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    Dmitar reacted to Witness in CSA COURT CASE INVOLVING BETHEL, GOVERNING BODY INDICTED   
    Hello SM.  I am not internet savvy and have no idea what you mean by this.
    Just want to let you know that the most meaningful comment on this thread that one can learn from, is not yours.  
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    Dmitar reacted to Space Merchant in CSA COURT CASE INVOLVING BETHEL, GOVERNING BODY INDICTED   
    Out of curiosity, Witness, or should I say, DoC of reddit, did you fully read into the reports or did you let the video speak for you? You knowing this already, as someone who has dealt with people in the realm of CSA, even aiding in some efforts, surely important information you could have address instead of an opinion piece from a video who does not encourage to look into the reported details.
    That being said, as I alluded to in the past, one of your friends in the community was exposed by Truther's for defending a child groomer because she was "attractive" and once exposed, deleted himself. Let that sink in.
    Child Sex Abuse and or Violence against children is very serious, and not giving all facts and information can cause more unwanted damage that can effect and negativity influence people, even jumping to conclusions; as stated in the past, Weaponized any form of abuse, is very bad.
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    Dmitar reacted to Amidstheroses in CSA COURT CASE INVOLVING BETHEL, GOVERNING BODY INDICTED   
    Very serious and shocking subject and accusations. It took me some reading to learn that CSA stands for ‘Child Sexual Abuse’. As a victim of severe Domestic Violence for which my apostate husband was sentenced to six years in State Prison, I see patterns familiar to me in this tragic story.
    I preferred reading the 34 pages of charges presented to the Kings County Supreme Court over the verbal summary of the upset woman.
    This egregious series of sins has, understandably, caused long-lasting and severe damage to the ‘child’ now responding by means of the Court. I pray that the negligent and severely abusive adults involved get their legal and just reprisal. I am very interested in seeing how King Jesus, who holds the congregations in his hands and views them with eyes of fiery flames (Revelation 1:14-16), chooses to handle this.
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    Dmitar got a reaction from JW Insider in CSA COURT CASE INVOLVING BETHEL, GOVERNING BODY INDICTED   
    Indeed. Cyrus was fearful of the Judean God, just like Babylon. However, how do you believe this to be a point of order, since I’m referring to Christianity that didn't start until the time of Jesus. Are you suggesting, there was a religious sect called Christianity before Christ? Can you give me an example of Christianity before Christ? Judaism is excluded.
    Subjected freedom of religion is true. The Russian Government doesn't seem to have a problem with the Orthodox Christian sect, yet it holds the Watchtower as an extreme Christian group. Since you are into the Watchtower History, you should be aware of the challenges your former institution took up. 
    In the United States, numerous cases involving Jehovah's Witnesses are now landmark decisions of First Amendment law. In all, Jehovah's Witnesses brought 23 separate First Amendment actions before the U.S. Supreme Court between 1938 and 1946.
    First Amendment
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
    https://www.historynet.com/what-we-owe-jehovahs-witnesses.htm
    There are many position the Watchtower has taken in order to have their merits heard in courts of law. 
    In part, look at this comment.
    "I would argue that here precisely lie the core problems of religious liberty in the 20th and 21st centuries. The forms of sacralization are different, but the human individual is one, and inhabits different spheres at the same time. One may be a member of a particular “religion of God,” yet being subject to the “religion of the nation” as a citizen, and partaking of the “religion of the person” as a general cultural climate. This situation may be lived as not conflictual. One example is Alcide De Gasperi (1881–1954), who was Prime Minister of Italy between 1945 and 1953. He was such a pious Catholic that he is now being considered for beatification. At the same time, he certainly regarded himself as an Italian patriot, and was an enthusiastic apologist of the then newly proclaimed Universal Declaration of Human Rights (Romano 2008)."
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    Dmitar got a reaction from Thinking in CSA COURT CASE INVOLVING BETHEL, GOVERNING BODY INDICTED   
    Indeed. Cyrus was fearful of the Judean God, just like Babylon. However, how do you believe this to be a point of order, since I’m referring to Christianity that didn't start until the time of Jesus. Are you suggesting, there was a religious sect called Christianity before Christ? Can you give me an example of Christianity before Christ? Judaism is excluded.
    Subjected freedom of religion is true. The Russian Government doesn't seem to have a problem with the Orthodox Christian sect, yet it holds the Watchtower as an extreme Christian group. Since you are into the Watchtower History, you should be aware of the challenges your former institution took up. 
    In the United States, numerous cases involving Jehovah's Witnesses are now landmark decisions of First Amendment law. In all, Jehovah's Witnesses brought 23 separate First Amendment actions before the U.S. Supreme Court between 1938 and 1946.
    First Amendment
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
    https://www.historynet.com/what-we-owe-jehovahs-witnesses.htm
    There are many position the Watchtower has taken in order to have their merits heard in courts of law. 
    In part, look at this comment.
    "I would argue that here precisely lie the core problems of religious liberty in the 20th and 21st centuries. The forms of sacralization are different, but the human individual is one, and inhabits different spheres at the same time. One may be a member of a particular “religion of God,” yet being subject to the “religion of the nation” as a citizen, and partaking of the “religion of the person” as a general cultural climate. This situation may be lived as not conflictual. One example is Alcide De Gasperi (1881–1954), who was Prime Minister of Italy between 1945 and 1953. He was such a pious Catholic that he is now being considered for beatification. At the same time, he certainly regarded himself as an Italian patriot, and was an enthusiastic apologist of the then newly proclaimed Universal Declaration of Human Rights (Romano 2008)."
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    Dmitar reacted to Witness in CSA COURT CASE INVOLVING BETHEL, GOVERNING BODY INDICTED   
    In this video, part of the summons is read aloud, as is very graphic.  I'm also giving the link to the documents.
    https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=T1yAHX0AO9YZ84Iphf0YpA%3D%3D&display=all&courtType=Kings+County+Supreme+Court&resultsPageNum=1
     
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    Dmitar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Will Life Ever Return to Normal? How the Bible Can Help in a Post-Pandemic World   
    To the bible impaired. I have three questions.
    1. Does this mean, the first century churches were "bad" houses of worship?
    2. Did Jesus consider the Temple dangerous for children, even though he visited one at age 12? Luke 2:41-52
    3. Those that bring religion inside their home. Does that mean that house, has become a dangerous place for children?
    I'm interested in finding out, what kind of message you are conveying to install "fear" in the hearts of children?
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    Dmitar reacted to Witness in Physical attendance at meetings/assemblies and "Zoom" attendance   
    The GB are like kids in a candy shop.  They have a plethora of kingdom halls at their disposal. Sounds like they are in the process of trading up real-estate for Ramapo and their mega audio visual center.  
    Maybe you need to tell the GB.  As A. Morris just said in his latest video, "“Jehovah’s organization is on the move, and it will not be stopped by the pandemic, or anything else."  If what you say happens, Ramapo may become a money pit.  
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    Dmitar reacted to Srecko Sostar in Physical attendance at meetings/assemblies and "Zoom" attendance   
    KH are also sold in Croatia. For one KH in Zagreb, the price is 700,000 Euros (on sale from 2019).
    If your predictions are correct about money, then the decision to sell KH en masse is not helpful, because the state can “nationalize” buildings, but also money. Where is the money from the sale of KH? In banks or in WTJWorg safes? Or is it investing in other real estate and businesses?
    Some world events and processes affect all people, sometimes regardless of their ideological, religious or social and economic or any other status. So it seems to me that it may be an exaggeration to talk about JW as the only group of people who will suffer the most from adversity or be the only target by the secular world.
    People can meet in their apartments, houses or other public places to maintain social contacts in order to develop and maintain the social aspects of direct socializing.
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    Dmitar reacted to Witness in Will Life Ever Return to Normal? How the Bible Can Help in a Post-Pandemic World   
    Do you remember the organization's slogan for pioneers?  "The Best Life Ever".  Since covid, that "life" was interrupted, the freedom to preach house to house with coffee breaks in between, was stopped.  The same goes for construction on Ramapo. So, I am guessing that the "normal" that JWs would like to see return is their freedom to spread their news, and build Ramapo.    The interesting thing is, 1914 was to signify the "day of the Lord".  That "day" to come upon "Israel" according to scripture, would be the farthest thing from the "best life ever".  Amos 5:16-25; Luke 17:27-30
     
     
     
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    Dmitar reacted to Srecko Sostar in Will Life Ever Return to Normal? How the Bible Can Help in a Post-Pandemic World   
    Generations of JW members, both those who came “from the world” and those born because their parents are JW members, have brought themselves into a state of obedience to GB “prophets” even though “prophecies” (and doctrines) were false. According to the quoted biblical passage, it is obviously a great fear not to offend the “prophets” but also not to fall under the condemnation of the “false prophet” as this would mean excommunication from the JW community of believers and spiritual/physical "persecution".
    As for the title of the topic. “Normality” wasn’t even before the pandemic, so I don’t see why people would aspire to the old state. Obviously they are not aware that the "old normal" was not good, but they have become accustomed to such a state.
    After a while, this "new normal", no matter what it looks like, will become "normal" because people will have to adjust and accept what will be inevitable.
    The “old normal” has steered the world into decay, and the “new normal” will not deviate from the “old path that leads to ruin”.
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    Dmitar reacted to Witness in Will Life Ever Return to Normal? How the Bible Can Help in a Post-Pandemic World   
    Anyone can take comfort in the Bible's promises, but there is no comfort derived from the doctrine of men; and the two, the scriptures and men's fabricated stories, are not to be mixed.  (2 Cor 6:14; 2 Pet 2:1-19)  For those who sold their houses and prepared for Armageddon to arrive in 1975...did they take comfort in realizing they were told a lie?  What happened after that date, to the membership number?  It plunged by almost 51,000 members when 1977 arrived.  Why?   Because people realized they were duped by false prophets, and there is no "waiting on Jehovah" to fix it. (Matt 7:15)   We are independently responsible for turning away from falsehoods and the people who speak them. (1 John 4:1)
    You may say in your heart, “How shall we know the word which YHWH has not spoken?” 22 When a prophet speaks in YHWH's name, if the thing doesn’t follow, nor happen, that is the thing which YHWH has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You shall not be afraid of him.
    "But the prophet who speaks a word presumptuously in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.”  Deut 18:21,22,20
    Besides blaming the rank and file for following a failed promise spoken by false prophets, do you know what JW leaders say about their predictions that don't come true?
    The serpent (GB) said to the woman, "No, you will certainly not die!"  Gen 3:4
    "You are of your father, the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and doesn’t stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks on his own; for he is a liar, and the father of lies."  John 8:44
    "The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests rule by their own authority; and my people love to have it so. What will you do in the end of it?"  Jer 5:31
    When your predictions made in "in the name of God" that you promote to all who perhaps 'love to have it so'...your predictions that do not come true, what will you and those you have misled, do in the end of it? 
    Please think about the precarious tight rope that you are walking on, bold-faced in front of God and Jesus Christ.
     
     
     
     
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Will Life Ever Return to Normal? How the Bible Can Help in a Post-Pandemic World   
    Yes it's a wondeful Social Club. But so are many churches. But just like the Watchtower / JW Org, they all tell lies. 
    And they are all dangerous places to be. Child Sexual Abuse is in all these false religions including the JW Org. 
    This online stuff does have one good point. At least your perverts are not in the same room as the innocent young children, hopefuly. 
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    Dmitar reacted to Srecko Sostar in Jehovah's Witnesses money   
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    Dmitar reacted to Witness in "THIS LEGO MOVIE DESTROYED THE WATCHTOWER!"   
    This Lego Movie Destroyed the Watchtower!  
    "A US federal judge has ruled against Watch Tower Pennsylvania, denying their DMCA subpoena to identify the creator of the Jehovah's Witness parody videos known as "Dubtown.
    It's not a secret that during the last two years Watchtower obtained nearly 40 DMCA subpoenas requiring Google, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, SoundCloud, Scribd, Reddit and other ISPs to provide personal information of users that allegedly infringed the Society's copyright.
    Since subpoena proceeding is ex parte, almost all the requests were granted.
    But one of the affected users, Kevin McFee contacted, on advice of YouTube's legal team, the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), and the Foundation found a law firm ready to represent him pro bono, namely Garvey Schubert Barer.
    Motion to quash the subpoena was filed in SDNY. To defend itself against this apostate attack, Watchtower had to hire Cowan, Liebowitz & Latman, a top firm in the field of copyright law, one of the six best ones nationwide according to The Legal 500 and one of the seven best ones in NY - according to Chambers.
    Motion to quash the subpoena and Watchtower's response were filed in August 2018 but hearing/conference still wasn't scheduled.
    On the 18th of January 2022 a US federal judge has ruled against Watch Tower Pennsylvania, denying their DMCA subpoena to identify the creator of the Jehovah's Witness parody videos known as "Dubtown"
    This major victory over the Watchtower will hopefully stop them going after every ex jw channel trying to bully them out of existence and more importantly stopping them getting hold of the names and addresses of the creators of these videos.
    Of course you know what they do once they get hold of this information , they get in touch with their congregation and make their life hell which could lead to disfellowshiping and fall out with their jw families. The following is part of the ruling signed by Nelson S. Norman, United States District Judge...
    See - https://tevangelinos.wixsite.com/jwupdates/post/this-lego-movie-destroyed-the-watchtower
     
    The Watchtower organization has for years, promoted their literature to as many people possible.  They have slandered individuals, organizations, political leaders, religions; but anyone who publicly brings their opinions to the world about them, they are hunted down using legal teams and  money donated by JWs.  If this is God's organization, why use the world's legal system and the world's lawyers to fight its battles?  Why not "wait on Jehovah" as its leaders tell its members to do, when injustices are committed within the organization?  
    “But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29 If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them. 30 Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. 31 Do to others as you would have them do to you."  Luke 6:27-37
     
     
     
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    Dmitar reacted to Witness in FALSE CLAIMS   
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Time to ban dimtar.   
    Um. right.
    So I was partly right then  .  I wouldn't have thought non-Witness moderators would be interested in moderating this Witness open club. But i can understand if it gets too nasty or threatening then yes it needs a form of control.
    I'm still at a loss as to why i was banned though. I didn't think I actually threatened anyone or encouraded violence. But that's life, we all have different opinions. Have a good day. 
     
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in FALSE CLAIMS   
    No it's your blindness so it's your problem. 
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Jesus prayed to His Heavenly Father, Let Your Name Be Sanctified   
    And in your rant you deliberately avoided my  point and my question. A typical JW responce. 
    Are you a GB member ?  You sound like it. The way you try to domineer.
    Oh such force that people should be frightened of you.  But look I smile at you. 
    You are no closer to Almighty God than I am. 
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Jehovah's Witnesses money   
    https://ibsaproperty.com/
    IBSA Properties UK.  Estate Agents / Real Estate for big time properites. 
    IBSA London Properties is part of IBSA (International Bible Students Association) a registered charity acting on behalf of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Britain and Ireland. For more information about Jehovah’s Witnesses please follow this link.
    Watchtower Accounts UK
    https://register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-details/?subid=0&regid=1077961
    Annual Returns UK
    https://register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-search/-/charity-details/3966490/accounts-and-annual-returns
    Kingdom Hall trust
    https://register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-details/?regid=275946&subid=0
     
     
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    Dmitar reacted to Srecko Sostar in Jehovah's Witnesses money   
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    Dmitar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Time to ban dimtar.   
    Interesting that @Matthew9969 suggested such an action, when there are people far worse here, including that person. Funny how that person only recommended me, when @JW Insider, @TrueTomHarley, @xero, @Pudgy, and many more can be considered by their lack of restraint. 
    How does that work here, exactly? Do I need to be rude, obnoxious, a liar, cynical of the Jehovah's Witnesses institution, misapply scripture, etc.? What?
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    Dmitar reacted to Pudgy in FALSE CLAIMS   
    Montana is a “red state” one of the few that does not allow dead Democrats to vote … and vote often. To make up for this they allow the prosecution of dead Democrats, even those from other States. 
    Dead people under indictment for crimes have never complained.
    Pastor Russell was a known Democrat during a time when the WTB&TS bought War Bonds, JW precursors fought in WW1, and voted Democrat, mostly.
    This all ended when Donald J. Trump became the 9th member of the Governing Body.
     
     
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    Dmitar reacted to TrueTomHarley in Time to ban dimtar.   
    Sorry, @JW Insider     I couldn’t resist.
    My first downvote ever.
     
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