Amidstheroses

Evidence is hard facts.  "Suggests" is not reality.  If we are in Jehovahs love,  He protects those He loves. But at times we may be tested like Job....but the outcome of Job is far better. He had more than he ever had before... ten more children, wealth... and in the resurrection ten more resurrected kids . .   We must not be like Job's friends and ascribe an uncaring attitude to Jehovah. Jehovah knows what loyal love is . . And He is always loyal.... we do not because we stumble and waver.   Jehovah even gave wicked kings victory in battle because of loyalty.... when they definitely did not deserve anything from Him.

Lol- the ones who describe themselves as "good " always win. 
But as Jesus said- there is only One that is good. ... and in the  world of reality - thankfully Jehovah and his moral standards of what truly is good... that will prevail.

As we speak they are planning and working towards these goals but I never said they would attain them. When they turn against religion things will start to fall apart....their death star, Babylon ... whatever name you call it.... it will fall apart and jehovah will step in before all flesh dies off (animals included) and food and forests are genetically destroyed. Jehovahs  purpose will prevail!!

I guess you would like me to delete the scriptures about the beast with the seven heads which is about world empires and human governments that ruled over Jehovah's people....
I guess you would like me to scratch out the "image of the beast" from my bible so I live in darkness about what they are up to.   NO- in my opinion it was given to us as a sign where we are in the stream of time. 
I guess I must ignore the scriptures at Revelation 16:13 - 16 which indicates that unclean "expressions" come out of the mouth of the false prophet and the world-wide beasly political system and leads all kings to Armageddon - propaganda.
I can go on and on.  What is the main themes of the bible,
1. ransom sacrifice provided by Jesus
2. Adam and eve chose independent rule from god  and make their own governments (politics) and also chose their own morality of good and bad.  Can humans rule the earth successfully without god  and godly morality?  The final battle between human governments 666 is on its way with Jehovah and his king in the final battle. ..... heavenly rulership or earthly rulership.  Where do we put our allegiance? 
Many of the visions seen by Daniel is about rulerships and the timeline of earthly rulerships - until the 7th head (Anglo-American).  I cannot imagine Daniel ignoring the fact that Babylon was ruling over the nation of Israel. He even discerned when they would return. The 3 men refused to worship their God and bow down to it.  Today we know who is ruling and who is expected to be the 8th king for one hour.......and what they are doing but are you informed enough to know to what you are going to be showing homage to?  Many churches have already accepted the new "morality" given them by the political rulers - are you?
 
 

Everything in secular society has been politicised at present.  For example, if you do not  like "worldly morality"  now pushed by the UN,  you are easily branded politically with various kinds of labels. The world is totally sick as they are already dividing people in white or black, vaccinated or unvaccinated,  minority or non- minority, and so forth. 
Hitler viewed JWs as anti- government because they refused in 1933 to salute  his name in a hallowed way.  Whether you are political or not.... you will soon be brandished with a political  brush- no matter how Neutral you are.
Jesus said to Pontius- my kingdom is no part of the world - but they went ahead and put on his stake - "king of the jews".  How political is that!  
Neutrality on our part does not mean that you will not be maliciously branded as political somehow.... so surely you understand that. They accused jesus falsely..... so do you really think they will not accuse JWs falsely?.
To know what is going on around you regarding transhumanism and how it is linked to the UN and WEF goals does not make one an activist- especially if you sit on the sidelines and allow them to play their games.  I watch from a distance... i inform close friends about what is going on and only on this forum.  But i have never encouraged anyone to try to actively oppose what they are doing. I abhor their decadence but will only actively promote jehovahs kingdom as a solution for this problem.
We do nothing and do not get involved in their goals but like in the time of WW2 - we will have to choose if we willingly participate or not.  That is the choice each individual has

We do know this: Jehovah will allow them to go quite far to dismantle his creation but he will not allow them to destroy it all...... just like JOB.  His life was spared and afterward he was blessed. We too will see salvation and the promises that Jehovah has given us on the restoration of the earth. 

The “System” as it is now has enough momentum and inertia that all the things you foresee cannot happen for at least 80 years.
You have your opinion, and I have my opinion, and all people have at least five bodily orifices.
Either way, Arauna, before any of this happens, both you and I will be safely ….. dead.

The future for the world now (the UN has negotiated with all nations secretly and are to vote in May - to get world dominion - one vote for Africa for example will include all African nations. It may be postponed again until (next year) or they have the entire ruling structure in place but they are building it.  They just appointed their head scientist or head transhumanist to lead the science team for the UN. The negotiations have NOTHING in it about keeping people healthy and happy - it is all about control and money to build the new Babylon.
They have removed the clause about human rights - there are no human rights in our future. It will be a world where science is worshipped and if one does not worship the new science regime you will be sent for psychological re-education or liquidation.
The bible is clear - they will persecute those who do not worship this new world power.  They have started to degrade humans to animals = the food supply is deliberately broken down so we will have to eat bugs, blood products made also with human stem cells. We will drink recycled urine.  One will not be able to buy food if you do not worship/blindly obey the UN. (The prodigal son ate with the pigs but it was real food). Our food will have artificial chemicals with the metals which our new genetic make-up will be able to absorb and build in to antennas to communicate with the internet of things/bodies.
To them we are equal to animals = with no recourse when they use experimental science on our genes..... in our food, in all our medicine and "pricked" into you at regular intervals to turn one into a cyborg. We are the experiment to be used until they have perfected their methods to get everlasting life in their own "singularity".... they do not think that one EMP bast from Jehovah can destroy their whole system.  Their hubris is equal to Satan's - if not more.
This to me is worse than those highly entertaining sci-fi movies we saw in the 60s and 70s.  These technocratic transhumanists do not believe in god and grew up with these ideologies as their only spiritual food while pursuing these highly lucrative careers with each new hidden patent.  They are psychopathic in their quest to reach their goals and they have no respect for human life.
They are also communicating with "aliens" though quantum computers - or so they say.  These computers reach a point where one can communicate with other realms - so they say.  Where does reality stop and the other realms begin! So they have crossed these barriers and I would give you a good guess who they are communicating with - just like the Third Reich had their castles where their leaders had seances to discover the darker sciences.  It is not strange that scientists who do not believe in God always become spiritists!
No wonder they are destroying the earth and destroying Jehovah's creation to bring their own plans to fruition.  They are degrading the planet with their geoengineering.... yes it has been going on since 1957 and their chemicals in the air are now destroying forests and drying out root systems - everything!  They are desperate to fix it now and are keeping us in the dark about the severe state of the environment - caused by their stealth application of their "sciences." Now they want to dim the sun in a kind of fake volcanic eruption to darken the earth from the suns rays.
Humans are being degraded as they now are property of those who have already started the gene editing.  Soon they want to use us for their new system as energy sources.  Does this sound like a horror sci-fi movie?   This is what they are planning and working towards.... and humankind will suffer more than ever before, before Jehovah brings Armageddon.  They have been emboldened in the past two years. Do not be fooled by the beautiful reasons they will give to us to worship only them and their new system they are building.
Sounds like a "death star" they are building. Large and magnificent in scope, run by power driven people. We know the outcome of star wars.  Thank goodness the good ones win - after all we have the most powerful "good" power on our side!

Obviously the person opening the topic does have an opinion about AI, even if he is not fully informed.
I agree - Jehovah is the only one that can tell us what to do.  NO AI  or any other intelligence or artificial intelligence should have any control over our faculties - just like drugs or any other substance should not interfere with our free will to worship Jehovah.  We must be sober and in control of our faculties so we can give Satan an answer by showing integrity by our free will.

The only intelligence humanity needs, comes from God, not man made. Therefore, the poster's assertion about the governing body is implying, God is not wise to use men as he has done throughout human history for God's purpose on earth, and rather have artificial intelligence take its place. An intelligence driven by men, thus serving men.
If people agree to that here, then there is definitely something faulty about that logic.

Well, I have heard it said that these days the difference between conspiracy theories and reality is 6 months.

True - I just listened to an ex-WHO top member (whistleblower) and she went into all the details of how they have broken all international laws and how they are doing a blatant power grab.  As a scientist she says she never saw God in everything but after looking at the paperwork and how they are negating everything that is good, reasonable and ethical she says that one can only describe it as evil.... and she says people are just too naïve to think that they could not do these things. 
It is making the unbelievers think about God when they realize how bad things are going to become. 
Jesus was killed by conspiracy; Caesar was killed by a conspiracy; Guy Fawkes led a conspiracy against the British parliament....... but suddenly when one questions the logic of the lies, gaslighting and deceit - one is branded a far right, tin foil hat conspiracy theorist....... except for the theme of the bible we would be in the dark. 
Socker mums who question the new morality taught to 4 year old's in schools are put on a terrorist list....  BUT we expect Satan to use his minions to destroy everything Jehovah has created and destroy all sense of morality- so that Jehovah cannot save  people even if he wants to. To tamper with humans being humans, destruction of animals, natural seeds and put artificial DNA material into everything so that no flesh will survive or be able to procreate. They are even planning to put DNA bombs on us which can spread throughout the population.  It gets more and more shocking. 
It is NOT conspiracy - there is enough patents and paperwork to substantiate this. The only fact we do NOT know is this:  how long Jehovah will allow them to go on - until what point after they turn against religion and propagandize their brand of peace and security.  Next year they will inaugurate their brand of world religion when the "Abrahamic treaty" comes to fruition. (I think in august).  When this does not work they will abandon it and then openly and instantly force everyone to obey them.   This is my speculation on the "religion" matter. ... but we have to wait and see. 

I was no referring to the poster but to your words that human intelligence is needed to understand the Word of God. I was also not criticizing, just bringing attention to the fact that we should be more humble about the source of our understanding of God's word.  We do not need Jehovah's spirit to understand common sense or science or some worldly matters but I do think that we the help of God to understand the true message of the bible - the sacred secret of the kingdom and everything related to it.

Since I have forgotten who ‘poster’ is, should i introduce a character by the name of Pete Poster to take his place alongside Rolf Kramden?

By definition, an apostate is an immoral person. It goes toward the character of a person.
Adjective immoral - /ɪmˈɔɹəl/
1 Deliberately violating accepted principles of right and wrong
2 Not adhering to ethical or moral principles
Cheating is immoral
The investigation found immoral practices in handling public funds
They considered communism immoral
Thesaurus Synonym base Antonym moral Attribute morality Derived immorality Similar debauched degenerate degraded disgraceful dissipated dissolute fast libertine profligate riotous scandalous scrofulous shameful shocking wrong See also amoral evil non-moral unchaste unrighteous wicked
Something else that hasn't been discussed in the news is, were these two individuals actually baptized publishers or unbaptized publishers (associates). News media don't make that kind of distinction. They just assume, just because a person attends a church, they are dedicated church members.
The point is, it's a tragedy regardless of what their motives might have been.

Hmm! What makes you think that person hasn't? Or can it be just another trap. 🤣

Please don’t overthink things. People generally do well to act on their first instinct.

Unfortunately, you have no facts to back up your illogical false claims, other than try, to equate them with unsound thoughts. That just means, the poster is not a good debater, just a hater.

Ten seconds later I got the widows/windows thing.
Not bad.
Only took 44 years and ten seconds.

I dunno. Are you sure you didn’t mean there were only widows?

I’m with you on that ungrateful relative situation! Too many times I, also, have taken a ‘down and out’ woman into my home, only to be shocked at how they take advantage of it or have standards that I can’t handle in my home.

We all have our strengths, weaknesses, idiosyncrasies. You rather remind of “the Sons of Thunder” whom Jesus chose to be among the 12: James & John.

*** Insight, Vol. 2, p.91 ***
“Early in their ministry as apostles, Jesus gave the surname Boanerges (meaning “Sons of Thunder”) to John and his brother James. (Mr 3:17) This title certainly does not denote any soft sentimentality or lack of vigor but, rather, dynamism of personality. When a Samaritan village refused to receive Jesus, these “Sons of Thunder” were ready to call down fire from heaven to annihilate its inhabitants. Previously, John had tried to prevent a man from expelling demons in Jesus’ name. Jesus gave reproof and correction in each case.—Lu 9:49-56.
The two brothers on those occasions showed misunderstanding and, to a great extent, lacked the balance and the loving, merciful spirit that they later developed. Nevertheless, on these two occasions the brothers manifested a spirit of loyalty and a decisive, vigorous personality that, channeled in the right direction, made them strong, energetic, faithful witnesses. James died a martyr’s death at the hands of Herod Agrippa I (Ac 12:1, 2), and John endured as a pillar “in the tribulation and kingdom and endurance in company with Jesus” as the last living apostle.—Re 1:9.
When James and John apparently got their mother to request that they sit next to Christ in his Kingdom, they demonstrated an ambitious spirit that made the other apostles indignant. But it afforded Jesus a fine opportunity to explain that the one great among them would be the one who served the others. Then he pointed out that even He came to minister and to give his life a ransom for many. (Mt 20:20-28; Mr 10:35-45) However selfish their desire was, the incident reveals their faith in the reality of the Kingdom.“
Plus you provide more laughs than a barrel of monkeys. And don’t we need that in these ‘critical times hard to deal with?!
😱😭🤕🙏   😂😂🤣🤣

Well, I don’t know what they are. I do know I try to become all things to all people or whatever Paul said about that.

Basically, that means being agreeable and courteous, and trying to understand another’s viewpoint. 
One summer in Pittsburgh PA possibly 1978, a bunch of us from work went to this bar with no widows for lunch. I was first to reach the door and as I opened it this huge muscular drunk black guy with tattoos was in the doorway facing me. He says “Nobody likes me..” and I patted him on his shoulder and said “Welll, I can certainly understand that.”, and we had a nice 30 second conversation about sports something or another, blocking the doorway, while the people behind me audibly gasped, and anticipated a fight.
He left, and we went inside and had lunch, with two beers.
They talked about that for years!
Apparently, in the bar section of Liberty Avenue in downtown Pittsburgh, that was  not the normal outcome ……