Pudgy

I am sure you have the ability to also delete other people's comments. I have been tempted a few times, but then I think nah....and I retire to the closed club 😁

Anybody can accuse anybody of anything.
There is an aphorism that “A Grand Jury will refer a ham sandwich.” Here, locally, they referred 537 people in one day, and the defendant is not allowed to be there!
…. There are many people that have spent 20 or more years in prison, for first degree murder,  convicted in a court of law, and were awaiting their executions.
THEN … something happens and they are totally exonerated!
Sometimes before they are executed … sometimes after.
Anybody can accuse anybody of anything …. and at trial (more often than not) the truth will come out  during a trial, and they will be convicted or exonerated and set free.
As one judge said to a defendant …. “Just because the jury found you not guilty, if I was you I would not go around telling everybody I was innocent.”
Sometimes the innocent are severely punished, even onto death … and sometimes the guilty are set free
My lawyer advised me not to discuss my case with anyone, so I will not, but here is what I can say:
1.) I was arrested and spent three days in jail, and I instructed my wife NOT to bail me out, as I considered it just “one of those things” You folks saw my booking mug shot. I used to be a Private Investigator, and such things are an occupational hazard.
2.) Our 18 year old blind diabetic chihuahua Chippy got lost in the woods behind our house, so my wife bailed me out ($15,000 to the Bail Bondsman) and we went looking for her. We found her screaming for help in a creek, rescued her and took her to the vet ($2,100), which saved her life.
I am retired, so this is all a new experience for me ….  like riding a motorcycle at 65 mph in the rain. Very painful ($15,000), but “just one of those things.”
This coming Monday I am going to the courthouse as a citizen observer just to  see what goes on during felony trials. Free parking.
However, Wally has accused me, made up out of thin, malignant air that:
1.) I am a convict.
Not true, except for traffic citations approximately one every 22 years, my involvement with “the law” has been zero, except for various weapon permitting and fingerprinting and photos for professional licenses.
Lie and slander No. 1
2.)  I am an ex-convict. ( see No. 1 )
Lie and Slander No. 2
3.) I am on probation ( see No. 1 )
Lie and slander No. 3
4.) I am on parole  ( see No. 1 )
Lie and slander No. 4
 
 
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You really dont need to go thru all that nor write such to defend yourself…or should I say there should not be a need to.
Unfortunately anybody can come on here and slander and slander and slander…..again…and again…I dont know who runs this site…but I would imagine there has to be some legal responsibility for permitting said slander .
If the person who runs this site is a witness then they really need to get their act together……if the person who runs this site does not like witness’s..then it makes sense.

Anybody can accuse anybody of anything.
There is an aphorism that “A Grand Jury will refer a ham sandwich.” Here, locally, they referred 537 people in one day, and the defendant is not allowed to be there!
…. There are many people that have spent 20 or more years in prison, for first degree murder,  convicted in a court of law, and were awaiting their executions.
THEN … something happens and they are totally exonerated!
Sometimes before they are executed … sometimes after.
Anybody can accuse anybody of anything …. and at trial (more often than not) the truth will come out  during a trial, and they will be convicted or exonerated and set free.
As one judge said to a defendant …. “Just because the jury found you not guilty, if I was you I would not go around telling everybody I was innocent.”
Sometimes the innocent are severely punished, even onto death … and sometimes the guilty are set free
My lawyer advised me not to discuss my case with anyone, so I will not, but here is what I can say:
1.) I was arrested and spent three days in jail, and I instructed my wife NOT to bail me out, as I considered it just “one of those things” You folks saw my booking mug shot. I used to be a Private Investigator, and such things are an occupational hazard.
2.) Our 18 year old blind diabetic chihuahua Chippy got lost in the woods behind our house, so my wife bailed me out ($15,000 to the Bail Bondsman) and we went looking for her. We found her screaming for help in a creek, rescued her and took her to the vet ($2,100), which saved her life.
I am retired, so this is all a new experience for me ….  like riding a motorcycle at 65 mph in the rain. Very painful ($15,000), but “just one of those things.”
This coming Monday I am going to the courthouse as a citizen observer just to  see what goes on during felony trials. Free parking.
However, Wally has accused me, made up out of thin, malignant air that:
1.) I am a convict.
Not true, except for traffic citations approximately one every 22 years, my involvement with “the law” has been zero, except for various weapon permitting and fingerprinting and photos for professional licenses.
Lie and slander No. 1
2.)  I am an ex-convict. ( see No. 1 )
Lie and Slander No. 2
3.) I am on probation ( see No. 1 )
Lie and slander No. 3
4.) I am on parole  ( see No. 1 )
Lie and slander No. 4
 
 
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… I only finished about half my previous post before it closed out the edit function, and refused to save ….. sigh …. I will continue it later, perhaps tomorrow.
 

I’m going to get a spoof IP address and make him think I’m posting from Putin’s palace.

I know you weren't trying to be funny here, but I always found it kind of hilarious that all of your own accounts have been infamous for never admitting it when you are wrong: always blaming others instead of blaming yourself. I was surprised to find you finally admit to a typo as Dmitar, when someone pointed it out. But there were times when you would even defend an obvious simple typo and say it was on purpose for some far-fetched reason. (This is not a reference to "perils" vs. "pearls"; I think we all knew you really meant what you wrote: "perils." Pudgy, I assumed, was just highlighting your propensity for never saying anything positive about anyone here. )
In this case, I'm referring to this "gem:"
I'm always amazed at how you have never been wrong, and never, ever can admit to a mistake. How, did you put it? Oh, right:

As you might have guessed, I rarely pay attention to whether something is in the Open or Closed club. The Closed Club is definitely much more pleasant, many less distractions, but I'm sure it gives others the feeling that we have something to hide. The real reason, of course, is to stay away from persons who look for any reason they can think of to start fights, create dissension, highlight GB errors, and turn the subject to false predictions and child abuse. Come to think of it, that's a good enough reason.
There is one other consideration. I prefer to share opinions where they can be challenged from anyone, not just the dozen or so people who regularly participate in the Closed Club. There is also a better chance that someone else, who we don't know yet, is also reading the book and will come along to join in the discussion. That has happened before with discussions of God's name in the LXX, etc.
What I could do, also, is exercise my moderator powers and merely move any posts to a different topic if they are mostly unrelated. I think I'll try that. That goes for memes and pictures that are unrelated too, Pudgy. 😉 Actually, I'm always happy when I see a bunch of unrelated pictures from Pudgy, because it reminds me of how much quicker it is can be to read through a book that has lots of pictures --and they're usually funny! But I feel badly for those who start a serious topic, like Arauna just did, and it so quickly gets taken over by parody covers of children's books.
So, if I end up making a topic of comments on this book, I think I'll try just making a separate topic for the distractions. That doesn't mean people can't attack the book, or attack me for bringing it up. Those posts can remain, of course. But the little squabbles people want to bring up on the side will go to a topic made for that purpose. Assuming I can keep up. 😧

For a long time this carried the day with me as well, but in time I grew tired with the quality and predictability of the challenges. 

Let us know what you find out that you already didn't know....in the closed club if you can 😊
Oh and thanks for this expression: "not creating  negative "drama" out of guesswork". I will try and remember that phrase because people tend to do this 99% of the time and it's very annoying! Now I will just respond with: "stop creating drama out if guesswork" instead of going into long explanations... that without facts you can't really judge....and you were not a fly on the wall....etc.
 

I just paid over $39 for a book. And even though it's well over 600 pages, I don't know what the author was thinking. It's $55 in softcover and $65 in hardback. It's the kind of price you'd pay for a book of academic research.
Anyway I'd have to say that, after about 60 pages that I read this morning, it is clearly the most comprehensive, thorough, well-referenced, and seemingly accurate account I have ever read. It is very balanced, so far, and doesn't try to create negative "drama" out of guesswork. I've seen other authors, even Witnesses, do this sometimes.
Even recently, I've tried to get hold of many of the resources he uses and was unable for many of them. I do have a few pages of resources, that Persson doesn't seem to know about (or doesn't use), but they would only confirm his own research, as far as I can tell. He mentions getting some research from collectors of Bible Student history, and a person named Mike Castro in Rhode Island. I don't know if anyone knows whether Mike Castro is a Witness, but someone pointed him out to me when I was looking for a rare document (special Wt supplement not in the bound volumes because it only went to some subscribers), and he sent it to me in PDF format immediately, no questions asked. I'm afraid to find out that he might be an apostate, so I didn't ask 😮.
Anyway, the whole book title is: Rutherford's Coup: The Watchtower Succession Crisis of 1917 and Its Aftermath
https://www.amazon.com/Rutherfords-Coup-Watchtower-Succession-Aftermath/dp/1778143016/ref=sr_1_1?crid=10XAMD6TVT7N3&keywords=rud+persson&qid=1652964472&sprefix=%2Caps%2C53&sr=8-1
So far, I'm impressed. But one should be warned that the author, Rud Persson (pronounced Rude Person 😁) is a former Witness. Don't know whether he was DF'd, but he does say that he worked with Carl Olof Jonsson on research in the past.

Answering critics, some apologist said that to make up a character as complex as Jesus would be more miraculous than simply accepting there was such a man. In a perverse and opposite kind of way….

@Thinking, Eoin Joyce is the name of a person from UK (England) who contributed his comments here for several years. He indicated often that he was fed up with the lack of spiritual value in most of these discussions. (Which is all the more obvious lately.) He changed his account name from Eoin Joyce to "Gone Fishing" when he stopped commenting for a few months. Then he changed it to "Outta Here" when he got even more serious about leaving here for good. I believe that, by now, he has completely left the forum.
I can't hazard a guess as to why WalterPrescott assumed that someone from Australia was from the same neck of the woods as someone from England. But he has done this before, under several of his own previous account names, where he will make wild guesses about who is really the same as someone else. I think it is related to the fact that it's quite obvious to many of us when he tries to pass himself off as a different person, thinking perhaps that no one will notice that he is the same as AllenSmith/BillyTheKid/NoisySrecko/Dmitar and about 30 other different attempts to disguise himself under different account names.
For a while, he kept many of these identities simultaneously, and I could actually see the evidence for when he logged out from one name and logged back in with another. He tried to keep up the appearance of some intentional differences between some of those accounts, but he sometimes messed it up and used a characteristic of one account on another one.  For this new "WalterPrescott" account, he has borrowed a feature from @Cos, a Trinitarian, who often signed his posts with the fish symbol: "<><". Walter has already pointed this fish out as if it is evidence he isn't really "Allen Smith" but he probably doesn't realize that this kind of thing doesn't really work when there so many other giveaways, including a complete inability to "clothe himself with a new personality."

Who’s Elon Joyce?

If we are “little children” in the New System, on long trips at night do we get to lay down and ride on the car’s rear window deck?

Ah….it happens every time, so predictable. But I don’t hear a word of it, unless I peak and I rarely do. Love that block setting!

I’m told if your home is mobile but the 6 vehicles on your lawn are not, you just might be from Missouri.

In Missouri they gauge a man’s value by how many cars he has in his front yard, up on blocks … and what he listened to on AM radio from 12 to 3.

On long trips, when I told my Dad “… I gotta pee! I gotta pee!”, he said “Just cover your eyes and stick your butt out the window … yeah, they will see your butt, but hey won’t know WHOSE butt.”

If we are “little children” in the New System, on long trips at night do we get to lay down and ride on the car’s rear window deck?

If John the Baptist is resurrected on Earth, perhaps he will prefer to live under a rock, wear discarded clothing, and walk around eating locusts and stuff.….. and then one day he will turn a corner, and there, in the parking lot, will be an Airstream Travel Trailer!
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You're digging yourself in a deeper hole.  More like an abyss! You know what Jehovah says about those who call others idiots!

Those were the days. The 1957 DeSoto had a great big rear window deck. That's how we'd take yearly trips out West between California and Missouri. Sometimes we'd take the Northern Route through KS, CO, UT, NV and usually we'd take the Southern Route ("66") through OK, TX, NM, AZ. My brother and I would argue over who got the back window.
My father, even though he was an electrical engineer by trade, would always keep an extra 57 DeSoto on the property for parts when the main one gave problems. Once we watched while he overhauled the engine and had a big engine pulley system and couple hundred pieces of "car" placed neatly on some extra sheets. I think it was this mini junkyard, more than anything else, that made fellow Missourians accept us Californians as true neighbors. (That, and the fact that he'd fix anyone's color TV for free.)

On long trips, when I told my Dad “… I gotta pee! I gotta pee!”, he said “Just cover your eyes and stick your butt out the window … yeah, they will see your butt, but hey won’t know WHOSE butt.”

You have called people here idiots and stupid etc.  Do you think that is Christian behavior? Please explain.