Pudgy

A simple comment “ they were the signers of the letters I posted” would have been sufficient, and informative and simple.

…. sounds like an evasion to me ….

in the above post, who is being spoken to, and what’s with these two names that I do not recall being mentioned in this thread ever before?

21 minutes ago, Errikos Tsiamis said:

…. You are absolutely right about the failure of UN representatives "Paul Hoeffel" and "Dana Loytved" to address the distinctions among NGOs. I completely agree with your observation on this matter.….

Physician … heal yourself.

…. if you need a second opinion…. you’re also ugly!

hahaHahahaha!

I am sure, Fausto, that the Thessalonians shared your opinions about everything and that the Bereans, like myself, would have hounded you to prove every statement.

Heck … i even remember Compuserve.

By the way, I fully agree with the letter you provided … it was a SNAFU of normal proportions.

I had copies of this 20 years ago.

”Stuff Happens”

The same screw-ups we make as individuals, the Society also makes.

To think otherwise is living in a fantasy world.

I am not even trying to persuade you, el Fausto, much less the public.

I know absolutely nothing about you except your blind agenda, and that you switch screen names about once every two months in a continuously failed attempt to hide your identity.

I have no proof you are a man or woman because your sentence style is that of a programmed device.

What you perceive as ad hominem attacks on you is actually me destroying tor logic, reasoning, and pseudo “facts”, and agenda driven support of the indefensible.

With your own words you destroy your own credibility. All I do is separate your Disneyland view of the Universe from what can actually be proven.

I used to be a Private Investigator and was good at it. Being able to separate fact from fiction is a valuable skill that lends itself to many areas of life … including Theology, where half only want to sit under a waterfall of free money.

My instinctual wild-ass guess is that you are are, or blindly support that philosophy.

…. as you have shown literally dozens of times by whatever screen name by choking when pressed for proof of your assertions and unable to produce anything except mountains of irrelevant and deliberately  diversionary claptrap.

I argue with you for one reason only. 

It’s fun to prove you wrong.

Look at how much work it was to get you to produce that Nov. 1, 2001 letter.

As your adversary I can attest to that it is proof good enough for most suppositions.

As always,Fausto, when you fail at proving your agenda driven revisionist historical points, you rely on trying to accuse “apostates”, attempting to divert your failure to prove your point or points with evidence … with ad hominem attacks.

As C. T. Russel correctly stated in the very first issue of the Watchtower, “If Satan himself tells you the Truth, it is still the truth…” (paraphrased).

HE ws considered to be the premiere “apostate” of his day.

So … the form you posted … where is the last page, the signature page?

And from when to when was this particular form used?

And WHEN AND WHERE DID YOU GET THAT FORM?

9 hours ago, Pudgy said:

Your attempt at diversion is transparent and pathetic Fausto.

Be a sport … coff up the letter.

Your mind is writing checks that Reality will not cash … and you can present your delusions to the bank as many times as you want, thinking you will wear the teller down, or distract with many words, but as always, you are wrong.

Whatever it is… it proved nothing, and is not even a letter. It’s a fragmentary scrap of someone’s opinion,

The only thing it actually proves is that you are deliberately self-delusional. And because it is deliberate, that makes you a fraud.

With your own hand you did prove that, as you have shown every time I challenged you for facts, and you choked.

 If that’s the letter you referenced you got NOTHING. 

It’s obvious that it is just an unreferenced statement of someone’s opinion.

ONLY !!

I don’t believe EVEN YOU read it.

…. all those words, and you did not produce the letter that YOU REFERENCED that would have proved you are not just a bloviating deceptive deluded faker.

Srecko Sostar proved his case with hard evidence.

You did not.

You know, Fausto, as I have said here many times, I have no problem if someone wants to commit suicide.

Sampson did. King Saul did. If memory serves 900 Jews at Masada did.

Certainly. Seppuku, also known as harakiri, is a traditional Japanese practice of ritual suicide by disembowelment. It was often carried out by samurai as a means to regain honor or to avoid capture and dishonor. The concept of seppuku was deeply rooted in the Bushido code, which was the samurai's way of life.

When someone, particularly a samurai, was exposed as being a fraud or a fool, they might feel an overwhelming sense of shame and disgrace. Seppuku was seen as a way to cleanse this shame and restore their honor, even in death. By performing seppuku, individuals believed they could demonstrate their sincerity and commitment to the values of loyalty, courage, and self-discipline.

The process involved a highly ritualized procedure where the individual would dress in traditional attire, prepare a small area for the act, and be assisted by a second person who would behead them upon completion. The act itself was a painful and gruesome form of self-disembowelment, symbolizing the depth of remorse and dedication to redemption.

You have been caught deliberately trying to defraud Jehovah’s People with your agenda driven claptrap.

Perhaps an apology is in order.

4 hours ago, Pudgy said:

So, Fausto, why don’t YOU supply the “first letter”, and tell us what’s on it and on the basis of THAT LETTER, why the others “lack significant meaning” ?

Ontherwise your protest has NO meaning!

Your attempt at diversion is transparent and pathetic Fausto.

Be a sport … coff up the letter.

So, Fausto, why don’t YOU supply the “first letter”, and tell us what’s on it and on the basis of THAT LETTER, why the others “lack significant meaning” ?

Ontherwise your protest has NO meaning!

Oh Yeah!

Same to you, Communicator!

Nyaaah!

Many men, just before they die, say the exact same thing …

”Hey! Warch this! …. hodl  my beer!”

Not really …. most of the time … in fact the great majority of the time it’s merely “Stuff” Happens.

….…. or as the Bible says “… chance and circumstances befall us all.”

5 hours ago, Pudgy said:

when you find hard facts “unappealing“, and downvote them, you are doomed.

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when you find hard facts “unappealing“, and downvote them, you are doomed.

…. you are insnared in a web of rationalizations and need to attack someone to elevate your own position. Your solutions are patently absurd.

…. anyone wishing to prove you wrong is a long task, but can do it simply.

Make a list of the actual facts presented that you have downvoted, and count the downvotes.

It’s a sad state when your being proved wrong so many times can be shown to be by your own hand. 

… what you perceive as insults are merely facts.

That’s why you spasm downvote instead of present arguments based on facts, and downvote simple facts.

Facts …. are not your friend.