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Kick_Faceinator reacted to ApostaBabe Linda James in How would solid, controvertible evidence of Extraterrestrial Aliens affect your Theology?
aaaaaawh. So this was unserious.
A throwaway comment.
So would your comments about "waiting untill the 3rd page" to Space Merchant, ( or as you put it, a "throwaway unserious " comment ) fall under what is called, "bantering?"
I know, this may appear to be a socially awkward question. But I'm being totally serious as I'm asking this.
So TrueTomHarley, if that be the case, then you weren't meaning to throw him off ( and I would assume anyone else for that matter ) with your "throwaway unserious" comment, because it's form of "bantering?"
And again, if that be the case, then I could really use some help ( and/or patience ) and a lot, and I mean A LOT of time with adjusting to what has always appeared to me, 🙄 as a disturbingly strange way of socially interacting.
I've seen people appearing to be, and it has even been explained to me as being, a form of 😊☺ social bonding through a number of dismissive insults. 😳😲😬 Yet when I see them get to the worst possible dig or insult, they will literally bust out belly gut laughing. Both of them! I, on the other hand am just speechless, ( possibly even traumatized ) as they will high five one another through what appears to be a really good time between the two of them.
As I write out this comment, I am coming to realize that with so many of your comments that I have read here at "World News," for the last year or so, where I have thought to myself, 💭 "What a pompous elitist schmuck this man is," 💭 what you've more then likely been doing is, simply attempting to bond with other's here through "bantering."
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Now if you are willing help me with this "bantering" thing, just know that for all of my life, I have never been able to tap into that place of realizing or knowing the difference between bantering ( which = fun ) and bullying. ( which = abusive. 😥 a tearing away at one's soul )
Thanks 😁
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Witness in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance
How to use lawyers in court, seems to be their expertise - that and the basic elements of running an earthly organization. But that is the irony, isn’t it? Men who have failed to interpret the spiritual meaning of God's word over and over again, are telling JWs that they will teach the pillars of faith from the past. And that there is no doubt that the leaders will be in a literal heavenly office (using their knowledge of running a corporation on earth) when their Armageddon breaks out. They, will be exalted over all. But, about these uninspired men, the leadership said in 1959, An accurate knowledge of the future cannot be gained from such people.” Wt 1959/7/1 pg 389-390
How then, will they be able to teach those who were “inspired”? Isa 28:7-10 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+28%3A7-10&version=LEB
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Srecko Sostar in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance
WTJWorg’s explanation is that people need to achieve "perfection" in NW, so that they are then overtaken by the “last test” that will finally prove their faith, devotion to God and give the final answer to the “universal issue”.
Thanks for the comment Witness. Namely, you set a good example with the old patriarchs. But I would add more, if I may. Regardless of past or present faithful people, they prove their faithfulness to God as “imperfect” people. Why then should we prove the same as "perfect"? Well, isn't victory over evil greater and more glorious when you are imperfect than when you are perfect?
On second, about GB member Splane. What special "spiritual truths" would GB members told David or other people from past. Perhaps about "overlapping generation" or "monthly report", "clergy-laity distinction", how to use "lawyers" in Court cases about CSA, "blue envelops", "shunning policy" ...,??
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Witness in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance
This is the proclamation that the "day of the Lord" has arrived. 2 Thess 2:1,2 tells us that this announcement will appear to be from faithful anointed - even those who compare themselves to the apostles. 2 Thess 2:3,4 describes the existence of the Beast from the sea as the "man of lawlessness" taking over the Temple of the anointed priesthood. (Mark 13:14; Rev 11:1,2; Rev 13:1,2,5-7). False apostles give power and authority to the elder body/man of lawlessness to represent and prevent the priesthood from becoming one body in Christ. (2 Cor 11:13;)
Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of of the Lord had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits [c]as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
“I know your works, your labor, your patience, and that you cannot bear those who are evil. And you have tested those who say they are apostles and are not, and have found them liars" Rev 2:2
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Witness in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance
I’ll try to answer your questions. Really, the answers are all connected together, and the best help to understand is to go to the links I frequently provide.
Rev 20:1,2 - Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while.
When Satan was abyssed, it was a restriction of his power to deceive Christ’s faithful anointed, because we know there were those whose hearts were not faithful to truth, and who left Body and disconnected from Christ. (1 John 2:19; Col 2:18,19) But, we have the account in Luke 10:17-20 when Satan was abyssed – not able to “perceive” how to enact a great deceptive plan to gain authority and power over the anointed.
And the seventy-two returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in your name!” 18 So he said to them, “I saw Satan falling like lightning from heaven. 19 Behold, I have given you the authority to tread on snakes and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing will ever harm you. 20 Nevertheless, do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rejoice that your names are inscribed in heaven.”
This was the beginning of the “thousand year” reign of Jesus Christ. He never said his reign would be one of peace, as the Wt teaches, but division. (Mal 3:18; Matt 10:34; 1 Cor 1:11; Heb 4:12) It is a time period of spiritual war. (2 Cor 10:4,5; James 4:7) His faithful ones fought it with truth, and entered into the “kingdom of the Son He loves”. (Col 1:13,14) The unfaithful were won over by Satan – they became the enemies at the foot of Jesus Christ and the Father. (Ps 110:1-3; 1 Cor 15:24,25)
These faithful ones, never fell spiritually captive to the Wild Beast from the sea in Rev 13:1,2. They did not “worship” it, which is stated in Rev 20:4. (Eph 6:10,11; Rev 13:4) But, in the time of the end, before the Kingdom of God is ushered in, we find the anointed “kings of the earth”, (Rev 1:5) “overcome”/”conquered” by the falsehoods it promotes. (Rev 16:13-16; Rev 13:5-7) They had no “authority” to “trample snakes and scorpions”. (Rev 9:3,4) This time period is when Satan is free from his symbolic chains of “not perceiving” (the meaning of “abyss”). He then knew how to enact his plan to desperately preserve his kingdom and destroy those in Christ. (Rev 12:12,17; Ezek 21:21,22; Rev 13:1,4; 20:7,8; 16:13-16; 1 Tim 4:1; Rev 13:7,10; Col 2:8; Luke 21:24) https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rev+12%3A12%2C17%3B+Ezek+21%3A21%2C22%3B+Rev+13%3A1%2C4%3B+20%3A7%2C8%3B+16%3A13-16%3B+1+Tim+4%3A1%3B+Rev+13%3A7%2C10%3B+Col+2%3A8%3B+Luke+21%3A24&version=NKJV
So, In Rev 20, we see first of all, that Satan is abyssed. It is followed by the declaration of those heavenly faithful who never “worshiped the beast”. (Rev 20:4) They did not become slaves to men and to their idol/organization. (2 Cor 11:20; Gal 1:10) But then, Satan is let loose. (Rev 20:7) He gives the “key”, the inspiration, to a fallen anointed one and his dark plan to deceive the last group of anointed, is enacted. (2 Cor 11:13-15; Rev 8:10; 9:1) The organization begins developing. (Rev 13:5,11,13,15-17) From there we see that the “camp of the saints and the beloved city” – the last of the anointed on the earth – are gradually and then fully surrounded by “Gog of Magog”, including people from all nations with them. (Rev 20:7-9) The “beloved city” is “New Jerusalem”, the New Covenant promise of life that they are under. (Gal 4:26) Gog of Magog is another description of the two Beasts of Revelation 13 – One, comprised of “Gentiles” (iron); one coming from the earth, “Jews”, those under covenant with Christ. (clay). (Dan 2:40-43; 7:23; Rev 9:7-9 ) (Isa 64:8; 2 Cor 4:7; Isa 41:25)
They together, are the feet of Daniel’s vision of the statue, and the last power to come over God’s holy people. Is it not true, that the governing leadership has chosen to rule with, and as “Gentiles”, their army of elder helpers; while rejected the anointed “army” of God? (Mark 10:37-45; 1 John 4:20; 3:15;Matt 24:48-51; Rev 13:15,11)
The Greek word for “thousand” in Rev 20:2 is χίλιοι chílioi meaning:“plural of uncertain affinity; a thousand”
“The adjective χιλιοι (chilioi) means a thousand, but note that in the first century, people didn't maintain as strict an arithmetic standard as we do today. There weren't many instances of the number thousand (one thousand of the same things is quite rare in the real world) and when such a thing occurred, it was rarely necessary to precisely count them. In other words: our adjective χιλιοι (chilioi) rather means "a whole bunch; probably somewhere near ten groups of roughly a hundred each".” https://www.abarim-publications.com/DictionaryG/ch/ch-i-l-i-o-i.html
Revelation is symbolic, a book of signs. (Rev 1:1) To denote that a “thousand years” is a literal fixed time period in a symbolic book, goes against the meaning of the Bible’s “thousand”, in general. Even in the Hebrew scriptures, Jewish scholars seem to agree that “thousand” indicate a large approximate number. If Jesus’ thousand year reign lasted almost 2,000 years, this doesn’t contradicted the Bible’s meaning of a “thousand”.
“But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.” 2 Pet 3:8
We know that “death will be destroyed” when Armageddon comes to an end. (1 Cor 15:26) How then, could death be resurrected a literal thousand years later? The scriptures say that when Satan is free of his chains, he misleads “a number as the sand of the sea”. Those who do not escape his deceit, are destroyed. (Rev 20:8,9) The Beast of Rev 13:1,2 rises out of the sea. Isa 57:20 tell us what “sea” can refer to.
“But the wicked are like the tossing sea, which cannot rest, whose waves cast up mire and mud”.
So, from the “wicked”, the organization/Beast that “makes war” and surrounds the anointed, is born. (Rev 13:1,2; Rev 20:9)
Also, the “saints” cannot be surrounded a thousand years into the Kingdom, since they will be reigning with Jesus Christ. All who reign with him during the Kingdom had already conquered evil, death, and Satan’s deceptions. (Rev 12:10,11; But again, who surrounds them now? The elder body/man of lawlessness who has trampled down the Temple of God (1 Cor 3:16,17). (Matt 24:15,16; Mark 13:14,21-23; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2) They have the authority to rule over them, given to them by spiritual “harlots”/false prophets. (Rev 13:11,15; 17:3-6)
We have only this life, this time period to be judged. To think we must gain our physical youth and perfect mental awareness during a trial period in the Kingdom, is well, deceitful stupidity, and a slap in the face of Jesus Christ. Didn’t Satan use a similar tactic with Eve? Both Adam and Eve had life placed before them, but they chose to reject it. They broke their covenant with God. We have life placed before us in Jesus Christ. If we choose men, not inspired, to judge our spirituality, telling us “you will not die” if we remain under their corrupt influential organization, are we not like Adam and Eve, as we fall for their consistent 100+ year old lies? (Hos 6:4-10)
“Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life. 25 Very truly I tell you, a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live. 26 For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself. 27 And he has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of Man.” John 5”24-27
Anyone who believes and obey Jesus Christ’s teachings does not need to be tested one more time a thousand years into the Kingdom of God. Even the unrepentant wicked do not need to be tested one more time. We are all judged by what we do in this lifetime.
“Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned.”
I think we need to keep in mind that the teaching of a thousand years of peace is taught by the Wt. How many times have they deceived and twisted the scriptures over the years? Should we trust any of their teachings? (Matt 7:15-20)
Can we imagine faithful Job, Noah, Elijah, Isaiah, Abraham, Moses, Esther, Deborah, having to face yet another test after all they went through while on earth? How absolutely unfair of God to allow Satan to have another go at them. It would be unfair to promise that these will receive eternal life, only to withdraw that promise by allowing Satan to deceive them again, once tasting the bounty of God’s blessings. They, and so many more faithful held on to the promise of eternal, forever, never interrupted…life. These pillars will not need to be taught by anyone, as GB Splane sarcastically explained when speaking about David’s resurrection. He and his false teacher companions have sold their soul to the devil. (Luke 4:5-7).
The ancient faithful ones…“But now they desire a better, that is, a heavenly country. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them.” Heb 11:16
God is the God of the “living”, not of the eternal “dead”. Matt 22:32 Any faithful ones in the memorial tombs who have lost their physical life, are “living” to God.
So again, the thousand years of Christ’s reign is the “kingdom of the Son he loves”. This is when the anointed over the centuries are judged according to their love of truth, or their rejection of it and rejection Jesus Christ as their Head. It is a divisive spiritual battle that rages even until the end. (Eph 6:10,11) and a gathering of his priests to reign with him in the Kingdom. (Rev 5:9,10)
I mentioned that Wt. is Satan’s “magnum opus”, his greatest work of deceit against the remaining holy ones. Satan was “let loose” to put the plan in action on how to deceive the elect. (Mark 13:22) The advent of the organization, and particularly the lie of 1914, coincides with Satan’s release from the abyss. This event leads to the Great Tribulation/Armageddon now in progress. (Matt 24:21,9,15) It is not something seen in the world, as the Wt. says and which Satan plays into their proclamation, but it is spiritual. His “short period of time”, his “little while” to do his dirty work covers the life of the organization. (Rev 20:3)
Those who grab hold of the skirt of the (spiritual) Jew, come to the banquet, the understanding of Revelation’s scrolls - the “Marriage Feast of the Lamb”…even now. These “little dogs” who are leaving the now “apostate city”, (the organization and its leadership) and are searching for truth are just as important to God as are His priests who serve them, which is the assignment God has given to His “royal priesthood” - to be “ministers” to His children. (Mal 2:7;1 Pet 2:5; Heb 1:14)
Jesus didn’t turn his back on the woman who wanted her child healed. He would not turn his back on any who desire to find wisdom and truth. (Matt 15:27) To this “mountain” of knowledge in the faithful anointed Temple, Isa 2:2 tells us that just after Armageddon, “all the nations shall flow to it”. Isa 60:1-5; 11,14; Rev 21:24-27; Rev 3:9; 15:4; Isa 2:3,4 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isa+60%3A1-5%3B+11%2C14%3B+Rev+21%3A24-27%3B+Rev+3%3A9%3B+15%3A4%3B+Isa+2%3A3%2C4&version=NKJV
Again Jesus used stories as illustrations when he spoke to them. He said, 2 “The kingdom of heaven is like a king who planned a wedding for his son. 3 He sent his servants to those who had been invited to the wedding, but they refused to come. (foolish virgins, Matt 25) 4 He sent other servants to tell the people who had been invited, ‘I’ve prepared dinner. My bulls and fattened calves have been butchered. Everything is ready. Come to the wedding!’
5 “But they paid no attention and went away. Some went to work in their own fields, and others went to their businesses. (the duties and attention to “Jehovah’s organization”) 6 The rest grabbed the king’s servants, mistreated them, and then killed them. (disfellowshipping of those anointed who speak truth, Matt 23:34; Rev 13:15)
7 “The king became angry. He sent his soldiers, killed those murderers, and burned their city. (Rev 11:1-7; Jer 23:29)
8 “Then the king said to his servants, ‘The wedding is ready, but those who were invited don’t deserve the honor. 9 Go where the roads leave the city. (leave the organization, Rev 18:4-8) Invite everyone you find to the wedding.’ (Isa 55:1-5;John 13:20; Rev 22:17 The servants went into the streets and brought in all the good people and all the evil people they found. And the wedding hall was filled with guests.
11 “When the king came to see the guests, he saw a person who was not dressed in the wedding clothes ⌞provided for the guests⌟. 12 He said to him, ‘Friend, how did you get in here without proper wedding clothes?’
“The man had nothing to say. 13 Then the king told his servants, ‘Tie his hands and feet, and throw him outside into the darkness. People will cry and be in extreme pain there.’
14 “Therefore, many are invited, but few of those are chosen to stay.” Matt 22
As I mentioned before, total, eternal peace and life, with no looming threat of possible death, will reign in the Kingdom of God because that is what is promised. (Rev chapter 21) It will not be interrupted by an attack of Satan a thousand years into this Kingdom of eternal life. I cringed when I heard the GB member mention the Wt doctrine of a thousand years after Armageddon, during his video on the king of the north. Almost every doctrine offered by the Wt. either began tainted, or became tainted… or is totally opposite from what the scriptures teach from the get go. This is the poisoning of the “waters” by the fallen “star/anointed one. Rev 8:10,11
Why must Satan be released from the abyss?
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to ApostaBabe Linda James in Associated Press: Dateline Orlando Florida, June 7, 2021 - Entire Watchtower Bethel Class cartoon character staff known as "Caleb's Family" swallowed up by Florida Sinkhole.
I never even knew that this was a thing.
Wait a minute. Didn't governing body member Anthony Morris admonish the members that going to Disney World before doing a tour of Bethel would be......
Do you think that the unnamed Governing Body member at the seen of the sinkhole was possibly Anthony Morris the Third. Oh my.... I shudder at the thought.
Wow! A huge sinkhole. That must have been so awful for everyone involved. That's just so awful!
Evidently these kind of sinkholes are quite possible when choosing to build over what once was swampland or wetlands.
Come to think of it, the Ramapo media center that is intended to be built, will be built over wetlands.
🤦🙈🙉🙊😱
I just hope that with Jehovah's hand, all of that state of the art technology that will implemented won't be experiencing a huge sinkhole.
🐣🙏🏼🐥🙏🏼🐤🙏🏼
Now this is going to be interesting
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Pudgy in Associated Press: Dateline Orlando Florida, June 7, 2021 - Entire Watchtower Bethel Class cartoon character staff known as "Caleb's Family" swallowed up by Florida Sinkhole.
Associated Press: Dateline Orlando Florida, June 7, 2021 - Entire Watchtower Bethel Class cartoon character staff, known as "Caleb's Family" swallowed up by Florida Sinkhole.
A huge sinkhole approximately 85 feet wide, at the edges of Disneyworld's remote parking lot 9G opened up this morning at about 9:45 AM and swallowed up a New York Tour Bus chartered by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society for the Bethel Art Department's annual "Mousekateers Mashup", and disappeared out of sight into the limestone caverns that undermine most of Florida.
The only survivor, an un-named member of the Society's Governing Body and driver of the bus, and reported creator of those lost to the sinkhole, leapt from the front door as the bus's rear wheels crashed through the asphalt and slid to oblivion, and suffered cuts from broken glass bottles he was carrying in his pockets.
The bus slid to oblivion .... the driver staggered away across the parking lot.
Investigations showed that "Caleb's Family" had not been seen for several years now, with the general assumption had been they had already been thrown under a bus somewhere in New York State.
This is an on-going story and will be updated as more facts emerge.
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied
BUT, your GB and other Leaders will happily rely on Educated people when it comes to :-
Lawyers in court.
Building Warwick and buying and building Ramapo.
And where did all the computer knowledge come from, and all the filming / video technique ?
All of the above needed legal advice, technical advice, safety inspections et al.
Most of that comes from higher education, it is not learnt in the normal schooling of youngsters, and it is not by learnt online courses.
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Srecko Sostar in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied
By using this scriptures i see few things.
1) After Adam made wrong decisions, sin entered into the world in same second.
2) When Jesus made his decisions and sacrifice nothing changed for human daily life until today. All was stayed the same and his act not brought immediate blessings.
From the visible consequences (physical and spiritual), we could superficially conclude that Adam’s act caused more far-reaching and immediate consequences if we compare them to what happened after Jesus ’death. The consequence that came from Adam continues. The consequence that came from Jesus has only spiritual aspects and diminishes in the faith and hope of the believers ...... and that is where it ends, for now.
In such way looking on this two things made as to think more. Comparison of this two man is not so in issue of equality of them, as seems in first moment.
Next.
Adam "became a living person". Jesus became "life-giving spirit". Nothing looks similar or same. Two opposite and different outcome in their case.
Basics for faith is not in linear interpretations of these events.
Yes, people will not be saved by doctrines and interpretations, but by faith in Jesus and his sacrifice.
And deeds are related to faith.
If you believe that GB is more important than your faith in Jesus, as they provides guidance as “guardians of doctrine” and as they give their instructions on what deeds you should do to affirm your faith, then it is probably about some “degree of faith” that is marked mostly by literal, physical manifestations. Because of that faith, people go to preach, go to jail, don’t swear, don’t lie, etc. But that doesn’t save them from the “evil one” and doesn’t give them any guarantee for the future.
After "Last Adam" the effect is not seen. Or we took the biblical text too literally. The interpretation that it takes more time to prove a "universal issue" is not very convincing, because it is the life and death of Jesus that should conclude this dispute forever. He is "Last Adam", he is not the penultimate or just one in a series of "faithful people of old". He is milestone, turning point.
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied
That's a lot of words just to admit that you don't have an answer.
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Pudgy in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied
I have recently discovered that a good reply to the accusation that a person is wrong but obstinate, i.e. “you always have to get the last word in, don’t you?“ Is…
”Since you did not address my last point, and replied as you did, I DID get in the last word.”
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied
Once again we see a good Christian attitude from a JW.
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied
You write a massive STATEMENT pretending that YOU have this special knowledge but you condemn @Witness when she writes anything. Hypocrisy at it's best.
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Srecko Sostar in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied
lol.... so, other faiths have also God's guidance and blessings to find "the truth", not just GB !?
In my case, it happened that my mother and then immediately my father accepted the JW religion when I was 7 years old. Let’s say I was raised from a young age “in faith”. So it’s just such circumstances that I’ve been the most, and the longest considering my age, in the JW religion. So, what to expect from me? :)))
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied
Srecko, I think a TRUE theocratic system inspired by Holy Spirit, would not have the shortcomings and problems that the W/t / JW Org has. But of course it would suffer serious persecution from outside forces.
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Did everyone notice another book added to the Watchtower Library "CD" and the WOL?
Pathetic answer from a lady that thinks she knows more than everyone else. You may have seen Satan's big wide world, but you have not even glimpsed at Truth. You are so mixed up with your own thoughts of hate and OCD that you try to apply it to others.
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Did everyone notice another book added to the Watchtower Library "CD" and the WOL?
Serving the GB of JW Org is not the same as serving God through Christ.
And did God or Christ put you in the judgement seat to judge @Witness ?
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Did everyone notice another book added to the Watchtower Library "CD" and the WOL?
And now @Arauna joins in on the insults. These JW 'Christians' really love to insult people.
And the only reason you find to insult her IS BECAUSE SHE IS A WOMAN. If she was a man and saying that they were Anointed, you would lose all your ammunition. You seem to hate that women can be Anointed and that women can prophecy. But scripture proves that both those things are possible.
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Did everyone notice another book added to the Watchtower Library "CD" and the WOL?
Just more sexist and insulting comments from Tom I see. Does he really think he is a Christian ?
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Did everyone notice another book added to the Watchtower Library "CD" and the WOL?
So you too would have the Anointed in subjection to the Elders.
It seems you would have had Jesus in subjection to the Jewish religious leaders then. After all it was the scriptural thing of the day.
If Almighty God has anointed ladies, He must have good reason for doing so. And no Anointed ones should be in subjection to the non-anointed, non-spirit guided Elders.
I'm not saying Anointed ladies should take the lead, but I'm saying that ALL Anointed ones are more important to God and Christ than any 'earthly' Elder or any of the 'earthly' Leaders of the JW Org.
Please remember it will be 'for on account of the chosen ones' that 'the days will be cut short'. Those chosen ones ARE the BODY OF CHRIST.
As for
That must refer to your GB who presume they are the F&DS and presume to say that 'God and Christ trust them'.
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance
So, do the Anointed leave the Org ? If so where do they go ? Where is this camp of the saints and the beloved city.
Is it physical or spiritual ? You say it happens before Armageddon, or during Armageddon ?
Are you saying there is no 'thousand year reign' of Christ ? Are you saying that Armageddon is a war between the Devil and the Anointed remnant ?
AND, when will truth be taught to the 'little dogs', the ordinary people of this Earth ? HOW will people know how to serve God properly if all this is happening in 'secret' ? Will there in fact be a complete judgement of all mankind ?
I'm sorry but your 'teachings' are so totally different that you have to follow through with all situations regarding all peoples to be able to make sense of the scriptures.
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Could the JW.org sell off all kingdom Halls and become a full time Zoom religion complete with back room counseling and Disflellowshipping?
What we both need to prove, and not to each other, is our faith in God and Christ.
Surely you do believe that, With God all things are possible ? Because the things that are to take place here on Earth cannot be done by humans.
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Pudgy in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance
Perhaps someone else would be able to find the flaws in your logic, but for the life of me I cannot.
I hope that someone will find the flaws in your logic, Or I will have to take a nap until it’s resolved satisfactorily.
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance
God used the Egyptians and the Romans even though God did not approve of them. I'm not suggesting that God approved of Russell but God could have allowed Russell's work to 'wake up' some of the True Anointed ones.
So then, this would seem to prove that the Anointed are gathered in the JW org. Hence that Org has served some purpose for God. I'm not suggesting that God approves of the Watchtower / JW org, but that God can make use of them. How else have the Anointed all gathered in that one place ? And why has God allowed the Anointed to gather there ? Those ones are the Body of Christ. Christ has been given all authority. Is Christ allowing his Brothers to be there ? And why ? Has the Watchtower / JW Org served the purpose of 'waking up' more of the True Anointed ones ?
If you have read any of my previous writings here, you may know that I think the JW org will be 'taken over' by the True Anointed' when the GB are removed. Otherwise the Anointed will have to 'get out of her' and then form some other kind of Association. My feelings are that the True Anointed could run an Association from different parts of the earth. They need not all be in one country. Internet etc, communication is easy. And with Holy Spirit directing it through Christ 'all things are possible'.