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    Dmitar reacted to Witness in The Last Days that began in 1914 are now coming to their End...   
    HOW will the United Nations find all of the anointed priests in the organization and remove the "constant feature", their "daily sacrifices" that a priest is to carry out?
     "you yourselves, as living stones, are being built into a spiritual house for a holy priesthood to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ."  1 Pet 2:5
    1 Cor 3:16,17 - "Don’t you yourselves know that you are God’s temple and that the Spirit of God lives in you?  17 If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him; for God’s temple is holy, and that is what you are."
    How is the temple/priesthood destroyed?  Only by those who know where the anointed are found.  
    "built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the cornerstone. 21 In him the whole building, being put together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. 22 In him you are also being built together for God’s dwelling in the Spirit."  Eph 2:20-22
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in The Last Days that began in 1914 are now coming to their End...   
    My comment here will be totally off topic but :-
    This is one reason I could not be a JW now. If by studying God's word we put more faith in that Word, rather than the words of men, then how could a true Christian distribute the words of men above God's Word ?  How can JWs distribute the  Watchtower mags and other literature which gives information which contradicts God written Word ?
    JWI, I don't expect a sensible answer to this  
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    Dmitar reacted to JW Insider in The Last Days that began in 1914 are now coming to their End...   
    Hopefully, visitors will realize two things:
    The first thing is that JWs like myself might have completely different opinions about our chronology doctrines, and therefore, as individuals, any one person's opinion must not be all that important. We can take an interest in varying views but come to our own conclusions about them. This hopefully leads to putting more faith in the Bible as Jehovah's Word, rather than men's words, and each of our own opinions.
    The second thing is that it shows that JWs don't necessarily worship or blindly follow the GB and/or the Organization, but that we value the good things we learn and try to make sense of some of the things that don't make sense to us. We are always trying to make sure of all things, and hold fast to those things that are "fine."
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in The Last Days that began in 1914 are now coming to their End...   
    It is very sad to see how JWs on here disagree with each other and disagree with the Leaders of the Watchtower / JW Org.
    Mr Rando and Sower of Seed are here supposedly representing the JW Org, whilst both contradicting Watchtower / GB teachings. 
    What are visitors to this forum supposed to think ?  It doesn't need Ex-JWs or Anti-JWs to discredit the unity of the JW Org. JWs themselves are doing it right here. 
    If this is a small example of the disunity in the JW Org Earthwide, then maybe the Org will disband completely one day.  Maybe the judging and cleaning up has started already. 
    It certainly gives me more faith in a True Anointed being brought forward to guide God's servants through Christ.  
    Reading the different viewpoints on this forum makes it clear that humans alone cannot do it. 
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    Dmitar reacted to JW Insider in The Last Days that began in 1914 are now coming to their End...   
    Then you appear to disagree with the Watchtower publications on this point, where the 1,335 days end in the "happy" year: 1926.
    *** w51 7/15 pp. 437-438 par. 16 The 1,290 and 1,335 Days of Daniel’s Prophecy ***
    blessed is the one who comes to the 1,335 days. So reckoning this period on from the termination of the 1,290 days would mean from September, 1922, to May, 1926,—three years, eight and one-half months—at which time a large international convention of Jehovah’s people was in session at London, England. It was a season most blessed,
    And from 1977:
    *** go chap. 8 pp. 146-147 par. 57 Marked Days During the “Time of the End” ***
    Truly the year 1926 deserved to be marked as the happy climax of the close of the 1,335 days. Those of Daniel’s “people” who kept in expectation and reached the end of the 1,335 days were launched off into a happiness that has not diminished,
    And even more recently:
    *** w00 5/15 p. 14 par. 28 Pay Attention to God’s Prophetic Word for Our Day ***
    The 2,300 days of Daniel chapter 8 as well as the 1,290 and the 1,335 days of chapter 12 are all past—behind us in the stream of time.
     
    Of course, the "evidence on the ground" was quite different. The Yearbook (below) describes this period as one of the unhappiest times in WT history. The brothers and sisters were still reeling from the heartbreaking stumbling of so many brothers due to the failure of the 1925 prophecies from the "Millions" campaign and the failed predictions from the book The Harp of God, and the continuing departure of followers under Rutherford's direction. There were the additional failures of the expectations promoted in the book Comfort for the Jews, which had just come out in 1925 (rescinded in 1930/31), etc. 1926 also saw the beginning of heated arguments with Rutherford over why he still called for campaigns to sell Russell's "Studies in the Scriptures" to the public (from 1926-1931) even though Rutherford had begun to reject the majority of the content of those books.
    *** yb75 p. 146 Part 2—United States of America ***
    A. D. Schroeder states: “It was thought that then the remnant of Christ’s anointed followers would go to heaven to be part of the Kingdom and that the faithful men of old, such as Abraham, David and others, would be resurrected as princes to take over the government of the earth as part of God’s kingdom.”
    The year 1925 came and went. Jesus’ anointed followers were still on earth as a class. The faithful men of old times—Abraham, David and others—had not been resurrected to become princes in the earth. (Ps. 45:16) So, as Anna MacDonald recalls: “1925 was a sad year for many brothers. Some of them were stumbled; their hopes were dashed.
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    Dmitar reacted to JW Insider in The Last Days that began in 1914 are now coming to their End...   
    I think I just happened to run across another post like the one you were speaking about above.
    https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/61369/was-the-1914-prophecy-derived-from-the-book-of-daniel-ever-mentioned-in-any-ne/81433
    The responder to that question was @1982 and he also came up with nothing prior to 1914 by anyone except from those comments related to the WT.
    Of course, there is still the question of the unnamed Canadian minister that C T Russell referred to in 1914. I haven't looked yet for more information about him. It may be that this was just one of those cases of someone declaring that "the end is nigh" and "it's going to happen before the end of this year or next at the latest."
    Something like that was always happening somewhere for the majority of years after 1844. Probably, something like that is still happening somewhere in the world nearly every year, even now. This very forum gives evidence of that.
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in 2034 and its significance...   
    There has been enough real honest proof on this forum, to prove the things I've written above are true 
    Although you hate what i write, you could at least be honest enough to admit that what i write is true. Otherwise you are guilty of the deliberate sin of lying.  
    Maybe you have led a peaceful and happy life then, because my life was controlled when I was put into a Children's Home and sexually abused, beaten up, and emotionally abused. Oh yes I DO know what controll is. 
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    Dmitar reacted to Arauna in 2034 and its significance...   
    You obviously did not understand what you were reading because this is a false accusation... MMMM Millions now living may never die but may live through Armageddon.
     
    You do not know what control is. Like a typical spoilt  child which attacks without thinking.... tut tut... You have NOOO clue what  true control control is.  
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in 2034 and its significance...   
    Maybe you should re-read my comment above, about the JWs actions against God and Christ. 
    The Jews were once God's chosen people, but they sinned against God and killed His Son, Jesus Christ. 
    If ever the JW Org was God's chosen Org, then it has since sinned against God and 'killed' Christ anew. 
    The JW Org is immoral and it's Leaders have innocent blood on their hands. 
    Do you really think God and Christ will allow this ? 
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    Dmitar reacted to the Sower of Seed in 2034 and its significance...   
    You may need to explore Daniel 12:10 for days because unless you are humble and listen to the Word speak you will by no means understand the Truth.
    Jehovah's Witnesses are named in the Bible by God. They have systematically preached the Good News from door to door and translated and placed the Bible in more languages and nations than any other religion at their own expense. He has written His Laws upon their hearts. The Truth is Simple, Visible ONLY by His Drawing, I cannot alter or usurp that authority! Just as the Jews could not see who Jesus was, when he was standing there 3 feet away healing hands, ears, legs, eyes and lives! You will know a prophet was in your midst and you did not allow yourself to see or listen to him/Him, to bad, to bad.............
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in 2034 and its significance...   
    Many religions have 'spread the word of God' throughout this Earth.  I cannot say that any of them have done it properly.
    The JWs have spread Watchtower lies and given false dates and false promises. How can you pretend that it is 'true worship' ?   They lied about the 'Superior Authorities' mentioned in Romans. They lied about "Millions now living will never die", because they all died.  So many false dates for Armageddon just to frighten people into the Org.  They contiue to lie about the GB being the F&DS, and continue to tell the Anointed 'not to meet together for prayer or Bible Study. That is directly against the instruction from Jesus Christ.  They continue to baptise people into the Org and do not obey the instruction about baptism. 
    BUT YOU are frightened of the truth about your Org and it's Leaders, because you worship those 8 men who have power and control over you.
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in 2034 and its significance...   
    Telling the truth about your GB, their lawyers, and the lies told in the Watchtower magazines, has nothing to do with hate or OCD. 
    Your words were :-
     When I read Revelation, I see doom and gloom for those not offering up pure worship to Jehovah and SURVIVAL for those who do worship in Spirit and truth,,
    You were talking about PURE worship. You yourself know that the GB, the Watchtower and JW Org are NOT PURE. 
    THat is not hate Arauna, it's truth. 
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    Dmitar reacted to Arauna in 2034 and its significance...   
    Some urinate all over the precious truth as revealed by Jehovah to his people...... but jehovah will soon make their houses into privvy houses.  ... I recently read that scripture again somewhere.  .... Yes, we cannot talk against our own best interests by going against jehovah's wishes. 
     I often feel I am too outspoken and should tread more carefully too.... for in case someone gets the wrong impression about the Truth.  But as you say there is enough manure here that can colour the cleanest class of truth. 
    I noticed recently the scripture you quoted said        " with" spirit and truth. I thought about it and realized that we must also be connected to jehovah by His holy spirit. If we are outside his approved presence here in the forecourt of his temple on earth then we will not walk by his Spirit.
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    Dmitar reacted to the Sower of Seed in 2034 and its significance...   
    I use the verse John 4:23,24 to show there are 2 standings in Jehovah's eyes: True Worshipers and False Worshipers.
    There are some 10,000 False Religious Organizations who worship in some false form and 1 Organization that Jehovah has written His Principles on the figurative hearts because of their humbly seeking to please Him. They went out door to door instead of fishing Saturday morning week after week preaching the Good News through the inhabited Earth the angel in mid Heaven directed.
    Now that work has stopped, similar to the priestly actions that were halted in the past, a mark in time occurred that day and the days are counted from then to the fulfillment of the prophesy it pertains to.
    As for Jesus stating that no one knows, do you believe that will always be true? No, it would only be true if this all imagined and there is no God or Inspired Bible. Time and increased knowledge changes ones view, especially if you are one in the One.
    There is a lot of manure spread from person to person here, it and all history of it will soon be forgotten by those the angels don't destroy as at Matthew 13:43. All manure will have one definition there, for the truth will be increasingly what all speak until every lie is forgotten. Imagine the eons before Satan lied, the first lie in all eternity of the past.
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in 2034 and its significance...   
    Those not offering up pure worship to Almighty God must include the GB and their Lawyers then. And also include all those that serve the GB of the Watchtower / JW Org.  That service includes teaching others the GB's lies and mistakes, and putting dates on the things unknown........
    Those that worship in Spirit and truth must be the True Anointed ones. They are the only ones Anointed in Holy Spirit. 
    The best the rest of us can do is try to serve God properly through Jesus Christ.  
    The good news is beautiful and very encouraging, but that is scripture, it is not GB teachings nor Watchtower lies. 
     
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    Dmitar reacted to Pudgy in 2034 and its significance...   
    This is always true for people with a total lack of imagination, and motivation.
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    Dmitar reacted to Pudgy in 2034 and its significance...   
    For humans, the older you get, the more of the threat of being rounded up and put into an interment camp appears to be a good alternative to going to a rest home your children have picked out.
    Dogs have the advantage however because we know we will be loved and cared for at the home of those who love and care for us until the very end, and if necessary they will take us to the vet to be painlessly put down before  we start to rot while  still alive.
    A very great kindness, not available to most humans.
     
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in 2034 and its significance...   
    And the Watchtower / JW Org has the idolatry of Warwick and Ramapo, which can easily be destroyed.
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    Dmitar reacted to BroRando in 2034 and its significance...   
    2034 is only 13 years away, and 2030 is approaching even faster, being less than 9 years away. Mandates are coming to force individuals to bend the knee to serve Government as their 'god'.  Do what the government tells you to do or else.  The one sector that governments are having trouble reigning in is Religion.  
    The United Nations 2030 agenda is for world peace and security. As the UN utterly fails in this attempt, they will see Religion in its way. They will spew their propaganda that they failed because religion refuses to accept their 2030 agenda.  Today, the King of the North is already moving against religions that are not approved by their State.  We can expect shortly after 2030, the King of the South (Anglo-America) to join forces with the King of the North in having State sanctioned religions. 
    The four state sanctioned religions in Russia toady are Catholicism, Judaism, Islam, and Buddhism.  All these religions are represented by idolatry and temples made by hands they can easily be destroyed.
    So what is the difference between the one true religion and these false ones?  "Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him." (John 4:23)
    Are there mandates today that simulate interment camps? YES. It's called Academia.  It teaches, or for a better term (brainwashes) it's captive audience that God is non-existent, that the system of things came into existence through a mere explosion, that your parents are monkeys and apes as taught by the theory of evolution which is hidden under the disguise of racism.  Not to mention CRT.  
    The 2030's are going to become very difficult... so much so the bible states, "In those days people will seek death but will by no means find it, and they will long to die, but death will flee from them." Revelation 9:6
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    Dmitar reacted to Pudgy in 2034 and its significance...   
    "It just goes to show you. It's always something. If it's not one thing, it's another." - Roseanne Roseannadanna
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    Dmitar reacted to Pudgy in 2034 and its significance...   
    Dead, or very seriously wrinkled.
    Every day, I try to smush a large bug ... then Ah has da edge!
     
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    Dmitar reacted to Pudgy in 2034 and its significance...   
    Yeah ... that boat sailed a LONG time ago, and scaremongering is now painfully obvious, except to the terminally dull.
    Besides .... the Scripture clearly warns against EXACTLY what BroRando is doing, referring to such ones as false prophets.
    Painfully obvious, and painfully transparent.
    At least, it appears he is not collecting money for his Yosemite Sam act.
    If he is ... I hope he is getting it in Pudgycoin.
    Remember the Pudgycoin motto! - "Pudgycoin, the digital currency for those who can't tell the difference!" (tm)
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in 2034 and its significance...   
    Oh dear another doom and gloom picture, to frighten people. It looks like something from a scary movie  
    And oh dear again. BR in back on the 1914 horse, but I think that horse died long ago. 
    And now 2034 is no longer THE year, but a beginning of something ? 
    And the 120 years of Noah ? Guessing again by putting thoughts into scriptures that God never put there. 
    BR, it seems you are a scare monger wanting attention for yourself. 
    Shame I'll never know, as I will be long dead before 2034 .  
     
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    Dmitar reacted to BroRando in 2034 and its significance...   
    2034 and its significance...
    2034 has a dual significance of several Bible Prophecies that will begin to unfold in the near future. One of those prophecies are in response to the 'short period of time' Satan has, known as the Last Days. "Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing that he has a short period of time." (Rev 12:12) 2034 doesn't represent the beginning of this period but rather the end of it. The Last Days would come to a close as the allotted time is exhausted giving a full witness to the earth's inhabitants. "And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come." (Matthew 24:14)
    That End is not the end of the world, but rather the End of an Age of Wickedness. An Explanation from The Watchtower Magazine, December 15, 2003, Pages 14 - 19 entitled "Warned of “Things Not Yet Beheld” The issuance of this divine decree in 2490 B.C.E. marked the beginning of the end for that ungodly world. Just think what that meant for those then living! Only 120 years more and Jehovah would bring “the deluge of waters upon the earth to bring to ruin all flesh. What about us? Some 90 years have passed since the last days of this system of things began in 1914. We are certainly in “the time of the end.” (Daniel 12:4)
    Could the Great Tribulation occur soon after 2034? It is possible that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ was referring to the Great Tribulation as an allotment period of time. Why? Jesus explains to his followers, "Moreover, just as it occurred in the days of Noah, so it will be in the days of the Son of man:" (Luke 17:26) Weren't the days of Noah 120 years in length? (Genesis 6:3) This period (1914 + 120 yrs =2034) is a conclusion of the system of things. Read more...   What does tribulation mean?
    Definition of tribulation : distress or suffering resulting from oppression or persecution
    also : a trying experience   'Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing that he has a short period of time.' (Rev 12:12) Are we not in distress and suffering resulting from oppression or persecution especially since 1914? The Last Days began in 1914, but could 2034 mark the end of the Last Days? It could...
    The short period of time would not be an exhaustive amount of time that would seem to go on and on and on. The Scriptures point out that Satan recognizes that this allotment of time to be a short period of time. 2034 would not only represent the end of Satan's Wicked Rule, but would also mark Christ Millennial Reign poised to begin. Therefore, it makes sense that the Sealing of the 144,000 would be completed prior to the end of the Last Days in 2034.   Notice this teaching from the Apostle Paul, "For God is my witness of how I am longing for all of you with such tender affection as Christ Jesus has. And this is what I continue praying, that your love may abound still more and more with accurate knowledge and full discernment; that you may make sure of the more important things, so that you may be flawless and not stumbling others up to the day of Christ;" (Philippians 1:8-10)   2034 is not an end all date, by this time Satan and his demons will have gathered the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty. (Rev 16:14) A host of other prophecies begin to emerge. For instance, the separation work of the sheep and goats begin. Jesus would grant Life to the Great Crowd whom he chooses as his sheep. They would be marked to be Survivors during the short respite period of peace. They simply continue living during the condition or situation of Armageddon that forms at (Psalms 2:2) and (1 Thessalonians 5:3) and become Survivors of the Last Days. Once the Day of Christ does begin, no harm will be allowed to come upon the faithful as the wicked die off.
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Judge orders stay of Jehovah's Witnesses constitutional claim on privacy of records   
    Here in England I used the Data Protection Act to get printed documents concerning ME, that of my Medical Records from my GP, and that of my personal information concerning my time (in the 1960's) in a Children's Home that was government run.
    I wanted more information concerning the employees and management of the Children's Home, and I was told to use the Freedom Of Information Act, to gain more information. However I was told that this extra information would not be mailed to me, and that I would have to visit an office and read through a large amount of files to be able to gain the information. Even then I would not be allowed to take photos or take notes on the files I read.  
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