John 12.24to28

http://watchtowerdocuments.org/documents/2008_Jehovahs_Witnesses_and_National_Oaths_of_Allegiance.pdf

https://www.fox43.com/article/news/local/pa-grand-jury-investigation-systemic-cover-up-child-sex-abuse-jehovahs-witnesses/521-3ebc3df5-6044-4982-ac96-fc473c8a865f#longform_chapter_1

Does this mean, faith? You mean you don't know about the Jehovah Factor?

Running is fun! I have to run for now, but I will catch up with you a little later!

I have a bully doggy...

The Jehovah Factor is the best - makes any normal calculation into something superabundantly beyond all we can ask or conceive😃

Factoring in math is cool.

Hi, @boyle! Did you have a good day today?

Myth: A god who would end a life must be not nice. Consider: A knife or sword or blade can be used for good or bad. I don't need to go into the bad, but here are some good things a blade can be used for: carving beautiful wooden figurines, surgically removing malignant growths, engraving gems, mercifully ending the life of a dangerous killer animal that's hell-bent on attacking your kids, cutting watermelon slices into bite sized pieces... Do we want to put a blade into the hands of a homicidal maniac? No, of course not. But if our most trusted friend has a pocketknife, are we terrified that He's going to suddenly go on a rampage? No, of course not. There are some false stories, myths, going around about Jehovah. Some people say "oh, He must be so mean, I can't believe He killed all those people in situation X, Y, Z..." (fill in the blank with whatever people say like "the Flood" or "Korah" or "the plagues" or "the pigs in the Legion account" whatever...) If we see a complicated math problem written out on the board but we know the professor can solve it, are we terrified that there must not be an answer just because we can't solve it? Are we terrified that the laws of mathematics must not really exist just because we can't solve it right now? No, of course not. Math always works because of the universal laws that are set in place. They are trustworthy because the One who put them in place is trustworthy. People who doubt God's Love will misunderstand Bible accounts. They will assume bad motive about Jehovah because they don't really know Him. Rather than asking God, "hey, could you let Jesus explain this to me?" they just walk away, just like those people who stumbled when Jesus said "unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood you have no share with me." They misunderstood, and they didn't stop to ask for clarification. It's the same today. There are answers if anyone wants to wait for them. Ask the professor to help us understand. It's foolish to say math is a myth and walk away just because a person can't comprehend calculus functions yet. How much more foolish to throw away the truth and happiness and everlasting life and love just because of a misunderstanding about Legion and pigs! "For the word of God is alive and exerts power and is sharper than any two-edged sword and pierces even to the dividing of soul and spirit, and of joints from the marrow, and is able to discern thoughts and intentions of the heart." "For the weapons of our warfare are not fleshly, but powerful by God for overturning strongly entrenched things. For we are overturning reasonings and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are bringing every thought into captivity to make it obedient to the Christ." When we are patient with the beloved Master engraver, we are always rewarded, and the result is something beautiful. (Hebrews 4:12; 1 Corinthians 10:4,5)

"Seek Jehovah, all you meek ones of the earth, Who observe his righteous decrees. Seek righteousness, seek meekness. Probably you will be concealed on the day of Jehovah’s anger." The day of Jehovah's anger as described in context in Zephaniah is towards those people who claim to be Jehovah's Witnesses but who are hurting others and towards those people who claim to be Jehovah's Witnesses but are really naughty and towards those people who claim to represent Jehovah but who are actually bringing great reproach on His Name. The prophecy was spoken to Jehovah's Name People. Ezekiel tells us how Jehovah works the "probabilities": "Jehovah said to him: “Go through the city, through Jerusalem, and put a mark on the foreheads of the men who are sighing and groaning over all the detestable things that are being done in the city." Those who are "sighing and groaning" over what is going on in the organization have the "probabilities" in their favor. Jehovah favors such right-hearted ones who hate bad, love good, and desire justice. "Hate what is bad, and love what is good, Let justice prevail in the city gate. It may be that Jehovah the God of armies Will show favor to the remaining ones of Joseph." Jehovah says: "I will favor the one whom I favor, and I will show mercy to the one to whom I show mercy." Praise Jehovah.💖 (Zephaniah 2:3; Ezekiel 9:4; Amos 5:15; Exodus 33:19)

Well, surely your wife and kids and other family (those who have a brain in their head and common sense) will be greatly "inconvenienced" if you're not there (...if any of them don't have common sense enough to appreciate you now, they will eventually stop being ignorant when they get a brain in the future...) since you are the only one like you in the entire universe thus that makes you irreplaceable. Someone else may be able to stand in for you, but that's not exactly the same. I am very selfish and even if you find it not "inconvenient" not to be there, I will find it very inconvenient (Besides, I don't know if "Allen" @boyle can survive without you...) Thus I beseech you with this request on all of our behalf's: pleeeeease be there! ❣️🥲😬🙏 Just think of all the things you could think of to banter with Allen if you had everlasting time on your hands!😃 The "GB" may be like the man behind the wizard-curtain, but the Real God isn't some fake "wizard" like some make him out to be...Jehovah is the True God. How much more so Jehovah can fix everything! "All things are possible with God." "Now this commandment that I am commanding you today is not too difficult for you, nor is it beyond your reach. It is not in the heavens, so that you have to say, ‘Who will ascend to the heavens and get it for us, so that we may hear it and observe it?’ Nor is it on the other side of the sea, so that you have to say, ‘Who will cross over to the other side of the sea and get it for us, so that we may hear it and observe it?’ For the word is very near you, in your own mouth and in your own heart, so that you may do it." "Search for Jehovah while he may be found. Call to him while he is near. Let the wicked man leave his way And the evil man his thoughts; Let him return to Jehovah, who will have mercy on him, To our God, for he will forgive in a large way. “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, And your ways are not my ways,” declares Jehovah. “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So my ways are higher than your ways And my thoughts than your thoughts."" "For I am convinced that neither death nor life nor angels nor governments nor things now here nor things to come nor powers nor height nor depth nor any other creation will be able to separate us from God’s love that is in Christ Jesus our Lord." You already know Jehovah's name and how to call on Him. If you just want to, I know you'll be there.🙂 💖 (Matthew 19:26; Mark 9:23; Mark 10:27; Deuteronomy 30:11-15; Isaiah 55:6-9; Romans 8:38)

I heard somebody say once..."the problem is everything that lives gets old, unless we've been terminated, there are no exceptions." To my brother @Pudgy who has a reasonable expectation of being forever young somewhere down the road...🙂 "Don't know when don't know where but somewhere down the road..." "This universe is based on probability and it's probable..." "May God bless and keep you always May your wishes all come true May you always do for others And let others do for you May you build a ladder to the stars And climb on every rung May you stay forever young. "Forever young, forever young May you stay forever young. "May you grow up to be righteous May you grow up to be true May you always know the truth and see The light surrounding you May you always be courageous Stand upright and be strong May you stay forever young. "Forever young, forever young May you stay forever young. "May your hands always be busy May your feet always be swift May you have a strong foundation When the winds of changes shift May your heart always be joyful May your song always be sung May you stay forever young. "Forever young, forever young May you stay forever young." May you stay forever young, dear brother!😌🫶🙏 (Thank you for giving me courage and strength sometimes when you didn't even know it...) ("Exit stage right." Bedtime for now, Goodnight for tonight!)

It will be good to joke with you for the next 13 1/2 billion more years and beyond for all eternity, my brother!😊✨

"Seeing" Jehovah - Scriptures Cited from Page 3 of this thread... God's "older" kids led by His spirit to share this good news with the rest of the "younger" kids in the family: Romans 8:14-17; 1 Corinthians 2:6-10; 2 Corinthians 4:1-7, 15-18 Jehovah's Name glorious: Exodus 20:7 Those who blaspheme other people can be forgiven but not those who blaspheme the holy spirit: Matthew 12:31 The GB has not shared these truths: Luke 16:10; Matthew 24:45; Matthew 12:33-37 As Our Father, Jehovah will glorify His Name: John 12:28 The conclusion of the system is during the 3 1/2 years of the great tribulation, that is when Jesus will send the angels to remove the weeds and the true wheat will shine brightly, organization again refined: Matthew 13:36-43; Ezekiel 36:22-28; Malachi 3:2, 3; Jeremiah 31:34; 1 John 5:21 Jesus is letting us know ahead of time: John 14:29-31; Revelation 13:9, 10 No need to fear tribulation, look toward the reward of relationship with Jehovah and let love guide everything we do: Hebrews 11:26; Song of Solomon 8:6, 7; Philippians 3:8; 1 John 3:9-18 You are much beloved🥰💖: 1 Thessalonians 2:8

I hope you don't ever have to be dead, but if you do have to take a rest it will be good to see you again when you wake up. 🙂🌷

"Seeing" Jehovah - Scriptures Cited from Page 2 of this thread... Some people don't want truth right now or later: Matthew 7:6; Revelation 22:15 Jesus is drawing right-hearted ones and they will understand Jesus is gathering the entire family to see Our Father, not just those who will be a new creation: John 10:7-16; John 5:19, 20; Mark 10:13-16 At end of 1000 year reign, all of the human family will "see" and interact with God personally like it's supposed to be, since He is their Father: 1 Corinthians 15:28; Ephesians 3:1-21 The GB hasn't told people because the GB likes the prominence and divisions and exaltation and class distinctions: Proverbs 8:13; Matthew 23:12; Luke 18:14; Luke 14:11; Luke 16:15; 2 Corinthians 11:5, 6; Proverbs 30:32; 1 Corinthians 4:1-14 It is difficult for those "rich" in pride and prominence to see the truth about the kingdom blessings and seeing Jehovah because they view it like a business manager rather than a little kid with their Father: Luke 18:22-25; Mark 10:21-27; 1 Timothy 6:17-21; Matthew 6:24; Luke 8:14; Matthew 13:22; Hebrews 11:26; Revelation 3:17 For those willing to give up "glory from men" there is a great reward: Romans 8:21; Romans 8:16; Ephesians 5:1; Philippians 2:15; 1 John 3:10; Acts 17:29; 1 John 3:2; John 1:12; Acts 2:39; Romans 9:8; 1 John 3:1; John 11:52; Isaiah 29:22-24 Free gift of close relationship with Our Father for anyone, not just anointed: Revelation 22:17; Ephesians 2:14 The GB are like the Pharisees, and they haven't told the people they will also see Jehovah: Matthew 23:1-39; John 10:26-30; Malachi 3:18 Jesus wants the people to know, he is the one sending out a witness by means of the holy spirit: Matthew 28:20; John 14:16; John 16:23; John 13:20; John 8:14; Luke 14:14, 15 Those who attempt to block the truth will be uprooted when Jesus takes the throne: Jude 12; Matthew 15:13; Luke 17:6; Matthew 13:30; Luke 11;47-52 Jehovah allowed ancient Israelites to hear His voice, He can allow people to see Him in a materialized body: Deuteronomy 18:16; Numbers 11:23 Anointed priesthood will minister here on earth: Revelation 21:2, 10; 2 Corinthians 12:1-7 Jacob wrestled with God to get to his family across the river as illustrative of how Jehovah God is "wrestling" to get all of His family, and how God is in pain until we are all united: Genesis 32:22-32; Mark 10:14; Luke 18:16; 1 John 4:10; 1 John 3:1; Psalm 128:3; Psalm 52:8 Jehovah's ways are higher than our ways, that is why some find it so difficult to believe: Isaiah 55:8, 9; Psalm 103:11; Deuteronomy 1:31; Ephesians 3:14-21 Jehovah in a materialized body regularly walked and talked with Adam in the garden: Genesis 3:8-10 The One who made the body can materialize a body for himself: Colossians 3:10; Matthew 19:4; Psalm 100:3; Isaiah 66:2; Amos 5:8; Psalm 94:9; Luke 11:40; Genesis 2:7 Is anything too difficult for Jehovah?: Isaiah 38:8; 2 Kings 20:9, 10; Joshua 10:12-14; Zechariah 8:6; Luke 20:38; Mark 12:27 Have faith, don't worry if others ridicule: Matthew 17:16-20 Jehovah is coming: Isaiah 40:3; Matthew 3:3; John 1:23; Luke 3:4; Mark 1:3; Malachi 4:5; Revelation 4:8; Revelation 1:8; Psalm 96:7-10 Jehovah will heal the family so the angelic sons and the human sons can hang out with Jehovah Our Father together: Ephesians 3:14-21 Praise Jehovah for His loyal love: Ezra 3:11; Psalm 117:2; Psalm 66:20; Psalm 138:2

(for @Pudgy and @Witness and @boyle) 🥰 "Seeing" Jehovah - Scriptures Cited from Page 1 of this thread... Hope is like an anchor for the soul: Hebrews 6:19 No man has "seen" God at anytime: John 1:18 Apostle John often speaks figuratively (Jesus "the Word", Jesus "the Light", God "is Love", God "is Light"): John 1:1; John 1:9; John 1:14; 1 John 4:8; 1 John 4:16; 1 John 1:5 Jesus explained what God is like in His Heavenly Glory because Jesus is the only man who ever saw God in His Heavenly Glory: John 1:18; John 5:37; John 10:15; John 17:25 Jehovah told Moses "no man see me and live" about His Heavenly Glory ("when my glory is passing by"): Exodus 33:20-23 Moses saw Jehovah's face when Jehovah materialized a messenger body in order to speak to Moses (Moses couldn't see Jehovah's Complete Heavenly Glory and live): Exodus 33:11; Numbers 12:8; Deuteronomy 34:10; Acts 10:38 Gideon saw Jehovah's face when Jehovah materialized a messenger body to interact with him: Judges 6:14, 22 Hagar saw Jehovah when He materialized a messenger body: Genesis 16:13 Jehovah told Ezekiel He would literally walk among the people: Ezekiel 43:6, 7 Jacob wrestled with Jehovah for a blessing: Genesis 32:28-30 Jehovah was walking in garden in a materialized body: Genesis 3:8 Jehovah materialized a body in order to eat a meal at Abraham's tent: Genesis 18:1-33 Jesus said Jehovah is "Our Father" (which means He will interact personally with all His Children on earth because that's what good dads do): Matthew 6:9; James 1:27; Isaiah 64:8; Ephesians 5:20; 1 Thessalonians 1:3; Romans 1:7; Galatians 4:6; 1 Chronicles 29:10; John 14:23; Malachi 2:10; Isaiah 63:16; 1 Thessalonians 3:13; Romans 4:12; 2 Thessalonians 2:16; Colossians 1:2; 2 Thessalonians 1:1; Galatians 1:3; 2 Corinthians 1:2 John was talking about "no one has seen God" in His Heavenly Glory, which "is Love": 1 John 4:12-16 If Jehovah can hear all prayers at once, He can multitask in other ways too: Psalm 65:2; 1 Kings 8:45, 49; 2 Chronicles 6:35; Psalm 84:8; 2 Corinthians 1:11; Revelation 8:4 Jehovah's people are blind because they can't see that the whole righteous human family is going to see Jehovah: Isaiah 42:18, 19; Romans 11:25-36 Jehovah is the Ultimate Father, He will enjoy spending time with All His Kids: Psalm 127:1-5; Acts 10:34, 35 Jesus is called Son of Man not just Son of God because Man is also a Son of God, made in God's Image (Man "looks" like what God looks like): Genesis 1:26, 27; Luke 3:38; Mark 14:62 Jehovah can become whatever He wants, He can materialize a body easily: Exodus 3:14, 15; Job 23:13; Ezekiel 37:27; Ezekiel 48:35; Psalm 132:13, 14; Joel 3:21; Zechariah 2:10, 11; Revelation 1:8; Revelation 7:17; Revelation 21:3-5 Jehovah will join Anointed and Non-anointed together that they may all be one family, all will "see" Jehovah because He is the Father of both: Ezekiel 37:15-23 Anointed are depicted as "elders" in Revelation because in a figurative sense they are "born" first by knowing certain details about Jehovah while still in the flesh because of the holy spirit: Revelation 14:3; Revelation 11:16; Revelation 4:9-11 The rest of humankind "born" completely as God's children at end of 1,000 year reign when God becomes all things to all people and family united at last: 1 Corinthians 15:22-28 Jehovah is close to all His kids: Acts 17:27 Jehovah was physically (not just spiritually) close to Adam in order to physically breathe breath into Him (the breath of life is physical): Genesis 2:7 Jesus said he (and the anointed ones) would physically hang out with people on earth during the Paradise: Luke 22:16, 30; Luke 23:43 Need to have the heart of a little child to realize the beautiful things Our Father will do (a little child wants to be with their Father): 2 Thessalonians 3:2; Mark 10:14; Matthew 19:14; Luke 18:16; 1 John 4:4; 1 John 2:28; 1 John 2:12 There are tough times coming during the tribulation, but this hope of seeing Jehovah sustains us: Luke 10:18-24; Psalm 1:1-6; James 5:10, 11; Matthew 5:10-16; James 1:12; 1 Peter 4:14 Reject speech of naysayers who say "it's not possible": 2 Timothy 2:16; Romans 1:18-22 Future hope wonderful: 2 Corinthians 4:17; 2 Peter 1:2

If they had repented, they would have gotten on the ark. There was enough room for them.

"I am more ignorant than anyone else, And I lack the understanding a man should have. I have not learned wisdom, And I do not possess the knowledge of the Most Holy One." "Who has ascended to heaven and then descended? Who has gathered the wind in the palms of both hands? Who has wrapped up the waters in his garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is his name and the name of his son—if you know?" "Every saying of God is refined. He is a shield to those taking refuge in him. Add nothing to his words, Or he will reprove you, And you will be proved a liar." "Two things I ask of you. Do not withhold them from me before I die. Remove untruth and lies far from me. Give me neither poverty nor riches. Just let me consume my portion of food, So that I do not become satisfied and deny you and say, “Who is Jehovah?”" (Proverbs 30:2-9...A Real message from the "outer realms" for any who care to accept it📡💖😉)

"Who put wisdom within the clouds Or gave understanding to the sky phenomenon?" "Then Job said in reply to Jehovah: “Now I know that you are able to do all things And that nothing you have in mind to do is impossible for you. You said, ‘Who is this who is obscuring my counsel without knowledge?’ Therefore I spoke, but without understanding About things too wonderful for me, which I do not know. You said, ‘Please listen, and I will speak. I will question you, and you inform me.’ My ears have heard about you, But now I do see you with my eyes. That is why I take back what I said, And I repent in dust and ashes." Praise Jehovah, the Maker of Heaven and Earth and the Sky Phenomenon, in Truth. (Job 38:36; 42:1-6)😁

(I suppose "alien" myths can be entertaining at least...Star Wars vs Star Trek...I don't know, they're both hokey, of the two I've always preferred Star Wars myself...but since Muppets tend to make everything more fun...)

Yeah, a lot of those alien youtube videographers are just like "Kai Opaka". And their "followers" are stuck in the "wormhole". Trading one "borg" for another "borg". Pity the figurative "Sisko's" can't just let go of the past and make peace with "Picard" so they can move on to the better part of the universe. Oh, well. Some people just like to stay in the same ol' dumpy space station forever, I guess, rather than go explore the stars. 😆

(Sample dialogue: Evidence based science vs Sci-fi myths) JW: I'd like to share a message with you... Householder: Are you one of those Jehovah's Witnesses? JW: Yes. Householder: Is it true you believe in demons? JW: I believe that they exist. Householder: That's ridiculous. How can you believe in something you can't see? When something unexplained happens, Jehovah's Witnesses always want to say it's demons. I think that's really dumb. JW: Well, I can assure you that I don't think everything unexplained is "demons". I see you have a bumper sticker that says "Area 51." Do you believe in aliens? Householder: Yes. Really smart people believe in aliens. I'm waiting for aliens to reach out to us with an important message someday. I think the government is hiding their existence. JW: Ah. You must have a lot of faith in the government. Have you ever seen an alien? Householder: No, but other people have. When there are bright flashy lights, that means it's aliens. Or sometimes when there are flying things, it's aliens. And if something unexplained happens, it's aliens. Really smart people believe in aliens. I read about it on the internet. There are even people who have youtube videos about it, I can give you the link so you can see the youtube videos too. JW: Hmm. You seem to get a lot of your information from other people's opinions on the internet. What do you personally think about aliens? Householder: I think there is intelligent life in the universe, I mean, we can't be the only intelligent life, right? The universe is a big place. JW: So if aliens could travel here, you must think they have advanced technology? Householder: Yes. JW: So if aliens are so advanced, do you think they can communicate? Householder: Yes. JW: Think they are advanced enough to write a book? Householder: I suppose. JW: Are you aware of any books written by an alien? Householder: No, not really. JW: Do you know any aliens by name? I mean, if they have advanced technology and can communicate, they must have told somebody their names? Householder: No, I really don't know any aliens by name. JW: Interesting. You know, I don't like to believe in things I can't see unless there is hard evidence of their existence. I call it the "window test." I have this book here. See it? God is invisible, but He used his invisible force to move His messengers to write down the things in this book. His name is in here too. His Name is Jehovah. See it? There are thousands of ancient copies of this book still in existence because Jehovah used his force to move His messengers to hand copy it, even though they got a lot of opposition. And today He has moved His messengers to use technology to make millions and millions of copies of it. See? He wants everyone to know His Name. His name means "He Causes To Become." In fact, He sent me to tell you these things. You can see me, right? Jehovah sent me by means of His invisible force. That's why I am called one of Jehovah's witnesses. Hard evidence. I am evidence that He exists and He wants you to know He is interested in you, in sharing a message with you. It's the message you've been waiting for, you were just looking in the wrong place. Can I share it with you? Householder: I don't know...there are a lot of secret leaked government documents on alien encounters that I want to read - I have faith in that kind of thing - I've never really had faith in God. JW: I can see that. Well, we can start slow. 😁

"You have set a limit for him that he may not go beyond." I've gone beyond my limit for sleepiness...I've got to go to bed - goodnight @boyle@Pudgy 😌

It sounds like you better stick to non-fiction movies about lambs from now on maybe!