Dmitar

Authority given to then by WHOM ?  Not from God or Christ. 
Remember it was JESUS that said ALL AUTHORITY HAS BEEN GIVEN TO ME IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH. 
And do you think Jesus has handed over that authority to the JW Org ? 

I get my news from the Babylon Bee ….. or The Onion. It’s biting satire, yes, but it has a basis in truth. MSN and CNN can screw up a Farm Report.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/twitter-boss-bitcoin-will-unite-the-world-and-bring-world-peace/ar-AAN8UH5?li=BBoPRmx
I put this up here purely as a bit of fun. But I thought a couple of things were coincidental to bible prophicy. 
Twitter co-founder and CEO Jack Dorsey has claimed that bitcoin will “unite a deeply divided country” amid debate about a controversial crypto amendment on a $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill.
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Speaking at a bitcoin event last month, Mr Dorsey made a similarly bold claim by suggesting that the cryptocurrency has the power to bring about world peace. 
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Mr Dorsey previously speculated that such an eventuality would come about after bitcoin becomes the “single currency” of the world, which he believes could take place in less than 10 years.
World Peace in about Ten years ?  Like i say, I put it here for a bit of fun.  It's MSN news  

God talked directly to Jim Jones and David Koresh as well.

Confusing, isn't it!

So they are not inspired by the holy spirit, Jehovah is by passing the Holy Spirit and Jesus and speaking directly to them?

G. Losch said: "We are rowing".

In 2017, the same - Open club and JW members had Closed club. But people, JW people too, participate very much in Open club, because it is more interesting :))

Lett:  “We have no authority to give our opinion on matters.  We have to make sure that when we speak, that what we say is “sodily” based on the scriptures and what’s been provided by the faithful slave."
When he says, “we”, he is not including himself or the rest of the GB members, but only his audience. JWs have NO AUTHORITY to give THEIR opinion on what is provided by the faithful slave.  Scripture doesn’t matter, since proving scripture that conflicts with their teaching leads to disfellowshipping.
“Sodily”, hmm.
Woe to the sinful nation,
    a people whose guilt is great,
a brood of evildoers,
    children given to corruption!
They have forsaken the Lord;
    they have spurned the Holy One of Israel
    and turned their backs on him.
Daughter Zion (anointed "Israel") is left
    like a shelter in a vineyard,
like a hut in a cucumber field,
    like a city under siege. - Rev 13:5-10; 16:13,14; 20:7-9
 Unless the Lord Almighty
    had left us some survivors,
we would have become like Sodom,
    we would have been like Gomorrah.
 Hear the word of the Lord,
    you rulers of Sodom;
listen to the instruction of our God,
    you people of Gomorrah!
 “The multitude of your sacrifices—
    what are they to me?” says the Lord.
“I have more than enough of burnt offerings,
    of rams and the fat of fattened animals;
I have no pleasure
    in the blood of bulls and lambs and goats.
 When you come to appear before me,
    who has asked this of you,
    this trampling of my courts?
See how the faithful city
    has become a harlot!
She once was full of justice;
    righteousness used to dwell in her—
    but now murderers!
Zion will be delivered with justice,
    her penitent ones with righteousness.
 But rebels and sinners will both be broken,
    and those who forsake the Lord will perish.  Isa 1
"I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshipers. 2 But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months. 3 And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.” 4 They are “the two olive trees” and the two lampstands, and “they stand before the Lord of the earth.”  (Zech chapter 4)
Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them. 8 Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city—which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt—where also their Lord was crucified. "  Rev 11
The second beast was given power to give breath ("spirit-directed") to the image ("Jehovah's organization") of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.  Rev 13:15
"second beast" (Rev 13:11)  Then the angel said to me, “The waters you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages.  Rev 17:15
 
Then I heard another voice from heaven say:
“‘Come out of her, my people,’
    so that you will not share in her sins,
    so that you will not receive any of her plagues;
5 for her sins are piled up to heaven,
    and God has remembered her crimes.
6 Give back to her as she has given;
    pay her back double for what she has done.
    Pour her a double portion from her own cup.
7 Give her as much torment and grief
    as the glory and luxury she gave herself.
In her heart she boasts,
    ‘I sit enthroned as queen.
I am not a widow;
    I will never mourn.’
8 Therefore in one day her plagues will overtake her:
    death, mourning and famine.
She will be consumed by fire,
    for mighty is the Lord God who judges her.  Rev 18:4-8

Jesus himself said he did not speak from his own initiative, but only what the Father had taught him, or told him to say. 
The GB must speak from their own initiative as they are not guided by God's holy Spirit. 
The things Jesus taught came true or are still coming true.
The things that the leaders of CCJW have taught over the many years have not come true and have proved to be false. 

When I joined in 2016, it was an open club.  I remember the Librarian told me that everyone was allowed to "have their say".  Now that it is closed, maybe that has changed.  Maybe I am on the "soon to be removed" list.  

If the GB want to show that they are aware of their "own limitations" (like S. Lett's Jesus), then, the JW’s should only have one 10 minute lecture (basically reading the Bible text) per week or month in the assembly and the rest of the time they should sing and laugh.

And only one issue of WT magazine in a year. Preferable would be Awake with articles about animal and nature to praise Creator .
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It’s 2 minutes long.  I suggest listening to it twice.  Notice the undertones of ridicule directed against the “auTHORity” of Jesus Christ.   See if you detect the exemplified authority of the GB, placed on the same level as God’s word.  And how Jesus was aware of his “limitations”, not having authority “to teach others things that originated in his own mind”.  But this man? He displays no humble attitude before God’s Son.   Even though the GB persists in fabricating deception originating from THEIR minds, you are made aware that they are above and beyond such limitations! 
Honestly, JWs.  This is a man who told lies about the organization’s problem with child abuse. Now, he is blatantly exalting himself above Christ and his authority.  If any of you believe you will receive eternal life by “sticking close” to this false christ/prophet, and not Jesus Christ, I fear for your lives.  Will you continue to look the other way and excuse his and all of the GB’s actions, thinking that God will correct them?  God looks at us individually and views OUR choice to serve Him and His Son, or to serve men who expect obedience to them.  (Joel 3:14)
“Beware of the teachers of the law. They like to walk around in flowing robes and love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and have the most important seats in the synagogues and the places of honor at banquets. 47 They devour widows’ houses and for a show make lengthy prayers. These men will be punished most severely.”  Luke 20:46,47
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.” Matt 7:15 
“Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.”  Col 2:8
“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’  Matt 7:21-23
 
Then the Lord said to me, “The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and the delusions of their own minds.  Jer 14:14
 
 
 

You keep pushing just like a bully in a school playground. "Do this, do that. I told you this, I told you that". No love, no thoughtfulness, just harshness. A Truther, with no heart. So be it.  
I suppose one thing that the JWs teach makes sense. "Don't argue, just walk away.  It doesn't matter what the enemy thinks, it only matters that you are pleasing God through Christ".   
A Truther singular. Don't misquite me. It was aimed at YOU, no one else. 

We are all so different in personalities…( thank goodness) aruana you are fine the way you are…I would happily share a cell with you…I hope some of your answers as I hope all of us here…….have helped some one tuning in or perhaps that has been hurt or stumbled unfairly or wrongly..or simply know nothing about Jehovah’s witnesses….but it is a waste of time in talking with certain ones that’s for sure…and who has the energy in these last days or this period of time we live in….I’m tuning back in because SM has come back…and the quality of conversation has been lifted…pity he couldn’t be included in the JW Club….but he’s too honest to appear as an  alias….

Thank you for calling me good Tom. 
I have not listened to Br. Splanes talk yet, we were away and did not get to that part yet. Just getting around to watching the first part of the Daniel drama. But I have heard what it's about since when we got back home we joined our Saturday FS group as usual, this time for a review of the Saturday afternoon session. My hubby and I sat there like two numpties, since we had nothing to say. I did try and bluff though by looking down as if at my notes, lol. But I don't think anyone was fooled because usually we answer several times. Anyway, I look forward to listening to the talk, no doubt accompanied by accusatory sideways glances from my husband. I was thinking about you during the FS discussion, wondering what Tom thought of the talk....

Back on topic. Because the original topic was not ALL ABOUT 'nails and hands'. It was about Translations of the Bible.
However some on here didn't like that so they deliberately diverted the topic. 

SM you write so much and repeat so much that is all becomes one big blurr. Like a train rattling along a railroad track. 
 
You see this. Do you see your attitude here ? Do you not get the sense that you are a bully ?  Are you so blind ?
And that is why they were not answered. Because they were so obvious that it would have been a waste of time answering them.  That isn't debate, that is stupidity. 
 

Nothing at all wrong with you in my book, though I am surprised at the extent to which you lock horns with people who have proven conclusively for many months, even years, that they are not going to budge one iota.
Just above this comment, Patiently Sitting on my Hands wants you to “prove” something or other. The point is, it doesn’t work that way. “Prove to yourself” is how Romans 12:1 puts it, and he must prove it to himself, which he has abundantly demonstrated that Christendom’s hell will freeze over before that happens. 
“Taste and see Jehovah is good,” Ps 34:8 says, and for us, Jehovah comes part and parcel with his earthly organization. He has tasted and seen that he and it is bad—even the Name he discards. How can you “prove” to someone that their tastebuds are bad? If they don’t like it, they don’t like it.
I do sometimes comment where the bad boys and girls hang out, but it is usually in the sense of talking past them to the audience beyond who may be influenced by them. But when there is no other audience beyond other than ones exactly like them, then it seems you run the risk of violating Jesus’ counsel to leave blind guides be.
Lately I’ve been drawing away from this side of the forum in favor of the one where whatever you say is not instantly hurled back in your face with a very few arguments that you can answer till you’re blue in the face but they never change—they just repackage them and run them through again. Who would have thought that good @Annawould have provided respite? I was leaning this way even before Bro Spane’s talk—which is just a restatement of the same—and he just put more icing on the cake. 
Oh—and you’re a little given toward conspiratorial things, but that’s not a minus in my book. I appreciate the extra viewpoint. I don’t necessarily hold with it all, but on the other hand, it might turn out exactly that way.
Seriously, you are always welcomed for your insights on the closed forum and you won’t find fierce resistance to every syllable you utter.
 

Adam was perfect, no one on this forum is perfect.  I would also like you to prove this accusation of people on this forum 'promoting disobedience to God'. 
The fact that you and many others believe that the Watchtower / JW Org 'are God's people', does not in itself prove that they are God's people. 
If you are refering to me, i am not concerned with 'getting a reaction' from anyone. I am interested in open debate.
Also, I do not equate all JWs to be alike.  That would be doing the same as some on here do about Ex-JWs. 
I do however think that all JWs believe the same things regarding their religion, otherwise why are they JWs ?  How could they preach and teach if they did not believe the same things ? 

Thanks for honesty!  I am South African - we always come over strong-like.  I do not get emotional about anything at all ( it may look that way), when he and those with hate-OCD say untrue things or accuse.  I recognize it for what it is - a useless exercise against Jehovah and his people!

Because of how he can get a reaction out of you, and equates all JWs to be alike. He did not only do this with you, but to others, we the had the one instance with the JW teen, another with Allen, etc. - thus having a broken perception of things.
That being said, I, as do some, deal with such persons constantly, one sided, mainly when they know their err and soon expound on accusations without evidence or merit. Which is pretty much a shame, and downright embarrassing. All in all, it proves the point made many, many times.

What is wrong with me?  please say honestly.  I will not take offence.....  I unfortunately do not have patience with those who have PROVEN themselves enemies of God.  These are not innocent people who have been misled.  They promote disobedience to God... their sin seems to be equal to that of Adam!

This is what it has come too….I am also at that point…as hard as it is..when the subject now comes up…when I hear such ignorance spouted…even with genuines behind such sayings…..the wisest thing to do now…is to keep silent for the sake of peace between us all….having said that there is a few of us older ones who have been around the block in the truth a number of times…speaking quietly to each other…in hushed tones….who would have thought hey!
 

This is why I am careful not to get into squabbles over it. I may post something that seems to me of substance, but if people disagree, I do not get into it.