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    Pudgy reacted to Arauna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I think Tom is right - and you are the one that is belying your chosen name
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    Pudgy reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Well you have a 'different' way of thinking James. Different hobbies too if I recall.
    So why you need to comment here i don't know. 
    irrational and borderline insane.  So is child porn. 
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    Pudgy reacted to xero in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    You can't do that if you aren't attached to some kind of congregation. The scriptures are absolutely clear on this. You can dispute WHICH congregation of people who consider themselves Christians you should be attached to, but you can't avoid the attachment. Not if you are a TRUE Christian. A person in regular attendance at a baptist church imagining Jesus is part of a trinity is closer to the truth than an EX-JW who imagines he can go it alone.
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    Pudgy reacted to Arauna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I would say that Satan attacks true worshippers more than those who are already on his side.  He has a kind of hate-OCD.   He just cannot leave them be.  He goes away for a while and then comes back again and again, 
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    Pudgy reacted to Arauna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    so true - as well as your other points.  I hope he takes it to heart.  
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    Pudgy reacted to TrueTomHarley in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    No. They upvoted because you are a dodo. You can’t even get the reason for your unpopularity straight.
    It looks from this .like they bent over backwards to make things easier for you. The endless bellyaching you do about being shunned—they would have spared you that. But no—you made it clear you no longer wished to be one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. So later an announcement is read at the Hall: “Patiently Sitting on his Hands is no longer one of Jehovah’s Witnesses” and the brothers treat you accordingly. You brought it all on yourself, not necessarily by lapping up ill reports, but by your hastiness to assign wicked motives to your brothers.
    You could have avoided your shunning, with no stain on yourself. Were you convinced some great injustice was being done, you could have waited on Jehovah to rectify things. He’s God, you know. He can fix things. Possibly had you found something better…well, then I can see a departure.  But no. In your quest to prove yourself more righteous than anyone else you put yourself in a place where you can no longer remember how the death of Christ benefits humanity, nor how God’s name is universally pronounced in the Western world. You willingly put yourself in a place where you don’t expect to survive, separating yourself from your former brothers who do expect to survive based upon their faith in Christ’s sacrifice. No wonder they want nothing to do with you.
     
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    Pudgy reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Pudgy and Thinking  2 Yes well, what should we think of this then.
    Pudgy, who we know is James, and who we know has certain problems of his own, gives Arauna an upvote for making accusations against me.
    Thinking also gives an upvote to those accusations. 
    Both of those people pretend to be Christians. All three of them would quote scripture about not slandering anyone, not making false accusations against anyone.
    Pudgy even told me off for using a common expression toward Mr Rando. 
    double standards me thinks  
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    Pudgy reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    Matthew 28:18 in 33 C. E. 
    Berean Study Bible
    Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me.
    Now who is right Yeshua = Jesus or the GB of JW Org ? 
     
     
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    Pudgy reacted to xero in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Like Tom pointed out earlier w/regard to the actual congregations of the 1st century - the congregations weren't free from strife. Why would anyone imagine it would be so today? To believe that you must not be reading your bible with any depth of understanding. In fact it seems sometimes that there's more there to give us all something to deal with - we get some great learning experiences.
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    Pudgy reacted to Thinking in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    such dreadful things have happened…it is devastating  that some men in positions of power or authority can wield  a ignorant understanding of Christs Law over a cong…it does happen…I don’t understand at times why some cannot see that it happens…perhaps because they cannot imagine that Jehovah would allow such things amongst his people…yet that in itself means they do not understand how Jehovah works..what he allows..and why….and it has ALWAYS happened amongst his people…because we are not yet under his full blessings and care.
    But there is good too..kindness and acts of brotherly love that I cannot find elsewhere,,,and I want to remind you…that it was loving brothers that corrected my dreadful situation…yes it was too late….but they did act…and were as devastated over the situation nearly as I…..they were the kind and good brothers in places of authority…they out number the bad…and even the bad after discipline may very well be forgiven…and as I write this I know if I picked up my phone to my loving kind elders..(of whom I don’t always agree with) and ask for help…I know they will be there for me.
       Being used as a people does not mean he finds us all acceptable….or as once taught that the organization as perfect….far from it….but what you are doing is not acceptable either ….you dont have it all correct either…and you have as much sin to carry around as I do…or any other brother and sister…and to who ever you associate with…they also cannot do what Jehovah has a achieved with this imperfect people assembled before him…and it’s even going to take Jesus a thousand years to get it all right…not because of his lack of power…but because how degraded we as humans have become.
    Even his people at this time have become more degraded than fifty years ago….I wish I had the understanding  I have now …twenty years ago….not in chronology or in getting an exact understanding of every little bit of law…and scripture….but in Jehovah himself and why and how he teaches his peoples…in what he’s really like..and why he does certain things and why he allows certain things…
    At times I wish I had my time in the truth all over again…but I was a babe..and I had to grow and mature..and yet I’m still a babe In Jehovahs eyes…and even those that direct us go thru the same experience… they don’t do everything right either…just like Moses never got it right…just as we get a bit of wisdom we are ready for the grave …as we die like gnats at this time of the end.
    My and my families experience has forced me thru the fire of refinement…and a long hard look at what Jehovah has forgiven me for….certainly makes me stand before him as if naked and ashamed…..try to remember that you don’t serve a organization…you don’t serve the GB…but you serve Jehovah and his Son….you must hold on to that…and endure…ENDURE ENDURE ENDURE And  be kind to other brothers and sister trying to stay afloat and never ever endanger their faith that may be getting tested…never ever be the one to extinguish  a flickering flame of faith….because Jehovahs watching one’s like you and me..and he will treat us as we have treated others…and as far as ones like Space Merchant making it….I think you will find Jehovah has that all in hand as well….in fact we need to be thankful that Jehovah even gave one’s like you and me a sideways glance…
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Thinking in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I thought I felt a chill in the air, as if thousands of voices were crying out loud, and suddenly stilled.
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    Pudgy reacted to Arauna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    No, that is not what you did and you know it. You went far beyond talking to the brother u had a beef with.....  ... so . Do not act all righteous. You are a stinker and you know it!
    You are a stinker! Twist my words for a nasty purpose!   I stand up to anyone who does not treat others well. That is why I see through your MO. 
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    Pudgy reacted to Arauna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Of course I link "jehovah" to the org. We carry his name don't we?  You are the one who is mentally in a box...... the hate-OCD box.... 
    You are just throwing anything at me. So do not expect any answer -   try to control the OCD. 
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    Pudgy got a reaction from JW Insider in I have a question about your memorial.   
    1. Mass
    2. Black Mass
    You have presented no evidence to stand on…. roughly the equivalent of stating that the horse Mr. Ed lives on Mars. Two more False assumptions…. Unless you can provide HARD actual real EVIDENCE.
    3. Yes, they do pass the Emblems. Christ’s sacrifice extends to all people of faith, no matter how they fail. That is the whole point.
    I attended disfellowshipped for four years, and passed the Emblems, just like anyone else. 
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    Pudgy reacted to xero in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    It's a reflex. Like <begin analogous shibboleth>Pudgy's dog.</end analogous shibboleth>
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    Pudgy got a reaction from xero in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    You know you did not “get it”, when you wake up handcuffed, on a boat, surrounded by people you don’t know, with your feet in a bucket of concrete.
     
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    You know you did not “get it”, when you wake up handcuffed, on a boat, surrounded by people you don’t know, with your feet in a bucket of concrete.
     
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    In private interpretation of Prophesy, a vague, general idea that is correct is always better than specifics, which so far, have ALWAYS been wrong.
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    Pudgy reacted to Srecko Sostar in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Sometimes we (people) understand the same things differently. And sometimes we (individually or collectively) come to different conclusion about own previous statement/view.
    In WTJWorg theology, this happens periodically. "Generation doctrine" is one of such things.
    "Get it", it’s not something only I need to worry about  
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I was out in Service with a Brother years ago and we had both gotten drinks at McDonald’s, and as we stood there in the parking lot, he asked me how had I learned to tolerate various brothers?
    I explained to him it was all about trust, and the “trust fall”, and offered to show him an example.
    I had him turn around and told him to fall backwards, trusting me to catch him, even though he could not see me, which he hesitatingly did.
    As he fell backwards I moved aside and he crashed to the pavement, spilling his coke all over his clothes, and screaming out “WHY THE !!*#%!! HELL DIDN’T YOU CATCH ME!?”
    I calmly explained that it would not have been a real “trust test” if it worked every time.
    He screamed “WHAT THE HELL KIND OF !!*#%!! LESSON IS THAT!?”
    I calmly reminded him, while sipping my root beer, his original question was “…. How had I learned to tolerate various brothers?”
     
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    Pudgy reacted to BroRando in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    We preached for over 100 years that a New World is coming.  Ready or not, here it comes!
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    Pudgy reacted to Arauna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    You just don't get it do you?
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    Pudgy reacted to TrueTomHarley in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I like this.
    I like this too. It is just Human Relations 101. There are some cultures in which ‘saving face’ is so important that if you don’t do it you might as well flush your words down the toilet. But even when not in one of those cultures, it is good advice to heed.
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    Pudgy reacted to TrueTomHarley in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Oh for crying out loud, Dimitar! Why would you downvote that one?
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    Pudgy reacted to Arauna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Yes - I am happy you survived it all!  A good example to us all.  (Pity that some accusers on this forum had a problem with the org... but could not survive the problem).  Consequently, they lost their chance to serve Jehovah forever! 
    I do think women must man-up.  At work there are rules about discrimination but even then , it is hard to stand up against it in the world (human resources departments.) It seems it can also be hard when there is some sort of discrimination against a fellow believer. In this case we must not let it pass because Jehovah's organization must be better than the world. When brothers act like a clique, then the congregation can suffer... and unfortunately it takes the GB a while to discover this.  That is why we should act according to conscience - when we see something wrong. No-one is above the council of Jehovah. 
    Last year we had an elder twice snub a sister while she was answering (she did not speak English very well and the brother wanted her to finish her long, insecure answer). I sent my group overseer a phone message:  Why has the elders not appointed someone to help her to prepare a shorter answer so she does not get snubbed in this ghastly way?  ... something to that effect.   There was an apology and she was helped.   I do not like my brothers or sisters treated openly in a disrespectful way.  In a nice way I will say something. 
    I asked the same elder, by phone,  why some elders preach the vaccine more than the kingdom. I had a shepherd call from the CO.... I think it was to sass me out but I retained a good attitude - But if one stands for righteousness, truth and kindness - it must be there at all times.  I will NEVER put a question like this in public where a brother can lose face but I will ask questions in private. 
    I really feel one must be open and kind - speak the truth at all times - and be who you are. Do not tolerate disrespect to the weak and weary. There are many vulnerable people amongst Jehovah's people. I have learnt to handle disrespect regarding myself quite well and answer with kind openness (I had to learn it).  I do not care to lose face... it is not important.  Believe me women often encounter this - no matter how high the position (in the world and org) but I do not take it to heart too much. BUT always ask questions if things are wrong - with respect. As a woman I must still be submissive so as not to be branded a Jezebel. I am very aware of being respectful and submissive. 
    So far I have survived - and my faith has had its bad times and the good.  I just hope Jehovah gives me courage to act according to my conscience - whether in front of brothers or the worldly courts.
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