Dmitar

When someone is deceptive about others, then Satan makes those people seemingly profess the truth. However twisted that truth is. Yet, this doesn't answer my question. You said you have insight. I was asking for proof on how a GB member has been manipulating scripture by interpretation to benefit himself. Can you provide the proof or not? You can ask any of your defenders here through I.M.
Twisting things around to work with your vision is not proof. That's just means you are compromising your integrity.

Here’s another one, enjoy it😉

Another woeful fool making his descent by a down vote. Typical ignorance. When the observation is obtuse, the only response is, reject.

This means you object to the information held by the Government? Do you usually give your private information, such as your address, social security number, phone number, to a stranger or anyone asking you for it?
Can I have your address, Date of Birth, and social security number, since you object to databases?
With this assumption you just made, can I have Pearl Doxsey's home address, phone number, social security number, DOB, etc.?
I assume, since personal data is a stumbling block to the 4Woman Group, you have that info.
Or are you going to renege and refuse to give me the information I'm asking for? If so, Why?
Do you have a database of all former Jehovah's Witnesses, or how about the database of the Vatican that you can share, since you OBJECT to private information held by ANY institution?
I must warn you, in the USA, it's against secular law to make such a breach of private information. But, I'm confident with your resolve, you won't mind spending 10 years in prison. Even for people convicted of murder. So, can I have that info? For internet access, it's called HACKING when someone obtains confidential or private information. They will give any person up to 30 years.
Maybe you, @Patiently waiting for Truth and all other former Jehovah's Witnesses, can band together and enjoy a good prison sentence for the greater good. 
That way we can finally have dirt on people that have fornicated, committed adultery, have homosexual tendencies, spousal abuse, have past convictions of rubbery, arson, assault, etc. Once again, your imprisonment would be for the greater to obtain certain information that is NONE of your business according to the bible 1 Thessalonians 4:11-12 and secular law.
Also, reference, John 21:20-22, Romans 14:4, 1 Peter 4:15
Now information that secular authority contends is for public safety, then you need to reference secular authority protocols, like finding the information of a person placed on probation for child porn. In the USA, States determine how certain information is given. For sex offenders, a database is collected and posted. With your argument, that database would be problematic for you.
Ironically, being placed on probation for CHILD PORN is NOT considered good enough to be placed in a sex offender database in some States. 

Dear old Dimmy is at it again. Questions not for the sake of truth but just for the sake of causing disagreement. 
Dimmy, I am no part of that world you keep comparing everything to. 
You keep up the same old same old, it gets sooooooooooo repetitive. 
The JW Org consists of people that worship 8 men and worship that Organisaton. Therefore those people are supporting the immoral, dishonest, greedy, wicked, GB and it's Org. 

Yes it's true. and we can now see how evil the GB and their helpers are. 
  Srecko Sostar said:      GB+Helpers+Writing department fall under that category too? Dimmy replied.  No, They know what they're doing.
Yes Dimmy, the GB et al, do know what they are doing, hence they will probably not 'enter their promised land'. 
A wicked slave is what they have become. 
 

The people led by God's Holy Spirit should be the spiritual JEW, which is ONLY the TRUE ANOINTED ONES.
The Watchtower seems to have none of them. The JW Org seems to have none of them either.
Do you keep forgetting that scripture about 'Ten men clinging to the robe of a JEW' 
The 'ten men' are the earthly class. The JEW is the True Anointed ones. 
The Governing Body of the W/t - JW Org are not of that True Anointing. By their works you will know them. 
If they ever were of the Anointed, they have certainly thrown it all away just as Adam threw away life. 

Oh no not that broken record again. More false predictions from the Rambo dreamer, that thinks he gets special info' from somewhere.
On the one hand he pretend to be a JW but then on the other hand he make his own predictions. I think he needs better meds. 

In a twisted way, they have made this distinction partially through their private database.  As doctrine changes and new publications are eventually dropped, the private database will grow, evidence of their lack of spiritual insight - the "wrong".   I liken it to their massive, dark garbage heap that “privileged” ones can still rummage through, to dig for a paragraph or sentence, appearing to contain some value.  I’m sure the writing committee and the GB relies on these “gems” when forming their new articles and talks; and it comes through as "wisdom", wearing a new coat of paint, but still its origin is from the garbage heap.  
Sometimes the Message Bible gets right to the point.
Ezekiel chapter 13
God’s Message came to me: “Son of man, preach against the prophets of Israel who are making things up out of their own heads and calling it ‘prophesying.’ “Preach to them the real thing. Tell them, ‘Listen to God’s Message!’ God, the Master, pronounces doom on the empty-headed prophets who do their own thing and know nothing of what’s going on! Your prophets, Israel, are like jackals scavenging through the ruins. They haven’t lifted a finger to repair the defenses of the city and have risked nothing to help Israel stand on God’s Day of Judgment. All they do is fantasize comforting illusions and preach lying sermons. They say ‘God says . . .’ when God hasn’t so much as breathed in their direction. And yet they stand around thinking that something they said is going to happen.“   
Haven’t you fantasized sheer nonsense? Aren’t your sermons tissues of lies, saying ‘God says . . .’ when I’ve done nothing of the kind? Therefore—and this is the Message of God, the Master, remember—I’m dead set against prophets who substitute illusions for visions and use sermons to tell lies. I’m going to ban them from the council of my people, remove them from membership in Israel, and outlaw them from the land of Israel. Then you’ll realize that I am God, the Master.
“The fact is that they’ve lied to my people. They’ve said, ‘No problem; everything’s just fine,’ when things are not at all fine. When people build a wall, they’re right behind them slapping on whitewash. Tell those who are slapping on the whitewash, ‘When a torrent of rain comes and the hailstones crash down and the hurricane sweeps in and the wall collapses, what’s the good of the whitewash that you slapped on so liberally, making it look so good?’
We heard Prov 3:5,6 repetitively as JWs, but I don’t recall verse 7 accompanying it:
Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
    and do not rely on your own insight.
6 In all your ways acknowledge him,
    and he will make straight your paths.
Do not be wise in your own eyes;
    fear the Lord, and turn away from evil.
If the database is a straight path imparting God’s wisdom, all JWs should have full access to it.  Yet, it is concealed for the obvious folly – stumbling blocks - that it holds. New JWs cannot be stumbled so quickly via the surface streets available to find “knowledge”!  Proverbs chapter 4 explains that as individuals, we are to seek the wisdom of God, and it is obtainable.  Over more than a century, the collective human organization still has not found the wisdom of God, and they never will. (Col 2:8;1 Tim 4:1;Rev 16:13-16)  Wisdom comes from obedience to God’s laws in Jesus Christ…to his word. (Prov 7:1;Jer 35:13;John 14:23; James 1:22)  They have broken these laws by teaching doctrine of men, and by many other atrocities they have committed. (Matt 15:9; 2 Cor 11:4; Gal 1:8,9)
Does their ability to conceal their secret library from the public as well as JWs, mean they believe they can hide their rotten fruit from Jesus Christ as well?  (Matt 7:7-29; John 15:1-11,16)
Mark well that God doesn’t miss a move you make;
    he’s aware of every step you take.
The shadow of your sin will overtake you;
    you’ll find yourself stumbling all over yourself in the dark.
Death is the reward of an undisciplined life;
    your foolish decisions trap you in a dead end.    Prov 5:21-23
 
Victory of Christ
 
 

"In the very first issue of the watchtower magazine there was an article written by Russell under the initials CTR where and he stated with perfect logic and reasoning that if Satan himself tells you the truth, it’s still the truth."
"As usual, Dimitar, your understanding is agenda driven, and demonstratively faulty.
Charles Taze Russel was not speaking favorably about Satan …. He was speaking favorably about TRUTH."
@Pudgy As usual, This character plays with words, or he doesn't understand what he just wrote. 
Pastor Russell's' understanding of Satan was not as you indicate, "if Satan himself tells you the truth, it's still the truth." Your words, not pastor Russell's understanding of Satan as indicated by the majority of his literature.  Therefore, don't hide the fact you are a woeful, foolish liar. I guess being obtuse is a daily habit for you, just like the rest of the former Jehovah's Witnesses here.

Oooh! Ooooh! Oooh! 
( … sits on haunches and waves front paw for attention!) I have one simple question for Dmitar.
Of the several hundred, perhaps thousands of questions Dmitar has asked, most calling for Essay length responses, how many have actually been answered?
I don’t recall any.
Unless he pays ten cents a word for reply’s, with a $5,000 advance retainer, I suspect this trend is what I shall label “Dmitar Normal”.
Canines, as some may know, are a big fan of nuanced satire.
 

Things are so absolutely nutty nowadays, that I’m beginning to wonder if Gog of Magog it’s not a specific personality, and the name Joe Biden comes immediately to mind.
I wish I knew.

As usual, Dimitar, your understanding is agenda driven, and demonstratively faulty.
Charles Taze Russel was not speaking favorably about Satan …. He was speaking favorably about TRUTH.
Scanned copies of the first issue of the Watchtower are almost instantly available on the Internet. If memory serves, the article title is “What Is Truth?”.
As usual, you gave your disassociative diatribe BEFORE you read the article, and as usual were wrong and blusterous.
You could at least TRY to be funny. Occasionally that in itself is  inadvertently funny.
If sad and pathetic is what you were looking for ….. you NAILED it!
 

JW elders have access via their password to log in to an electronic database that is not available to other JW members. How big the database is and what it contains depends on how much permission their status gives them, which they received from Bethel or WTJWorg. Can each elder access the same database as high-ranking Bethelite? Probably not. But let those who know say.
Although it is not surprising that not every JW member can access the entire database of the organization to which he belongs (because this is the case in all other normal "secular" organizations/institutions, so WTJWorg is no different in this regard, because it is ultimately "human organization"), remains a worrying realization that the history of "God's earthly organization" contains doctrines and practices that cannot be attributed to a  "God's guidance" and "true truth" that clearly separates the right from the wrong.

"Get the facts"...I am confident with the facts I received through the video, and I can wait for further validation.  Be patient, it will come.
"...does not mean everything should be accepted as truth without legitimately looking into it"
That's good advice, that you didn't follow as you looked into my supposed association with a pedophile  that you debated with.  Did you accept the facts, yet?  I don't think so. SM, you have as your identity a storm trooper.  Did you ever think that alone could stumble someone if they looked up the "facts" about the meaning behind "storm troop"?  It's very possible, isn't it. They may ask, what are you hiding behind the mask?   1 Cor 4:5  
 
 
 
 
 
 

https://twitter.com/i/status/1492048509507354626
 

"riddled with opinions", said by a man who was never a JW, unlike the narrator of this video who happens to also be a past member of Bethel as well.  His first-hand exposure to the facts, is eye-opening.  
We are each allowed our opinions, but this video can be understood by any exjw, as evidence of hypocrisy by an organization that has kept its complete data base out of sight and access, from the general JW population.  This enables the organization to safely rewrite their history, which they have accomplished.  JWs are discouraged from seeking non JW material, but on the deeper layer of the online library, there is a list of "Non JW" material for the "elite" class to reference.  Does this mean that those individuals with access, are better in some way than the general JW?  No, It only feeds into their power over the lower class of JWs.  
Isa 29:15 - Woe to those who go to great depths to hide their plans from the LORD, who do their work in darkness and think, “Who sees us? Who will know?”
Being a JW, was like swimming in murky water, never clear of truth. (Ezek 34:18 ) These leaders have chosen to build their own cistern, not holding the living water of God and Jesus Christ, but based on the doctrine of men. (John 7:37,38; Eph 4:14; 1 Tim 1:3,4; 2 Tim 4:3,4; Mark 7:7) Their teachings, their "water", is not only poison, but cannot be held in a cracked cistern for very long, and the video has assisted in exposing  just one of its many cracks.  (Heb 12:15; Rev 8:10,11; Jer 2:12,13; 9:3-6,15)
The "secret" online library is nothing but the doctrine of men - of false teachers/false prophets, who have deceived the "elect".  (Matt 24:24,25)
 
Mark of Slavery
 
 

You probably won’t turn into a pillar of salt, just as you won’t die in Armageddon if you disobey GB. 

I wonder if @Pudgy would submit the very first article from Pastor Russell that indicates if Satan tells the truth, it's still the truth.
It seems Pastor Russell's take of Satan is of conning and a liar, which most of the Bible Students publications indicate. Therefore, Satan manipulation of a weak mind can be successful by pretending to speak truth for the wrong reason.
That in itself can be found here.
A147] [Plain]
Among the greatest of the blinding influences which Satan has devised to keep men in ignorance of the truth regarding the judgment day have been the errors which have crept into the creeds and hymn books of the various religious sects....
A250] [Plain]
Satan has continually taken advantage of man's weaknesses, made good to appear evil, and evil to appear good; and he has misrepresented God's character and plans and blinded men to the truth. …
[R1410:page180]  [Plain]
Satan achieves no greater triumph than when he seduces a soul which was once enlightened and sanctified by the truth; and the influence of such a one for evil is more than doubled...
I don't see any positive attributes to Pastor Russell's words in favor of Satan. Funny how @JW Insider doesn't quickly "demand" a clarification on this matter like he does with me. But then again, I'm not part of the Jehovah's Witnesses and former Jehovah's Witnesses, the in crowd here.

Since I'm speaking about Satan, then yes, anything is possible. Satan pretended to be an angel of light. 2 Corinthians 11:14. This is why the admonition of Galatians 1:8 was given. Keep an eye on those that willfully teach a gospel contrary to that of Christ. 
However, in your view, that would fit everyone, including God and Christ.
What point of reference are you referring to? After Christ was created, the angels came second. When they were created, they had the ability to know from good and evil. That's the indicator in Genesis 3:22. They also knew, their life cycle was everlasting, not immortal as Jesus became to be.
Here human nature doesn't distinguish between the two, since by definition, it can mean the same thing. However, God and now Christ do.
The angels understood, back then, they also had a choice. Satan chose to be an angel of darkness, and other angels followed. Satan wanted exclusive devotion from God's creation. A "right" only God has. Now people might think, well, God destroyed angels in the flood. No he didn't. He destroyed a product of the angel's lust for creation. The nephilim. Judgment upon the angelic realm will come next. 
Just like the evil pre-flood, Satan understands his fate. The thing to understand is simple. Perfection is a blameless state. That's what made Jesus sinless. He maintained a sinless state by being blameless by his loyalty to God. He refused the temptation of what was evil. We as imperfect beings don't have that luxury of perfection. However, we all can remain blameless by also following in the footsteps of Christ. That's what made him a perfect example.
Now, you can argue, then we should be sinless also. No!, that condition was not exempt by Christ sacrifice. We are still under that conviction. Jesus sacrifice was to establish that means for humanity as a reward for their loyal service to God. Just like Noah in the pre-flood era. God made Noah the reward for humanities existence to continue.
Actually, that assumption was already in place. Now you can argue, was Satan jealous of Christ for being God's firstborn? The way he handled God's creation of man, I believe he was. The process of humanity is not just to answer why God deserves exclusive devotion from his creation, but to also answer the need for the angelic realm to understand, why Satan a creation of God decided to turn away from his creator for his own interest. That question has yet to be answered, and little by little it is by humanities actions. 
That's why the only Kingdom that can govern man properly is the kingdom of heaven. After all this time, God still believes in righteousness, and is looking forward to many survivors. He'd rather see almost 9 billion people, but we all have a choice to make.
While Pilate might have asked a good question, the answer is in the heart. We just need to look deep into our inner self.
Yes, I do accept Christ truth, and as my lord and savior, I acknowledge my creator and love him for being my one and only true God.
Enjoy your day @Srecko Sostar!

Can you explain, why you would promote a right-wing conspiracy theorist Podcaster? Also, can you explain how this impact is any different from that of the flu shot? If you cannot control your anger, then, please don't respond.

In the very first issue of the watchtower magazine there was an article written by Russell under the initials CTR where and he stated with perfect logic and reasoning that if Satan himself tells you the truth, it’s still the truth.
I suppose it’s like the Nazis used to torture people for medical experiments and produced an ethical problem because some of this research that they did turned out to produce extremely valuable medical information.
do you not use it to save lives, because of its source?
The development of the atomic bomb and the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki killed perhaps a half-million people, men, women, children, and animals but the knowledge received from learning to work with radiation even though gained with the spending of the souls of these people has resulted in medical practices that in the last 70 years has saved hundreds of times of more people than were killed in war. …. . On all sides, by everyone involved.
Using the combat experience gained in the battles on Okinawa and other Pacific islands it was estimated that the invasion of Japan to destroy their war capability would’ve cost 1 million Allied lives, and 4 million Japanese lives just in the military.
The military made enough purple hearts to cover these expected combat casualties and they were not used, and these medals which celebrate that the enemy can’t shoot very well are still being used today for combat casualties, those that are wounded.
So the fact that someone gets the truth from an apostate site, that is impossible to get from jw.org it’s not a bad thing…… It’s the only thing there is.
Or, you could wallow in ignorance and base your life on prepared Pablum, and have it spoonfed to you like any baby.
I see the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society as God’s people, in spite of themselves.
Because all organized religion is a snare and a racket when they start accumulating real estate it appears there are no exceptions.
But because the Ark of Jehovah’s Witnesses is riddled with holes does not mean it’s better outside where the sharks swim.
It does provide some protection that you cannot get elsewhere, all things considered.

Tell that to the CSA victims and those d/fed just because the Elders didn't like them. 
But then you think that war is ok in God's eyes, and that boasting about having a houseful of guns is good. Remember James, we know who you are and your past remarks. 
So, you serve this idol and it's 8 Leaders. And you believe that God and Christ approve of them telling lies and treading on the True Anointed ones.  You believe that God and Christ approve of false teachings do you ? 
So tell me, why would God and Christ want people to be stumbled by these wicked men ? 
Why, in these last days, when faith is so important, would God and Christ want the truth deliberately hidden ?
You seem to believe that GB when they call themselves the Faithful and Discreet slave. Well you must believe them if you write that the W/t are 'God's people'. 
But then you also love guns and you believe that war is ok with God. I don't think I will rely on your judgement any time soon. 
Remember James, those sharks you mention, there are just as many of them inside that fake Ark as there are outside. 

THIS IS SO FUNNY when considering the actions of many Elders who act on instruction from the GB. 
The CSA cases that prove how the Elders hid Pedophiles in the congregations. And how those Elders threatened to d/fed anyone that made known the disgusting things of the ORG. 

Think back a while. The discussion between James (who seems to be Pudgy ) and Billy the Kid.
They were both boasting about their hoard of weapons that they owned. James even mentioned at one point that he would use a weapon to defend his family. James also seems to believe that war is ok in God's eyes. 
It is possible that many American JWs have guns in their household as it is legal in the USA. 
As for proof of what I've written, I know that you are much better at finding these things for reference.