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    Pudgy got a reaction from Fausto Hoover in September 2023 brings a “global campaign” for the Jehovah’s Witnesses   
    …. and Eric, you are confusing two entirely separate things. 
    By not being perfect, Adam and Eve lost any advantages of the natural consequences that being perfect brings.
    Eternal life
    Superior genetics
    The ability to have two way conversations with the Creator
    … and many others.
    It’s like when an employee is just “not working out” and is belligerent, disobedient, insubordinate, lazy, or just refuses to “get with the program”.
    I have had to fire, or recommend that they be fired, and they had to pack up their stuff in cardboard boxes, and be escorted off the property.
    Not having employment, many lives fell apart, and were ruined.
    But as “unsuitable” as they were, and denied the “blessings” of a good job, THEY WERE NOT MY ENEMIES.
    An ENEMY is someone marked for death and YOU ARE the one that actively seeks to KILL THEM.
    If the fired employee takes his cardboard box home, and dies of a a stroke or heart attack, “Stuff Happens”. 
    But, he is NOT THE ENEMY.
    An ENEMY is someone you seek out and cut their throat with a sharp knife when they are sleeping, because they are a real, clear, and present danger.
    Babies are not a real, clear and present danger.
    Jehovah has the Sovereign right to kill any of us at any time for any reason, or no reason at all, even babies, as he did in Egypt so long ago.
    That does NOT MAKE babies natural enemies of God.
     
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    Pudgy reacted to Srecko Sostar in September 2023 brings a “global campaign” for the Jehovah’s Witnesses   
    Perhaps this could be looked at with the following idea. Angels materialized after their perfection was taken away. Similar to Adam and Eve, who bore children after their perfection was taken away, so their children were imperfect, too.
    The Logos did not materialize like the aforementioned angels, but was born as the man Jesus. His perfect DNA could prevail in the genetics of his children, so the children would perhaps be less imperfect and thus less hostile to God?

    This whole discussion was caused by one frivolous statement of a GB member. Now we see how much damage the leading people at WTJWorg are causing by generating botched discussions due to GB botched instructions. And so for 140 years.
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Errikos Tsiamis in September 2023 brings a “global campaign” for the Jehovah’s Witnesses   
    Perfect common sense rebuttal!
    And the logic and reasoning is theologically sound, reasonable, and the logic is solid, Srecko Sostar.
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in September 2023 brings a “global campaign” for the Jehovah’s Witnesses   
    Perfect common sense rebuttal!
    And the logic and reasoning is theologically sound, reasonable, and the logic is solid, Srecko Sostar.
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    Pudgy reacted to Srecko Sostar in September 2023 brings a “global campaign” for the Jehovah’s Witnesses   
    Is this statement in any context? Be that as it may, it gives the message that GB members, who according to your own words and their own are imperfect, are ultimately enemies of God. So the enemies of God run WTJWorg?
     
    Commentary through the question about materialized angels. Are their children, the Nephilim, evil because they were born of angelic fathers and earthly women? Or because they were not well raised by their parents?
    If Jesus had children with an earthly woman, would his children be evil from birth, because he is of angelic origin as well (I say angelic because WTJWorg considers him to be the angel Michael)?
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Fausto Hoover in September 2023 brings a “global campaign” for the Jehovah’s Witnesses   
    My antics are meaningless?
    HAHAAHAhahahaa.!!

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    Pudgy got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in September 2023 brings a “global campaign” for the Jehovah’s Witnesses   
    By the way, Freddie,  if you intend to try to weasel way your way out of your own words by saying I took you out of context, I have a screenshot of your entire post.
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in September 2023 brings a “global campaign” for the Jehovah’s Witnesses   
    It was not a simple mistake.
    This was NOT a live broadcast. 
    It was a pre-recorded broadcast that was reviewed by many “helpers”, and the entire Governing Body before being approved for broadcast.
     

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    Pudgy got a reaction from Fausto Hoover in September 2023 brings a “global campaign” for the Jehovah’s Witnesses   
    It was not a simple mistake.
    This was NOT a live broadcast. 
    It was a pre-recorded broadcast that was reviewed by many “helpers”, and the entire Governing Body before being approved for broadcast.
     

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    Pudgy got a reaction from Fausto Hoover in September 2023 brings a “global campaign” for the Jehovah’s Witnesses   
    The only questions I have after reading the previous attempts at hypnotic tomes, is which one of you two is the puppetmaster, and which one of you two is the sock puppet?
     

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    Pudgy reacted to Srecko Sostar in September 2023 brings a “global campaign” for the Jehovah’s Witnesses   
    baby
    1 of 3 noun
    ba·by ˈbā-bē    pluralbabies Synonyms of baby 1 a(1) : an extremely young child especially : INFANT   https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/baby   A speaker like S. Lett probably knows how to use a noun and probably knows in which context he can use it. From the video clip, he used the noun in a temporal context that includes the moment/time after the birth of a child by a woman.
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    Pudgy reacted to Srecko Sostar in September 2023 brings a “global campaign” for the Jehovah’s Witnesses   
    Based on the above, we can accept other possibilities of conclusion. The idea "that we have the capacity to become enemies of God" was realized by the very act of God's creation of angels and the first humans.
    The possibility and capacity to be an enemy does not arise from the fact that someone is born/created perfect or imperfect, but from the fact that all of them have the freedom to decide that all of them  have free will, which they received from God. So, God is the cause of this possibility for someone to become his enemy. And what are we going to do now?
    Free will exists only when we can realize it in reality. Before that it is just a fantasy of the mind. When can a baby realize, exercise its free will? 
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    Pudgy reacted to Srecko Sostar in September 2023 brings a “global campaign” for the Jehovah’s Witnesses   
    Something else is sad. That something else is not a state of wariness of former or "spiritually" weak JWs, but complete trust in one's own religious leaders. Thus, the invitation by which Gerrit Losch asked JWs to have complete trust in GB as if it were Jesus and JHVH is being fulfilled. And other biblical passages are fulfilled which warn us not to trust in the dignitaries of this (WTJWorg) world.
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Fausto Hoover in September 2023 brings a “global campaign” for the Jehovah’s Witnesses   
    You are insane, without the slightest shred of common sense.
    Your DIRECT QUOTE above proves that.
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Fausto Hoover in September 2023 brings a “global campaign” for the Jehovah’s Witnesses   
    Choked again eh?
    It’s a simple “yes” or “no” answer to a simple “yes” or “no” question.
    Something you seem totally incapable of doing.
    This is known as “Agenda Lock”.
    The Truth will set you Free.
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Fausto Hoover in September 2023 brings a “global campaign” for the Jehovah’s Witnesses   
    Either babies are  the ENEMIES OF GOD.
    Or they are not.
    So …. which is it Frankie?
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    Pudgy reacted to Srecko Sostar in September 2023 brings a “global campaign” for the Jehovah’s Witnesses   
    Belief in the theological doctrine that we all inherited the sin of Adam and Eve and are therefore born sinful and therefore destined to make major and minor mistakes throughout life (that we are prone to sin) is a type of assertion and dogma. Claiming that babies are enemies of God is beyond that first concept.
    Does the claim/fact that you were born/created imperfect and prone to sin inevitably mean that you are an enemy of God from the first day of your life?
    Does the claim/fact that you were born/created perfect mean that you are not an enemy of God?
    Adam and Eve were created/born perfect, says the WTJWorg interpretation. Nowhere in the Bible does God call the two of them His enemies, before or after sin.
    On the other hand, the rebel perfect angel was called Satan or enemy/adversary only after the rebellion.
    When can an imperfect baby be held responsible for rebellion?
    Enmity between them and God was not automatically established from the act that happened to Adam and Eve. Because they did not rebel against God in the way that the Angel did. They "just" disobeyed him about eating the fruit from the tree. That is why God had no reason to call them enemies. If God did not call these two adults and mature people enemies, why would, according to the interpretation of GB member S.L. , babies should be considered enemies of God?
    The Bible, in its later NT writings, connects the concept of enmity with God to certain activities that cause the persons who do so to be associated with enemies. Babies are never called enemies, as far as i know.
    Furthermore, the question of hatred also opens up here. Does the Enemy deserve our hatred? Yes or no? Does God show hatred towards Adam and Eve? Towards Satan? To people who aren't his fans/worshipers?
    But JWs are ready to hate "their enemies"? Yes or no?
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in September 2023 brings a “global campaign” for the Jehovah’s Witnesses   
    Choked again eh?
    It’s a simple “yes” or “no” answer to a simple “yes” or “no” question.
    Something you seem totally incapable of doing.
    This is known as “Agenda Lock”.
    The Truth will set you Free.
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in September 2023 brings a “global campaign” for the Jehovah’s Witnesses   
    Very simple questions that have“yes”, or “no” answers, Frankie, and you choke … then vomit up a rambling rant of a thousand words to try and deflect that you are defending the indefensible.

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    Pudgy got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in September 2023 brings a “global campaign” for the Jehovah’s Witnesses   
    Either babies are  the ENEMIES OF GOD.
    Or they are not.
    So …. which is it Frankie?
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Fausto Hoover in Did you know....   
    … anyone who spasm downvotes irrefutable historical facts is doomed.

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    Pudgy got a reaction from Fausto Hoover in September 2023 brings a “global campaign” for the Jehovah’s Witnesses   
    Very simple questions that have“yes”, or “no” answers, Frankie, and you choke … then vomit up a rambling rant of a thousand words to try and deflect that you are defending the indefensible.

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    Pudgy got a reaction from Matthew9969 in September 2023 brings a “global campaign” for the Jehovah’s Witnesses   
    How many tens of thousands of men and women have been CHASED AWAY from Truth by insane statements such as this?
    Listen carefully … Lett’s premise is absurd, actually there are TWO false premises …. and the conclusion is absurd drivel.
    We are no more “born as enemies of God” than a puppy, or a baby elephant is born “an enemy of God”.
    We are just born.
    Without an automatic birthright.
    An “ENEMY” is something altogether different.
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    Pudgy got a reaction from Fausto Hoover in September 2023 brings a “global campaign” for the Jehovah’s Witnesses   
    Feeling a little down? Think you've really screwed the pooch this time? Come with the Babylon Bee as we crack open the Scriptures and check out some Bible heroes who have done way, way stupider stuff than you!
    Adam: You may be feeling a little blue today, but did sin and death enter the world through you? See, it's not so bad.
    Samson: His girlfriend betrayed him to be tortured by enemies - TWICE - and the third time, he STILL FELL FOR IT! Come on.
    Jonah: This guy legit tried to run away from the Creator of the universe on a boat. Way dumber than you!
    Abraham: You may have messed up today, but did you lie about your wife being your sister? TWICE?
    Balaam: This prophet of God beat the heck out of his own donkey, who was only trying to save Balaam from getting killed by an angel with a flaming sword. Ouch.
    Aaron: First he helps lead the miraculous Exodus, then he leads millions of people into idolatrous demon worship. That's pretty bad!
    David: He failed to install a Covenant Eyes filter on his rooftop, leading to adultery, murder and ultimately his kingdom's destruction. Puts your mistakes in perspective.
    Paul: Before encountering Jesus, he literally went from town-to-town murdering Christians. Probably worse than what you did today.
    Cain: This guy thought offering someone vegetables was a good idea. VEGETABLES!
    Peter: One of Jesus's favorite disciples rebuked the Lord over His plan to die for our sins. So, yeah, pretty stupid in hindsight!
    Yikes! Feel better now? Sure you do!
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