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1 hour ago, boyle said:
spectacle
"...we have become a theatrical spectacle to the world...We are fools because of Christ, but you are discreet in Christ; we are weak, but you are strong; you are held in honor, but we in dishonor...When insulted, we bless; when persecuted, we patiently endure; when slandered, we answer mildly; we have become as the refuse of the world, the offscouring of all things, until now. I am writing these things, not to put you to shame, but to admonish you as my beloved children."
(1 Corinthians 4:9-14)
1 hour ago, boyle said:disruptive
Love is disruptive to those in the congregation who want to rule as kings at present. Love is disruptive to those who want to lord it over the flock.
"God is Love." Jehovah is about to disrupt those wolves in the congregation. They will see how disruptive Jehovah will be to their cave of robbers when Jesus comes to kick out all those wolves and their God-dishonoring weedy doctrines shortly. When Jesus takes the throne in the kingdom, that's the first thing on his to-do list after he kicks Satan out of heaven.
1 hour ago, boyle said:Bless
Jesus' enthronement will be a blessing for all the disfellowshipped sheep that have been skinned and thrown about all over creation. He will gather them in and comfort them in that day.
"“Blessed is the one coming as the King in Jehovah’s name! Peace in heaven, and glory in the heights above!”
"“The one who bears witness of these things says,
‘Yes, I am coming quickly.’”
“Amen! Come, Lord Jesus.”
May the undeserved kindness of the Lord Jesus be with the holy ones."
(Revelation 22:20,21)
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6 minutes ago, boyle said:
I suppose all those people you were ratting out, you had solid proof the Elders could use to confront the entire congregation with.
I just added more to that Status Update in the reply section that shows the local police department response to the trespassing ban as well as photos from today and an explanation that the some of the elders will still wave and smile at me, because they know I am not some wicked dangerous person. They are afraid of men, and that's why they don't stand up and protect the flock, because they'd have to take on the GB. It's okay, Jesus will take down the GB in time.
The disfellowshipping doctrine has hurt so many people. I am so glad for that victory in Norway. Praise Jehovah.
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1 hour ago, boyle said:
Disprove it Audrey.
1 hour ago, boyle said:But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler.
I put in my Status Update this morning some communications with the elders in my congregation that show they do not follow the scriptures when "disfellowshipping". You can read them if you want and see what you think. I am not guilty of anything they charged me with. They said it was "reviling and causing divisions" for me to tell the truth about some in the congregation who were actively participating in serious wrongdoing and for me to warn the other brothers and sisters. I am not sexually immoral or greedy or an idolater or a slanderer or a drunkard or a swindler. They disfellowshipped me because I told on people who were actively doing those kinds of things and other things like those things, and still hurting people, and I warned the congregation. That's why I got disfellowshipped. That way of "disfellowshipping" is not scriptural. At all.
None of it is. They take scriptures out of context and misuse them to lord it over the flock and rule like kings, when Jesus only gave them permission to be older brothers. Jehovah will rebuke them.
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Here's the reason the Watchtower is going to lose all these cases...
"...the religious practice [of disfellowshipping]...which is carried out in accordance with the texts of the Bible..."
That is a lie. Their statement of the GB/Watchtower, that "disfellowshipping" is carried out according to Jehovah's Word is a Lie.
Jesus hates that disfellowshipping doctrine. Jehovah hates the disfellowshipping doctrine.
Jehovah won't back them as long as they keep lying. They're running right into a wall. Jehovah is the God of Justice. These guys are going to keep losing because they're fighting against Jehovah.
They're blaspheming Jehovah with their false doctrines. It's not going to go well for them.
"Whom have you taunted and blasphemed?
Against whom have you raised your voice
And lifted your arrogant eyes?
It is against the Holy One of Israel."
(Isaiah 37:23)
- boyle and Srecko Sostar
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7 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:
The Top WTJWorg Lawyer Philip Brumley. "The Corporation" (donation money) paid for his law studies, and he received a heavy fine, not because he does not know the law, but because of his dishonesty, he misleads the Court, makes incomplete and incorrect statements with the aim of defending injustice. What a great Lawyer, what a great Elder.
I see Watchtower paid the sanctions too.
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"...their eyes were weighed down, so they did not know what to answer him..."
@boyle I'm not sure who you are talking about. I am rather dull right now because I am sleepy. I am glad you hate evil and pride and arrogance. Me too. I also hate being overtired, so I have to go to sleep now...
I hope you have a nice rest of your evening🌿😌
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4 minutes ago, boyle said:
facts that are misrepresented by fallacious lawyers
Yes, some of the Watchtower lawyers fit the accurate descriptions from the Bible...
"Your princes are stubborn and partners with thieves.
Every one of them loves a bribe and chases after gifts.
They do not grant justice to the fatherless,
And the legal case of the widow never reaches them.
Therefore the true Lord, Jehovah of armies,
The Powerful One of Israel, declares:
“Ah! I will rid myself of my adversaries,
And I will take revenge on my enemies.
I will turn my hand against you,
I will smelt away your dross as with lye,
And I will remove all your impurities.
I will restore your judges as in the beginning
And your advisers as at the start.
After this you will be called City of Righteousness,
Faithful Town.
With justice Zion will be redeemed,
And her people who return, with righteousness."
(Isaiah 1:23-27)
"Their hands are expert at doing what is bad;
The prince is making demands,
The judge asks for a reward,
The prominent one makes known his desires,
And they work it out together.
Their best one is like thorns,
Their most upright one is worse than a thorn hedge.
The day of your watchmen and of your reckoning will come.
Now they will panic.
Do not put faith in your companion
Or trust a close friend.
Guard what you say to the one who lies in your embrace.
For a son despises his father,
A daughter rises up against her mother,
And a daughter-in-law is against her mother-in-law;
A man’s enemies are the men of his household.
But as for me, I will keep on the lookout for Jehovah.
I will show a waiting attitude for the God of my salvation.
My God will hear me."
(Micah 7:3-7)
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1 hour ago, boyle said:
This is why that suit didn’t turn out to be just about the Watchtower, but instead became a group collaboration with many interested religions.
SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH IN CANADA, CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS IN CANADA, CANADIAN COUNCIL OF CHRISTIAN CHARITIES, ASSOCIATION FOR REFORMED POLITICAL ACTION CANADA, BRITISH COLUMBIA CIVIL LIBERTIES ASSOCIATION, CANADIAN CONSTITUTION FOUNDATION, CHRISTIAN LEGAL FELLOWSHIP, EV ANGELICAL FELLOWSHIP OF CANADA, CATHOLIC CIVIL RIGHTS LEAGUE, WORLD SIKH ORGANIZATION OF CANADA AND JUSTICE CENTRE FOR CONSTITUTIONAL FREEDOMS, CANADIAN MUSLIM LAWYERS ASSOCIATION.
Yes, I remember seeing all those guys represented in the video...
(That video is over three hours long, but I believe there were a few highlights of the WT lawyer in this video too...)
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1 hour ago, Mankeptforunnaturalporpoises said:
elderly lonely angry needy
I don't see that there is anything wrong with any of those things.
Jesus was older than anybody else, so you could say that when he walked the earth he was elderly though not aging.
Jesus felt lonely sometimes. "About the ninth hour, Jesus called out with a loud voice, saying: “Eʹli, Eʹli, laʹma sa·bach·thaʹni?” that is, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”"
There is a lot to be angry about in the world. "Be agitated, but do not sin. Have your say in your heart, upon your bed, and keep silent." The Bible doesn't say that we'll never feel angry - it says to "be slow to anger." Jesus was angry with those robbers in the temple who were taking advantage of God's sheep in order to make a buck.
We're all needy. Anyone who says they're not needy isn't being truthful. Jehovah designed us to need each other. That's why we're a family.
I'm glad you're here. I hope you live forever.💖
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Some people wonder if ex-JWs going to the Capitol is like going out on a limb.
I don't know if that last meme was also going out on a limb to say such a thing to my "elders"...😁
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This article looks to have been initially posted in December 28 2022 but reposted today (dated SUNDAY 14 MAY 2023)
(Article translated using Google Translate...)
"Children should not be punished like adults - but they will be within Jehovah's Witnesses
Norway's State Administration has decided a case in which it determines that children's rights are violated when Jehovah's Witnesses practice their ostracism methods, where children are exposed to negative social control and are held to account within the sixteen's own closed legal system - where they are judged as adults. But are Norwegian children different from Danes - or all other children in the world?
If you are a "recognised religious community" (Act no. 1533 of 19 December 2017 on religious communities outside the national church) in Denmark, you have a number of financial advantages regarding (property) tax and VAT. In addition, members can donate an amount that they can deduct from tax.
In Norway, brave members contacted the public authorities and described that they felt trapped and did not dare to leave the sect for fear of the personal consequences it would have. Yesterday, Norway's State Administration announced to the Jehovah's Witnesses organization that the religious freedom of the members is violated when the organization expels its members. The decision does not mean that Jehovah's Witnesses will disappear from Norway. They can still practice their religion, they just no longer get millions of tax crowns every year, and then they lose the right to perform weddings.
Already in October, Jehovah's Witnesses in Norway were warned that they were about to have their state support stopped. On the same occasion, the organization was asked whether it wanted to change its exclusionary practices so that it could continue to receive government funding. To that, the Jehovah's Witnesses organization replied no. At the same time, the organization hired a high-profile lawyer.
Jehovah's Witnesses practice what in my time within the sect was called "excommunication" and which has later been changed to "exclusion," probably to give an illusion to the public that it is not such a bad punishment.
But an exclusion is exactly the same as an ostracism. In practice, this means that you are open to your family and former friends. I have experienced it myself. I know how it works. If you walk in the street and pass someone from the sect you have known since you were a child, he must pass you by without deigning to look at you. If you try to call home to say hello to your parents, they must hang up immediately. They must have absolutely no contact with you. If the outcast shows up outside the parents' door, they must not initiate a conversation and must close the door - no matter how old the outcast is. Imagine how many outcasts either kill themselves or creep back into the cult - not to mention those who dare not leave the cult for fear of the treatment they have seen others receive.
And that is precisely why Norway has now had enough. It is inhumane to treat especially children and young people in that way. I myself was told that I myself had made the choice to be baptized and therefore also knew the consequences when I chose to leave the sect. I was baptized two weeks after my 14th birthday, had not yet had my period, had never been in love or kissed a boy – in short, I had accepted abstinence requirements I had no understanding of.
The sect strongly encourages you to be baptized as early as possible - and then you sit in the scissors. You are held accountable for your actions on equal terms with adults. I have heard of children as young as 8 who have been baptized - and judged as adults when they start asking questions or breaking the sect's rules.
There has been a citizens' proposal to deprive Jehovah's Witnesses in Denmark of their recognition as a religious community. Unfortunately, too few signed for the Danish Parliament to consider the proposal.
And that's a shame. On the one hand, Jehovah's Witnesses are immensely happy about the economic benefits that the Danish state gives them, on the other hand, such a state-supported economy is a blue stamp of the inhumane, sectarian doomsday cult's practice, which with its Gestapo methods forces the members to stab each other - with severe personal consequences for follow when he or she is expelled.
And how do Jehovah's Witnesses react to the decision in Norway? Ironically, they say that they are a persecuted minority, that their freedom of religion is challenged, that they are victims of a crusade that tries to make the lives of the witnesses as difficult as possible and pressure them to change the interpretation and practice of the Bible's message, which they of course "no way" intend to do. It is tragicomic to see how their manipulative argument magic is turned upside down.
My hope is that more European countries will look to Norway as a pioneering country - not only when it comes to financial support for Jehovah's Witnesses, but for all religious communities, cults and sect organizations that take children and young people hostage and use social control contrary to the Convention on the Rights of the Child and common sense. The state must play a greater role – especially in European, democratic countries, where we can only expect more insane religions and sects on our doorstep in the future."
- Srecko Sostar and boyle
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Well, when I "met" this character it was as MoiseRacette. I think you went through a few different ones in brief succession after that. I wouldn't have minded the Australian version, the accent was kinda humorous, except I didn't like when he called me a certain word. Otherwise, I wouldn't have reported him. The "esa...whatever" fellow was more of the silent type - the thing was it was impossible to have a two-way conversation with him, what with all the horizontal line nonsense. Do you have a spreadsheet or something to keep all the characters in order? Or a computer program or something? Does ChatGPT help with that, making up new characters? Someday will the real person behind all the puppets come out I wonder?
The thing about puppets, you can still see some of the person behind the fluff. And "you know who you are." Even if there are a hundred different "characters" there is still only one heart behind them all. "And you do know who you all are." (So does the Administrator surely ☺️. And Jehovah.)
Maybe you'll try a Norwegian accent some time? Or perhaps Swedish?
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1 hour ago, boyle said:
Audrey brought the thread back to life.
I do believe in resurrections.😁
What a beautiful day it will be when disfellowshipping is no longer legal anywhere! Then all the "disfellowshipped" ones will be "resurrected" in the eyes of their JW "family" members and JW "friends". Jehovah will make it happen at the appointed time. Praise Jehovah.💖
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...I didn't see that one, but I remember seeing the Davy Crockett movie and the line "Remember the Alamo!"
Although I think it wasn't Davy Crockett who said that line, but some general.
Davy Crockett supposedly said: "You may all go to hell and I'll go to Texas."
That's not a very nice thing to say, but that's what the man said.
I've been to Texas. But I've never been to Spain.
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55 minutes ago, boyle said:
sympathy from me
Oh, but you've comforted me so much already, Jehovah knows!☺️
55 minutes ago, boyle said:What is the moral of the story and the experience that needs to be shared?
46 minutes ago, boyle said:grace
55 minutes ago, boyle said:your endeavor! 🤗
46 minutes ago, boyle said:sweetie!
55 minutes ago, boyle said:hope
55 minutes ago, boyle said:Having an erroneous attitude can be detrimental to your success. It's important to avoid having a negative mindset and to approach situations with an open mind and positive outlook.
55 minutes ago, boyle said:One day you will learn the ways of God.
Thank you for your confidence, @boyle! I am confident too that everything Jehovah has promised will come true.
"But the one who guarantees that you and we belong to Christ and the one who anointed us is God. He has also put his seal on us and has given us the token of what is to come, that is, the spirit, in our hearts...we are fellow workers for your joy, for it is by your faith that you are standing."
(2 Corinthians 1:22-24)
I hope you have a good rest of the afternoon!💝 Catch up with you later, Jehovah willing🥰🌷
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1 hour ago, boyle said:
Those who defend the disfellowshipped are considered losers in the eyes of God.
You've got it backwards, sweetie.
Those who defend the disfellowshipped are considered losers in the eyes of the GB.
Here is what Jehovah says about defending the lowly ones:
"The one showing favor to the lowly is lending to Jehovah,
And He will repay him for what he does."
"Happy is anyone who shows consideration to the lowly one;
Jehovah will rescue him in the day of calamity.
Jehovah will guard him and keep him alive.
He will be pronounced happy in the earth;
You will never turn him over to the will of his enemies."
"...righteousness.
May he plead the cause of your people with righteousness,
And of your lowly ones with justice.
May the mountains bring peace to the people,
And may the hills bring righteousness.
Let him defend the lowly among the people,
Let him save the sons of the poor,
And let him crush the defrauder."
"Defend the lowly and the fatherless.
Render justice to the helpless and destitute.
Rescue the lowly and the poor;
Save them out of the hand of the wicked."
"Speak up in behalf of the speechless;
Defend the rights of all who are perishing.
Speak up and judge righteously;
Defend the rights of the lowly and the poor."
(Proverbs 19:17; Psalm 41:1,2; Psalm 72:1-4; Psalm 82:3,4; Proverbs 31:8,9)
1 hour ago, boyle said:Please do not associate me with those who do not conform to respectable moral and ethical standards. I am on a mission that is blessed by Jehovah.
I know. 😉
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39 minutes ago, boyle said:47 minutes ago, AudreyAnnaNana said:
The disfellowshipping doctrine is bunk. If the worldly governments make it illegal to disfellowship, I will celebrate, just as the Jews celebrated Purim back in ancient times.
Spoken like a true apostate! 😜
Thank you.🥰
(I will never condone the God-dishonoring doctrines of the GB. If obeying God as ruler is considered "apostasy", then Amen!)
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31 minutes ago, boyle said:
You forget how David's heart was transformed and by objective, repented. So, your theory has holes in it.
My heart doesn't have holes in it.
David didn't need to repent about being Jehovah's friend. Saul hated David because David was Jehovah's friend. King Saul tried to kill David because David was Jehovah's friend. Anointed King Saul disfellowshipped David because David was Jehovah's friend. It's the same reason the GB and some of the elder bodies disfellowship some of Jehovah's friends today.
When King Saul died, David was no longer "disfellowshipped". When the nations remove the GB from power, there will no longer be "disfellowshipping" in the congregations. Jesus will allow the nations to work along with the angels to remove the weeds from the congregation, including the weedlike doctrines that don't belong.
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18 minutes ago, boyle said:
Please do not associate me with those who do not conform to respectable moral and ethical standards. I am on a mission that is blessed by Jehovah. Your mission and those that defend apostates are sanctioned by the devil. 😉
The Devil doesn't like my association. I am associated with Jehovah.
If you want to "disfellowship" me from your association, @boyle, you can join the club. But I'd miss you, just like I miss the other ones who disfellowshipped me. Hopefully they'll wake up eventually and realize how foolish it is to walk around ignoring people who are Jehovah's friends. Hopefully they'll wake up and stop denying the power of the ransom blood.
"This was in the sight of God, in whom he had faith, who makes the dead alive and calls the things that are not as though they are."
(Romans 4:17)
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31 minutes ago, boyle said:
Until you can show me how Judas became a favorite of Jehovah? I'm sorry, but your ideology lacks substance. 🤭
Blasphemer! Jehovah will never send a bunch of losers to the capitol. That's a disgraceful comment. 😮
Judas was anointed by holy spirit to be one of the 144,000. When he blasphemed that anointing holy spirit, there was no longer anything left to redeem him.
When non-anointed ones are disfellowshipped, it's not possible for them to blaspheme the spirit in that specific way, because they never had the holy spirit anointing them in that way to begin with. It is not possible for a human tribunal to judge if someone blasphemed the holy spirit.
Jehovah's Word makes it clear to us today that Judas blasphemed the spirit, because Jesus called Judas the son of destruction and the apostle John talked about what that meant.
When the governing body or any elder body or publication today claims a person is not redeemable by the ransom and therefore "disfellowshippable", that governing body or elder body or publication is putting themselves in the place of Jesus and Jehovah and God's Word the Bible.
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Now you're talking, @boyle, now you're making sense! See, I knew you'd come around eventually! Good job!😃
"Jehovah will defeat them for you...Be courageous and strong. Do not be afraid or struck with terror before them, for Jehovah your God is the one marching with you. He will neither desert you nor abandon you.”
(Deuteronomy 31:5,6)
Jehovah will be with all the little ones. Sometimes we go through really hard things, but we go through them together. Jehovah does not abandon the little ones, even though sometimes we don't realize He's there. The sun always rises. When it is the light of day, the little ones will know that Jehovah never abandoned them, not really. He will exalt them, and then they will know He is Jehovah, Their God.💞