Moise Racette

2 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

At the end of the day, it is early source vs later source. Early source always wins.

Diligent research is a must. However, when new forms of understanding ancient script are found, then, that translation gives the reader a better understanding of ancient writers. This is why the Watchtower relies on God's guidance, not man's.

3 hours ago, Witness said:

Do you realize that you are mocking Jesus Christ himself, who is our High Priest? Please read Hebrews 3:1-6, which describes the house/ sanctuary/Temple that God is building.  

  You are mocking every anointed one since the first century.  You are mocking the apostles/priests, who are the foundation of the spiritual temple of God. (Eph 2:20-22) If you are anointed, you are also mocking yourself!

Does this poster see the hypocrisy of the statement, when the poster is mocking Christ church?

7 hours ago, AnnaNana said:

I respect your expression of concern for God's sovereignty and name.

It is not an expression but an attribute.

(Galatians 6:7) 7 Do not be misled: God is not one to be mocked. For whatever a person is sowing, this he will also reap.
 

5 hours ago, AnnaNana said:

Satan was not cast out of heaven in 1914 either. He is not cast out until Jesus takes the throne, which isn't until after all the anointed are sealed.

5 hours ago, AnnaNana said:

He was not cast out in 1914 because the anointed had not yet been sealed, they had not finished that part of their witnessing. (If he had been cast out in 1914, then the scripture wouldn't have said "a short period of time" because from 1914 to present isn't a short period of time.

The poster was doing very well until the poster confused the sealing of the anointed. 1914 has nothing to do with that impact. Then again, there are several professed witnesses here that feel or are confused or plainly disregard 1914 as meaningful. Therefore, the true nature of 1914 escapes those here.

However, this poster has failed in many arguments to produce evidence of the absolute stance the poster has on the matter, or anyone willing to support this poster.

Since there was an actual recorded historical event on earth in 1914 that's undisputable, how does the poster know that war wasn't raging in the heavens as well?

4 hours ago, Witness said:

Claiming that God will heal the organization if He wants to, an organization built on the earth where Satan rules, and obviously influenced by the wickedness of Satan, requires scriptures that prove that this will happen. 

What this poster is saying, Jesus had no impact being on earth while Satan influence was around him to his disciples and the people willing to hear his message. Does that in any way make sense to the poster, since the poster just referenced when Satan spoke to Jesus and attempted to influence Jesus to give Satan homage just like you do to Pearl Doxsey.

So, to this poster, the first century churches should not be considered to be an example for people to model over.

I find this troubling since the poster professes to be Christian. 😬

27 minutes ago, AnnaNana said:

I value your gifts, the ones I can observe on here. You are zealous. You have endurance. You are engaging.

When one obeys God's command, then God's reward is great. We all have the ability to be God's children, which is God's greatest love to mankind. However, one cannot be a child of God from darkness.

30 minutes ago, AnnaNana said:

(Just out of curiosity, Moise, are you one of Jehovah's Witnesses? I notice you never quote from the New World Translation.

There is a saying about curiosity. I rarely use the NWT, since I have no willingness to abuse nor use God's name in vain. I find using God's name in arguments or debates, defiles God's sovereignty. A problem that even witnesses here have a problem with.

However, I agree the NWT is an excellent translation, even though there are witnesses here that believe the interlinear is not. They rather use outside sources, that have not kept up with new translation sources.

1 hour ago, AnnaNana said:

(Just out of curiosity, Moise, are you currently "serving" with the title of "elder"?)

Within God's true Org. There are many gifts afforded by God's Holy Spirit. This curiosity seems to equate that of @Space Merchant curiosity.

Why is everyone all of a sudden so curious, when my curiosity is none?

Rom. 12:6 Having gifts that differ according to the grace given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, pin proportion to our faith;
Rom. 12:7 if service, in our serving; the one who teaches, in his teaching;
Rom. 12:8 the one who exhorts, in his exhortation; the one who contributes, in generosity; the one who leads,6 with zeal; the one who does acts of mercy, with cheerfulness.

1Cor. 12:4 ¶ Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit;

1Pet. 4:10 As each has received a gift, use it to serve one another, as good stewards of God’s varied grace:

2Tim. 2:15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved,3 a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth.

2 hours ago, AnnaNana said:

Remember those who are taking the lead among you, who have spoken the word of God to you, and as you contemplate how their conduct turns out

Does this mean God has given this poster specific authority to judge imperfection? It appears, this poster is mindfully thinking the poster is perfect and has the same authority as Christ. Can you prove, this poster is the second coming of Christ, to Judge and disobey the will of God, when Jesus didn't?

This poster just like @Witness condemns the Organization and its members for the fault of imperfection that has befallen, as selected few. a few. Then the poster should condemn the poster for the same imperfection, unless the poster can prove being sinless?

I will await the proof.

5 hours ago, AnnaNana said:

but to them it is not granted.

This is true on the poster's behalf. Bible knowledge escapes the poster. Therefore, how can God's kingdom secret, be allowed by God to be tarnished by those that reject God's command?

This poster just like @Witness can't pick, and choose what they want out of scripture only to benefit themselves.

5 hours ago, AnnaNana said:

Jehovah God is My Shepherd

 

Yes! God is EVERY TRUE Christians Shepherd only if those Christians follow Christ Directions, which this poster does not.

Hebrews 13:17 17 Have confidence in your leaders and submit to their authority, because they keep watch over you as those who must give an account.

39 minutes ago, AnnaNana said:

"Thus Jehovah allowed the heart of Pharʹaoh king of Egypt to become obstinate, and he chased after the Israelites, while the Israelites were going out with confidence."

The good thing is no one is chasing the poster to enslave the poster. Therefore, the poster needs no confidence in being persecuted just like the poster is persecuting the GB, and it's Watchtower members, just like @Witness is doing. Another indication of being Anti-Christian and senseless anointed.

The poster can think and say anything the poster desires.

40 minutes ago, AnnaNana said:

I am a representative of Jehovah and an heir of the kingdom. I am not ashamed of my Lord and I know what belongs to him and what his assignment is for me and what is my inheritance. I will speak what my Lord gives me to speak. 

This would be incorrect. The poster cannot be a representative of God and blaspheme at the same time. The poster cannot even be considered a Christian while causing strife and division. 

Once again, if the poster believes as @Witness to be an anointed, then it's only in the mind of the beholder.

4 hours ago, Pudgy said:

To my surprise, last week somebody ACTUALLY showed up here last week in a downpour of red down votes using the screen name “Wally McNasty”!

Was that you, Moise?

6 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

Why not? I am the poster of poster of posters.

😂😂😂

On 1/29/2023 at 2:17 PM, AnnaNana said:

And I am deeply sorry for any pain that the organization caused you or anyone else.

DO NOT SPEAK FOR THE ORG! You're not a representative for the Watchtower. If you want to feel sorry, then feel sorry by your own accord. 

37 minutes ago, AnnaNana said:

Please don't misquote me, Moise.

No misquote. God has given people labels from the inception of time. The fact this poster has a problem with the Watchtower, its members, goes against the grain of scripture. I believe @Witness talked about adding or subtracting from scripture. 

Therefore, the posters false words stand as false!

@AnnaNana: 

Why should this poster be given the last word before the post is closed?

Jesus is the Messiah. He is also my friend, my king and my brother. He is a friend of all those who love Jehovah and obey Him.

 Jehovah is the One who decides whether a label is appropriate.

@Moise Racette: Glad to see the poster contradict the earlier message. This should tell the viewer NOT to take the poster seriously. 

Now the topic can be closed.

1 hour ago, Witness said:

Why did Paul say that?  Divisions were occurring among the body and in the congregation. He was stressing to them how important TRUTH was, to unify them.  He asked, "is Christ divided?"   Like I brought out in scriptures, the anointed ARE to be united under their Head, looking to him as their Master, as all of them SPEAK the same Truth in Christ

Oh! Is this poster losing a friend from the so-called anointed class? It's ironic. @AnnaNana just stated, there should be NO labels, even though scripture USES labels. Must be a @Pudgy thing.

2 hours ago, Matthew9969 said:

How about you go first, it seems you live in a van down by the river...which river would that be?

You must be thinking of French people. I don't hang around where apostates breathe. 

2 hours ago, Matthew9969 said:

For how much?:

Is this poster going to gamble? Then why criticize others!! 😂

11 minutes ago, AnnaNana said:

Having a man-made label or title doesn't matter to Jehovah. Being labeled "governing body" or "tax collector" or "elder" or "publisher" or "anointed" or "other sheep" or "worldly" or "prostitute" or "priest" or "marked" or "king" or "Jehovah's Witness" doesn't make somebody beloved to Jehovah or hated or faithful or disobedient. He is not partial. It's our actions and our heart that matter to Jehovah. 

So this obtuse ideology would suggest that this poster REBUKES the label of Jesus as the Messiah, and the apostles. Learn to think!!!

1 hour ago, Pudgy said:

I have the same dysfunction about not understanding the science behind what is “whole” blood as the Old Testament Jews.

I have the same dysfunction about not understanding the science behind what is “whole” blood as the New Testament 1st century Christians.

I'm glad to see you have no clue about the science behind new technology. 

Does this mean this poster is a vegetarian, and abstains from MEAT?

It's good this poster is on the same page of ignorance like that apostate. @AnnaNana

36 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

It was a minor curious thought because only after sometime I see the mannerism in response.

Understandable. To me, however, it's just a waste of time and effort to figure out whose who in this forum, when it's not important.

41 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

AM clearly said they will not obey Norwegian Government or any other government in the world.

The Watchtower will make adjustments when a government entity demands it, within reason. This poster's assertion that "they will not obey" is a false equivalency.

44 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

When speaking about: ...,GB ... will adjust to the prevailing laws placed upon them. They obey the authorities as indicated in scripture.  This (your claim, hope, assurance) is opposed to the clearly stated claim of the GB member.

This would be the poster's own opinion on the matter, which I disagree with.

46 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

But, the Norwegian government decided not to give money to JWorg because it believes that this doctrine is contrary to the civilized, social and legal level of Norwegian society.
AM turns this situation around where it portrays JWorg as the victim.

Again, an erred assumption since the Norwegian Supreme Court cited, with the Watchtower in its bylaws as early as last year. The fact that the Norweigian government is playing devil's advocate and using double standards for the Watchtower is not surprising.

Yes! A poster with many faces. Ironic you are the one who answered, thanks. 😂