if a country sins against me by being unfaithful and I stretch out my hand against it to cut off its food supply and send famine upon it and kill its people and their animals, 14 even if these three men—Noah, Daniel and Job—were in it, they could save only themselves by their righteousness, declares the Sovereign Lord."  Ezek 14:12-14
We already see the effect of spiritual famine in the organization.  Their magazines are becoming less with each year.  They rely on the influence of sight, sound, and emotional persuasion in their videos.  They don't rely on God or God's word in Jesus Christ.  
“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."   Matt 7:13,14
The word "narrow" can mean "trouble, afflict, suffer tribulation".  Jesus was telling us that the act of leaving...the broad road of destruction where false prophets have led God's people into spiritual famine...to follow his teachings, IS the advent of the great tribulation.  
 

That guilt will also include every single JW that continues to seek guidance from the governing body:
”False prophets and those who seek their guidance will all be punished for their sins.” Ezekiel 14:10

Because of false predictions God was against the prophets of Israel.
'This is what the Almighty LORD says: Your predictions are false, and your visions are lies. That is why I'm against you, declares the Almighty LORD.” Ezekiel 13:8
and God doesn’t change (Numbers 23:19), so by connecting the dots we can see who God is against today.

That guilt will also include every single JW that continues to seek guidance from the governing body:
”False prophets and those who seek their guidance will all be punished for their sins.” Ezekiel 14:10

Because of false predictions God was against the prophets of Israel.
'This is what the Almighty LORD says: Your predictions are false, and your visions are lies. That is why I'm against you, declares the Almighty LORD.” Ezekiel 13:8
and God doesn’t change (Numbers 23:19), so by connecting the dots we can see who God is against today.

That guilt will also include every single JW that continues to seek guidance from the governing body:
”False prophets and those who seek their guidance will all be punished for their sins.” Ezekiel 14:10

Because of false predictions God was against the prophets of Israel.
'This is what the Almighty LORD says: Your predictions are false, and your visions are lies. That is why I'm against you, declares the Almighty LORD.” Ezekiel 13:8
and God doesn’t change (Numbers 23:19), so by connecting the dots we can see who God is against today.

I remember, years ago, when I tried to expose a great evil that stalked the Earth ……. to no avail.
I got the Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot, and Jackie Onassis all together in the same photo, and my camera jammed. 

I take this back.  They know more than I give them credit for.   They have tried to shut down Pearl Doxsey's  blog many times over the years.  They have stolen phrases from her writings and incorporated them in their talks.  It is as Splane said, "this is war" - of truth against their lies.   They are diligent at sending out their spies to shut down all who reveal their lies.  

I’ve been here 5-6 years and left several links to articles explaining why the Wt exists, and where truth can be found, and what to expect for spiritual food in the last days. I can’t give you an address, I can give you a website.  I have left links to spiritual food offered by one chosen by God, to reveal the end time message to His people. (Mal 3:1-4; Matt 17:11; Rev 11:1-3)   I haven’t kept it a secret, but I’m not sure what you want, another organization?  This isn’t God’s plan. (John 4:24) I am part of a small congregation that understands what is about to happen to the GB and then to the organization. (Rev 19:20) They know that the “man of lawlessness” evident in the organization as the elder body, will be destroyed by God’s word in Jesus Christ ,at his coming. (2 Thess 2:7,8)  They know that truth is being restored.   We are close to all of these things being fulfilled.  This is the time not only of the great tribulation, but of the “marriage feast”, and all are invited.
Think about it.  The Wt. admits that Revelation's scrolls won't be opened until...after Armageddon?  And they tell JWs that these scrolls hold information that will be used in the Kingdom?  No.  These scrolls EXPLAIN Revelation. (Dan 8:26)  They explain what Armageddon is about.  Since these men have no insight, who told them that the scrolls  haven't been opened by Christ yet?  And what about the "marriage feast of the Lamb"?  When is that to occur?  Do they know?  They know nothing, but pretend they do.  And we know how far that has gotten them.  There are inspired anointed ones today, who are given understanding of what to expect in the last days.  
You are wise to see the hypocrisy and can detect the lies.  I just think your faith is somewhat lacking. I think we all struggle with that at times. We let our own desires rule our spiritual decisions, instead of letting God and Christ lead us where we should go.   I haven’t held back the invitation to understanding, but always offer it to anyone interested who is leaving the Wt.  (Matt 22:8,9)  The “marriage feast” is the opening of Revelation’s scrolls. (Rev 1:1,2; 5:9,10) It is insight into God's Word.  It tells us how the message of all of the prophets comes together at the time of the end.  (Rev 22:6)   I still encourage you to have faith and approach God.  Ask Him if I am wrong.  If you truly want to know where to find truth, ask Him.

The beliefs that “these three” have, allows them to sit at the same table, eat lunch together or drink coffee. Whether they hang out together or not, whether they become friends or not is a matter of their personal choice.
JW members are instructed not to associate with non-JW people unless they are preaching to them or running a BS with them. Furthermore, there are JWs who cannot stand some other JWs, and this can be seen especially in the class of elders.
I am disappointed about your "suggestions"  
 

I suppose that's why some people are terrotists. They haven't found anything better. So they just go on killing people. 
The Watchtower / JW Org does the same but in a sly way. They kill people spiritually and d/fed people and tell families not to talk to them. Hence some people commit suicide, but the JW's don't care. 
They still allow CSA and still hide the Pedophiles in the Org. And then they tell all the JWs that it's all lies, whilst at the same time paying out thousands in hush money.  Are they still hiding that Pedophile Database in America ? 
The pathetic one is you and any other JW that sticks with the Org because you are frightend to serve God through Christ.  
One point being that by staying in that Org you are agreeing to teach Lies to other people. You know that a so called Bible study is 75% reading from a GB written book, and 15% chatting, leaving only 10% real BIBLE study.  And even that is from the Watchtower 'inspired' Bible.  
I can understand that you and other JWs don't want to see how much damage your Watchtower/JW org/GB, have done and are still doing to people. 
Those core teachings from the scriptures which you harp on about have been known by the Bible Students for over a hundred years and more. So, all the Org has done is to put lies on top of it all. False predictions, man made rules, and harshness. And as @Witness mentions, the treading down of the Anointed by the Elders, which is one of the rules from the GB. 
I actually think it is very sad that JWs continue to deliberately sin, just becasue they don't know a 'better way' to live. 
 

This couldn't have been more clear.  
I think that they put the total blame for failed teachings on the leadership.  I have even heard JWs question if they are guilty or not, for following leaders who sorely miss the mark.  The reigns are so tight, that no matter what is taught, they feel obligated to recognize those whom they have been told "Jehovah" has picked to lead them...and of course, as it is always brought up, these men are "imperfect".  What a strong, persuasive trap that has developed.  
"Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience."  Eph 5:6
"The same judgment will happen
to both people and priests.
I will punish them for their ways
and repay them for their deeds."  Hos 4:9
"Then I heard another voice from heaven:
Come out of her, my people,
so that you will not share in her sins
or receive any of her plagues.
5 For her sins are piled up to heaven,
and God has remembered her crimes."   Rev 18:4,5
 

I have just been commenting on a Facebook topic and I made a point of stating that one reason people have lost faith in God is because the JWs have been working against God by their making false predictions for Armageddon. 
Can you imagine how many people will have been turned away from God by the stumbling blocks of the Watchtower / JW org ???????? The guilt that the Watchtower / JW Org and GB must carry for all their lies and false prophecies. 

https://www.bitchute.com/video/xjc2gV4Ix2Ho/
 

I wonder if Joan actually watched it, or if it was just some knee-jerk reaction to being decent.
 

That was informative. Thanks for the link!

https://www.bitchute.com/video/xjc2gV4Ix2Ho/

Did someone say it is a personal choice to get the vaccine?  Not really; that is, if one wants to retain "privileges".  
Can't open the file here.   This was a letter to "All Special Full-Time Servants at Bethel and in the Field" dated 8/6/2021
After stating that the getting the vaccine is a personal choice, it ends by saying, "In view of the above, we have asked the Health Care Department (HCD) to contact you to learn your current vaccination status.  If for some medical reason you are unable to be vaccinated, please inform the HCD accordingly.  They may be able to provide assistance".
 
 

It proves that the Watchtower / JW Org needs to provide a 'carrot', a bribe, a false promise.
So the next question needs to be. What will God or Christ replace this with ? 

This question that you asked, hit the core. WTJWorg with GB leadership has been supporting its own chronology of past and future events for decades. Certainly, most of the effort was invested in proving that "Armageddon is at the very door" and that it will happen in a certain period of time. Sometimes this included a precisely expressed year, sometimes a short period bounded by the lifespan of a “generation” or the end of a century (e.g., the 20th century).
Indeed, should one have faith and confidence in the “spiritual food” that comes from GB forecasters?

"JEHOVAH GOD is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning—yes, their foolish, fleshly thinking!"w97 5/1 p. 8
I found this wt. quote after answering a JW on reddit with this comment.  For any JW passing through here...
Do you remember the cover of the 5/15/1984 Awake magazine? If not, you can look up its image on Google. Do you think that God knew that this was a lie before time showed that your leaders failed in their prediction? The world calls people that do this, false "prognosticators”. I think even your writers have used this term in references to false prophets.
Yes, God was aware it would fail. In light of all the dates set by your organization for Armageddon, did God know each one would fail? Yes, of course. Did He say, “well even though these leaders have misled thousands with their promises that didn’t hold true, and even though they took their message of error to people’s homes world-wide, misleading them with a teaching that will certainly prove to be false, I will bless them with abundance of spiritual food!”
Really? Show me where in the scriptures God approves of falsehoods – false teachings. These are only the blatant untruths, made by your leadership. The list is very long.
God is looking for people to come out of your organization where darkness and rotten fruit is found. (Matt 7:15-20; John 3:19,20) He wouldn't demand that people remain where He knew Christ's teachings were abandoned for men's doctrine. You've got it all wrong, sir.
“I will use my power against the prophets who see false visions and predict things that don’t come true. They will not help my people make decisions or be recorded in the records of the nation of Israel. They won’t even enter Israel. Then you will know that I am the Lord.” Ezek 13:9 (GW)
Then the Lord told me, “These are the lies that the prophets are telling in my name: They claim that I sent them, commanded them, and spoke to them. They dreamed up the visions they tell you. Their predictions are worthless. They are the products of their own imagination.” Jer 14:14
This is what the Lord of Armies says:
“Don’t listen to what the prophets are saying to you.
They fill you with false hope. (like the people had, on the cover of the Awake)
They speak about visions that they dreamed up.
These visions are not from the Lord.” Jer 23:16
“A time will come when people will not listen to accurate teachings. Instead, they will follow their own desires and surround themselves with teachers who tell them what they want to hear. People will refuse to listen to the truth and turn to myths.” 1 Tim 4:3,4
 
So tell me, where is it said that God has turned a blind eye to false, failed teachings by your GB, and expects you to do the same? (Rev 18:4-8)
 
 
 How to Identify True Prophets
 
 
 
 

Look, as I have said before numerous times,  you have a different view entirely than I do.  If you feel that I am in the wrong and you are in the right, so be it.  You will continue promoting your belief and I will continue concentrating on my belief.  I will continue to concentrate on getting the word out to “my people”, to leave the Wt. (Rev 18:4-8)  And, I don’t take back any of my words you posted here.
But, there is one thing you stated.
Firstly, you said, “No one in their right mind would attest to the idea Satan somehow saved God's people in the Hebrew Old Testament. That in of itself, is blasphemy.”
And then you brought up an old comment of yours which for some reason has just suddenly disappeared!
“1 Corinthians 10:7-10, this passage is about Apostle Paul’s focus on those of Israel who succumb to murmuring and putting God to the test, and the "Destroyer" here is regarding God’s messenger sent to destroy – that is, if you take into account the context of the references.”
You are saying that God has his own personal messenger that destroys. Is this a righteous angel?  So, the God of life keeps at his side an angel specifically to destroy?
1 Cor 10:6-10 -
6 Now these things occurred as examples to keep us from setting our hearts on evil things as they did. 7 Do not be idolaters, as some of them were; as it is written: “The people sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in revelry.”[a] 8 We should not commit sexual immorality, as some of them did—and in one day twenty-three thousand of them died. 9 We should not test Christ,[b] as some of them did—and were killed by snakes. 10 And do not grumble, as some of them did—and were killed by the destroying angel.
The destroying angel – “ Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.”
“destroyer” - ὀλοθρευτής olothreutḗs, ol-oth-ryoo-tace'; from G3645; a ruiner, i.e. (specially), a venomous serpent:—destroyer.
Ruiner
venomous serpent
Who is the serpent in the Bible?  You know. 
Your statement that in this scripture, God has His own personal destroying messenger is the very thing that you blamed me for - “No one in their right mind would attest to the idea Satan somehow saved God's people in the Hebrew Old Testament. That in of itself, is blasphemy.”
When God removes his protection, the god of this world steps in...to destroy.  1 John 5:19