Dmitar

And you are such a fine example.

The lumping process continues. How many people can another person lump to gether.
It must be a forum game. Lump the people !   Well I suppose you could lump eveyone on this forum together because they are all on the same forum. 
Keep it up billy kid, you are a great laugh.

And ordinary people such as myself are supppoed to 'gain accurate knowledge' from you lot ?
And you people think my idea about a True Anointed appearing as the spiritual 'JEW', to guide people from all nations, is a crazy idea. 
Listen to yourselves arguing and quoting reams of scripture, only to disagree on it's meanings. 
And JWs eagerly hope for Armageddon to come, whilst there, in the real world, good people are confused and lied to about Almighty God and Jesus Christ. 

Yes indeed, but I for one do not hide behind the JW org. At least you all know why I left the Org and why I dislike it so much. 
Whomever it is, they just seek attention, so yes could easily be a GB member .  But they, like all of us, will be judged by Yeshua in due time. Meanwhile she/he/it could be frightening to new members here. 
Peace and love to all, John 

Yes I've always hated wicked spirits.  The Devil's influence that guides the JW Org should be hated.  But JWs love it. 
 
There are people of this world that promote peace and love, far more accurately than JWs do. 
Romans 2 : 14
Berean Study Bible
Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. 
 

But you cannot do both.  You either learn more about the Bible, OR you learn about JWs.
The Bible is the sensible choice to learn. 

It's good you are finally making an effort to think. 

:))This description is very similar to the descriptions of those people who believe in hell.

:)) this is so good. Dmitar is in this forum "club", but in the same time he isn't.

Another uneducated creature makes the scene to defend @JW Insider like clockwork. There's something to be said about communication. The difference here, the defense comes from a convicted former witness to another foolish creature @Patiently waiting for Truth. What a group of thespians they make. @JW Insider, @Pudgy, @Patiently waiting for Truth, @Srecko Sostar, and soon @xero will join in. Jehovah's Witnesses and former Jehovah's Witnesses working in unison. It's amazing how the conversation turns into insults and unity, when an acceptable opposing side is loosing reason and wisdom. 

That was on the closed club for JWs Only. But here is some of it again. Note however that Witness is somewhat correct that the actual term "image" from Rev 13, 14, 15, 16, 19, and 20 has not been used since 2012, [in the WT or books] which is nearly 10 years. But the same idea is tied to Rev 17 (the scarlet-colored beast) which has been used as a more direct reference to the UN.
*** w20 May p. 7 pars. 17-18 “The King of the North” in the Time of the End ***
17 The king of the north has supported the king of the south in one key endeavor; they “put in place the disgusting thing that causes desolation.” (Dan. 11:31) That “disgusting thing” is the United Nations.
18 The United Nations organization is described as a “disgusting thing” because it claims to be able to do something that only God’s Kingdom can do—bring world peace. And the prophecy says that the disgusting thing “causes desolation” because the United Nations will play a key role in the destruction of all false religion.—See the chart “Rival Kings in the Time of the End.”
*** w19 September pp. 10-11 par. 11 Armageddon Is Good News! ***
Jehovah will destroy “the great prostitute” by means of “the ten horns” of “a scarlet-colored wild beast.” That figurative wild beast represents the United Nations. The ten horns represent the current political powers supporting that organization.
*** w19 October p. 15 par. 3 Stay Faithful Through the “Great Tribulation” ***
God will put his thought into the hearts of “the ten horns” of the “scarlet-colored wild beast.” The ten horns represent all the political powers that support “the wild beast”—the United Nations. (Rev. 17:3, 11-13; 18:8) When those political powers turn on false religion, that will mark the beginning of the great tribulation. It will be a truly catastrophic world event.
*** w15 7/15 p. 15 pars. 4-5 “Your Deliverance Is Getting Near”! ***
Jehovah God will put “his thought” into the hearts of “the ten horns” of the “scarlet-colored wild beast.” These horns represent all the present political powers that give support to the United Nations, an organization pictured by the “scarlet-colored wild beast.”—Read Revelation 17:3, 16-18.
5 Should we conclude, though, that the destruction of the religions of Babylon the Great results in the death of all the former members of those religions? Apparently not.
*** w14 10/15 p. 19 Milestones in My Life of Kingdom Service ***
The Bible foretold that the League would be replaced, leading to a time of relative peace. And so it was that in 1945, World War II ended. After that, the “beast” reappeared as the United Nations. Jehovah’s Witnesses then expanded their global preaching work, and what a great increase there has been ever since!
*** w13 7/15 pp. 4-5 par. 6 “Tell Us, When Will These Things Be?” ***
In the larger fulfillment, the “standing” will occur when the United Nations (the modern-day “disgusting thing”) attacks Christendom (which is holy in the eyes of nominal Christians) and the rest of Babylon the Great. The same attack is described at Revelation 17:16-18. That event will be the beginning of the great tribulation.
*** ws12 6/15 pp. 17-18 par. 13 Jehovah Reveals What “Must Shortly Take Place” ***
The League of Nations disappeared when World War II started. During that war, God’s people said that according to the prophecy in Revelation, this organization would appear again. That is exactly what happened, and now the organization is called the United Nations.—Revelation 17:8.
*** ws12 6/15 p. 18 par. 15 Jehovah Reveals What “Must Shortly Take Place” ***
The religions of Christendom are surely part of Babylon the Great. False religions have publicly supported the image of the beast, that is, the League of Nations and the United Nations, and they have tried to direct these organizations.

Thank you for the quotes.
That “disgusting thing” is the United Nations.
18 The United Nations organization is described as a “disgusting thing” because it claims to be able to do something that only God’s Kingdom can do—bring world peace.
 
Matt 24:15 - “So when you see the “disgusting thing” - the abomination of desolation,spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place” (let the reader understand)… 
The scriptures provide the definition of the disgusting thing.  It is the trampling of the Temple of God, not that the UN “claims to be able to do something that only God’s Kingdom can do”. (Although that is what the Wt. organization claims, that spiritual peace and security are found within it.  1 Thess 5:3)    Daniel defines the abomination/disgusting thing quite clearly as affecting the Temple of God and His holy people, not all religions. It is the fourth Beast of Dan 7:7.  The footnote for “abomination” (Matt 24:15) refers to Dan 9  (Dan 9:24-27; Luke 17:26,27; Rev 12:1-3,15; 16:13-16).   Jerusalem and the Temple (1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22) are affected by the abomination. (Dan 7:25; 8:11,12,24)  We know the first fulfillment of this was in the first century, but there is another spoken of in Revelation which was written after Jerusalem’s destruction.  (Isa 26:13; 2 Thess 2:4; Rev 11:1-3; 13:1,2,5-7,11,12,15; 2 Chron 23:6)
So Wt concentrates on the scarlet-colored wild beast; and as you say, skips over Rev 13 that mentions the “image” of the Beast, how it became that way, and that describes both the Wild Beast and the Beast/false prophet that directs it.  Why do they avoid these scriptures?  The primary target of the Wild Beast are the “saints”, not Christendom or false religion. (Rev 13:5-7)  And the saints are in the Watchtower, whose leaders avoid the truth.  These are the same leaders who have given breath/life to the “image of the Beast”, promoted as “Jehovah’s spirit-directed organization”, which now, even that label they are trying to drop and tuck away...out of sight.
Rev 14 – Three messengers/angels warn of the consequences of those worshiping the Beast and its image, and having its mark on the forehead; and it continues describing two harvests, of righteous “wheat” from the “earth” ,and the unrighteous ripened grapes from the vine of Sodom. (Deut 32:32; Rev 8:10,11; 17:1; (Matt 3:12; Joel 2:12,13; 3:13,14)   If Wt is correct in their interpretation of the Beast, I would guess THEY would provide these three messengers to sound the warning throughout the earth?  But, they have ignored this chapter that speaks of the spirit-directed image of the Beast, for ten years; and they wait with baited breath for Armageddon to break out any day now. 
Rev 15 speaks of those who have gained victory over the Beast, since Rev 13:5-7 describes its war against the saints.  The victorious ones fell captive to the Beast, were “killed” by the Beast, but through their testimony of truth, gained eternal life. (Rev 11:7; 14:13)
Rev 16 – God’s wrath in the form of spiritual plagues against those who killed the saints and the prophets.  It describes the battle of Armageddon against…again, God’s saints, the “kings of the earth” (Rev 1:5) who are gathered by the Wild Beast, the false prophet, and Satan…to be flooded with lies – “demonic expressions”.  Rev 16:13-16
Rev 19 - The false prophet/Harlot of Rev 13:11 who has broken her covenant with God, is judged.  The Beast who warred with the saints, and the false prophet who approved of it, are both thrown into the lake of fire - the judgment by God's word.  Jer 23:29  This entire war is based on deceit.  It is not seen with the visible eye as the wars happening in the world.  (Eph 6:12)
The leaders don’t like touching Rev 20, because of Gog and Magog and when Satan was released from the abyss.  Why upset the thought of a peaceful thousand years to come after Armageddon, with another visit by Gog!  Plus, there are those mentioned who never worshipped the Beast.  Who are they?  Why are there some who are victorious at winning the war against the Beast in chapter 15, rejecting its mark and are killed by it, and others who never faced the Beast – who never fell captive to it and “worshipped” it?  It is because of their flawed timetable of when Christ’s thousand years began and when it ended – with the advent of the Wt.  
“As for the ten horns, out of this kingdom ten kings shall arise, and another shall arise after them; he shall be different from the former ones, and shall put down three kings.”  Dan 7:24
The Beast “kills” three kings – the same three messengers of Revelation 14 that declares its sins and warn of the coming judgment against the Beast and the false prophet/Harlot. 
“He shall speak words against the Most High, and shall wear out the saints of the Most High, and shall think to change the times and the law; and they shall be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time.”  Dan 7:25
Is the United Nations going to capture all the anointed saints, (Rev 13:10), kill those who stand up to it when giving “testimony of Jesus”, and refuse its mark/identity (Rev 13:15;12:17)?  And  then…will  they be resurrected to declare its sins as the two witnesses/three messengers in Revelation 14?  (Rev 11:1-3,7)
The Watchtower is the Wild Beast, the present GB entity is a "head" that direct it. (Rev 13:12) The organization/"Gentile" elder body is the "disgusting thing standing in the holy place"; which is the spiritual Temple of God, just as the abomination/disgusting thing was the Gentile Roman army in the first century, desecrating the temple in Jerusalem.  2 Thess 2:3,4 There is unity throughout God's word to help us understand end time fulfillment.   Watchtower makes up its fabrications, purposefully throwing all unity and definitions of scripture aside, to hide the truth.  
 
 

Don't tell me that you are taken in by the 'Bro' pretence as well.   Well we all have our own opinions don't we ?
Maybe you are taken in by all his 'burning' ideas as well  
I think Rambo is already confussed with not knowing what scriptures he believes and what they really means. He's still taking about hellfire and burning, poor man.  Then he mixes it up with a bundle of different dates and guesses, and you fall for it all ?   

So much contradiction in your words it proves you are not a JW. 
Using the 'Bro' to pretend you are a Brother, is soooo funy, but @Arauna has fallen for it. 
You never even mentioned Gehenna, the Second Death. And to mention eternity is also funny, as I will be dead and the dead are conscious of nothing at all.
Most of what you write contradics the Watchtower / GB teachings and you mention hell fire more than once when relating to me. It proves you are not a JW and proves you are fake.  But have fun because you have your followers on here.  You seem to be succeeding in your mission to put down the JW Org on this forum....

And who was Jesus speaking to ?  Please remember that Jesus came to the 'Lost tribe of the House of Israel'. 
Matthew 15 : 24  He answered: “I was not sent to anyone except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
The Nation of Israel was under covenant to Almighty God. They belonged to God.
And do you know why Jesus spoke those words. I have given the answer above. 
 

Mark 3 from : 28, Jesus said. 
Truly I say to you that all things will be forgiven the sons of men, no matter what sins they commit and what blasphemies they speak. 29  But whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit has no forgiveness forever but is guilty of everlasting sin.” 30  He said this because they were saying: “He has an unclean spirit.”

Nice that you linked the conversation.  As you said there, "It is unhealthy to continue with repetitive banter", SM.
Everything will come to light in its own time.  (Matt 10:26)
 

As I'm not Anointed I don't think I can sin against the Holy Spirit.  The Holy Spirit is given as a gift from God, to those of whom God wishes to be Anointed. Each of them will be part of the Body and Bride of Christ.  I am not a chosen one.
I never speak against Almighty God or Jesus Christ, or the Holy Spirit. 
The Watchtower / JW Org are just physical organsations, so anyone may speak against them or for them. 
But you oh man, what do you gain in serving Satan ?

Temper temper Rambo. Satan uses you well. 

You're not a WITNESS!  You have been REMOVED.  GET OVER IT... YOU ARE NOT COMING BACK... EVER!!!

Yea, People like you are here... so of course it does not look united. I can name a few very controversial people on here who are apostate and make us look disunited.... lol.... I wonder how you could not figure that out for yourself?  Either you are handicapped in some way or wish to ignore what is front of your eyes...... 

Arauna, JWs here on this forum are not in unity, imagine the disunity earth wide.  Mr Rando and Sower of Seed both differ from each other and from the Watchtower / GB teachings, but they both seem to be JWs. 

I commend you.  You have this remarkable talent of twisting whatever one says or doesn't say, into a lie.  

Obviously you won't read this, because it will take longer than 30 seconds.  I don't need to "try" to conform to your wishes, but to conform my words to truth in God's word.  Isn't that right?  But, in a rather larger nutshell, this is why I wouldn't spend time on Catholic forums or atheist forums.
Unlike the Watchtower, which preaches that the warning call to come out of "Babylon" applies to all other religions, this call's history was directed to God's people under covenant.  (Jer 51:6) .   And why were God's people in Babylon to begin with?  False prophets, idolatry and rebellion against His decrees thrived among His people.  When His warning call sent through His messengers was unheeded, He removed His protection, and they were conquered by the enemy.  They were disciplined through this enemy’s power, but not all responded in repentance.  Their hearts became hardened; they loved the lies and the idolatry.   
Today’s warning call is also to those under covenant with God, and has  been going on for quite a few years. 1 Cor 5:9-13 used for disfellowshipping purposes, applies to those under the New Covenant, and not to all JWs.  Elders have no permission to judge those under God's covenant. They have no permission to judge any JW.   The judges of the Body of Christ are the anointed.  Additionally, it states, God judges those outside - the Catholics, the atheist, and all.  Yet, because of their association with the Body, JWs receive this message as well. (Matt 25:31-46; John 13:20; Matt 7:21-23; 2 Thess 2:8; Rev 13:1,4,8; Isa 57:20)  The "harvest" is of the wheat, sons of God/anointed priests who are now under "Babylon" - a spiritual state of confusion where dark, failed untruths have no share in the light and purity of Jesus Christ. (Matt 13:38; 2 Cor 6:14; Eph 4:25)  They “live” with spiritual harlots who love their riches, power and dominion over Christ’s “kings of the earth”. Rev 1:5;5:9,10  Revelation concerns Christ’s kings, not rulers on the political scene. (Jer 2:20; 13:27; Ezek 16:25; Ps 106:39; Rev 13:11,12; 17:15,5)
 The Wt. holds the rod of discipline that has come against the anointed – Prov 10:13; Dan 2:33,34; Ps 2:9; Isa 8:9; Dan 8:25; Rev 9:9
– a stinging army from the "north", the elder body/man of lawlessness which has trampled down the spiritual members of God's Temple.  (Amos 7:1; Joel 1:4,6,7,9; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Rev 11:1-3; Rev 9:3-6)   Why?  They have accepted the lies of false prophets, and the idolatry formed through the presence of these prophets’ earthly treasures – the organization.  They have allowed themselves to be trampled ; GOD’S TEMPLE  is in ruins.  In the organization the anointed living stones, must not become one body under Jesus Christ.  They must remain scattered according to your leadership – “not one stone upon a stone”.  (Matt 24:2,24-26)
Always, God has sent His messengers to His people under covenant. (Ezek 3:17-19; Amos 3:7) When there is no distinction being made between the sins of the Wt and the sins of the world, it should be clear that the anointed must detach themselves from such iniquity, and the abomination standing in the holy place. (Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:3,4)   Except JWs see only the sins of the world, and excuse, or are oblivious to, their organization’s sins.
The call is only indistinct to those who choose to remain asleep in darkness - who believe God does not measure the sins of His people. (Ezek 2:5; Zech 2:6,7; Rev 11:1)  If they choose lies over truth – where spiritual harlots breathe out lies to God’s holy people -  their hearts are hardened to the understanding of the message. (Isa 6:10; Matt 13:15; 2 Thess 2:9-12; Rev 16:13-16)  God does not abandon us to darkness, if we yearn to receive the light of life through His Son. (Jer 3:22; 14:7;24:7; Zech 2:8-13;  Eph 5:13-17)
Salvation awaits those who reject the lies, the idolatry, the sins, and man of lawlessness  (Isa 48:20; Rev 18:4-8) Since Christ, this salvation has never been in the form of an earthly organization/corporation built in Satan’s realm, admitted to be a unique idea of men.  God and Jesus Christ are there to comfort the victims of captivity, sin, dominion, and the oppressive decrees of men.  Just as Babylon was destroyed, and only a remnant survived, it is the same today.  Only a remnant will return from “captivity” under the Harlot and her “Beast”.  (Rev 13:10) (Isa 41:11,10; Mal 3:6; Joel 3:1,2; Isa 43:5-9)
 

Cartoon dogs do not get baptized .... we have Bark-Mitzvahs.