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Pudgy got a reaction from Ray Devereaux in Conscience individual and collective
I personally do not mind if you are here. or anywhere at all. I just come here, expecting you to stroke out in mid typed sentence.
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Pudgy got a reaction from Ray Devereaux in Conscience individual and collective
...so did Quisling, former Prime Minister of Norway during the Nazi Occupation, EVEN when he was executed by firing squad by the Norwegian people.
...and to be fair ... if anyone attacks you. it's not really you that they are attackng ... its your goofball ideas. philosophy, and general hatefulness toward them.
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Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in Conscience individual and collective
... and you, Ceser, are ALSO wrong about wolves not needing a veterinarian.
We have coyotes where I live and they are a miserable lot ... full of ticks, fleas, intestinal and heart worms and parasites, and dozens of others; infections of every sort, crippled, on the verge of starvation, their skin and fur with open sores, mange and other diseases. Even Rabies.
How does it feel to be wrong about EVERYTHING, because of malicious bitterness?
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Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in Conscience individual and collective
Well ... the Brothers in Russia were arrested and convicted and are now serving sentences for being terrorists/extremists, and the enemys of civilization ... none of which are true. Witnesses are the most sheeplike persons on Earth, although that is not an exclusive club.
Years ago we studied the differences between a reproach (accusation), and a reproof (conviction) .... but that must have been before your time, Seezer, as it is apparent you do not know the real life difference.
Even with the Brother's convictions in Russia, they are still in reality free from any reproach or accusation by virtuous men who know the difference.
You destroy any credibility you might have had with wild accusations at EVERYBODY, and calling virtuous Brothers with a viewpoint that does not agree with yours sons and daughters of Satan.
..... such is the stuff witch hunts are made of.
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Pudgy reacted to TrueTomHarley in Jehovah’s Witnesses: The World’s Most Persecuted Religion
Don’t persecute them! a certain foe with no use for Witnesses urged Russia. You’ll just feed into their “persecution complex.”
Well—sure. The best way to feed a “persecution complex” is to persecute whoever has it. On the other hand—which came first: the chicken or the egg? If there really is persecution, who says it is a persecution complex? Isn’t reality the word he is searching for?
In December 2020, there came an United States Commission on International Religious Freedom report—it is a bipartisan commission, and thus not a product of any one political administration—entitled: “The Global Persecution of Jehovah’s Witness.” Religious scholar Massino Introvigne digests it and issues the obvious byline: “Jehovah’s Witnesses: The World’s Most Persecuted Religion.”
The report serves to erase all doubt, even among Witnesses themselves, that theirs is the most persecuted religion today. It is not that other faiths do not suffer persecution from place to place—they certainly do—at times more brutal than that of the Witnesses. It is that no matter where you go, the Witnesses face it in one form or another. The USCIRF focuses on nine different nations—they are all assigned subheadings: Eritrea, Russia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Singapore, and South Korea, but makes clear that these are just the tip of the iceberg, which does “not include the many other countries where the faith is banned or faces official harassment. The situation is ultimately even bleaker than our survey might indicate.”
Those many verses about persecution?
“You will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name.” (Matthew 24:9)
“All those desiring to live with godly devotion in association with Christ Jesus will also be persecuted.” (2 Tim 3:12)
If the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you.. If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own....Bear in mind the word I said to you, A slave is not greater than his master. If they have persecuted me, they will persecute you also.” (John 15:18-20)
and others? They are fulfilled upon the group whose members approach persons one-on-one to speak “about God and bearing witness to Jesus.” (Revelation 1:9) There were repercussions when John did it—exile to the island of Patmos. There are repercussions today. In Russia, it has been exile to Siberia.
Jehovah’s Witnesses are pacifists—why shouldn’t non-pacifists earn the ‘extremist’ label? They’re industrious. Why shouldn’t those who leach off society top the list? They’re obedient to government authority. Why shouldn’t the disobedient be ‘extremist?’ They live, work, and school in the community; they visit their neighbors with Bible thoughts. Why shouldn’t the reclusive and secretive hermits take top ‘extremist’ honors? Even those who dislike them will describe them individually as “very nice people.” Why shouldn’t those not nice win first ‘extremist’ prize? The easiest gig a cop will ever pull is to be assigned traffic control outside the Regional Convention. Everyone smiles at him or nods a greeting. No one calls him a pig. Why doesn’t a group where people do call him a pig take top ‘extremist’ honors?
It is crazy, so contrary to what anyone would expect, yet it is the way things are. So crazy is it, yet so exactly fulfilling Bible expectations, that it all but screams: Here they are! Here are the people hated for doing good—exactly as the Bible said would be the case! The top dishonor of ‘most persecuted’ becomes the top honor of ‘identifying the people taken from the nations for God’s name.’ (Acts 15:14) It is why I ended a chapter in I Don’t Know Why We Persecute Jehovah’s Witnesses: Searching for the Why with: “When searching the field of religion, look for the group that is individually praised but collectively maligned.”
As for suffering under persecution, Jehovah’s Witnesses will be fortified with: “What merit is there in it if, when you are sinning and being slapped, you endure it? But if, when you are doing good and you suffer, you endure it, this is a thing agreeable with God.” (1 Peter 2:20-21) “Look! We pronounce happy those who have endured”—the James 5:11 verse is woven into the current circuit assembly program. As is Proverbs 27:11: “Be wise, my son, and make my heart rejoice, that I may make a reply to him that is taunting me.” It is the Devil taunting God, as he did with Job, that a person will serve God only when the going is easy.
If you peer into the pants of this or that king to tell of his soiled underwear, you can expect him to get mad. But what if you treat him with respect while you simply go about your innocuous business? Won’t he leave you alone? You would certainly think so, is the gist of Introvigne’s parting remark, but—alas—it is not so:
“What the Jehovah’s Witnesses defend is the right to live differently, in this world, yet part of a kingdom ‘not of this world,’ as Jesus says in John 18:36. Are our societies prepared to tolerate those who live in a way different from the majority’s, as long as they are peaceful, honest, and law-abiding citizens? That the answer is ‘no’ in an increasing number of countries proves that our world is becoming a dangerous environment for religious liberty.”
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Pudgy reacted to xero in Conscience individual and collective
Even though we're not supposed to be political, I've noticed that I can still detect leanings in the friends. But then again, it's not as if god's kingdom isn't a government with a history behind it's development and an agenda for the future, but I do see some who cherry pick ideas here and there to support their wankish condemnations of others, often while doing so betraying more of the issues they'll eventually have to deal with than those these look w/either an envious or jaundiced eye down upon.
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Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in Conscience individual and collective
I personally do not mind if you are here. or anywhere at all. I just come here, expecting you to stroke out in mid typed sentence.
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Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in Conscience individual and collective
...so did Quisling, former Prime Minister of Norway during the Nazi Occupation, EVEN when he was executed by firing squad by the Norwegian people.
...and to be fair ... if anyone attacks you. it's not really you that they are attackng ... its your goofball ideas. philosophy, and general hatefulness toward them.
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Pudgy got a reaction from César Chávez in Conscience individual and collective
...so did Quisling, former Prime Minister of Norway during the Nazi Occupation, EVEN when he was executed by firing squad by the Norwegian people.
...and to be fair ... if anyone attacks you. it's not really you that they are attackng ... its your goofball ideas. philosophy, and general hatefulness toward them.
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Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in Conscience individual and collective
From your own perspective, quoted above, you greatly esteem being a witness to the Watchtower, and consider those that are not to be witnesses of Satan.
I suspect those you accuse are just trying to "get by" .... hoping to someday achieve the goal of being Witnesses to Jehovah.
....there IS a difference.
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Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in Conscience individual and collective
... I expect you will certainly miss the irony of your statement.
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Pudgy got a reaction from César Chávez in Conscience individual and collective
... and you, Ceser, are ALSO wrong about wolves not needing a veterinarian.
We have coyotes where I live and they are a miserable lot ... full of ticks, fleas, intestinal and heart worms and parasites, and dozens of others; infections of every sort, crippled, on the verge of starvation, their skin and fur with open sores, mange and other diseases. Even Rabies.
How does it feel to be wrong about EVERYTHING, because of malicious bitterness?
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Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in Conscience individual and collective
You are living in a fantasy world.
How many times do wolves get to a veterinarian?
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Pudgy reacted to TrueTomHarley in Conscience individual and collective
Seven people tagged but you didn’t say goodbye to Cesar.
He has feelings, too, you know.
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Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in Conscience individual and collective
If you are "wisdom personified" I will pass ......
Even dogs, disgusting as we are, know not to be hateful, insulting, vindictive and malicious.
Willy-Nilly, most people LIKE dogs, because we are naturally happy!
Your misery screams out ahead of you like a runaway locomotive approaching a bridge-out.
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Pudgy reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Conscience individual and collective
UM, haven't missed much have I. I've not been here for days but having now read it all, well nothing new.
The one thing I did note is that @xero is really hung up on people's mental state. @Arauna would call it OCD probably. Oh yes, and that cesar person seems to think I am @Pudgy, sorry Pudgy.
I wish you all well. I am too busy selling and then buying vehicles and building sheds. The weather here in England is fabulous so making the most of it.
@JW Insider seems to make it known how mixed up the GB / leaders of the JW org are concerning the owning or reading of 'other religious literature'.
Best regards to @Srecko Sostar and @TrueTomHarley and @Anna
Take care and be good y'all. I'll try to stay away for another few days.
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Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in Conscience individual and collective
Then both of you have my profound sympathies.
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Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in Conscience individual and collective
That is true ..... but I do recognize hateful, unhappy bitterness and malicious insulting insecurity in humans.
Your misery screams out ahead of you like a runaway locomotive approaching a bridge-out.
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Pudgy got a reaction from César Chávez in Conscience individual and collective
If you are "wisdom personified" I will pass ......
Even dogs, disgusting as we are, know not to be hateful, insulting, vindictive and malicious.
Willy-Nilly, most people LIKE dogs, because we are naturally happy!
Your misery screams out ahead of you like a runaway locomotive approaching a bridge-out.
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Pudgy got a reaction from FatGrotesqueJT in Conscience individual and collective
..... unless of course you are a man having a conversation with a woman .... then you are ALWAYS wrong.
The reason men play the Lottery more than women is that they think the odds are better at winning.
...... and the reason that men die almost a decade before women is .....
... they want to.
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Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in Conscience individual and collective
..... I know ... I feel the same way about cats.
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Pudgy got a reaction from Dmitar in Conscience individual and collective
Of course, neither Dogs or Jehovah's Witnesses vote.
For Dogs it is because of the failed French Poodle rebellion of 1870, and we have had to eat from dishes on the ground, since then.
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Pudgy got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Conscience individual and collective
In Finland the government considers any suppression of the right to vote to be a violation of basic human decency and God-given rights of dignity and self determination. As such as they threatened Jehovah’s Witnesses with revocation of the charity status if they were involved with anything and violated basic human rights. Jehovah’s Witness charity status entitles them by law to siphon off tax money in relationship to how many parishioners they have and in this case it’s about $12 million a year. The Society does not want to lose that money, so they have made a dispensation for Finnish Jehovah’s Witnesses, and there’s no congregational sanctions of any sort if a Witness wants to vote in Finnish elections.
I know of one brother locally who the Elders called him up and ask if he had voted because they saw he was a registered voter. He related the incident above and they had nothing to say.
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Pudgy got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Conscience individual and collective
.... most dogs have an IQ of about 120, but remember that you have to divide that by seven.
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Pudgy reacted to xero in Conscience individual and collective
Then there was crusty, cranky old Bro Manera. I remember being at an elders meeting w/him and floated the idea of turning unassigned territory into telephone territory that congregations could GET assigned and these could then work them any way they'd like - phone, physical, letters - the closest to in person was best, but the point would be to get to these people more frequently.
He didn't get it. He said "I think it would be confusing to the ones who were working it.". I blurted out "I don't think you get it. No one's working the territory because it's not assigned. Why not just assign it and get the job done w/whatever means can be made?" As all the other elders (except one) looked at me like I'd lost my mind.