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    Pudgy reacted to xero in How present and communicative was Jehovah during the time prior to the flood?   
    @AraunaA simple google search would report evidence that although fertile hybrids are unusual, they are not unheard of.
    https://www.quora.com/What-kinds-of-animal-hybrids-are-fertile
    Again, it's speculation. As to the spilling over of DNA into later generations, we know that this can be lost over time.
    We share a fraction of 1 percent of our DNA with an ancestor seven generations ago. A trait COULD be eliminated from a population. If the caananites, especially the Rephaim, Zuzim, Emim, and Anakim were somehow tainted w/this DNA it could also explain the giantism and the need to annihilate these by the Israelites. (If the hybrid dna somehow ended up in one of Noah's sons wives)
    Again, this is speculation.
    This is all we're talking about here. No one has knowledge on these matters with a capital "K".
    We might also speculate that the descendants of the flood survivors ASSUMED some either survived through other means, were carrying the genes (though these lacked the language/scientific understanding to know about genes (unless they actually did and the knowledge had to be rediscovered)) of the nephilim OR that somehow new hybrid's were birthed by some unwholesome means post flood.
    We read in many cases people assuming and acting on beliefs which they acquired through speculation which were not well founded. Take burial practices. I mentioned this once before how the bible is silent as to prescriptions for any theocratic burial process, and yet these had their own practices. Jehovah never outlined how the dead were to be buried.
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    Pudgy reacted to Arauna in How present and communicative was Jehovah during the time prior to the flood?   
    I know what you are talking about this is the Liger - between lion and tiger ..... but fertility is rare and they are of the same KIND - both are large cats.  So even in the same kind they sometimes do not mix.  Jehovah put barriers in place.  It is rare that different species blend such as a bird and reptile  -  you will find that different bears can mix and different dogs can mix such as wolf and dog.... but different kinds are infertile...... 
    I know that evolutionists love to show this is possible because they do not accept that there are barriers to infinite change in genes....... but Jehovah put these laws of nature in place.
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    Pudgy reacted to xero in How present and communicative was Jehovah during the time prior to the flood?   
    All true, but what I've been getting at in all my posts is that we often don't recognize the presumptions and speculations WE ourselves make and how solid these are or are not in some cases. It's when there is ambiguity that there ought to be latitude of point of view difference. I know some who have no issue w/full vegetarianism and I'm in the same grouping and yet others say (as did one brother) when I remarked "But we'll be at peace w/all creation." he said "We're already at peace with the cattle already." His remark stopped me and I had to ask myself "Do I really KNOW what it will be like in the future under the kingdom rule?" I had to be honest and say that I didn't.  So it made no sense to argue about it.
    Admission of areas of ones' own areas of ambiguity is not a weakness and choosing to die on these molehills isn't particularly useful long term. It could easily lead one to become soured when things change or when one feels that one thing was advertised, but another thing instead is taking place. We have to ask ourselves "Were those advertising infallible prophets of Jehovah, or just men doing the best the could w/what little information these had at the time"
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in How were JW elders who were really Communist Spies appointed by "Holy Spirit"?   
    Isabella:
    Do you have any checkable references that this really happened?
    What are the details?
    What country, what time. And who was involved?
    Without those your comment has as much validity as saying that the governing body are just ugly mermaids.
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in How were JW elders who were really Communist Spies appointed by "Holy Spirit"?   
    Sometimes .... a mission that people undertake willingly .... are not led into battle by paragons of virtue and righteousness ... or even compassion and awareness.
    I firmly believe that .... given enough time ... virtue and righteousness in the minds and hearts of men will prevail but often through the efforts of men with serious flaws, requiring mountains of bodies and oceans of blood, and fields covered in hardships of ruined lives caused by error.
    This is what happens in the REAL world ..... and until we have perfect government .... THIS WILL ALWAYS BE TRUE.
    Get used to the idea, or go bat crap crazy with a screwed up version of reality.
    In the meantime .... the very best you can do is TRUST NO ONE ... and do your best not to become someones' cannon fodder.
    ....sometimes the mission is more important than ones' indignation.
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in How were JW elders who were really Communist Spies appointed by "Holy Spirit"?   
    Sometimes .... a mission that people undertake willingly .... are not led into battle by paragons of virtue and righteousness ... or even compassion and awareness.
    I firmly believe that .... given enough time ... virtue and righteousness in the minds and hearts of men will prevail but often through the efforts of men with serious flaws, requiring mountains of bodies and oceans of blood, and fields covered in hardships of ruined lives caused by error.
    This is what happens in the REAL world ..... and until we have perfect government .... THIS WILL ALWAYS BE TRUE.
    Get used to the idea, or go bat crap crazy with a screwed up version of reality.
    In the meantime .... the very best you can do is TRUST NO ONE ... and do your best not to become someones' cannon fodder.
    ....sometimes the mission is more important than ones' indignation.
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in How were JW elders who were really Communist Spies appointed by "Holy Spirit"?   
    Sometimes .... a mission that people undertake willingly .... are not led into battle by paragons of virtue and righteousness ... or even compassion and awareness.
    I firmly believe that .... given enough time ... virtue and righteousness in the minds and hearts of men will prevail but often through the efforts of men with serious flaws, requiring mountains of bodies and oceans of blood, and fields covered in hardships of ruined lives caused by error.
    This is what happens in the REAL world ..... and until we have perfect government .... THIS WILL ALWAYS BE TRUE.
    Get used to the idea, or go bat crap crazy with a screwed up version of reality.
    In the meantime .... the very best you can do is TRUST NO ONE ... and do your best not to become someones' cannon fodder.
    ....sometimes the mission is more important than ones' indignation.
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in How present and communicative was Jehovah during the time prior to the flood?   
    In order to understand what the Bible says, AND what it ALMOST says, one has to care deeply about understanding ALL things (whether we are good at it is a whole other discussion ... especially if we are highly educated ... but everything we know is wrong, or totally screwed up with liberal agenda claptrap).
    The more you understand about life and death, freedom or imprisonment, common sense (which is not all that common ...) human nature, and the very real and difficult problem of governing groups of people so that something RESEMBLING peace, Justice, equity and righteousness may prevail, the better you will be at understanding unexplained things in everyday life, and unexplained things in the Bible.
    Just as in detective work, philosophy and riding a bicycle, if you have no sense of balance, depth perception, or stamina, barring unforeseen circumstances which bite and bless us all, your trip through life will not fare well.
    I THINK I understand why Jehovah had Jewish human males circumcised. (But then, I seriously misunderstood when my Guardian said he was taking me to the Vet, to be "tutored".)
    "Back Then", Families, Tribes, and national groups needed a way to identify each other at a distance, and close up. Arguably, the only reason a person with access to soap and water, in their right mind would get circumcised is to obey some religious edict.
    For 400 years the Jews had soldiers stationed at the Jordan River, protecting their borders, and they had several ways of "checking your I.D,", as you could be a spy, or a terrorist, or whatever you asserted. There was of course the "Sibbolith/Shibbolith" test, but  all other things seemingly OK, checking for circumcision was a pretty serious test.
    There is more, but I may address that later.
     
     
     
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in How were JW elders who were really Communist Spies appointed by "Holy Spirit"?   
    Sometimes .... a mission that people undertake willingly .... are not led into battle by paragons of virtue and righteousness ... or even compassion and awareness.
    I firmly believe that .... given enough time ... virtue and righteousness in the minds and hearts of men will prevail but often through the efforts of men with serious flaws, requiring mountains of bodies and oceans of blood, and fields covered in hardships of ruined lives caused by error.
    This is what happens in the REAL world ..... and until we have perfect government .... THIS WILL ALWAYS BE TRUE.
    Get used to the idea, or go bat crap crazy with a screwed up version of reality.
    In the meantime .... the very best you can do is TRUST NO ONE ... and do your best not to become someones' cannon fodder.
    ....sometimes the mission is more important than ones' indignation.
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    Pudgy reacted to TrueTomHarley in How were JW elders who were really Communist Spies appointed by "Holy Spirit"?   
    Yes. Exactly as was done in the first century.
    Moreover, they [Paul and Barnabas] appointed elders for them in each congregation, offering prayer with fasting, and they entrusted them to Jehovah, in whom they had become believers. (Acts 14:23)
    They are “appointed by holy spirit” in that (1) the qualifications are laid out in scripture, (2) they are judged to have met those qualifications by experienced overseers who have measured up to those qualifications themselves, after (3) prayerful consideration and consultation. That’s all the expression means. That’s all it has ever meant. 
    It doesn’t mean God takes away their free will and right to choose. It doesn’t mean he makes them automatons. It doesn’t mean that what is within the human realm cannot be tainted by the human.
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    Pudgy reacted to Srecko Sostar in How were JW elders who were really Communist Spies appointed by "Holy Spirit"?   
    All appointments to various positions and services in the WTJWorg organization are made by people. Every appointment and every removal from the appointment is done by people. I hope this "clarification" will answer your questions about topic.
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    Pudgy reacted to TrueTomHarley in How were JW elders who were really Communist Spies appointed by "Holy Spirit"?   
    If “appointed by holy spirit“ is supposed to be some sort of “foolproof” process, how could Paul have said (Acts 20:30) to first-century elders, “from among you yourselves men will rise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples after themselves?”
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in How present and communicative was Jehovah during the time prior to the flood?   
    In order to understand what the Bible says, AND what it ALMOST says, one has to care deeply about understanding ALL things (whether we are good at it is a whole other discussion ... especially if we are highly educated ... but everything we know is wrong, or totally screwed up with liberal agenda claptrap).
    The more you understand about life and death, freedom or imprisonment, common sense (which is not all that common ...) human nature, and the very real and difficult problem of governing groups of people so that something RESEMBLING peace, Justice, equity and righteousness may prevail, the better you will be at understanding unexplained things in everyday life, and unexplained things in the Bible.
    Just as in detective work, philosophy and riding a bicycle, if you have no sense of balance, depth perception, or stamina, barring unforeseen circumstances which bite and bless us all, your trip through life will not fare well.
    I THINK I understand why Jehovah had Jewish human males circumcised. (But then, I seriously misunderstood when my Guardian said he was taking me to the Vet, to be "tutored".)
    "Back Then", Families, Tribes, and national groups needed a way to identify each other at a distance, and close up. Arguably, the only reason a person with access to soap and water, in their right mind would get circumcised is to obey some religious edict.
    For 400 years the Jews had soldiers stationed at the Jordan River, protecting their borders, and they had several ways of "checking your I.D,", as you could be a spy, or a terrorist, or whatever you asserted. There was of course the "Sibbolith/Shibbolith" test, but  all other things seemingly OK, checking for circumcision was a pretty serious test.
    There is more, but I may address that later.
     
     
     
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Vaccine time   
    …. I remember my Guardian telling me about his growing up during the Civil Rights protests during the early 1960’s where the white people sat in the front of the bus, and the black people sat in the back of the bus, and Senator Kennedy of Massachusette’s made an empassioned plea that All People be considered as “green”.
    After the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, the front of the bus was reserved for light-green people.
     
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Matthew9969 in What is your favorite scripture or passage.   
    Ecclesiastes 12:12
    ” To the making of many books there is no end, and much devotion to them is worrisome to the soul …. “. and:
    Ebedeah 14:26
    ” … and at the end of all things, you will hear the music of many instruments, and a swine will break through the wall and will call out with a loud voice saying, “Ebedeah! Ebedeah! Ebedeah! … That’s All Folks!” “.
     
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in What is your favorite scripture or passage.   
    Ecclesiastes 12:12
    ” To the making of many books there is no end, and much devotion to them is worrisome to the soul …. “. and:
    Ebedeah 14:26
    ” … and at the end of all things, you will hear the music of many instruments, and a swine will break through the wall and will call out with a loud voice saying, “Ebedeah! Ebedeah! Ebedeah! … That’s All Folks!” “.
     
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    Pudgy got a reaction from xero in Vaccine time   
    Freedom is like a Salami ... you would go to war if they stole the whole Salami at once ... but they steal it from you slice, by slice, by slice ... none of which people are willing to go to war over.
    But over time ....
    Freedom .... like the Salami, has disappeared.
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Vaccine time   
    Freedom is like a Salami ... you would go to war if they stole the whole Salami at once ... but they steal it from you slice, by slice, by slice ... none of which people are willing to go to war over.
    But over time ....
    Freedom .... like the Salami, has disappeared.
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    Pudgy got a reaction from TrueTomHarley in Vaccine time   
    I thought that in 1945 the International  courts that were convened in Nuremberg Germany by Allied Forces firmly established the fact that it is illegal and immoral to force someone to take any medical treatment that they object to.
    They actually took some German soldiers, medical personnel out and hung them by the neck until dead because they did this.
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in Vaccine time   
    It just occurred to me that this emphasis on vaccination in order to have a job or privileges or opportunity might just be, or eventually evolve to be,  the “mark of the beast” spoken of in revelation.
    Just an idea, A throwaway comment, no more.
    Looking back at societal evolution, it’s been along time since we had a good witchhunt, Jew hunt, or similar madness.
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in Vaccine time   
    On a related note, the CDC has noted that some COVID vaccinated can grow up to 7 feet, although most only have 2.
    AND … It’s not necessary to get vaccinated if you are a “Transvaccinated” person who self-identifies as being vaccinated.
     
     
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in Vaccine time   
    That’s what happens when you worship at the Church of Covid.
    It’s blasphemy to disparage the holy vaccine, or it’s Prophets.
    I can visualize a pro-abortion person chastising me for refusing “the shot”, with my reply being “My body,my choice!”, and see ifit short circuits their mind.
    …….. Probably just get an oblivious blank stare.
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in Latest Info on JW.org Ramapo Audio Video Production Center   
    ....and don't forget the natural woodlands holographs protecting the entrances to the Flying Saucer repair hangers and refueling facility hollowed out with those tunnels. Those things are not cheap, you know ......
    That's why they have whole underground factories with row after row of workers at sewing machines, day after day, turning out women's fashions for the Ferengi.
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Anna in Latest Info on JW.org Ramapo Audio Video Production Center   
    There is a huge Jewish population in the Ramapo, Warwick NY area, and the new WTB&TS headquarters is also on an area peppered with old gold and silver mines, so it occurred to me that the secret agenda might be Golem Harvesting, left over from 1863 by the immigrants from what is now Prague, the Czech Republic.
     
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