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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Like the Days of Noah...   
    http://www.internationalbiblestudents.org/
    Who are the Bible Students?"
    The association of International Bible Students has existed continuously since the days of Pastor Charles Taze Russell to the present. In Brother Russell's day, the IBSA was a cooperative association of Bible Student congregations worldwide, all united by the common beliefs taught in Brother Russell's Studies in the Scriptures series. The Watchtower was merely a publishing house and lecture service, with NO central control over these thousands of associated, but independent congregations.
    I presume this is out of date then ? 
     
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    Dmitar reacted to Pudgy in Which method of execution is accurate and true? A or B?   
    …… I can understand that, my thumbs are halfway up the backside of my fore-legs.
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    Dmitar reacted to Thinking in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    Can you please expand on this explanation…as to what we as a people dont quiet..or deeply understand..as to the UN…I think I have an idea but I’d really like you to spell it out for me…
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    Dmitar reacted to Witness in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    What are JWs putting their faith in?  Many leave the organization and find their faith in the Father and the Son has blossomed.  They grow in their love for them.  They gain knowledge of God's word.  They experience a closeness to the Father and Jesus Christ that they never had before.
    So, what part are JWs taking in this war?  They are putting up a "hard fight" for their faith in an organization and men who lord it over them.  (Rom 1:25; Rev 13:4; 2 Thess 2:9-12)
     
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    Dmitar reacted to Witness in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    Yes the last words of his talk were…
    “False rumors are often spread during wartime. Brothers, this is war. We need to put up a hard fight for the faith as if our life depended on it — because it does! “
    And this is the war that will continue, until the Wt. is gone. (Matt 24:6)  Every JW believes they are spiritually “safe” within the organization. (1 Thess 5:3)  Anyone who exits, becomes the “apostate” - they can’t be trusted, they are the liars, and liars must be silenced.  Truth, must be silenced within the Wt. So, it is God who has rejected those who leave, because they reject the teachings of men guaranteed to fail?  THIS is the decision-making war of Armageddon; and the underlying reason that “this is war”, has to do with trampling of God’s anointed/Temple by the full leadership. The GB directs the elders to silence the anointed.    (Joel 3:1-14;1 Cor 11:19; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Luke 21:24; 2 Thess 2:3,4,7-10; Rev 11:2; Dan 8:13; Jer 12:10; Rev 13:1,2,5-7, 11,12,15)
    Since Splane expounded on this war, it should be clear that Armageddon has nothing to do with the UN, Russia or Christendom…obviously! These political and religious entities are not  Watchtower’s greatest threat.  How can they be, when they’ve shared the same bed together?  (now, we’re finding out that they are donating donated money to politicians…’robbing from the poor and giving to the rich’ to support wt’s platform.)
    The organization’s threat comes from those who were once among them, who now see their lies and sins, and lay them bare for all JW,s and the world to hear. Not good for business in the corporate world! 
    Yet their greater threat is the exposure of lawlessness enacted against the “city that is called by My name” – the members of God’s Temple in the anointed. (Isa 43:10; 1 Pet 2;5,9) If only they would wake up, repent, and leave their captivity to lies behind.  (2 Chron 7:14; Jer 25:29; Isa 1:4-9; Rom 9:31-33; Col 2:8; Rev 18:4-8,10)
    From Proverbs 21 - 
    A proud attitude, accompanied by a haughty look, is sin;
        they reveal wicked people. 4
    A fortune gained by deceit
        is a fleeting vapor and a deadly snare. 6
    The soul of the wicked craves evil;
        he extends no mercy to his neighbor. 10
    The Righteous Onetakes note of the house of the wicked
        and brings the wicked to ruin. 12
    When justice is done, it brings joy to the righteous
        but terror to evildoers. 15
    One who is wise can go up against the city of the mighty
        and pull down the stronghold in which they trust. 22
    The proud and arrogant person—“Mocker” is his name—
        behaves with insolent fury. 24
    A false witness will perish,
        but a careful listener will testify successfully.28
    The wicked put up a bold front,
        but the upright give thought to their ways.29
     There is no wisdom, no insight, no plan
        that can succeed against the Lord.30
     The horse is made ready for the day of battle,
        but victory rests with the Lord.31
     
    Wars to Cease
     
     
     
     
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    Promoting your books again. It seems that is all you are here for. 
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    Dmitar reacted to TrueTomHarley in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    This is the reason that I could not have chosen a better title or cover than I did for TrueTom vs the Apostates!
    https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/917311
    I wrote it for those friends who have come across something apostate that stumbled them and thereafter no one in the congregation was able to help them much because nobody knew just what they had come across. I wrote if for them. Nobody else is allowed to read it.
    It is war—I’ll go with the analogy, but it is an unusual one. Usually in a war, the loyal participants under attack grab their guns and blast away. In this war, they are advised not to know what the enemy is up to. Not everyone can get their heads around it. For those who can’t, that’s why there is the book. 
    I can think of one exception, however, in which stopping up the ears was exactly the right course to take. This is when Odysseus was sailing past the island of the incredibly beautiful and seductive sirens who wanted to lure and destroy his ship upon the rocks of their island. Outsmarting them, Odysseus commanded that his men stuff their ears with beeswax so they couldn’t hear. However, he had himself bound to the mast, ears open, with strict instructions that no matter how much he pleaded, his men were to ignore him and row on.
    As they sailed past the island, sure enough, beautiful and seductive apostababes approached. They intertwined themselves around him, driving him mad with their sweet song of the delicious petty freedoms that could be his if only he would tell Zeus to kiss off. Though it would have deadened him for sure, Odysseus pleaded with his men to unbind him so he could destroy himself. But they couldn’t hear him.
     
     
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    Dmitar reacted to TrueTomHarley in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    The reason John Brown failed at Harper’s Ferry is that he raided Harper’s Ferry. There were more guns at Pudgy’s place.
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    Luke 22:36
    Berean Study Bible
    “Now, however,” He (Jesus) told them, “the one with a purse should take it, and likewise a bag; and the one without a sword should sell his cloak and buy one.   
    Yes I know that scripture is for entirely different reasons, but it seemed to fit well  '''
    Maybe ask @Pudgy what he thinks of guns ? I think he and 'Billy the Kid' might own a few.
    It must be terrible to actually live in those conditions though. Here in England it is more knives than guns but no doubt it will get worse.  If I find time I will try to listen to some of the 'new light' from the Org. 
     
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    Dmitar reacted to ApostaBabe Linda James in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    You would think so. But from what I have come to understand is, if JW's even attempt to judge the GB / Watchtower writers, that will automatically put them in the position of being viewed as one doubting that Jehovah God is using this organization. Unfortunately, this sort of questioning is not welcome as if they are going by the example of the Bereans by doing their due diligence when it comes to the rank-and-file members. No, It goes against what they have publicly declared to hundreds if not thousands during their baptism ceremony.
    Yes, members are baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, but within this public declaration, it also includes in their 2nd question confirming that they believe that this organization is the one that Jehovah is using. 
    If a member judges, scrutinizes or finds fault with any interpretation of the scriptures by the GB or Watchtower writings, that one could be considered "running ahead of the chariot." Reminded who taught them the truth in the first place? ( which in actuality, is a swift reprimanding statement that is pretty much saying, know your place kiddo, & how dare you question mother Org! ) this is if a member is getting kind feedback if they chose to go to the elders with any doubts. Otherwise that one is declared an apostate, and when that happens, it never turns out to be a good day. 
    From what I gather from this latest summer symposium is, if there are gang members in your neighborhood who are killing your neighbors and harassing your own son on a regular basis, it would be wrong to own a gun for the protection of your family and home. ( I Linda, am not advocating for whether or not anyone should own a gun. ) But on the other hand
    GB member, brother Splane has declared to the members, that we are at war [with them their apostates.]
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    apostate /əˈpɒsteɪt/ noun a person who renounces a religious or political belief or principle. abandoning a religious or political belief or principle. "an apostate Roman Catholic"   I do wish we could all be of some agreement as to what Apostate really means. 
    It seems some here think as I do, that it renounces a religious or political belief or principle.
    Whereas others think it is turning against God and Christ. 
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    Two points.  
    @Witness said.
    And your reply was
    So are you now admitting that it is people that LEAVE THE ORG that are apostates OF THE ORG ?  
    NOT turning against God or Christ, because that is the second point. 
    You say " modern-day apostates have gone the atheist route ".
    So you are saying that you KNOW that most people who are apostate to JW Org are now atheist. That's a big accusation.
    However in reality you don't even know how many are still serving God or how many are not. You just have your own agenda and write things to suit it. 
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    Dmitar reacted to Witness in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    This is what I can give you.  https://speakoutinfearlessness.blogspot.com/2021/07/watchtower-of-jehovahs-witnesses.html?fbclid=IwAR1wyzf4vYeWVirn52OYeRnPz2dAy1r0lQnwxbJ4kCczdtFV1DTSu9ehQHo
    I went to followthemoney.org after seeing your post and came up with the same info as in the video.  But, by the powers that be, any reference to the Watchtower Society is now gone.  Take from it what you will.  The organization has hidden its sins, its hypocrisy...its true dealings in the world, for a number of years, and it will continue to make a hard effort to do so, until God exposes every crack in its walls.  No longer will they be able to whitewash over them.  Ezekiel 13
     
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    (now, we’re finding out that they are donating donated money to politicians…’robbing from the poor and giving to the rich’ to support wt’s platform.)
    I think you need to give full details of this if you are making this a serious accusation.  Or at least give us a link or reference to be able to 'check it out' 
    My feeling about the CSA situation and that 25 year Pedophile Database (information of which seems to have gone very quiet of late) is they someone is being paid off to keep it all quiet. If your accusation is correct then I'd like to know the details. But right now I will keep an open mind about it. 
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    Now this is interesting because the GB of the JW org say they are the F&DS and they say they are 'guided' by God. 
    One would think that if the Watchtower / JW Org was God's chosen organisation then the Leaders would have known as much as you did back then. In fact they should have known even more, and should have known before you did.  Then they should have protected their own people, rather than leave them there to suffer. 
    Tell me, these rare few that know so much more than everyone else. Are they guided by God or men ? 
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    You have all deliberately avoided the point. Although James did give it a good shot.
    Don't JWs have to judge the credibility of the GB / Watchtower writers ? 
    My point was that surely a Bible should say EXACTLY what it means. IF 'certain people' think they have 'special insight', then surely those 'certain people' are responsible for giving a TRUE translation of God's word. 
    I used one small scripture as an example. But if by that one scripture it can be shown that the translation is not a TRUE one, then how can the translation be trusted ? 
    Pudgy here says it does not matter. But if i remember rightly, the GB through it's Watchtower magazine, have said that JWs will be given instruction 'that might not make sense', but that JWs are to obey that instruction anyway.
    So credibility does matter. It matters to the point of life or death according to the GB. It certainly mattered in bible times for those very reasons. 
    But if such people cannot even produce a truthful honest translation of God's word, then how can they be trusted with you life ?  
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    Dmitar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    Well yes. you and James always were in agreement. 
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    Dmitar reacted to Pudgy in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    Was he above, or below the Equator?
    He might have been using a left-handed soldering gun.
     
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    Dmitar reacted to TrueTomHarley in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    And if you truly want to advance an idea as scholarly, you do not quote Wikipedia as your source.
    It’s like when I traveled to visit a friend and found him in college lab, working on repairing a centrifuge. He fretted ever so hard with his soldering gun, but it just wasn’t coming out. Finally, he looked at the sorry result and said, “Well—this might be okay for the toilet, but it doesn’t quite cut it for a centrifuge.”
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    Dmitar reacted to Pudgy in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    ... I might have second thoughts if someone advocated Duct Tape.
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    Dmitar reacted to TrueTomHarley in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    Ah. Now I see I have said the same as what @Pudgyjust said, only with less color.
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    Dmitar reacted to TrueTomHarley in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    Come come. Add hypersensitivity to the list.
    Jesus nailed through the hands or wrists? That’s your crisis of faith that causes you to patiently wait?
    Who cares? If he was shot with a gun it wouldn’t change the meaning & results of his death, and that’s what you should focus on.
     
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