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    Dmitar reacted to Srecko Sostar in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    According to official statements in WTJWorg publications, they were "Refined"  in 1919 under name Bible Students and "recognized" by Jesus and JHVH as only true organization that was not part of "Babylon the Great". :))
    JW members, or in fact GB as Main Ecclesiastical Body for all JW members, draws its inviolable spiritual position from that date. Continue to be persistent, but readers will see that your claims are weak.  
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    Dmitar reacted to Witness in LOVE FOR JESUS CHRIST   
    Hebrew 101 🙂
     
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    Dmitar reacted to Srecko Sostar in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    That is an indisputable fact.
    It is also undeniable that the claims and theology of former and current JW leaders show that they are part of a general religious confusion. 
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    Dmitar got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    Sorry, I must have missed that point. Whenever you get a chance.
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    Dmitar got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    When have you not made that stipulation, especially when you commented we are in a JW forum. Are you NOW including other Christian Religions?
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    Dmitar reacted to Witness in LOVE FOR JESUS CHRIST   
    I can't believe your blindness.  I just wrote a topic on loving Jesus Christ without bounds, and you say I reject Jesus. You can't see the forest for the trees.  Is the tetragrammaton less important to you than the hybrid name, "Jehovah"?  If I call God, "Father", am I a hypocrite?  If I use the letters YHVH to represent the God I am referring to, am I a "Big Fake"?   Have I rejected God and His Son?  Or, have I just rejected the hybrid name, "Jehovah"?
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    Dmitar reacted to Witness in LOVE FOR JESUS CHRIST   
    No, it reads, "Yah Will Save, Yah Saves"  
    On the JW website is the "Bible in Living English".  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/publication/r1/lp-e/by
    It states, "As to the Old Testament name of God, certainly the spelling and pronunciation “Jehovah” were originally a blunder."  (page 7)
    You also might want to check out John 1:1 in this Bible owned by the Society, and also in the "Emphasized Bible", which uses "Yahweh" and not "Jehovah".    
    https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/binav/r1/lp-e/rh
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in I doubt that Disturbed was thinking what I was thinking   
    May years ago when I lived in Bristol (England) there was an Elder that would whistle the tune to Bohemien Rhapsody.
    I asked him if he knew what he was whistling. He said he just liked the tune. I explained to him that it was a song by a homosexual band about murdering someone. He said he didn't care and he would stil whistle that tune.  
    When my wife was studying with two sisters they admitted to liking Meatloaf's Bat out of Hell.  Meatloaf is singing about 'his heart tearing out of his body, whilst still beating, and flying away like a bat out of hell'... I really cannot imagine two JW sisters listening to it but it seems they enjoyed it. 
    It's funny what some JWs like. To me it's all 'part of the world' but I suppose we all need to listen to something. 
    But it seems Dimmy is keen on talking about racism and politics here. Now that has to be part of this world. 
     
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in I doubt that Disturbed was thinking what I was thinking   
    You see Dimmy, I was right. All you do is ask question after question after question, just to be annoying.
    What do you post here that is spiritually helpful ?
    What do you post here that gives any idea of what you believe ?
    And now to add to your cooking pot, you are bringing in racism. 
    Dimmy, you do not have to be here. Do you understand YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REMAIN HERE. 
    If you are sooooo unhappy with this forum then leave, go elsewhere. 
    But no, you just try to be annoying to everyone else. I say TRY to be annoying, because you do not succeed.
    You are only good to laugh at. 
     
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    Dmitar reacted to Arauna in I doubt that Disturbed was thinking what I was thinking   
    I do not even know why I engage with you - the logic .... well, I had a few choice names for it but decided to leave it - not worth it.
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    Dmitar reacted to Arauna in I doubt that Disturbed was thinking what I was thinking   
    There is a world-famous aria from "Norma".  It was very easy for me but I refused to sing it because it had religious connections. Today, I think, I was too strict.  Most people do not know the context and just listen to the music because it is absolutely beautiful.  On the other hand, I sang "queen of the Night"  and knew the opera was an allegory of the free masons.... but this was ok to me.   Just shows a little knowledge can be dangerous.
    I think music is a personal choice. 
     
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    Dmitar reacted to Witness in LOVE FOR JESUS CHRIST   
    This quote came from another forum:
    "Like those in Christendom, the early Bible Students mistakenly allowed their love for Jesus to overshadow their relationship with Jehovah. Beginning in 1919, however, they came to see that Jehovah and their relationship with him should be the focus of their worship. We can be thankful that we understand that our affection for Jesus is key to having a relationship with Jehovah. We must attach neither too much nor too little importance to our love for Jesus.—John 16:27"..... Wt. 4/2020 study edition
    We must attach neither too much nor too little importance to our love for Jesus.
    How does that work?  It works well through fear and ignorance.  JWs are taught not to love, and taught to downplay the role of Christ.  Many call him “the ransom” – true, but very sterile.   I was thinking how the name “Jehovah” is used much more than “Father”. “Jehovah” is said to be a friend; a father can be a friend, but the true love between a father and a son has no limits.  If Jesus and the Father are “one”, (John 10:30) and we are to honor the Son as we honor the Father, (John 5:23)  wouldn’t our love for both have no bounds?  JWs are to “imitate Jehovah”.  I doubt God regulates how much love He has for His Son.   If the leadership feels love for Christ must be bridled, kept in check, where is their scriptural proof.  Their choice of John 16:27 doesn’t cut it.
    “neither too much nor too little”.  Right in the middle – neither hot nor cold.  Tepid.  Synonyms:  dull, halfhearted, unenthusiastic, apathetic, disinterested…lukewarm. 
    I personally, would never underestimate Christ’s reaction on the matter, upon his return.
    ‘I know your deeds, that you are neither cold (invigorating, refreshing) nor hot (healing, therapeutic); I wish that you were cold or hot. 16 So because you are lukewarm (spiritually useless), and neither hot nor cold, I will vomit you out of My mouth [rejecting you with disgust]. 17 Because you say, “I am rich, and have prospered and grown wealthy, and have need of nothing,” and you do not know that you are wretched and miserable and poor and blind and naked [without hope and in great need] 
     I counsel you to buy from Me gold that has been heated red hot and refined by fire so that you may become truly rich; and white clothes [representing righteousness] to clothe yourself so that the shame of your nakedness will not be seen; and healing salve to put on your eyes so that you may see. 19 Those whom I [dearly and tenderly] love, I rebuke and discipline [showing them their faults and instructing them]; so be enthusiastic and repent [change your inner self—your old way of thinking, your sinful behavior—seek God’s will].   Rev 3:15-20
     
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    In truth Dimmy, you do not want civil discussion. You just want to find fault in others.  The scriptures tell us that no one can bridle the tongue, because we are ALL imperfect.  
    However, what i do read here is people having their own opinions. Whereas you don't seem to have an opinion, you just ask question upon question upon question, just to annoy people.  
    As a former JW I admit to having faults, faults to the point of not expecting to gain entry to that 'New World'.  However I am NOT trying to lead thousands of people by telling lies. I am not pretending that God or Christ 'trusts me'. 
    The GB that you serve pretend that God and Christ 'trust them'. That same GB have given themselves the title of 'Faithful and Discreet Slave'.  That same GB are standing on top of the True Anointed remnant. That same GB are stating that those of the Anointed would be 'working against God's Hol Spirit' if those of the Anointed should gather together in prayer or Bible study. 
    So Dimmy, How are those things not questionable ??????????? 
    I use Jesus as my example. Jesus was not frightened to show people up for what they really were. 
    You will know the words that Jesus used regarding the Pharisees. You will know that Jesus threw the wicked ones out of the temple.  In fact I think you would have accused Jesus of not being civil at that time. 
    We are supposed to follow the example of Jesus Christ. Love what is good, hate what is bad. 
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    So one minute this person is ignoring me, but the next minute this person is talking about me.  
     
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    So tell me, did Jesus speak evil of the Pharisies ? OR, did Jesus only speak TRUTH ? 
    If the sins of a man are made known as a warning to others, is that speaking evil of that man, or is it speaking truth ? 
    Truth is not evil.  When crimes and sin have been commited by someone, it should be made known. 
     
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    Thanks for the more compliments Dimmy. 
    1 Corinthians 1:27 
    Berean Study Bible
    But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.
    So I don't mind you calling me foolish. 
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in I doubt that Disturbed was thinking what I was thinking   
    Without a parable Jesus would not speak.
    Without a worldly video @xero would not write  
     
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    Dmitar reacted to xero in I doubt that Disturbed was thinking what I was thinking   
    Th D clown made me think of this.
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    Dmitar reacted to Witness in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    I just read Zeph 3 this morning - 
    Zeph 3 - Woe to the city of oppressors,
        rebellious and defiled!
    2 She obeys no one,
        she accepts no correction.
    She does not trust in the Lord,
        she does not draw near to her God.
    3 Her officials within her
        are roaring lions;
    her rulers are evening wolves,
        who leave nothing for the morning.
    4 Her prophets are unprincipled;
        they are treacherous people.
    Her priests profane the sanctuary
        and do violence to the law. (Ezek 44:6-9..."representing the royal priesthood...")
     
    Matt 7: 15 “Be on your guard against false prophets who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravaging wolves.”

    Matt 24:24,25 – “For false messiahs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. 25 Take note: I have told you in advance.”
    2 Pet 3 -  15 “And regard the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as also our dear brother Paul wrote to you, according to the wisdom given to him, 16 speaking of these things in all his letters. Some things in these letters are hard to understand, things the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they also do to the rest of the scriptures. 17 Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard that you do not get led astray by the error of these unprincipled men and fall from your firm grasp on the truth.”
    Paul related, “I know that after I am gone fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Even from among your own group men will arise, teaching perversions of the truth to draw the disciples away after them.”
    …leading astray, “even the elect”.  Matt 24:24
     
     
     
     
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    Dmitar reacted to Matthew9969 in I doubt that Disturbed was thinking what I was thinking   
    And you just happened to have to bring darkness to a good topic. And disturbed aren't racist you idiot.
     
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    Dmitar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in I doubt that Disturbed was thinking what I was thinking   
    I’m not referring to the lyrics but rather the band. If the lyrics are to your liking, then post the lyrics. Don't promote the white supremacist band to make a point. Don't use the lyrics as an excuse to defend your brother, as it appears all Jehovah Witnesses do here. 
    There was a time in the past when a person used the same text this person used this time. That person was ridiculed and was subject to criticism by people here, commenting it was just an excuse to justify that person’s bad behavior.
    "The same Jesus who drove out the money changers w/whips, called them offspring of vipers, that their father was the Devil and who suggested that congregations making a pretense at Christianity to get either cold or hot else he'd vomit them out of his mouth."
    Can anyone explain why this person shouldn’t be criticized for the same bad behavior now?
    Is there a monopoly on how members here use the Bible to benefit themselves? Is it out of friendship, people here are willing to accept certain people’s bad behavior, while not tolerating others bad behavior? Therefore, is this site just meant for a few troubling souls?
    It also appears, at times, you have former members of this institution “defending” those Jehovah Witnesses that are rude and obnoxious, while making it seem, the entire institution behaves in the same corrosive manner, while claiming their own spiritual superiority in the name of God.
    Can you explain, why I should "accept" the behavior of such a bad Jehovah's Witness?
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    Dmitar reacted to Pudgy in I doubt that Disturbed was thinking what I was thinking   
    I was just sitting here on the floor, with my chin on my dog food bowl contemplating the Universe when I read Dmitar’s tirade, and I thought occurred to me that Dmitar is somewhat like a slinky…… it has no purpose, but it’s entertaining if you push it down the stairs.
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    Dmitar reacted to Matthew9969 in I doubt that Disturbed was thinking what I was thinking   
    Where do you get the idea that Disturbed is a white supremacist metal group?
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    Dmitar reacted to xero in I doubt that Disturbed was thinking what I was thinking   
    I never push. If someone is happy w/the slop they're eating then it's not their time. If someone chooses to argue and I discern some value to them in so doing I will, but if it becomes like most useless exchanges on the internet I leave.
    The angels are involved and Jehovah is involved and Jesus said "No one can come to the Father unless I draw him." So if they aren't being drawn at that moment, its just time to plant a seed here or there and let it be what it will.
    Neither you nor I nor anyone else's activity in person or on the internet is needful save to the one who is performing this activity, because the garden we are concerned with is our own. When we listen to the bible and our conscience and understand that we don't have it made and that we have to exert ourselves vigorously, at those moments we're on track.
    I'll admit to being off track a lot, but I try to get back on track (knowing I'll get off track again).
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