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    Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in ​​​​​​​“ …. Eye has not seen, and ear has not heard, what God has in store for those that love him …. “   
    “ …. Eye has not seen, and ear has not heard, what God has in store for those that love him …. “

    I hardly ever quote Scripture, and almost never debate scripture, because I believe there is so very much we do not know about any subject you could mention … and subscribe to Jehovah’s Witnesses core beliefs only because they make good common sense, which really is unique.….
    But then we get into speculation about what happened to Enoch, and accounts musing about being caught away to 2nd or 3rd Heaven, etc., and things about which there is a staggering ambiguity.
    With all my heart I believe there really is a “Rainbow Bridge”, without any Scriptural support whatsoever, or basis except the yearning of my heart.….. just the hope that the ones I have loved the most in my life, they have not perished from the Earth.
    And perhaps, just maybe, Jehovah will someday let us meet at the Rainbow Bridge.



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    Pudgy got a reaction from Space Merchant in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I wish I could triple upvote Arauna’s last comment!
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    Pudgy reacted to Arauna in ​​​​​​​“ …. Eye has not seen, and ear has not heard, what God has in store for those that love him …. “   
    How would you describe a "dimension"  if the word does not yet exist?  We all know that even on earth the angels move in a dimension we cannot physically detect.  Beyond the physical universe there are more dimensions. In our physical universe we are bound by dimensions of  time and space.  Beyond this.... there is no time and space.... 
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Space Merchant in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Fatter heads are not necessarily smarter.
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    Pudgy got a reaction from ComfortMyPeople in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I wish I could triple upvote Arauna’s last comment!
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Fatter heads are not necessarily smarter.
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    Pudgy reacted to Arauna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Very true, unfortunately child services have also become predatory.... because the privatized institutions get funded by the government and are profit driven. (This is another very dark scenario). Calling Police (to the average person) is a frightning prospect because a bad policeman can be the beginning of a frightening nightmare. The FBI is tenfold worse.  Citizens do not know how to hold them legally to order if they break the law themselves. Race may also be an issue. A lot of what goes on is just raw display and use if power. 
    We have human laws but they are not enforced in a loving way..... and are not fair to all.  Most JWs also do not know how to act when an elder has overstepped the mark. Bottom line: injustice can happen anywhere and all humans are vulnerable to mild or hardened predators and all degrees of injustice.  One is just fortunate if something really bad has not happened to you. 
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    When you stop doing that, common sense becomes the egotistical ravings of jerks.….. of which there is NO shortage.
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    Pudgy reacted to Thinking in ​​​​​​​“ …. Eye has not seen, and ear has not heard, what God has in store for those that love him …. “   
    Take heart pudgy that our precious ones are not dead to Jehovah or Jesus….but alive….and I hope you meet yours under a rainbow 🌈 and that rainbows may still be In Existence In Jehovah’s judgement day….( I think ) 
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    Pudgy reacted to Srecko Sostar in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Please define what the phrase "reading the Bible" means to you in the context of the name Srećko? In what way do I claim, “I read the Bible”?
    I don’t read the Bible every day, or occasionally. When I refer to a biblical passage or report I do so from memory or go to a book or google to see where it is and what it says.
    So your claim, that I claim to be reading the Bible, is not provable, it is just your opinion.  
     
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    Pudgy reacted to Srecko Sostar in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to determine if they are from God,... - 1 John 4:1
    God is spirit, demons are spirits, WTJWorg are spirit guided organization, Bible is inspired by spirit, human also have spirit. All of this numbered are connected to "spirit".
    What is wrong to put all sorts of this spirits to challenge, to test? 
     
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    Pudgy reacted to Arauna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I add: There is a brazenness in women who want some form of control.  Of course elders can also overreact and see any form of " confidence" as a threat to their "authority".  The fact is that all of us are imperfect and can misinterpret what we perceive and subsequently "defend" our turf.......... actions which are totally unchristian and egotistic.
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Thinking in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Religious topics should have a short opening, short ending, and have the two as close together as possible.
    otherwise you get a minimum of 18 to 20 paragraphs of mindnumbing words, words, words, that you have heard 1 million times.
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Thinking in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Witness believes that for which she cannot give a SINGLE EXAMPLE.
    When specifically challenged to do so, she choked n’ folded, using MANY words to say NOTHING.
    Not
    One
    Single
    Example.
     


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    Pudgy got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Good Points 
    The Bible says that any congregational discipline has to be done before the entire congregation.
    Jehovah’s Witnesses do not do that.
    End of thought.
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Witness in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Good Points 
    The Bible says that any congregational discipline has to be done before the entire congregation.
    Jehovah’s Witnesses do not do that.
    End of thought.
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    Pudgy reacted to Srecko Sostar in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I don’t understand why you oppose the idea of women (JW women) participating in the survey and judicial process?
    WTJWorg tries to retain the right of men to be spiritual leaders and to govern the Words of the Bible based on some biblical passages.
    But on the basis of which biblical passages can women be forbidden to participate in investigative / forensic and judicial proceedings when it comes to CRIME? Or is it about SPIRITUAL CRIME when it comes to CSA and other abuses? Absurdity.
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    Pudgy reacted to JW Insider in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Perhaps I mentioned it somewhere already, but Reslite did get back to me with a response. And he also responded to a question I asked him on his blog. He is both careful and accurate, and therefore an excellent resource on Russell. He did not have the particular information I questioned him about, however, and he recommended another resource.
    For most concerns about Russell, Reslite's default position is to defend him fully, and this is almost always the right direction to go. Most JW opposers (and Bible Student opposers) go for the more ludicrous attacks on Russell anyway, and therefore it's a safe bet on most issues to follow the information in the Proclaimers book and Reslite's information, too, where he can offer additional material.
    But there are a couple of concerns about Russell that rarely get brought up, and one of these is the fact that Brother Rutherford claimed that Russell alone (individually - in his person) had been the "faithful and discreet slave" and Rutherford gave a funeral speech for Russell repeating this belief. This was in accord with Russell's own Watch Tower teaching about the "faithful and wise servant" for nearly the previous two decades. Rutherford also  published material about him clarifying that Russell himself accepted the title and would have claimed it publicly but that Russell's humility only allowed him to claim it privately.
    This is not a big deal to me, but it is a minor concern, because the most current claim in our publications about this is that Russell "never claimed to be such" and therefore the idea is effectively blamed on others, with the idea that Russell only accepted this teaching about himself because of the undue influence of others around him. (See, Proclaimers.)
    The actual history of the idea creates another minor concern about the current teaching: If Rutherford was one of those appointed by Jesus Christ in 1919  to be one of the select few members of the "faithful and discreet slave," then why was it that since December 1919 and all through at least 1927, Rutherford didn't accept this appointment from Jesus, but still insisted that ONLY Russell himself had been that faithful and discreet slave?
    I have a feeling that the reason Dmitar referenced me with respect to this particular topic is because he recognizes the problems of these minor issues but he believes they are major, and therefore must somehow try to defend against them by making it appear they are just hearsay, not claims found in the WT publications themselves.  
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    ….. is there ANYONE … that if you asked them, would describe themselves as a “fake Christian”?

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    Pudgy got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Ya ever notice that ALL of today’s “faith healers” heal stuff that is invisible to start with?
    …… let me know when someone heals a thalidomide baby with no arms or hands, with fingers growing out of her shoulder
    THEN you will have my attention!
     
    Until then, EVERYBODY is just playing with words, like a retarded kid in a pool full of Scrabble chips.
     
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    Pudgy reacted to Space Merchant in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    She is a misguided Christian who is shown to lean towards Mainstream ideas without realizing it.
    For this I can say everyone is correct concerning Pentecost 33AD, even the likes of @Patiently waiting for Truth granted these gifts essentially began by means of the spirit however, they somehow believe that after Apostle John that these miraculous gifts continued afterwards, like prophesying to predict or have visions.
    I asked myself, many times, yet none of them can produce.
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    Pudgy reacted to Space Merchant in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    It is clear you do not understand the context of Paul's Words, granted of what was quoted to you before. Prophesying in regards to predict by means of visons had ceased. Along with tongues, the knowledge noted in the passage. This knowledge is by means of the holy spirit of which majority of Christian had in the 1st century, even around during and after Pentecost 33AD. It is in association with miraculous gifts, granted these gifts have ceased because they played a particular role in redemptive history in accrediting the ministry, during that time, it never continued afterwards. Sprit Led ones are capable of prophesying, but primarily of the gospel message, coming of the Messianic Age, etc. not of visions and or similar.
    I don't mislead, so please spare yourself of accusations.
    That being said, there is a reason as to why the 1st century is noted as the Apostolic Age (33AD - 100AD)
    And? Paul and John were still alive during that time, the purpose the Apostle and those with such gifts were active until the the near of the 1st century. More so, they had partial knowledge. You are not understanding nothing of what Paul is saying.
    Prophesying in terms of predict by means of visions and or similar miraculous gifts - Yes.
    Hence the difference
    An inspired prophet possesses the miraculous gift of prophesy, inspired and infallible utterance and predictions, as proof they are having the Holy Spirit. A normal, Spirit led Prophet who is clearly not inspired and not infallible have the gifts of the spirit regarding prophesying. It served it's purpose when the the Christian was starting up, and ended around the near end of the 1st century, around that same timeframe, Apostle John, the last Apostle, had passed.
    He literally says it in the verse you quoted.
    Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away.
    40AD-60AD was still the 1st century, so the miraculous gifts persisted still, but evidently, it came to an end. For in that time, not only the people were convinced by the words of the Apostles, but the gifts of what the spirit gave, to push people in the direction of the Christ.
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    Pudgy reacted to Space Merchant in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    It isn't that hard. But the main thing is the idea is to assume all Unitarians are the same. @Patiently waiting for Truth and @Srecko Sostar made that mistake before, even @Cos who is known to alter history to benefit the Trinitarian belief.
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    Pudgy reacted to Arauna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    The bible shows that we must hope if they are not following Jehovah's standards but I do not trust them just because they are human.  When I was a widow I learnt the true nature pf people - the hard way.  I was an innocent and believed all people to be different levels of good.  I have learnt the hard way.  
    Humans have perfection to the degree that they can perfectly accomplish the purpose and morals as instructed by Jehovah.  Without Him they are following their own ideas and can become fallible.  Only Jehovah has absolute perfection which is infallible. 
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    Pudgy reacted to Srecko Sostar in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    One should always appreciate and believe in the honesty and integrity of other people. It is commendable that JW have faith that GB wants to be fair and honest. Other people outside the JW community need to be able to understand that JW members want to trust their leaders and consider them honest. It is a good quality in any interpersonal relationship that enables success.
    I think the problem is in withdrawing the thesis that equates (human) perfection with infallibility. It's not quite the same.
    The best examples of this are Adam and Eve. Perfect people, but that didn't save them from making a fatal mistake. 
    Invoking imperfection, over and over again when something is said and done wrong, becomes meaningless because the state of "imperfection" becomes a tool to justify and excuse one's own inability to do something with the least bad consequences.
    GB uses such a tool to justify his own misguided guidelines that they worked for in the name of God. Therein lies their guilt.
    If they had said clearly and loudly that they have an opinion and belief about a doctrine that is such because it seems to them most accurate, then they could rightly invoke imperfection, so they were mistaken. But when they claim that doctrines are the only and unique truth because they come from God, then all subsequent wisdom, they later show, makes no sense.
     
     
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