Pudgy

You know that you mention it, America is suspect in a lot of things, even when it comes to killing their own to hide information.

.YEAH!
IF FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN ECONOMY OF ATTENTION PICK AN  EASIER TARGET !
 

:)))) you are really funny. 
I can claim how i saw NLO fall, and you would believe this? .....
...... but if i made claim it came from Pluto but how origin of NLO is Klingon's, that would make you suspicious?

I rest my case. What’s it to you what my faith is? With all the truly vile characters out there today, why target the religion whose members under no circumstances will take life? Why not go after one, you could almost pick at random, in which if you put members in just the right circumstances, they will take life? The energy your pour into your crazy mission is bizarre.
to the same extent that a student puts his teacher on a pedestal, an athlete puts his coach on a pedestal, a soldier puts his general on a pedestal, a tourist puts his guide on a pedestal, a businessman puts his advisor on a pedestal. Such relationships are routine in life and are only depicted as “putting oneself under tyranny” when it is the religion you don’t like.
This statement only reflects your jealousy that the Witness organization does not recognize your self-proclaimed ‘anointed’ status and does not afford you the platform you assume is your due. You are a crazy woman—I don’t back up on that for a second. Even Patiently Waiting for the Truth, who is sure a “True Anointed” will come along to save the day, knows enough that it is not you.
I am livid that in your quest to undermine the Witness organization, you knowingly display a dishonest site stealing logo and artwork of someone much better, and you expose admin to risk in doing it. I accept that the risk to admin was done unknowingly. Still, I am grateful for the writing platform he has granted me. I get it that it’s not altruism nor is he especially religious. I get it that he takes advantage of the enormous traffic the JW stuff generates to boost his website’s stature and branch into other fields. I get it that he makes a modest sum off advertising. Doesn’t matter. These things have all worked to my advantage—it’s a symbiotic relationship we have, and so I am furious when someone is so reckless in their quest to destroy what’s noble as to potentially make him trouble.
Same as what Space Merchant points out about atheism. As your rage inadvertently puts Admin in a bad way, so it also puts God in a bad way. Plenty of taunts toward God and Christ in what SM points to. Doesn’t bother you a bit to embrace atheists sneering at God if it furthers your anti-Witness quest.

Dmitar:
You are the Global Poster Boy for “Physician, heal thyself”.
 

Thanks for your effort to answer.
However, when you say that words are irrelevant then I disagree with you. Words are a product of the spirit (spirituality) in man. In birds, the product of the spirit is - chirping.
 
Our friend SM has recently been using a counter-argument called - appeal to motive. What you have quoted goes in the direction that the JW believer feels guilty, that he is not doing enough, that more needs to be given, etc.
I wonder how many JWs are selling their homes today, quitting their jobs and going on missionaries? Where are the reports on that? That should be more than in the 1970s, because today Gog's attack is closer than ever. Instead, you go to houses and villages with the help of google maps or google earth, for 2 years now. But well, the covid is giving up so it will be different for your work.

I have often commented that we have no idea about many things in the garden of Eden, because nobody has Polaroids.
It could be worse, the Bigfoot family came back from their vacation and every single one of their pictures was fuzzy.

Do you know why Watchtower Lawyers and people that are close to them do not fear being eaten by sharks when they swim in the ocean?
……….. Professional Courtesy.

Yes these words encourage the belief of 75….it should have been stepped on instead….this selling of business happened in our area..some openly preached 75 was the end….probably much like the apostles on there first mission who thought Jesus time had come to rule as king….he didn’t stop them with that false understanding either..

As far as illumination goes, I suspect Dmitar would cast a dark shadow, even if he was on fire!
He is, however, a literal Master at adding insult to injury!

Notice this:
... planning to finish out the rest of their days in this old system in the pioneer service.
Well yes, they point to 1975 as critical and final date. .............. Rest of their days :)))) not months, not years, not decades, but DAYS.
Do we live today in the "rest of days of the overlapping generation"? SM, Dmitar please some illumination from you?

I have often commented that we have no idea about many things in the garden of Eden, because nobody has Polaroids.
It could be worse, the Bigfoot family came back from their vacation and every single one of their pictures was fuzzy.

I FOUND A SCAN OF THE 1974 KINGDOM MINISTRY MENTIONED ABOVE !
Here it is !
 

Very true ….. righteous intent covers a multitude of sins. 

I FOUND A SCAN OF THE 1974 KINGDOM MINISTRY MENTIONED ABOVE !
Here it is !
 

All of it, Dimitar. It’s all gone. Every verse of it I’ve separated. Not a syllable is left.
There. Happy?
Now please, shine your weird paranoid malignant presence that you would have us believe is Christianity whereas anyone can plainly see that you display by far the least Christlike personality of anyone here—please shine it on someone else.

I FOUND A SCAN OF THE 1974 KINGDOM MINISTRY MENTIONED ABOVE !
Here it is !
 

You obviously did not read what I wrote with any sort of understanding at all, or the link that you yourself provided. The link that you provided exactly confirms the dates and details of what I said that you disparaged with manipulative distraction with irrelevancies.
It was 1980 under the old logo, then I sent my certified letter, return receipt requested to Procter & Gamble headquarters in Cincinnati Ohio.
Again you have clouded the issue with complete irrelevancies and made another accusation about me that is false.
My long-winded commentary was relating exactly what happened, in detail. Your reply related how they changed their brand symbol in the 1980s from the old one to the new one, and nothing more was stated in the reference you gave…
The topic we were talking about has absolutely nothing to do with what you understood as a child about the 13 colonies of the United States, or brand changes.
 

A Politician’s reply ….. sorta like a Dmitar post.
Manipulative and changing the subject many times with MANY WORDS, to wear you down with irrelevancy.

… and as to the 1975 issue, photographs of a kingdom ministry I believe from 1974 have been posted here many times, although I do not have a copy on my iPhone, when the Society was commending the brothers who had sold their homes, assets, and businesses to preach the Kingdom message this time of the end.
Perhaps somebody here will post it again.
This makes it completely clear to my mind That the WTB&TS was in fact preaching that the end would occur In the mid-1970s.
JWI was there, and I was there, and saw it happen.
AND WITH THAT KINGDOM MINISTRY STATEMENT is the written confirmation.
And ( coff, coff ) I wonder where a lot of that money went?
 

I first became aware of the Procter & Gamble satanic allegiance controversy in 1980, and if memory serves about that same time there was a skit on SNL about that but I don’t quite remember that I just remember the impression of it.
The congregation I attended in Portland Oregon knew about this controversy and told me about it as a fact. The fact that Procter & Gamble and its symbol was of satanic origin.
I also heard about this at work several different times.
I put it on my metal shelf of things that could be true, or could be false, but since I had no directed interest in such things and it didn’t affect my life I pretty much ignored it as much as I could. For me it came under the category of “Interesting if true, interesting if not true, why should I give a damn either way.”
Except for the people at work, I never talked to anybody that wasn’t a Jehovah’s Witness. This is pretty much been through my entire life as I do really don’t have any interest in talking to people at all, as I’m occupied with internal thoughts that keep me quite busy.
People would mention this to me, and occasionally I asked the question out of the blue to people, casually interested in the truth. I did notice that nobody had any proof of any sort and it was complete hearsay.
So what I did was this, I wrote a letter to Procter & Gamble asking them about the assertions of their satanic involvement, and this was of general conversation in the area at that time which was 1980, but I was distracted because Mount Saint Helens in Washington state just exploded, and Portland Oregon was covered in about 2 1/2 inches of volcanic ash.
Realizing from experience that’s the easiest way somebody can ignore you is to say they didn’t ever get the message, I sent it by certified mail, return receipt requested (the green card you may be familiar with), and pretty much forgot about the whole thing, in the same way I might ignore some nutty group in Australia, when I’m busy trying to work a heavy overtime schedule.
…. but one day I got a reply from Procter & Gamble and when I opened it up I was expecting to see a simple affirmation or simple denial perhaps with some documentation to prove it either way.
What I got was a history of the symbol of how it happened that boxes of their soap and it was Ivory soap at time would be shipped by boat up and down the rivers, etc. and as they were unloaded on the docks they started putting in chalk stars, moons or other things to separate their shipments from other shipments that were on the same boat.
As an aside it’s a same sort of thing is done as identifiers on Russian manufactured tanks to tell where they’re coming from or where they’re going to etc.
The correspondence included the History of how the symbol developed with some inserts perhaps five or six explaining this that or the other thing which might be considered somewhat related to my original question which was extremely simple but they never answered the question directly.
 Because of the “million words“ they used, most people, even the great majority of people, would assume they did answer the question but they probably couldn’t tell you what the answer was, but the impression was that Procter & Gamble was not involved in any satanic activity.
I try to never ever assume a persons motive, or their intentions or their knowledge or lack of knowledge unless they have a gun pointed at me and cackling like Vice President Kamila Harris For no apparent reason.
After studying the materials at Procter & Gamble sent me, It became quite clear that they were deliberately being ambiguous so as not to say anything at all while leaving the impression that they were not involved in the satanic activity.
My guess was that since their headquarters was in Cincinnati Ohio right on the river between Ohio and Kentucky, they have people of all religions creeds and ideas, and somewhere in their organization there might be a group of employees that are part of the satanic cult, but not part of their business.
Just a guess.
No more.
The fact is, and all I can say about it is this is when in the middle of a national and international controversy about this exact issue,  when directly asked a direct and unambiguous question, they waffled and never denied satanic influence association or involvement.
And it was quite clear to me they deliberately did this.
It’s like when a politician is asked a simple yes or no question, and the reply is so long, rambling, and manipulative that you don’t even want to ask a follow-up question because you don’t wanna have to go through that again.

A Politician’s reply ….. sorta like a Dmitar post.
Manipulative and changing the subject many times with MANY WORDS, to wear you down with irrelevancy.

… and as to the 1975 issue, photographs of a kingdom ministry I believe from 1974 have been posted here many times, although I do not have a copy on my iPhone, when the Society was commending the brothers who had sold their homes, assets, and businesses to preach the Kingdom message this time of the end.
Perhaps somebody here will post it again.
This makes it completely clear to my mind That the WTB&TS was in fact preaching that the end would occur In the mid-1970s.
JWI was there, and I was there, and saw it happen.
AND WITH THAT KINGDOM MINISTRY STATEMENT is the written confirmation.
And ( coff, coff ) I wonder where a lot of that money went?
 

A Politician’s reply ….. sorta like a Dmitar post.
Manipulative and changing the subject many times with MANY WORDS, to wear you down with irrelevancy.

… and as to the 1975 issue, photographs of a kingdom ministry I believe from 1974 have been posted here many times, although I do not have a copy on my iPhone, when the Society was commending the brothers who had sold their homes, assets, and businesses to preach the Kingdom message this time of the end.
Perhaps somebody here will post it again.
This makes it completely clear to my mind That the WTB&TS was in fact preaching that the end would occur In the mid-1970s.
JWI was there, and I was there, and saw it happen.
AND WITH THAT KINGDOM MINISTRY STATEMENT is the written confirmation.
And ( coff, coff ) I wonder where a lot of that money went?