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    Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in Millions Now Living Will Never Die! by J.F. Rutherford ??????????? A few questions.   
    As that was fictional sage of the ages, Yoda once said, “There is no try, there is only do“.
    ……. guessing about this, and guessing about that and extrapolating fantasies galore is certainly trying, but it’s better to say “I do not know“ and leave it at that then to be continuously committed to an agenda of being 100% wrong, 100% of the time ……  which is what we have going on now by any rational determination.
    People from one end of the Earth to the other end of the Earth, and at least for the last 6000 years or so I’ve had one opinion about how long a generation is. It’s about 100 years and they don’t overlap.
    This is reflected in The actuarial tables of  every insurance company in existence, who will insure your life based on the idea that you will be dead in 100 years, with very very few exceptions.  Many will actually pay you the proceeds of your life insurance policy at age 100, because theoretically you are dead  
     That’s the standard definition of a generation and everybody on Earth that’s not of the Governing Body or their adherents knows this to be true, and has known it to be true for the past 6000 years, or so.
    You add that to Jesus words to his disciples, and what was in his mind and what was in their mind and you get the same conclusion.
    it is very clear that in a horse race, one of the horses is going to win, and although we don’t know which one, the best bet on the strongest or the fastest one.
    The rest is up to pure dumb luck.
    Were you absolutely refuse to do that you are stuck in a position of entering a cow in a horse race.
    1.)  I  know everybody in your little tribe agrees the cow is a racehorse……… but It’s really not.
    2.). I know everybody in your little tribe agrees that the  cow is a racehorse……… but It’s really not.
    It is an agenda driven fantasy.
     
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in Millions Now Living Will Never Die! by J.F. Rutherford ??????????? A few questions.   
    Some ideas are so obviously fabricated out of desperation that although ridicule may or may not be effective, or insult the persons believing in them,  still need to be ridiculed.
    Otherwise, like the old fable goes, the King may ride on horseback  through the cheering town completely naked, because not only does he believe he is wearing the finest magical clothing, but the crowd also believes he is wearing the finest magical clothing, and it takes a child calling out what is obvious to everyone, "THE KING HAS NO CLOTHES!".
    I really think you feel insulted by my previous posts, because although they may be rough analogies, they are in fact true, but in your heart of hearts you have a conflict that cannot be allowed to resolve.
    "Millions now living will never die." was a deliberate lie, a false flag, puffery, and a taking advantage of naive and scared people for monetary gain.
    The way I resolve this, having Faith that somehow, Jehovah's Witnesses really are God's Name People, not based on derived fantasy, but on solid Biblical core doctrine, is not expect much from the leadership of ANY  religious based organization of more than somewhere around 50 to 200 people.
    We ALL have our 15 minutes of fame and shame, deluding either ourselves, each other ... or both.
    It's the nature of being human.
    In an interview on the BBC show Horizon, in 1981 Richard Feynman said this:
    "I can live with doubt, and uncertainty and not knowing.  I think it is much more interesting to live not knowing than to have answers that might be wrong."
     
     
     
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    Pudgy reacted to Arauna in Millions Now Living Will Never Die! by J.F. Rutherford ??????????? A few questions.   
    Read my answer above - reply to that in a LOGICAL way please - without the ridicule........ that is - if you are capable of answering without ridicule.  Because many people  use ridicule when they are ineffective.  I see a confused emoji there - so I guess that is the only answer I will get. 
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    Pudgy reacted to Arauna in Millions Now Living Will Never Die! by J.F. Rutherford ??????????? A few questions.   
    I was thinking:  young men who arrived in Babylon during the first group of EXILES were about 15 years old... they were educated and lived in Babylon...... many of them (except Daniel) had died out during the 70 years of exile.... 
    Many of the EXILED generation were born and died in Babylon and many of them were born (let us say) ten years before the return to Jerusalem with their parents. Due to their different overlapping  ages,   their experiences regarding the exile were different BUT they were still living in the EXilic generation. The new age groups learnt about their homeland and temple from their parents and listened to stories from their grandfathers about Jerusalem and true worship of Jehovah at the temple.  This created a longing to go back in the new age groups. 
    The EXILES returned home to Jerusalem - a home they had never seen !  They instituted  pure worship after rebuilding the temple  Were they called EXILES from Babylon? Yes.  Did they view themselves as exiles in Babylon - even if they were born there? Yes. BUT THEY WERE NOT THE ORIGINAL EXILES......... THEY WERE PART OF THE OVERLAPPING GENERATION (THE DIFFERENT AGES) WHO MADE UP THE GENERATION who experienced different parts of the exile AND  WERE CALLED EXILES! 
    Someone who reads a lot of history understand this concept very well..... but many people do not read history. This is why we also speak of empires. Empires can last hundreds of years with a certain dynasty ruling..... but this empire usually has many individual rulers. The PERIOD is clumped together because the time is defined by many similar characteristics! And one dynasty ruling.
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    Pudgy reacted to Arauna in Millions Now Living Will Never Die! by J.F. Rutherford ??????????? A few questions.   
    Ridiculous... this is not a reasonable argument it is an insulting statement....  when a person cannot be logical they insult. 
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Anna in Millions Now Living Will Never Die! by J.F. Rutherford ??????????? A few questions.   
    As that was fictional sage of the ages, Yoda once said, “There is no try, there is only do“.
    ……. guessing about this, and guessing about that and extrapolating fantasies galore is certainly trying, but it’s better to say “I do not know“ and leave it at that then to be continuously committed to an agenda of being 100% wrong, 100% of the time ……  which is what we have going on now by any rational determination.
    People from one end of the Earth to the other end of the Earth, and at least for the last 6000 years or so I’ve had one opinion about how long a generation is. It’s about 100 years and they don’t overlap.
    This is reflected in The actuarial tables of  every insurance company in existence, who will insure your life based on the idea that you will be dead in 100 years, with very very few exceptions.  Many will actually pay you the proceeds of your life insurance policy at age 100, because theoretically you are dead  
     That’s the standard definition of a generation and everybody on Earth that’s not of the Governing Body or their adherents knows this to be true, and has known it to be true for the past 6000 years, or so.
    You add that to Jesus words to his disciples, and what was in his mind and what was in their mind and you get the same conclusion.
    it is very clear that in a horse race, one of the horses is going to win, and although we don’t know which one, the best bet on the strongest or the fastest one.
    The rest is up to pure dumb luck.
    Were you absolutely refuse to do that you are stuck in a position of entering a cow in a horse race.
    1.)  I  know everybody in your little tribe agrees the cow is a racehorse……… but It’s really not.
    2.). I know everybody in your little tribe agrees that the  cow is a racehorse……… but It’s really not.
    It is an agenda driven fantasy.
     
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    Pudgy reacted to Space Merchant in Millions Now Living Will Never Die! by J.F. Rutherford ??????????? A few questions.   
    Well there is also an issue to this where some attempt to use spurious text.
    Example, this spurious verses: 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. Led people to believe that they can drink poison, be it from snake or other, and assuming that they will not be harmed. and or not at Death's Door after consumption. Believe it or not, some people actually did take this literally and paid for it. On top of that, these same folks believe that they still have specific gifts of which the Apostles had in the past, i.e. have visions/be transfigured, as is with Inspired Prophets, despite the fact such ability died off with the last Apostle.
    On the other side of the spectrum, it cannot be confused with anything pertaining to prophecy, which is written and or is to take place and or to come.
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in Millions Now Living Will Never Die! by J.F. Rutherford ??????????? A few questions.   
    Your example, Ariana, may prove something …. But it does not prove different generations make up one generation, any more than cutting a fishing worm into three parts proves the Trinity.
    The fact remains that NOWHERE did Jesus teach overlapping generations. 
    The whole concept is a desperate fantasy to try and recover from being 100% wrong, 100% of the time, to desperate people who lubricate the “Chariot’s” wheels with a never ending waterfall of money, desperately wanting to believe it is true.
    …. and emotionally comforted because with this fantasy explanation, their faith is now justified, and all is well.
  9. Haha
    Pudgy got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in God’s cursed the serpent to lose it’s limbs and crawl on its belly.   
    Occasionally people are born with a molar growing out the top of a foot, or six appendages, or cojoined, or one is a parasite on another ... or no eye sockets.
    What does THAT prove?
    What is proves is that God cursed ONE snake .... not the billions of snakes that were contemporary to that time, or future snakes.
    ...or any one of a dozen OTHER different theories.
    And besides, who is to say if that snake's legs are just a deformity?
     
  10. Haha
    Pudgy got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Millions Now Living Will Never Die! by J.F. Rutherford ??????????? A few questions.   
    Your example, Ariana, may prove something …. But it does not prove different generations make up one generation, any more than cutting a fishing worm into three parts proves the Trinity.
    The fact remains that NOWHERE did Jesus teach overlapping generations. 
    The whole concept is a desperate fantasy to try and recover from being 100% wrong, 100% of the time, to desperate people who lubricate the “Chariot’s” wheels with a never ending waterfall of money, desperately wanting to believe it is true.
    …. and emotionally comforted because with this fantasy explanation, their faith is now justified, and all is well.
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Millions Now Living Will Never Die! by J.F. Rutherford ??????????? A few questions.   
    Your example, Ariana, may prove something …. But it does not prove different generations make up one generation, any more than cutting a fishing worm into three parts proves the Trinity.
    The fact remains that NOWHERE did Jesus teach overlapping generations. 
    The whole concept is a desperate fantasy to try and recover from being 100% wrong, 100% of the time, to desperate people who lubricate the “Chariot’s” wheels with a never ending waterfall of money, desperately wanting to believe it is true.
    …. and emotionally comforted because with this fantasy explanation, their faith is now justified, and all is well.
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in Millions Now Living Will Never Die! by J.F. Rutherford ??????????? A few questions.   
    (1.)  You can read the biblical accounts, it’s either there or it’s not there.
    (2.)  You can read the biblical accounts, it’s either there or it’s not there.
    It’s not there.

     
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in Millions Now Living Will Never Die! by J.F. Rutherford ??????????? A few questions.   
    Your example, Ariana, may prove something …. But it does not prove different generations make up one generation, any more than cutting a fishing worm into three parts proves the Trinity.
    The fact remains that NOWHERE did Jesus teach overlapping generations. 
    The whole concept is a desperate fantasy to try and recover from being 100% wrong, 100% of the time, to desperate people who lubricate the “Chariot’s” wheels with a never ending waterfall of money, desperately wanting to believe it is true.
    …. and emotionally comforted because with this fantasy explanation, their faith is now justified, and all is well.
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    Pudgy got a reaction from TheWorldNewsOrg in God’s cursed the serpent to lose it’s limbs and crawl on its belly.   
    Occasionally people are born with a molar growing out the top of a foot, or six appendages, or cojoined, or one is a parasite on another ... or no eye sockets.
    What does THAT prove?
    What is proves is that God cursed ONE snake .... not the billions of snakes that were contemporary to that time, or future snakes.
    ...or any one of a dozen OTHER different theories.
    And besides, who is to say if that snake's legs are just a deformity?
     
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in Millions Now Living Will Never Die! by J.F. Rutherford ??????????? A few questions.   
    That is not the question you should be asking.
    The question you should be asking is this:
    "When Jesus was talking to his Disciples, was he teaching "Overlapping Generations?".
    The answer is NO!
     
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in Millions Now Living Will Never Die! by J.F. Rutherford ??????????? A few questions.   
    I agree with you there ... just as long as I do not have to accept "Overlapping Generations", which as far as I know, was never taught by Jesus, but is taught by the Governing Body.
     
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Millions Now Living Will Never Die! by J.F. Rutherford ??????????? A few questions.   
    (1.)  You can read the biblical accounts, it’s either there or it’s not there.
    (2.)  You can read the biblical accounts, it’s either there or it’s not there.
    It’s not there.

     
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Millions Now Living Will Never Die! by J.F. Rutherford ??????????? A few questions.   
    (1.)  You can read the biblical accounts, it’s either there or it’s not there.
    (2.)  You can read the biblical accounts, it’s either there or it’s not there.
    It’s not there.

     
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in Millions Now Living Will Never Die! by J.F. Rutherford ??????????? A few questions.   
    That is not the question you should be asking.
    The question you should be asking is this:
    "When Jesus was talking to his Disciples, was he teaching "Overlapping Generations?".
    The answer is NO!
     
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in Millions Now Living Will Never Die! by J.F. Rutherford ??????????? A few questions.   
    I agree with you there ... just as long as I do not have to accept "Overlapping Generations", which as far as I know, was never taught by Jesus, but is taught by the Governing Body.
     
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    Pudgy got a reaction from TheWorldNewsOrg in Fossils are really proof of the Flood of Noah's Day   
    I have on my bookshelf a diamond saw cut section from a fossilized tree trunk, with perfectly preserved bark, that fell to Earth 65 million years ago in Guatemala, and over the eons it drifted North on moving tectonic plates to Arizona, where it was bought at a curio shop on the side of the road, next to millions of other fallen trees, exposed by erosion.
    ...it had NOTHING to do with any flood.
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    Pudgy got a reaction from TheWorldNewsOrg in Did the Pre-flood air have 50% more oxygen in it?   
    My best guess is that words and phrases had different meanings "back then".
    We know that during the times of the dinosaurs the Earth's atmosphere had significantly more oxygen, but that in the millions of years that followed, this was not the case.
    The evidence supports the idea that increased oxygen will help DNA based life forms grow larger.
      There is no evidence that it helps DNA life forms have a longer lifespan.
    Unless of course someone is strangling you, and you smash them with a large rock.
    Who would have ever thought that the phrase "Let's Go Brandon" has a completely different meaning?
    The Oceans NEVER used atmospheric oxygen to form, hydrogen and oxygen, and many other gasses supersaturated magma and lava. The expansion as the pressure lessens is why a trillion tons of rock can be blasted 28 miles high, and circle the Earth.
    The Oceans were originally saturated with water, methane, and iron, among many other things,  .... NO oxygen to speak of, until photosynthetic plant life in the water started creating oxygen, at which time the iron rusted, and fell out, and the methane escaped.
    Whoever made the statements above this post is completely uninformed, and promoting an agenda driven scenario, completely false.
     
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Millions Now Living Will Never Die! by J.F. Rutherford ??????????? A few questions.   
    That is not the question you should be asking.
    The question you should be asking is this:
    "When Jesus was talking to his Disciples, was he teaching "Overlapping Generations?".
    The answer is NO!
     
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Millions Now Living Will Never Die! by J.F. Rutherford ??????????? A few questions.   
    That is not the question you should be asking.
    The question you should be asking is this:
    "When Jesus was talking to his Disciples, was he teaching "Overlapping Generations?".
    The answer is NO!
     
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Millions Now Living Will Never Die! by J.F. Rutherford ??????????? A few questions.   
    I agree with you there ... just as long as I do not have to accept "Overlapping Generations", which as far as I know, was never taught by Jesus, but is taught by the Governing Body.
     
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