Dmitar

One thing I have noted about Dmitar's posts that is universally true.
They can without exception be safely ignored.
... and very possibly SHOULD be.

Sad to say, this applies to you. A person without a will corrupts himself. Since you're not a good host, I will not use scripture with you. Please allow me the same respect from you. You have lost all reason to use scripture. Also, if you're going to use the Berean Bible Society Bible, understand their background. You will find, they have the same Christian foundation of writing as the former organization you disparage. You can start with their magazine "Berean Searchlight-2022".
Not only that, but you should pay closer attention to your spiritual leader here @Witness

And more to the point, does he still claim to own a 50 ca. BMG sniper rifle?

Oh no, not you and him competing on weapons again. I've got all that previous conversation saved to my computer  

Christ's disciples grew up under the old law covenant.  In one day, Jesus overturned their belief system.  They were gradually learning from the words of Jesus. 
His words/teachings have been around for over 2,000 years.  So what excuse do Wt's leaders of spiritual "Israel" have, for being so confused, evident in 150 years of ever changing doctrine?  Did it take 150 years for the apostles to figure it out?
 “These things I have spoken to you while being present with you. 26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you."  John 14:26
“But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me."  John 15:26
 “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened."  Matt 7:7,8
Confusion is not how Christ teaches truth.  Follow just one string of doctrine in the organization and it is evident that the doctrine's creator is confusion; which means, its leadership does not have the "Spirit of truth".
 "For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints."  1 Cor 14:33
 
 

If you really believe all this that you have written then I pity you for lack of your faith.
Quote "Christ’s followers were confused a lot of the times… " 
John 16 : 12 & 13  Berean Literal Bible Jesus said 
"Yet I have many things to say to you, but you are not able to bear them now." 
"But when He the, Spirit of truth, shall come, He will guide you into all the truth. For He will not speak from Himself, but whatever He may hear, He will speak. And He will declare to you the things coming."
So Jesus obviously didn't want to give them all the details at that time. 
However after His resurrection Jesus did explain more.
Luke 24 : 44 - 49. NWT
He then said to them: “These are my words that I spoke to you while I was yet with you, that all the things written about me in the Law of Moses and in the Prophets and Psalms must be fulfilled.” 45  Then he opened up their minds fully to grasp the meaning of the Scriptures, 46  and he said to them, “This is what is written: that the Christ would suffer and rise from among the dead on the third day, 47  and on the basis of his name, repentance for forgiveness of sinse would be preached in all the nations—starting out from Jerusalem. 48  You are to be witnesses of these things. 49  And look! I am sending upon you what my Father promised. You, though, stay in the city until you are clothed with power from on high.”
Quote "and what of Peter renouncing Jesus three times..out of fear" 
Do you think so ? Had Jesus not already told Peter what would happen. Do you not think it was planned to happen that way. Don't you think the crowd would have grabbed Peter and possibly killed him if Peter had confessed to being with Jesus ?  Jesus knew the outcome and the possible danger for peter. 
Quote "all of them were confused and frightened on the night of Jesus and his betrayal….they scattered frightened and left him alone"
Once again preplanned. Matthew 26 : 31 & 32 NWT
Then Jesus said to them: “All of you will be stumbled in connection with me on this night, for it is written: ‘I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock will be scattered about.’ 32  But after I have been raised up, I will go ahead of you into Galʹi·lee.”
Have you no faith. What would have happened to those disciples if they had stayed there? This was a lynch mob that came to arrest Jesus. Jesus has forwarned them and told them they would scatter. 
Unfortunately you are just trying to make excuses for the GB. But you are insulting Jesus and His discipels. 

NO. I just use the Berean Study Bible. It is an easy Bible for me to read.... 
BUT You seem to need to connect me to something or to someone. 
You are a very sad person unfortunately. You have allowed yourself to be be currupted by other JWs.
As you say 'Bad association spoils good character', and the JW org IS bad association. 
But you copy TTH in this way, always trying to connect people, group people together, and aways for a reason to discreddit them. 
You grouped me with @Srecko Sostar and with @Witness and for what purpose ? Not to give us any credit but for the purpose of your own arguemnet.  
So i didn't bother to read that long dribble you probably coppied and pasted. Why ? Because it means nothing to me.
WE ALL NEED TO USE A BIBLE. I use the BSB and the NWT.  Neither of them are completely accurate. 
I do not think either of those Bibles are inspired or even guided by God of Christ. But they are both quite easy to use.
 

Jesus was the example. The perfect example to His Spirtual Brothers. The True Anointed.
 

A quick aside:
The reason that the NYT article I mentioned above included questions about the vaccine from Israel can easily be guessed. Israel is just about the most vaccinated country in the world, already beginning on the 4th jab. But due to Israeli apartheid, Palestine, right next door, has had great difficulty reaching "adequate" vaccination levels. Yet, Palestine is doing better than Israel with Covid-19. For those who read Hebrew and pick up some of the more obscure sources in the Israeli press, you can even find a sinister side to some Israeli expectations. Some had concluded that keeping it difficult for Palestinians to get the vaccine might result in greater deaths of Palestinians. This is not a bad outcome for Israelis who will privately share a Hebrew expression that states: "To kill an Arab is a blessing." 
[The university at which I studied Hebrew for 3.5 years has a high American-Jewish population, and although these are Americans who often have a strong prejudice against Israelis, there were also Israelis in the Hebrew classes, who joked about that same expression above. Also, separately, when I had joined a study group at the home of a Jewish family (where we studied physics) the home-owner (father of one student) learned that I spoke Hebrew, and his first question to me was. So now you know how to say: "To kill an Arab is a blessing."?]

I am not an anti-vaxxer. I believe that almost all the current vaccine types intended for Covid-19 have been proven, at least in the short term, to do more good than harm for a select group of individuals who have not previously had the virus itself, and/or who have the typically identified comorbidities such as obesity, diabetes, advanced age, cancer, prior respiratory issues, etc.
However, because these vaccines really can produce better outcomes for some, many people apparently do not understand why there should be any limitations on its use. The NYT has finally included some dissenting opinions about the efficacy of the vaccines (without ridiculing them) in a recent discussion among Israeli doctors and an ex-health minister. 
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/23/world/middleeast/israel-vaccine-4th-dose.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur
It admits that several scientists have claimed that boosters may make it more difficult to fight the virus.
But that's not the news I refer to here. It's the 3-hour interview (below) that Joe Rogan had with Dr. Malone, who was the man who invented (got several patents for) the mrna technology on which many of the vaccines are based. If anyone has spent any time at all discussing the virus or the vaccines, or spent any time listening to news reports about them, then this could easily be the most important information ever presented about these topics.
It's here:
Dr. Robert Malone interviewed by Joe Rogan
  I think everyone ought to at least give it an hour, especially considering the many hours that other news sources that we will be exposed to.

What should that message be? To behave as the world does? What kind of message are we giving here? The message of Christ or the message of the AntiChrist?
It is simple to recite scripture. Does, that really serve a purpose when the heart is not set in righteousness? 

What lesson should we gather from that. Once again, what fellowship is worthy here?
Then why be quarrelsome about spiritual leaders if you indeed accept all men but one are imperfect, yet, God saw fit to use those imperfect men. God is not a God of confusion, neither should Christ followers.

@Witness 
What fellowship should I have here?
1 Corinthians 15:33 Paul is talking about those people with whom we associate or fellowship. We tend to take on the character of the group with which we associate. If we associate with people of bad character, they will succeed in pulling us down to their level.

I fail to see the difference given the definition.
God and Christ demand that of us, not men, even though that was the purpose to descend, Jesus a spirit as a man. Therefore, we are obligated as Christians to listen to that man if we wish to remain in his fellowship.
I fail to see how projecting your personal feelings amounts to following in Jesus footsteps.
You would think, any Christian leader would exercise being humble and responsible. Where can you find a perfect man to commission leaders today? Isn't that the truth spoken in scripture?
Spiritual leaders should have access where a concern is deemed necessary. How many personal conversations do you think the Pope has in a day, if it isn't indirectly mentioned to him by his Cardinals or Bishops?
I see no difference with a structured organization. Why should any Christian have a problem with that. It was conducted in the first century church.

How would this not apply to anyone here?
When the Bible Students began to apply scripture correctly, and Russell was inspired to follow the lead of the first Christian as ascribed by our lord and savior, are you saying, Christ application of the ancient scrolls were false teachings? How can this ideology presented here by you not be seen as a false prophet as you apply it to this organization?
By your own words, I'm afraid you are.
In studying their organization, I have not seen where a student glorifies their leaders. They venerate their leaders, which is not the same, as the apostles graciously placed themselves as an example. In the eyes of God, we are all equal. That however doesn't mean the apostles didn't have a responsibility to be spiritual leaders. Any religious institution needs leaders that understand the foundation of scripture correctly.
Take example with the poster Witness. This individual venerates a blogger. By that determination, that person is a spiritual leader to Witness. Another thing you have not considered; a "gathering" The implication of a gathering is two or three individuals. If that is established as it is done here by @Srecko Sostar, @Witness, @Patiently waiting for Truth, you have formed an unintentional church. If you consider the Book of Matthew, follow along and understand the entire Book. Once you have established that, you will concede "witness" to be your spiritual leader since you agree with that individual. 
Once again, The usage of scripture is meant to be used as a spiritual calling to excellence.

What should that message be? To behave as the world does? What kind of message are we giving here? The message of Christ or the message of the AntiChrist?
It is simple to recite scripture. Does, that really serve a purpose when the heart is not set in righteousness? 

What lesson should we gather from that. Once again, what fellowship is worthy here?
Then why be quarrelsome about spiritual leaders if you indeed accept all men but one are imperfect, yet, God saw fit to use those imperfect men. God is not a God of confusion, neither should Christ followers.

@Witness 
What fellowship should I have here?
1 Corinthians 15:33 Paul is talking about those people with whom we associate or fellowship. We tend to take on the character of the group with which we associate. If we associate with people of bad character, they will succeed in pulling us down to their level.

I fail to see the difference given the definition.
God and Christ demand that of us, not men, even though that was the purpose to descend, Jesus a spirit as a man. Therefore, we are obligated as Christians to listen to that man if we wish to remain in his fellowship.
I fail to see how projecting your personal feelings amounts to following in Jesus footsteps.
You would think, any Christian leader would exercise being humble and responsible. Where can you find a perfect man to commission leaders today? Isn't that the truth spoken in scripture?
Spiritual leaders should have access where a concern is deemed necessary. How many personal conversations do you think the Pope has in a day, if it isn't indirectly mentioned to him by his Cardinals or Bishops?
I see no difference with a structured organization. Why should any Christian have a problem with that. It was conducted in the first century church.

@Witness 
What fellowship should I have here?
1 Corinthians 15:33 Paul is talking about those people with whom we associate or fellowship. We tend to take on the character of the group with which we associate. If we associate with people of bad character, they will succeed in pulling us down to their level.

As far as I know I’ve never tried to defend the undefendable……which all religions are guilty of…yes as well as us….your blind to deep understandings serko ..and ones like you….it’s right there for you to read but you have to have insight…you have deceived yourself into thinking you are awake…and you genuinely believe what you feel ….like a sheep that has wandered into the wilderness only to be devoured by the beasts. 
where I did Joshua run to…where did Kaleb run to…did they run out and away from Gods people….
No..and they didn’t beat their fellow brothers and sisters either…they stood back…and waited for Moses ( Jesus ) to come back and clean the mess up..which he did.
What the likes of you are doing is presumptuous…you think you can do the job that only Jesus can do….even the apostles never showed such self righteousness and presumptuousness as you are.
When Jesus cleaned up the temple with a whip …did they step up with him and help him….no…because they had no right to….yet you think you are needed to straighten Us all out….
Gods people have always disappointed him down thru the ages..and he always disciplined them and corrected them….it’s not your job nor anyone else’s right   to do that.
what you are doing is what Jehovah HATES…and that is to cause divisions and doubts and to weaken one’s faith even in the creator…..how many have left the org and gone on to become atheists…or gone back to BTG…to the belief of the trinity and idol  worship…..heaps sereko…
Have you ever asked yourself if you have been guilty of extinguishing someone’s flickering flame …and been guilty of killing some one’s faith of entirely ….you want to be careful..because some one is watching the damage you do…and yes watching the damage we do….we all will be accountable..
Do I feel sad…..you bet!..I’ve had a lot of reasons to feel genuine righteous anger…but I don’t beat those around me who lack the insight I have had to dig deep to understand as to why such things happen…
Your bitterness is your undoing…and until you master it…you will never get such insight as to why Jehovah allows the wrongs he does.
YOU…are the one that was afraid of man…and others like you here…you bowed to their errors…..they broke you…because you don’t really know Jehovah and how he works and why he does certain things.
YOU let them change you serko…..and you don’t even know the woe you are bringing on your own head because of what you and others here are trying to do.
Your so full of self righteousness that you accuse us of…
Moses is not the type of the GB..nor Arron of the helpers….
When some one stumbles serko….we pick them up…we carry them…we don’t beat them and endanger their faith…your ignorance is bathed in bitterness and blindness…..so therefore you cannot and will not ever see the pattern laid down of Gods people since their existence….nor how Jehovah deals with them.
 

.... uh ..... short of supplyin' them with an orange 5 gallon Home Depot bucket of Prozac.
 

No one alone can remove them - that is true.  But, it is promised that God will put it into the hearts of the elder body/"man of lawlessness", along with anointed ones, to have them removed.  Rev 17:15-18

Being an ex-JW is not a bad thing. It is not a sin. Because it is plain to see that God and Christ do not work through the JW Org, and do not work through the GB. 

What you actually have IS JWs that are slaves of the GB.
1. Because the GB say that they are the 'Faithful and discreet Slave'
2. Because JWs have always only used GB material to witness to others.
3. JWs standing by a cart / trolly giving out GB propaganda. They are not handing out Bibles, which IS the word of God. They are handing out Watchtowers, Awakes, tracts, books, ALL written and/or approved by that GB. 
4. What are supposed to be 'Bible Studies' but in reality are Book Studies with the possible mention of a few scriptures. Those books are written by the GB.
Proof of such is simple when certain books are removed because certain GB members were also removed. Look at the history of the JW org. 
And Moses DIDN'T enter the 'Promised Land'.  Neither will the GB. But the GB state as fact that they WILL go to Heaven. A bit presumptuous ????? 
No indeed. In fact you comply. Continuing to hide Pedophiles in the JW org. Continuing to shun innocent victims and others that have been 'thrown out' just because the Elders do not like them. 
Wrong. You are not exactly mentally in or spiritually in if you know that the GB are not inspired and that you do not always believe what they say. Because if you were totally in you would believe they are the F&DS and you would follow their every word. 
So you are telling all JWs to remain in an immoral Org and to dish out the lies from the GB. 
Come on think about it. The mid-week meetings used to tell you (probs still do) exactly what to say to people 'on the doors'. The Sunday meetings comprised of a 'Public Talk' with a GB outline, and a Watchtower written by the GB. It was all the GB's words. Not the word of God. 
And because the GB and all the other hierarchy including Elders are so self righteous, Child Sexual Abuse probably still happens in congregations and is still not reported to the Police or the 'superior authorities'. I'm still waiting to hear what has happened to that 25 year + Child Sex Abuse Database that the GB / Lawyers are hiding in their USA HQ. 
You really expect JWs to invite young families into the JW Org when the JW Org is such an immoral dangerous place to be right now ????
 No, what they do is make excuses, just as you have done, and why ? Because you and others are frightened to 'go it alone'. That shows where your faith is, in the Org and not in God through Christ. 
JWs would have offered their children to a false god, and then JWs would have said 'but we didn't burn as many children as the other nations did'.
That is exactly what JWs are saying about Child Sexual Abuse. JWs are saying 'But we don't abuse as many children as other religions do'.  I've read it on here and I would think you have read it to. 
That is the Org you are part of.  That is what you defend.