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Your logic resembles the woman who believed her dog was in Heaven, because Jesus said “… after I leave wolves will enter in among the flock”, because dogs came from wolves.

For me, it’s an exercise in “…. Not going beyond the things that are written …”

You are overthinking this, AmidstheRoses. Did Sampson kill himself … yes or no? He did. That’s EXACTLY the definition of suicide. All else is backstory.

Tell me exactly WHAT about my statement is not true!

Did Jesus sin, DELIBERATELY walking into a trap with a 100% chance of getting killed? “Suicide-by-COP” is still suicide, even if the COPs are Roman Soldiers.

Do you …. um … have any valid references for your suppositions? I believe suicide is not a sin … because God NOWHERE says it is, and we have THREE examples.

That would apply ONLY if you could vote on Truth. You can’t. And in your case you can’t find any valid scriptures!

How is that specific scriptural search coming along Wally? Have you got around to putting 1.) and 2.) down on a piece of paper yet?

How is that Search coming along?

I can prove that riding a horse is not a sin, and a horse paralyzed and killed “Superman”, played by Christopher Reeves. If God considered it a sin to endanger one’s life on a horse, he would have said so. He did not. Simple logic. Same thing with suicide. But … it’s not up to me to prove suicide is NOT a sin … it’s up to you to prove it IS a sin, with specific, unambiguous Scripture addressing that specific point. Since none exists, and there are three Biblical examples that contradict your false supposition, your only possible solution is to confuse and misapply. Sometimes …. When you are in the “Arena of Ideas”, and all the blood in the sand is yours … it’s time to go home.

Even Sylvester Stallone as Rickey Balboa tried to get a job at a bank, so he would not get punched in the face 600 times a night.

I enjoy our little verbal combats, and have no objection to your being here. It’s not that I always win, because I don’t. But sometimes I admire your tenacity and perseverance to the bitter end, when you always lose. Example: when you cannot find any scriptures condemning suicide and flounder and choke, but keep going full speed ahead.

I have never been banned from either Twitter, or either of these forums here. Again and again and again you prove my points. why not just supply the SPECIFIC Scriptures I challenged you to cough up, before you suffocate on your own desperation?

I think Musk’s Twitter Platform has a provision that if someone is bounced, and evades the ban, they are barred PERMANENTLY. An example of that was published just last week.

No, it does not. You just PROVED my previous post.

I find it amazing someone can choke on false premises as much as you do, and not strangle themselves.

The is no record in the Bible that there is any punishment whatsoever for suicide, and many people go on “Suicide Missions” , knowing for a certainty that they are going to die, in duty to some perceived concept of the “greater good”. Often we as bystanders view this a an honorable thing of courage and a sound mind, as well as a lamentable tragedy. Jesus, of course, was the perfect example.

I very seriously doubt that Jehovah gets upset that much about our deaths, as he has the ability to in an instant restore any of us to perfect life and health with a casual thought. No loss to Him whatsoever! Whatever He cares about is in his memory, completely untarnished. All living things on Earth die, from microbe to Great Whale, without a single exception, since life began on this Earth. The supposition does not match reality.

OK …… Once again I challenge you to point out the Scriptures where God forbids a person from killing one’ own self, specifically, and to THAT specific point. Since we do have at least two specific examples, perhaps an exposition of SPECIFIC SCRIPTURES using the examples of 1.) Judge Sampson, and 2.) King Saul, both who committed Suicide …. Er …. Killed themselves. You could list them as: 1.) Judge Sampson = ___________________________ 2.) King Saul = ___________________________ Or, you could continue to try and hypnotize with many words, which more often than not, unfortunately, does work.

My understanding of Jehovah is that he is very understanding of our circumstances and hardships, an that is why He nowhere in the Bible prohibits or speaks against suicide. Those who believe otherwise are just playing with a lot of words that apply to other things, but not this.

It used to be even more common in the Truth and in the general population in the 60’s before it became universal to put up guardrails before the approaches to bridge underpasses to deflect vehicles from the concrete supports. I suspect loneliness and unrequited love kills at least as many people each year as Covid does now, especially among men and boys. I feel sad for his family, but at least he is not in anguish, anymore.

As far as I am concerned, Moise, you can stay being as obnoxious as you want. I have no authority of any kind on this forum, don’t want any, and have never suggested you be bounced.

Hmmmmm….. Perhaps he will expound on that.

That can be done in either forum. Equal opportunity. The advantage in the Open Club is whiny bullies are more easily tolerated.