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Dmitar reacted to Space Merchant in Jehovah's Witnesses money
On the contrary, you did shift, look at the pervious page (2 specifcally), you brought the claim, I asked yuo to prove it.
No mistake in regards to my culture was ever made, even prior to you mentioning said notation. Even several years back, I uphold what I was molded by in conjunction with Scripture.
This has nothing to do with a Bible question, granted to what was being asked of you.
You made it an issue when you challneged my culture, something Srecko and Witness destoryed themsevles in doing. Therefore, it isn't a problem when you are asked to prove your claim. If you bring something up at least attest to it, do not run from it.
I don't dwell on politics - I am of no paradigm, Truthers are not leaning Left, or Right, even center. This should be evident if you are aware of what I profess on here for I am against the agendea of the paradigm.
I don't invovle myself with politics, however, if there is a lion in the midst of the people, I do everything and anything to profess to others of said lion so they themsevles do not get devoured. Therefore, I am vigilant of my opponent, my opressors, and evidently those higher up among the beast and Babylon. The Bible makes example of that, as is examples in the Book of Proverbs - to this should be known to you. More so, you did make comment when I mentioned one of my rivals.
On the contrary, I am aware of what JWI says about various things even China. Actucally no, if you paid attention to the events of China for the past several years, it is kind of absurd to linked a JW to the CCP, the CCP supresses people of faith. It wouldn't make sense for JWI to be aligned with China either because of what has and is taking place with Christians, as is Muslims, in that country, likewise with the situation concerning the Endemic, and the Illegal Black Markets, as is with the situation of Transhumanism and Project Ambrosia who are interconnected, the list goes on. Unless, you are trying to paint JWI as an advocate of said things, however, that remains to be seen.
That being said, you utter Christain entics yet discerment and to test the spirit is nowhere to be found on your part, in this thread alone, paints evidence to that, even going as far as to brush over several Bibical verses of which I alluded to without uttering a citation; ironically, you didn't notice that.
Cowardice. If you claim something prove it.
What I see as foolishness is a man who says something, but is too afraid to speak said claim because others can see falsehood. As for your remark, this is true, never seen JWI challnege anyone in the realm of culture let alone attest to 1 John 4:1 - unless you want to show evidence to that claim, I challnege you to this too, granted your claim is unfounded. In regards to that, JWI was not aware the person in question was a Statist, a Statist is a contributor to the Left vs Right Paradigm, such ones will prove to be problematic later down the road when anything of the Bible will conflict with their new world based view for the next generation.
What I find interesting is you are among the type of Christains who dwell on assumptions, that is unenthical for a Christian.
Then let's see you name one form of misinformation with any prove of a citation.
For I attest to the following:
Last I checked, JWI and the JWs here do not harbor guns in bunkers to attack everyone in the End Times. If you can prove a moblization of attacks, then be my guess - Witness and RT News failed here, let's see what you can do.
The JWs do not own any resources associated with military grade missiles and weapons of war. The very reason I brought up Mr. Zelda in the first place. Is he right, or is the former JW who knows Encomics in the right? The thread was given to you already.
They are not New Agers, nor Prosperity Preachers, etc. Something of which Disgruntled ones often proclaim, even Witness herself. Unless you have evidence, be my guest, I like to see what evidence you have of them associated with PEAK, Kairos, etc.
JWs are not immune to brazen conduct and or the imperfections of this world, granted all flesh can fall to sin at any given time, some with ill intent, despite how some EXJWs who are disgruntled claim otherwise for shock value. For JWs themsevles have their own members who sccumb to such imprefections as is the spirit of this world for those who are not capable of dealing with it. Unless you have something else, I wait.
The list goes on.
That being said, it has nothing to do with respect, respect is given to God and his Word, facts and evidence is evrything. Therefore, if a claim is made, the only way it is to be true is by means of the facts itself. To make a claim with no evidence shows deceit and lying, therefore, falsehood. You being afriad to assert your own claims attest to the narrative, therefore, you use the term Christian entics, but cannot back it up with evidence, whatsoever.
Can you show me or anyone here as to where I proclaim to hate respect as is to promote disrepect; mainly outside of a debate disccusion? If anything, it is known I have a disdain for a number of this, primarily falsehood, Paradigms, and the Triune.
Carribean folks have respect, and display said respect which corrlates with the fruit of the spirit, but when they see falsehood, they will say something or do something. Likewise if any of them are faithful men and women of God, they will speak the truth, bring up the facts, etc.
The difference between you and I is that I respect Scripture, I do not cherry pick and use something random, I do this 24/7, therefore I adhere to discerment, as did our early Christian brothers and sisters. You seem to apply entics whenever you feel like it, and you most likely lack expirence in the real world when confronting people about the coming of the Christ.
I myself do not hate discerment, or testing the spirit.
Anti-Agenda folks are not comformist. If I was a comformist, I would comply with an agenda of some form, even my own culture and views would be forfeited to the paradigm, more so, I would not be a Truther, therefore, being Anti-Agenda, as is dealing with grave issues such as missing/abused persons, would never be professed by me. My last remark about Facebook, would be in support to Big Tech, not against it, likewise with the MSM, espcially CNN.
If you missed it, I often speak of the different between Freedom vs. Compliance, even if the situation calls a situation where you can lose your life.
That being said, you made claim, proven to be false. Truthers are not comformist, due to that, this is why we are enemy # 1 to the MSM, and as of recent, The PM of Canada, the list goes on.
Ironic, when you challnege a non-JW, you cannot prove any of your claims to be true, let alone Truthers.
Moreover, you say you are not a comformist, but one only needs to look at your past tenure, perhaps they might find something. All I need to do is ask you one question, which can easily determine the conclusion, as I did with some already.
An appeal to motive. Just so you know, childish remarks does not work on me, people tried, Srecko, Butler, Witness, Cos, Shwi. Some even tried to make racical remarks, others in my debating expirence threaten to kill me, but has no effect. Nice try though.
I assume you are a grown man, why enterian the idea of childish remarks? Absurd.
Anyways, no one defends me, I am of myself and myself alone, I fight my own fights, that is how us CSE folk operate. If you cannot show an example of said claim, then you my friend, just professed a falsehood.
That being said, ironic, you say this, yet you are the one to tage JWI several time, unless, you want him to come and save you from your own claims so you can deviate again.
Although Srecko and Witness are wrong most of the time, he did make remarks of err on their part in the past. Like I said, if you are indeed the entity that some people speak of, you are in your baby boy form, unable to witness your own past remarks vs those who can look for them at will.
That being said, you made several claims I will do you the favor of listing them - stop running from your own words:
Where is your evidence of narrcisim whereas the latter's culture is struictly against it?
Name one peice of misinformation profess, of which you made the claim.
Can you cite one of my comments as to where I specifcally promoted hatred against respect?
How is discerment/testing the sprirt show a lack of Bible understanding as is in useage of I use it literally all the time?
Where is your evidence of one being a Conformist when the latter speaks highly of anti-goverment and agenda, as is the difference between freedom vs compliance?
Out of all my response, to which you didn't relaze the multiple times I alluded to Scriptutre; how did you deem this as lack of Christian entics?
If you cannot attest to your own claims, it seems your Christian entics was null here, and you tried to bluff your way out with claims and appeals to motive, namely, in a childish manner, coming from an adult, which is very sad, so to speak. So much for entics (the appeal to motive killed it for you...)
That said, if you cannot give any shred of evidence in that regard, even though you were challneged to it in page 2 already in which you deviated from, then you professed falsehood, effevtively, leaning you towards being a bad actor yourself.
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Dmitar reacted to Space Merchant in Jehovah's Witnesses money
He seems to be drawing others in to not answer to his claims. He does not realize how CSE folks operate. Granted JWs are known for knocking on doors, in this sense, regardless of his faith, he knocked on the wrong door, and evidently will end up like the Pearl Doxsey followers prior to the Washington events concerning the Mandates.
That being said, in my eyes, I don't care if he is banned or not, he seems to be venting fustration here I guess, often times you have these types on various forums.
He seems to think of it otherwise. Often times in forums when someone gets banned to many times, even in the realm of online video games, this angers the person (at rare times some reform), they come back more fratured and unstable then last time. So in this case, it seems this forum has created this Allen Entity to come back fratured each time. The only difference between this one and the early Allen was Allen was legtimately unbroken vs current Allen.
This incarnation of Allen is essentially The Joker to your Batman. He seems to connect you to his newfound existence, even learning to make claims to unsuspecting folks, but not so much against those who are knowing.
He is lucky this isn't CSE, for how bans work there, you cannot create another account due to the website recognizing a former user's attempt, elsewhere, you can't have more than one account, often times you slide with two.
That being said, I wouldn't say that, I was able to trace back my own comments in reponse to a person from the UK we are all familier with to use as examples, or caitations. But what is true, for those banned, it may not be easy for them to find reponses from an account that has fallen into oblivion.
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Dmitar reacted to TrueTomHarley in Jehovah's Witnesses money
FIVE tags of JWI in the same post!!!
And the fellow wonders why he gets banned.
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Dmitar reacted to Space Merchant in Out of curiosity, if you have enemies who hate you, why do some pretend to be among your fold to cause trouble for unsuspecting passerbys?
Newbies don't use a Lure to Bait and Switch Tactic, especially in a religious space. That, in of itself, is highly uncanny.
And how is this relevant to the following?
[A] Pearl Doxsey sources via a reddit user [B] Sympathy towards Same-Sex Marriage as if God would be Ok with it. [C] A Political Opinion that derives into a stance in which Conservative Americans took issue with it (mind you, this was during the time people, myself included were heading to Washington, some for the event). [D] Ignorance as to why some Bible verses are omitted vs what is actually inspired text. To be honest, I didn't plan to debate, for them, they assume me to be among the others there, not expecting a thing until they brought sources, which sparked the 15 min debate.
That being said, the only reason mentioned as to why Conservatives went after them because of the politics. As you may know already, as stated here since years ago, America, as is some parts of the world will succumb to a division, it will become large and uncontrollable and will be a problem during a crisis. - As predicted.
Look where we are now, and as you can see, those in the paradigm do not like each other very much.
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Dmitar reacted to Witness in Adam and Eve, what they didn't know...
Jesus, is the tree of life. If Satan had his "eyes" on it, it was to bring about his enemy's destruction. (Gen 3:15) The anointed, are also referred to as "trees". (Matt 7:17,20; John 6:57,58,63;17:2;6:44,45; Rev 2:7; Ps 1:3; Rev 22:2,14) https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt+7%3A17%2C20%3B+John+6%3A57%2C58%2C63%3B17%3A2%3B6%3A44%2C45%3B+Rev+2%3A7%3B+Ps+1%3A3%3B+Rev+22%3A2%2C14&version=NIV
The choice was given to Adam and Eve which "tree" to eat from, with the consequences for choosing the lies of Satan, instead of the "tree" of truth in the Word of God. John 1:1 We also have that choice. 2 Thess 2:9,10
Two Trees - Past and Present
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Dmitar reacted to Arauna in Adam and Eve, what they didn't know...
We all sin - some sin to the extent where it is human error and others to the extent where they become apostates. Some do not agree and some become direct opposers. Some criticize and others appoint themselves as self-righteous judges...... and what does the bible show when you judge? You have put yourself in the place of GOD!
Read what James has to say about this.
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Dmitar reacted to Arauna in Adam and Eve, what they didn't know...
Adam and Eve knew what was right and wrong BEFORE they ate of the tree of good and bad
Unfortunately many JWs are not aware of this - not taught well. We have free choice as a gift from jehovah..... We can can choose to do so many things as long as it remains within the "right and wrong" boundaries of Jehovah..... that is: in every situation one has choice to do the morally correct action in line with your conscience, holy spirit and the principles of from jehovah. Adam and eve had the inclination to do what is right..... until they seared their conscience
How do we know Adam and eve understood right from wrong? Morality? Jesus was a perfect human on earth. He was surrounded by thieves, revilers, prostitutes and even satan who tempted him...... but he was not tempted to do wrong but in each situation CHOSE to do the right action. He never seared his conscience, did not speak from his own origin and did not violate the law - not because he was programmed to do what is right but because he exercised FREE WILL and CHOICE. Could he have sinned? Yes..... but he exercised his choices in the most difficult of situations - setting a wonderful example for us.
So what does it mean that "adam became like us " knowing good and bad........ it means that they have made themselves like God to choose their own morality - they rejected the good and bad limits jehovah had set on them. From this point forward mankind was doomed because they would now rule themselves and create religions and philosophies to manage societies. All would fail to bring true peace, security and happiness.
Soon the outcome of Adam's wilful choice of independence will reach the final conclusion: We have freedom in everything but jehovah created us to be part of him.... to do this we must remain within the moral boundaries he set for us, stay close to Him in his love and remain Holy. But we will do this by free will because we realize that to choose to be separate from him will distort us. We are free and yet bound to Him in a loving way.
Jehovah is not a dictator. He wants us to realize that we should choose by free will to willingly choose his moral values because it is the only beneficial thing for mankind. Only if all people willingly show self-sacrificing love like Jesus can we bring happiness and harmony to earth. Self-sacrifice means that we will not use our free will to be selfish, choose out own way or ne hurtful to others in any way....
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Dmitar reacted to Pudgy in Jehovah's Witnesses money
I will have to apologize for thinking of you as a mean, vindictive, miserable, unhappy and all around nasty person with delusions of grandeur.
After that nice compliment (after all, I AM a cartoon puppy and have openly acknowledged that what I do is rant …), and what I am LOOKING FOR is to be a puppy loving court jester, I have a warm fuzzy feeling about you that borderlines true affection.
Even my close relative Snoopy, from “Peanuts” does his best to happy dance across a field of sunflowers!
Some cartoon characters age, and some do not. I think Mickey Mouse is somewhere around 75 years old, and he looks as young as he did in “Steamboat Willie”.
Have you ever noticed that no matter which way his head is turned, his two circular ears always face the camera?
….and Mickey’s dog is Pluto, which runs around on four legs, and Mickey has a friend taller than he is, who is also a dog, who walks around on TWO legs. I think that’s just Goofy!
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Dmitar reacted to Pudgy in The Most Important News About Covid-19 !!!
Of course not!
It would be the ramblings of a Heretic against the Church of the Three Holy Vaccines.
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Dmitar reacted to Witness in CSA COURT CASE INVOLVING BETHEL, GOVERNING BODY INDICTED
Whether there is one or eight of them, they are all false prophets. Each of them has told lies.
(a lie is a doctrine that didn't come true, a prediction that failed, a teaching that never comes to fruition, a teaching that has twisted Christ's words to fit the doctrine of men... for those who struggle with distinguising a lie from truth)
They have even contradicted each other with their teachings just lately. Each one of their predecessors has told lies. That is the side you’ve chosen, the side of lies. (Joel 3:14; Rev 16:13-16) They refuse to recognize the “Elijah” to come, avoiding Matt 17:11 like the plague. And since they no longer designate JWs as a “class” (Jonadab,Ezekiel…), they cannot claim to be the messenger of Mal 3:1. They teach that the meaning of the scrolls in Revelation are not to be revealed until Armageddon is finished; in other words, these demonically inspired men, would never be gifted with reading the scrolls. (Isa 29:9-16) This is why Elijah comes, given the understanding of Revelation, which is imperative for God’s holy priesthood to listen to. (Rev 10:11; 18:4-8 )This messenger reveals the identity of the man of lawlessness who tramples the Temple of God, and why it needs to be restored. (Mal 4:5,6; Rev 11:1-3; 13:5-7,18;2 Thess 2:3,4)
It is not unlike the Father to choose one person to deliver His message to His people, is it, and usually that prophet chosen and his message is rejected by the majority. Do you believe that Wt’s sins are out of reach of even God? Has He changed to the point where He will let your unrepentant leaders slide by and be with His Son in the Kingdom, while His own “house” made of “living stones” lies in ruins? (Dan 8:10,13; 9:27; 11:31,36; Matt 24:15,16; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22) What is the latest about God’s Temple priesthood? Are they now ALLOWED to meet together and study the Bible? Is there new light on that? No. That “coalition” of anointed ones would be a threat to the eight men who rule over you, since their Head would certainly be Jesus Christ, and not the eight liars. Recently, did you notice how S. Herd said that Christ is the head of your organization, in a tone that dropped several octaves, to the point where it was barely audible? It seems pretty obvious that he doesn’t believe it himself.
I read this quote earlier today that applies to the eight:
“We know they are lying, they also know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we also know they know we know, and yet they continue to lie”. (Solzhenitsyn)
False prophets don’t wear a label that says, “I am a false prophet”. This is why Jesus said to test their teachings. He gave us instructions to do so, it’s up to each JW to put it into practice. (Matt 7:15-20; John 15:1-8,16) And he specifically said that the "elect" would be deceived by them in the last days. (Matt 24:24,25) The eight know who Pearl is and what she teaches…about them. Interestingly, they have used phrases from her articles and teach them to you. How dare they, right? Why would they use the teachings of not only a woman, but of a "despicable apostate"?
The question to ask is what God do you worship anyway? The exacting God who demands exclusive devotion? Sadly, I don’t think so, Tom. (Mark 12:30) It appears to be the Watchtower organization which allows its leaders to do exactly what they want. (Dan 11:38; Rom 1:25; Rev 13:4)
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Dmitar reacted to Pudgy in Time to ban dimtar.
Hard hitting messages of doom historically have been Great for recruiting …. But after years and years of false alarms, it has become blase’, and besides Bitcoin, it’s getting more and more difficult ……..
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Dmitar reacted to Pudgy in Is Gerard Gertoux with his 3170bc Flood still in good-standing with Watchtower; and what are the years on publishing, /baptism, /publishing, /DF, /publishing
I have seriously considered your entire posting above and have calculated it would take 14 pages to fully address everything you mentioned, and my current rate is $.20 per word, with a $5,000 retainer.
Barring that, even if you have a PayPal account to transfer funds, I will address one point did you make for free.
One elderette Sister said in 1971 what do you want a Yogi Bear button.”. I assume that was a question although you did not have a question mark.
OF COURSE! ANY SANE PERSON WANTS A YOGI BEAR BUTTON!
As an aside, I was in Hollywood, California in 1971 and met that Sister, who lived up in a Hill House on Pacific View Trail, overlooking Hollywood, Los Angeles, and the Pacific Ocean. She had many buttons from Jellystone Park …. Yogi Bear, BooBoo, Doggy Daddy, and others. She would wear them when tap dancing with her Walker with the rubber stoppers removed.
Alas, when I was offered one, I politely refused, as I was not wearing a collar at the time.
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Dmitar reacted to Pudgy in Jehovah's Witnesses money
I always thought of Dmitar as a goateed, pointed ears evil inter-dimensional twin of SpongeBob SquarePants, in a red Star Fleet Security uniform.
Usually, not making it to the first commercial …..
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Dmitar reacted to Pudgy in Out of curiosity, if you have enemies who hate you, why do some pretend to be among your fold to cause trouble for unsuspecting passerbys?
Many people are deeply religious because they need divine support for their already deeply held screwball ideas.
This worked better in previous years when you could threaten people with hell, and they did not know much about volcanoes.
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Dmitar reacted to Space Merchant in Jehovah's Witnesses money
@Kosonen is one. Like Witness, he claims to be chosen, but he is quite neutral even though he has some disagreements. Reasonable even as is concerning, as is a grounded person who even if speaking JWs or the non religious, he does not jump like a crazed animal. He to a degree, does not see Witness as a fellow chosen one of Christ, even feels discouraged by her in some instances. If he does not see what Witness sees, somehow he is a threat, which makes no sense. People can agree/disagree on things, but wise persons do not go on a warpath like your friend you are Yes Manning too. Both Kosonen and I were also correct on specific events years prior to them taking place, for he is familiar with the Truther community, however, some of his sources had since been wiped, for we were correct on the censorship issue along with the riots, transpiring to the events of January 6th of which the media claims to be an Insurrection.
@Dmitar He is misguided, that is all, as is with adopting ill influence. He does not have to 100% agree with JWs, but he adopted some narratives from disgruntled folks. However, time is short. What was said 2018 and onward, is reaching a tipping point. It would not be a surprise either, granted of how some view the Bible nowadays.
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Dmitar reacted to Witness in CSA COURT CASE INVOLVING BETHEL, GOVERNING BODY INDICTED
WHAT IS DoC? Is that an individual you are saying is me? I'm sorry, but again you are telling a self-assuming lie.
Savvy? I just looked up the updated membership of exjw reddit - 71,000. If you don’t believe that among that many individuals, that there are no valid concerns regarding the organization for me to share, then you are truly a pompous, self-righteous man.
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Dmitar reacted to Thinking in The Most Important News About Covid-19 !!!
What a joke…listen…I’ve butted heads with JWI a few times but ..I have never seen him express anger…in Fact i would say as much as I’ve disagreed with him at times..his fruitages are finer than mine or yours …
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Dmitar reacted to Space Merchant in FALSE CLAIMS
Didn't we go over this back in 2020 and 2021? I think there was discussion from back in 2018 also. Better to rely on factual information then a reddit thread, don't you think, DoC?
Anyways, instead of reddit or Blue Check Mark Twitter, use this instead - https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/17099295/caekaert-v-watchtower-bible-and-tract-society-of-new-york-inc/
That being said, speaking of false claims, to this day I haven't see any information on JW churches, Kingdom Halls, having assault rifles and other firearms hidden in and or beneath their place of worship which are fronts for alleged bunkers. You and Fearon got a lot of explaining to do. True or false - DoC?
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Dmitar reacted to Space Merchant in Time to ban dimtar.
I don't think you have ever made any and or started a logical discussion, ever. This can be seen from your history alone. I am not aware of who @Dmitar is, but if he really errs you this much, this exposed how frivolous you can be.
That being said, a man of God you speak time and time again to be, yet....
Christians need be careful of slang and vulgar speech, yet here we see, even the Holy Good Book you ignore on this matter, learn to apply Scripture the next time, and think prior a response. Cherry picking isn't the Scripture way, for whatever The Durbin guy is teaching you, shift away.
Ecclesiastes 10:12 - The words of a wise man's mouth are gracious, but the lips of a fool consume him. Colossians 3:8 - But now you must put aside all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your mouth. Colossians 4:6 - Let your speech always be gracious, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone. Ephesians 5:4 - Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk, or crude joking, which are out of character, but rather thanksgiving. Ephesians 4:29 - Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear. Matthew 15:11 - it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.” James 3:10 - From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so. -
Dmitar reacted to Space Merchant in CSA COURT CASE INVOLVING BETHEL, GOVERNING BODY INDICTED
You always use reddit in most cases, so you are savvy in that regard to where you draw some of your information. Both you and DoC have the same mannerism, and I only know of this because of an ExJW acting up in one of the states I went to during my absence on here.
Yet facts are everything, best to respect that regard.
Did you or did you not read the report fully, this is what you've been asked, and now a second time. Or as the actually question itself -
You already know how serious I am about CSA, so in respects to that, do not teeter that tower into something that is indeed serious.
You were the one to give us the link, so it should not be a difficult task to point out various information from the report
https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=T1yAHX0AO9YZ84Iphf0YpA%3D%3D&display=all&courtType=Kings+County+Supreme+Court&resultsPageNum=1