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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance
Do you actually know who the Temple of God are ?
1 Corinthians 3 : 16 & 17
6 Do you not know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that the spirit of God dwells in you? 17 If anyone destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him; for the temple of God is holy, and you are that temple.
This was Paul writing to the Anointed ones in Corinth. It is the Anointed that are the TEMPLE.
So where do you think the Anointed remnant are ?
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Witness in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance
I think we have to remember that Satan has demanded to sift God’s holy people “as wheat”. (Luke 22:31) In the last days, when the last of the anointed are present, he uses a deceiving tactic to test them. If you’ll notice, the organization took awhile to develop before it could be said to be a full-fledged organization. Doctrines have changed from giving Christ his share of glory, to concentrating on “Jehovah” and even more so, the organization – an idol, the work of man’s hands. (Acts 17:24) Gradually, the elder body gained a foothold, a united "army" as it is called, and now it rules completely over the anointed ones; while these priests are told to remain segregated from one another. (Dan 8:25) The organization is a trap, baited with a little truth, and it has successfully led all anointed into it, over the years. (1 Pet 5:8; Matt 24:4; Luke 21:8) Why. Because this is last Satan’s tactic - his magnum opus - to “sift” the anointed as wheat.
God allows it. He allows us to make our choice. It will refine the anointed if they submit to Christ and leave the slavery to men and their earthly treasures. He allowed Satan to sift Jesus as wheat through temptations. Luke 4. He warned the anointed through the scriptures of what would happen to them in the final days. Jesus said false prophets would appear and deceive the “elect”. (Matt 24:24,25) That many would listen to a deceiving spirit (1 Tim 4:1) But, they took no note. They allowed their hearts to be captured by “empty philosophy” lies – all of them have. (Col 2:8) That's how powerful the deception is. Revelation speaks of this deceit that occurs as two Beasts – the organization (Rev 13:1,2) and the false prophets that guides it. (Rev 13:11,12) It calls it "captivity" by the “sword”, by the use of God's word. (Heb 4:12; Rev 13:10) The Beast of Rev 13:1,2 is the "man of lawlessness" that rules over the Temple/dwelling of God. (2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 13:18)
As @Kick_Faceinator said, Christendom has nothing to do with who the MOL is. It has nothing to do with politics. It has everything to do with God’s anointed and who they listen to, which in the organization happens to be the “wicked slave”/the two horned Beast of Rev 13:11, who beats them down with their elder body, into submission. Matt 24:48-51; Rev 13:5-7
The organization is a refining pot. (Luke 13:23,24; Matt 7:14; 24:13) We couldn’t see that when we were “in” and blinded. Only if one desires to search out authentic truth, are they saved from Satan’s dark trap. (Isa 29:18) God sees every minute detail of our hearts. He allows the spiritually “poor”, the “afflicted” to be set free, by opening their eyes to see the trap for what it is.
Satan is let loose from the abyss, the place of “not perceiving”, which allows him the ability to perceive how to devise his plan of deceit. He “gives” the “key” to do so, to those he wins over, with his “gifts” of power, authority and riches. (Rev 9:1,2) The anointed are described as “stars”, who should shine their lamp of light as Jesus did. (Gen 22:15-17; Dan 12:3; Matt 5:14) If they fall from God’s grace, they are symbolically compared to a fallen star. (2 Pet 3:17) Rev 9:1;8:10 speaks of a great star that falls from God’s grace. It falls on waters (of truth, John 7:38), but poisons them, with its teachings. Many people die from these waters. This star is a composite false prophet – the Beast of Rev 13:11,12.
How do I know that Satan is let loose to deceive the elect before Armageddon is finished?
Rev 16 mentions the Beast (organization) of Rev 13:1,2, and the false prophet…and Satan. The “kings of the earth” are the anointed members of Christ. (Rev 1:5)
3 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.”
Ok, so the anointed are overcome by a trap of deception, lies spoken by three – Satan, the organization and its leadership. Also, these teachings inspired by Satan, reach people all over the world who become part of the Beast. They are “gathered” together.
Rev 20 tells us more:
“Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. 10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.”
Gog and Magog are another symbolic description of the two Beasts of Rev 13. We get another glimpse of what Gog and Magog accomplish against the anointed in Ezek. Chapter 38:15,16. The pattern set then, is repeated symbolically today. There it shows us how the holy people are met by a “northern army”, which is also depicted as locusts in Joel 2 and Rev 9:3-6
In these two chapters, it tells us that the saints/anointed/priesthood are deceived and gathered into the organization. They are “surrounded” by the leadership, gathered for the war of Armageddon - a war of truth against deceit/lies. The Beast/organization “makes war with the saints” - against the temple, the sanctuary of God. ( Rev 13:5-7; 2 Thess 2:3,4)
There are several descriptions of the same event in the last days. The Wt. has taken these accounts and applied them to the political governments, or to Christendom. They have even applied the locust/scorpions of Rev 9 that torture God’s holy people who haven’t been sealed, to the anointed themselves.
The Throne of Satan
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Kick_Faceinator got a reaction from Witness in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance
I want to agree, I wish I could agree, but God wouldn’t have used Russell and is not using the Watchtower simply because of the fact they both are direct opposers of the apostle Paul’s warning to announce the Day of the Lord began before the man of lawlessness was revealed.
Paul warned:
“Don’t be so easily shaken or alarmed by those who say that the day of the Lord has already begun. Don’t believe them, even if they claim to have had a spiritual vision, a revelation, or a letter supposedly from us.” 2 Thessalonians 2:2
The Watchtower and Russell are the opposers of Paul who say it began:
“BACK in 1914, Jesus was installed as King of God’s Kingdom, and the Lord’s day began." - w88 10/15 pp. 15-20
Paul says don’t believe them. Who are we going to believe, the Watchtower, Russell, uninspired men?…or the inspired apostle Paul?
The Watchtower wants us to believe that the man of lawlessness is Christendom, but that is impossible because Paul said the man of lawlessness sits in the temple of God.
“Don’t be fooled by what they say [the Watchtower and Russell]. For that day will not come until there is a great rebellion against God and the man of lawlessness is revealed—the one who brings destruction. He will exalt himself and defy everything that people call god and every object of worship. He will even sit in the temple of God, claiming that he himself is God.” 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4
We know the temple of God are the anointed, not Christendom.
“Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst?” 1 Corinthians 3:16
So unless Christendom is somehow filled with Gods anointed ones that make up Gods temple, there’s only one place the man of lawlessness can possibly be sitting right now…
1914 is Satans game.
“This man will come to do the work of Satan with counterfeit power and signs [1914, world war 1, 2] and miracles.,” 2 Thessalonians 2:9
Satans got them by the throat. The whole Watchtower societies existence is contingent upon 1914 being true, but the fact is, the whole entire organization of Jehovahs witnesses, is a lie.
“For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie” 2 Thessalonians 2:11
If God we’re using the watchtower, he would be supporting the man of lawlessness, Satans man.
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Kick_Faceinator got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance
I want to agree, I wish I could agree, but God wouldn’t have used Russell and is not using the Watchtower simply because of the fact they both are direct opposers of the apostle Paul’s warning to announce the Day of the Lord began before the man of lawlessness was revealed.
Paul warned:
“Don’t be so easily shaken or alarmed by those who say that the day of the Lord has already begun. Don’t believe them, even if they claim to have had a spiritual vision, a revelation, or a letter supposedly from us.” 2 Thessalonians 2:2
The Watchtower and Russell are the opposers of Paul who say it began:
“BACK in 1914, Jesus was installed as King of God’s Kingdom, and the Lord’s day began." - w88 10/15 pp. 15-20
Paul says don’t believe them. Who are we going to believe, the Watchtower, Russell, uninspired men?…or the inspired apostle Paul?
The Watchtower wants us to believe that the man of lawlessness is Christendom, but that is impossible because Paul said the man of lawlessness sits in the temple of God.
“Don’t be fooled by what they say [the Watchtower and Russell]. For that day will not come until there is a great rebellion against God and the man of lawlessness is revealed—the one who brings destruction. He will exalt himself and defy everything that people call god and every object of worship. He will even sit in the temple of God, claiming that he himself is God.” 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4
We know the temple of God are the anointed, not Christendom.
“Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst?” 1 Corinthians 3:16
So unless Christendom is somehow filled with Gods anointed ones that make up Gods temple, there’s only one place the man of lawlessness can possibly be sitting right now…
1914 is Satans game.
“This man will come to do the work of Satan with counterfeit power and signs [1914, world war 1, 2] and miracles.,” 2 Thessalonians 2:9
Satans got them by the throat. The whole Watchtower societies existence is contingent upon 1914 being true, but the fact is, the whole entire organization of Jehovahs witnesses, is a lie.
“For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie” 2 Thessalonians 2:11
If God we’re using the watchtower, he would be supporting the man of lawlessness, Satans man.
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Kick_Faceinator got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance
I want to agree, I wish I could agree, but God wouldn’t have used Russell and is not using the Watchtower simply because of the fact they both are direct opposers of the apostle Paul’s warning to announce the Day of the Lord began before the man of lawlessness was revealed.
Paul warned:
“Don’t be so easily shaken or alarmed by those who say that the day of the Lord has already begun. Don’t believe them, even if they claim to have had a spiritual vision, a revelation, or a letter supposedly from us.” 2 Thessalonians 2:2
The Watchtower and Russell are the opposers of Paul who say it began:
“BACK in 1914, Jesus was installed as King of God’s Kingdom, and the Lord’s day began." - w88 10/15 pp. 15-20
Paul says don’t believe them. Who are we going to believe, the Watchtower, Russell, uninspired men?…or the inspired apostle Paul?
The Watchtower wants us to believe that the man of lawlessness is Christendom, but that is impossible because Paul said the man of lawlessness sits in the temple of God.
“Don’t be fooled by what they say [the Watchtower and Russell]. For that day will not come until there is a great rebellion against God and the man of lawlessness is revealed—the one who brings destruction. He will exalt himself and defy everything that people call god and every object of worship. He will even sit in the temple of God, claiming that he himself is God.” 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4
We know the temple of God are the anointed, not Christendom.
“Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst?” 1 Corinthians 3:16
So unless Christendom is somehow filled with Gods anointed ones that make up Gods temple, there’s only one place the man of lawlessness can possibly be sitting right now…
1914 is Satans game.
“This man will come to do the work of Satan with counterfeit power and signs [1914, world war 1, 2] and miracles.,” 2 Thessalonians 2:9
Satans got them by the throat. The whole Watchtower societies existence is contingent upon 1914 being true, but the fact is, the whole entire organization of Jehovahs witnesses, is a lie.
“For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie” 2 Thessalonians 2:11
If God we’re using the watchtower, he would be supporting the man of lawlessness, Satans man.
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance
Ok, I haven't yet read the rest of your comment but this, in my opinion, needs explaining more clearly please.
Those first five words. Who gives that directive ? and who made that statement ?
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance
Don't tell @TrueTomHarley, he doesn't seem to believe God or Christ can do anything.
For my part i think that leap you are looking for will come from the True Anointed after 'certain things have happened' which i am not allowed to write about for fear of ...................
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance
This scripture concerns the Anointed not the earthly class. It is only the True Anointed that have the 'mind of Christ' because they have been anointed as part of the 'body of Christ'.
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance
But the past gives a good or bad reference for the ones that are taking the Lead and for the W/t / Org generally.
Remember that your GB make a point of saying that God and Christ trust them. So anyone wishing to be part of such an Org should look at the past 'record of achievements' of the GB / Leaders / Org. And the past records are not a good reference.
You make reference to the things I was taught as a JW. Well I was taught about the 7,000 year creative days. The 6,000 years of humans life, then the 1,000 year reign of Christ. I was taught that the JW / W/t Leaders were inspired of God's Holy Spirit. My studying was from JW books, more than from God's written word, because that is how so called Bible studies were done, and probably still are. But most of those books are now considered 'old light', a good excuse for lies.
In fact I would think that most of what I was taught is now proven to be lies. The foundation of my confidence in the Org has gone, and has been replaced with........... I don't know. Replaced with the 'overlapping generations' and other excuses.
So when I found out about the massive amount of CSA / Pedophilia in the Org earthwide, and the way it was / is being mishandled, it was just the tipping point for me to know that neither God nor Christ approve of the GB or the org.
I agree with you that God / Christ may have used Russell's work and they may also have used / be using the work of the Watchtower / JW Org. But I don't think that either God or Christ approved of Russell or approve of the W/t / Org.
A bit like God used the Egyptians to punish His people, and God used the Romans to destroy Jerusalem in 70 C.E. but God didn't exactly approve of the Romans or Egyptians. So maybe this 'leap' you mention will not be from the W/t or Org, or maybe it will be a cleansing of them. But i think there is a need to remember that God has used punishment for disobedience in the past.
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Pudgy in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied
The difference is that my two questions have very real application, and very real consequences right NOW!
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance
repetition for emphasis. Even when giving me an upvote you still need to have a dig at me
I do believe that it is 'put across as' (in talks ect) that Russell was the one who began the religion which became the JW religion. But WE know that is not the fact of it.
It wasn't even a transition it seems. It was a rip off. Whatever may be written in the Proclaimers book or other JW writings proves nothing at all. We know how well the GB and previous leaders tell lies to cover their own tracks and the tracks of the Org.
The point being that Russell was not a JW and it seems he would not have started an Organisation like it. So it seems strange that the Org 'needs' to cling onto a Man that was 'no part of their world'.
I know this was tongue in cheek but I've actually known that to happen. JWs are warned not to give their own opinion but always to 'go by the book', and I don't mean the Bible, I mean the GB's books.
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Witness in DEFINING APOSTASY
"The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron." 1 Tim 4:1,2
"seared with a hot iron" -"to render unsensitive"
CHARLATON - "a person who pretends to have skills or knowledge that they do not have" Cambridge Dictionary
Under "Related words and phrases" - a wolf in sheep's clothing.
"I know that after I leave, savage ("burdensome, imposing, impressive") wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. 30 Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. " Acts 20:29,30
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Srecko Sostar in DEFINING APOSTASY
PENITENCE, REPENTANCE, CONTRITION, COMPUNCTION, REMORSE mean regret for sin or wrongdoing. PENITENCE implies sad and humble realization of and regret for one's misdeeds. absolution is dependent upon sincere penitence REPENTANCE adds the implication of a resolve to change. repentance accompanied by a complete change of character CONTRITION stresses the sorrowful regret that constitutes true penitence. tearful expressions of contrition COMPUNCTION implies a painful sting of conscience especially for contemplated wrongdoing. had no compunctions about taking back what is mine REMORSE suggests prolonged and insistent self-reproach and mental anguish for past wrongs and especially for those whose consequences cannot be remedied. thieves untroubled by feelings of remorse
Feeling or showing regret for something said or done is a prerequisite for reconciliation with those to whom we have erred. Are they in remorse too? Do they show penitence and contrition? etc.
It is not possible to know how any of those who contributed to the misconceptions in the JW organization felt about it. Some who have been involved in past misconceptions have been involved in change, but I don’t think most of them have, but some new people have done so when they came to positions of power.
What about the current creators of delusions? Some of them believe in their delusions because they feel they have offered something better than their predecessors. Or they have to adapt their new delusions to existing concepts with some modifications for several reasons.
Yet, no text in WTJWorg publications, known to me, contains any of the previously described characteristics of someone who is aware of his (individual or collective GB) error. It simply all comes down to a so called “human error” that can happen to anyone. But in most cases (throwing blame and responsibility) it refers to ordinary members who have "misunderstood" something or many things in publications.
The founders of doctrines and interpretations themselves have always found a way to explain their "error" by a lack of sufficient "light" and "knowledge", because then, when they wrote about a topic, there was no "God-given time" to know "real truth". But now, in this very moment when they "clarified" things, it is "true and proper knowledge" that have to be accepted, because it is from God ..... again
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Pudgy in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied
JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied
I carefully read Anna's list of JW core beliefs, and responded "Amen", although about some I have been thinking about all the extenuating circumstances that might affect the absoluteness of some of them.
For Example, in U.S. Law there are many things that are felonies, but State Supreme Courts have ruled that although these felonies are lawfully prosecuted, the individual specifics make them AS APPLIED to certain cases make the application of those laws un-Constitutional, either by State, or Federal Constitutions.
In other words, the specific circumstances of the crime determines whether or not those laws can be applied against a specific person, in a specific set of circumstances.
...... Lets suppose a family of five, where all the family members are Jehovah's Witnesses, and the mother has tired of taking care of her three young children, puts them in a car, and deliberately drives that car into a lake, and drowns them.
It's first-degree premeditated murder.
She is convicted in a court of law, and is sentenced to three life sentences with no possibility of parole.
QUESTION # 1 : Is the husband, whose three children were murdered by his wife, expected to live his life alone, and never re-marry?
QUESTION #2: If he does, say after a dozen years, remarry, will he be disfellowshipped?
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to TrueTomHarley in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance
I never thought I would do it. I gave PSomH an upvote (for setting up a question to JWI.)
True, he thinks he is tearing the cover off the ball with his expose on the rough transition from Russell to Rutherford. He does not know that Witnesses are well aware of this, that it is plainly discussed in the Proclaimers book, for example.
Still, @JW Insiderhas a feel for this time period, and it will be interesting to see what he has to say and if he deviates from the party line in even the tiniest degree, necessitating that I report him to Bethel.
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in DEFINING APOSTASY
Well then why would Jesus have known it was going to happen ? It was preplanned.
Matthew 26. Jesus Predicts Peter’s Denial
31 Then Jesus told them, “This very night you will all fall away on account of me, for it is written:
“‘I will strike the shepherd,
and the sheep of the flock will be scattered.’[c]
32 But after I have risen, I will go ahead of you into Galilee.”
33 Peter replied, “Even if all fall away on account of you, I never will.”
34 “Truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “this very night, before the rooster crows, you will disown me three times.”
All pre-planned Tom. Jesus was protecting his closest followers.
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Witness in Did everyone notice another book added to the Watchtower Library "CD" and the WOL?
Is that not what we see the GB have done over the years? Remember the list of "Beliefs Clarified"?
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Srecko Sostar in Did everyone notice another book added to the Watchtower Library "CD" and the WOL?
Yes, I agree. WTJWorg Administration has been proving that for 142 years ... with black letters on white paper.
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Witness in Did everyone notice another book added to the Watchtower Library "CD" and the WOL?
Perhaps you can share the scriptures used by your leaders that convinced the generation of 1914 that they would not “pass away” before Armageddon would come? What scriptures are being used to teach the new “overlapping generation” doctrine?
Or, those scriptures that support the replacement of the holy priesthood in the anointed, with “Gentile” elders. (Rev 11:1,2)
Can you tell me where in the scriptures, God speaks of an earthly organization built in Satan’s world to appear as the path of salvation, above and beyond the salvation in Jesus Christ? (John 14:6; Acts 4:12)
I only see God’s Temple/dwelling of Holy Spirit – “the temple of the God of Jacob” (“Israel”) and built with “living stones”, as the “mountain” that people will stream to, in the last days. (Isa 2:1-3; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22)
It is from this “mountain” where the “law of the Lord” will come forth – from “New Jerusalem”. (Rev 21:1-3) That law will not deviate from truth by teaching lies.
Where, in the scriptures does it say that the Wt. organization will be unscathed through Armageddon and stand prominently with all of its buildings in the Kingdom of God? This is what A. Morris tells us.
Can you provide scriptures which tell us, that even though “death will be destroyed” by Jesus Christ when Armageddon has reached its end, (1 Cor 15:26) , it will return a thousand years later, in the Kingdom of God – the Kingdom which God promises that “death will be no more”? (Rev 21:4)
Yes, Satan can deceive, even the "elect" - God's anointed ones. Matt 24:24,25
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Srecko Sostar in Did everyone notice another book added to the Watchtower Library "CD" and the WOL?
Thanks again. The enumeration presented shows on which elements the doctrinal settings of WTJWorg are based. It also contains a list of things you act on because of accepted doctrines, but also because of some direct actions in the past that you seek to emulate.
Certainly, we must acknowledge that some of the doctrines on the list are the product of today's JW's interpretation or understanding of the meaning of biblical passages, and this is subject to further discussion, which has already been discussed or will be discussed in the future.
If you allow me, I would say that only some of the things you mentioned are recognizable as "religious doctrine". And some other things are part of the administrative and organizational nature, which refer to some patterns of behavior and thought of people thousands of years ago. That patterns must not be wrong because they are old, but are just reflection of life conditions of people in past time.
When you or other people mentioning Jesus words from Matt 22:39 - The second, like it, is this: ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’, - I would never thought about them as "religious doctrine". Those words are many miles away from any sort of "religious doctrine". They are unimaginably more sublime and important than most "doctrines". Well, in fact of all the "doctrines", I would venture to say. .....This is evident from question: Was the law created/made for man or was man created/made for the law? In Mark 2:27 Jesus said, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.
Question; Was Sabbath "core doctrine"? or some minor rule? Sabbath was/is part of 10 Commandments. In that/such context perhaps many believers would say it is "core doctrine". Jesus showed another perspective.
According to, great caution is needed when it comes to "core doctrines". They must be in the service of man, not the other way around. Understanding the doctrines and choosing the doctrines by which we should look at ourselves and others, our own lives and the lives of other people, and derive other instructions and guidelines can easily turn into a multiplication of life-suffocating rules.
We should also see what the differences and similarities are when we use another term - “principles”. Are "principles" in the service of "doctrines"? Are they equal or are “principles” more important?
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Witness in DEFINING APOSTASY
Really Tom, I don’t care how many cheap shots you take at me. This is about the members of God’s Temple. (1 Pet 2:5,9;1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22) It is about Jesus Christ., their Head. You do know that the anointed priests/Body of Christ, belong to Christ, right? Does any man have the authority to tell them not to “challenge” their position to “represent the royal priesthood”? Does any man have the authority to tell members of Christ’s Body that they cannot meet together and study the word of God? (Matt 24:24,25; 2 Thess 2:3,4; 2 Cor 11:20) No. The letter explains why this is against God’s decrees. Ezek 44:6-9
Don’t you see, that anyone who attempts to manipulate your spirituality by preventing you to meet with whom you care to, is power hungry and scared of losing that power? You reside where a wicked slave and "her" (Rev 17:3-6) henchmen/elder body have “trampled” down God’s Temple. (Matt 24:48-51; Rev 13:1,2,5-7;11,12) You reside with the “man of lawlessness” “standing where it does not belong”. (Mark 13:5,6,14; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 13:1,2,5-7,18)
If you cared to learn about Zion, if you cared to understand how the Kingdom of God will come and what role the priesthood has in it; what the spiritual Temple will provide for mankind, you would read the scriptures. But, this is your convention time, and videos of your Harlots offering you smooth words are most likely pleasantly relaxing - I should say, mind-numbing as you share in the Harlot's cup. (Prov 5:3-6; Rev 8:10,11; 17:2) Studying God's word takes work.
I wish you would wake up.
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in DEFINING APOSTASY
And you would know about hate
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Witness in DEFINING APOSTASY
I have never heard anyone else on this forum use the word "hate" as much as you do. Did Jesus hate his people when he exposed their sins? No, the hate came from those who didn't listen to him.
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Witness in DEFINING APOSTASY
This isn't about Russia. It is about your leadership who dominate the priesthood - the GB who "direct" the elder body to "represent the royal priesthood". Before you spout off in ignorance, READ THE LETTER.
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Kick_Faceinator reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in DEFINING APOSTASY
When I read your comments Tom I can understand why it is a waste of time and effort talking to people such as you.
The scripture is right. "Do not cast your pearls before swine".
It's not so much that @Witness is right all the time, but you certainly act like a childish swine in reply.
As for women prophesying Acts 2 : 17
Berean Study Bible
‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out My Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.
But you don't seem to believe what God says do you Tom ? You seem to rely on the words of your GB