John 12.24to28

It's always good to keep a radio telescope clean and in good working order, so that it can figuratively "see" clearly and get an accurate reading. Otherwise a complicated instrument is just a useless hunk of junk.

How much more so all of our hearts can use some "maintenance" now and then.

"circumcision . . . of the heart:...To “circumcise [the] heart” means to “cleanse” it by getting rid of anything in one’s thinking, affections, or motives that is displeasing and unclean in Jehovah’s eyes and that makes the heart unresponsive." (study note, NWT)

"Circumcising" the heart might sound scary, but we don't have to be afraid of the pain. We have a helper, the holy spirit force from Jehovah himself, to help us bear the pain. Jesus promises to give it to us to help us bear the pain, if we just ask Jehovah for the help.

"For all things I have the strength through the one who gives me power."

Remember what it was like to have the heart of a child?

"Truly I say to you, whoever does not receive the Kingdom of God like a young child will by no means enter into it."

"At that time Jesus said in response: “I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children.  Yes, O Father, because this is the way you approved.  All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one fully knows the Son except the Father; neither does anyone fully know the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son is willing to reveal him.  Come to me, all you who are toiling and loaded down, and I will refresh you.  Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am mild-tempered and lowly in heart, and you will find refreshment for yourselves.  For my yoke is kindly, and my load is light.”

He will help us bear the pain.

(Speaking of "bear"...)

Jehovah's Love is like Gravity, in a way. You can't "see" it but it draws us to Him. It lets us know He's there.

Jehovah himself says: 

"With the ropes of men I kept drawing them, with the cords of love; 

And I was to them like one lifting a yoke from their jaws, 

And I gently brought food to each one."

"Above all the things that you guard, safeguard your heart, 

For out of it are the sources of life."

The heart can be like a radio telescope. When our hearts detect love, we are "seeing" Jehovah with the eyes of our heart. Figurative "Infrared" technology.

"I continue mentioning you in my prayers,  that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the accurate knowledge of him.  He has enlightened the eyes of your heart, so that you may know to what hope he called you, what glorious riches he holds as an inheritance for the holy ones,  and how surpassing the greatness of his power is toward us believers."

The Bible is an accurate roadmap for guiding the heart, because it was written using figurative "Infrared waves" - Holy Spirit. 

"Your word is a lamp to my foot, 

And a light for my path."

"Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him.  God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth.”

When the heart responds, it is not an accident. It is because of what Jesus said:

"No man can come to me unless the Father, who sent me, draws him."

"No one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father.”

"Happy you are...because flesh and blood did not reveal it to you, but my Father in the heavens did."

"For the Father himself has affection for you, because you have had affection for me and have believed that I came as God’s representative."

Praise Jehovah📡💖🙂

29 minutes ago, Pudgy said:

map

"Not all who wander are lost" lol. Speaking of maps, how do scientists map things they haven't seen? (It is possible to "see" light without literally seeing its source.)

4 hours ago, boyle said:

You mentioned Jude compared Korah with his illustration. Do you believe every Elder has greed and self-worth? This is why I asked for a specific bible verse.

If that is the case, do you believe God could possibly find someone worthy to act on his behalf?

John and Paul and Peter and Timothy were elders, and they didn't have greed or selfishness.

Today there are people who reflect God's love in the congregations. Some are elders, but it can be difficult for them since the governing body teaches commands of men as doctrines and many of those man-made commands hinder the elders from showing God's love.

Jesus will come and remedy the situation during the great tribulation. Then it won't be so difficult for the elders because all those dumb false doctrines and man-made extra rules will be gone.

4 hours ago, boyle said:

Now what independent rules from Elders have you personally come across? All the rules Elders make are scriptural, but it seems to be by your implication, that you have experienced a pharisee.

You know their rules are not all scriptural, and yes, I have experienced flack from quite a few "Pharisee" elders and non-elders. 

4 hours ago, boyle said:

You have to love Jehovah first, and accept all commands in order for Christ to fully love you.

The Bible says that Jehovah loved us first, even before we knew He existed.

"The love is in this respect, not that we have loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as a propitiatory sacrifice for our sins."

He loves us before we accept all of Christ's commands.

Then he asks us to do the same to others, to love them before they show love back.

🙂

He said: "I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another."

Pray-Sing-Thank Jehovah🥰

4 hours ago, boyle said:

Unfortunately, I have daunting tasks all week long. I rest when I can. Enjoy your evening as well. 😊

Thank you. 🙂 I pray that you have strength for your daunting tasks. There is a lot of work to do.😁 Thank you for working so hard. May Jehovah bless your heart with courage and strength as you keep working in love.💞

"God is love, and the one who remains in love remains in union with God and God remains in union with him.  In this way love has been made perfect in us, so that we may have freeness of speech in the day of judgment, because just as that one is, so are we ourselves in this world.  There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts fear out, because fear restrains us. Indeed, the one who is fearful has not been made perfect in love.  We love, because he first loved us."

Fear of man is an idol. "But we know that the Son of God has come, and he has given us insight so that we may gain the knowledge of the one who is true. And we are in union with the one who is true, by means of his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and life everlasting.  Little children, guard yourselves from idols." You have been able to see more clearly because you know how to throw out fear of man.

Hope you have a nice morning, @boyle 🌷Jehovah Himself loves you...

(Maybe you can sing this song to Jehovah💖 later today...☺️)

The governing body speaks in their own name. They say, "we are the one channel" and "obey us and you are obeying God." The governing body members have exalted themselves and are accepting "glory" from men. (So are many who follow them.)

Here is what Jesus said to those ones who glorify men or seek their own glory: "I do not accept glory from men, but I well know that you do not have the love of God in you.  I have come in the name of my Father, but you do not receive me. If someone else came in his own name, you would receive that one.  How can you believe, when you are accepting glory from one another and you are not seeking the glory that is from the only God."

"Glory from men" isn't really glory at all, it is Cold, related to Competition/Pride and has a form of Fake/Imitation Light. In contrast, Real "glory that is from the only God" is like a Blazing Fire and Bright Light and Burning Love and brings praise to Jehovah not men.

"And they said to each other: “Were not our hearts burning within us as he was speaking to us on the road, as he was fully opening up the Scriptures to us?"

Moses was close to Jehovah's Glory, Jehovah's Love. As a result, Moses radiated so much Love-Glory that most people were uncomfortable with the extreme Love-Light and Moses put on a veil most of the time.

"When he came down from the mountain, Moses did not know that the skin of his face was emitting rays because he had been speaking with God.  When Aaron and all the Israelites saw Moses, they noticed that the skin of his face emitted rays and they were afraid to go near him...When Moses would finish speaking with them, he would put a veil over his face.  But when Moses would go in before Jehovah to speak with him, he would take off the veil until he went out...And the Israelites saw that the skin of Moses’ face emitted rays; then Moses put the veil back over his face until he went in to speak with God."

The governing body's love is cold. It is not glory from Jehovah. They are not close to Jehovah.

You will recognize the Love-Glory that is from Jehovah because it is Bright and Intense and praises Jehovah.

"For love is as strong as death is, 

And exclusive devotion is as unyielding as the Grave.  

Its flames are a blazing fire, the flame of Jah.

Surging waters cannot extinguish love, 

Nor can rivers wash it away."

The apostle John spoke about it in the first letter he wrote:

"...(yes, the life was made manifest, and we have seen and are bearing witness and reporting to you the everlasting life that was with the Father and was made manifest to us), that which we have seen and heard we are reporting also to you, so that you too may have fellowship with us. And this fellowship of ours is with the Father and with his Son Jesus Christ.  And we are writing these things so that our joy may be complete. This is the message that we heard from him and are announcing to you: God is light, and there is no darkness at all in him.  If we make the statement, “We are having fellowship with him,” and yet we go on walking in the darkness, we are lying and are not practicing the truth.  However, if we are walking in the light as he himself is in the light, we do have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin."

And again, "The one who says that he is in the light and yet hates his brother is still in the darkness.  The one who loves his brother remains in the light, and in him there is no cause for stumbling.  But the one who hates his brother is in the darkness and is walking in the darkness, and he does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes. I am writing you, little children, because your sins have been forgiven you for the sake of his name."

Can you see the Light-Love? It is very Bright and Warm!

And again, "See what sort of love the Father has given us, that we should be called children of God! And that is what we are. That is why the world does not know us, because it has not come to know him...The children of God and the children of the Devil are evident by this fact: Whoever does not practice righteousness does not originate with God, nor does the one who does not love his brother...Beloved ones, if this is how God loved us, then we are also under obligation to love one another.  No one has seen God at any time. If we continue loving one another, God remains in us and his love is made perfect in us.  By this we know that we are remaining in union with him and he in union with us, because he has given his spirit to us."

The intense love is His love. It is a reflection of His Light. He gives it to us and we share it with each other, we have love for each other, but its Source is From Him, Jehovah. He is the Source of the Light and the Love.

John was talking about God's Glory-Love-Spirit. No man has seen Jehovah's Glory in Heaven, but we can feel His Glory-Love by means of His Spirit-Force which He gives to us. When we reflect that Love-Glory to others, we are reflecting His Light. Pray-Sing-Thank Jehovah🥰💖

(Rather than "go down in a blaze of glory" of men that goes out cold, why not Look Up into the Everlasting Light-Heat-Love-Glory in Jehovah's Eyes...it is Warm-Comfort-Peaceful there and you will be made Complete with Him.💖😌)

15 minutes ago, boyle said:

Elders

I have love for the elders. I love all of Jehovah's family. We are one people, one family, to be united in love forever. His family is not limited to those with the human-bestowed title "Jehovah's Witnesses". 

I hope you have a good rest of your evening, my brother. 🙂 I have to get some rest for now, but I will do my best to answer any other questions later if it pleases you.

8 minutes ago, boyle said:

Can you supply me with a scripture where it specifically states, scripture is only meant for Elders? Doesn't scripture suggest, it's meant for anyone who falls out of God's Grace?

"Not being content with this, he refuses to welcome the brothers with respect; and those who want to welcome them, he tries to hinder and to throw out of the congregation."

The sheep in the congregation in general have no power to throw anyone out of the congregation. Only the wolf elders hinder and throw out honest brothers.

"In fact, when we were with you, we used to give you this order: “If anyone does not want to work, neither let him eat.”  For we hear that some are walking disorderly among you, not working at all, but meddling with what does not concern them.  To such people we give the order and exhortation in the Lord Jesus Christ that they should work quietly and eat food they themselves earn."

Making rules in the congregation in order to "meddle with what does not concern them" like education decisions or clothing decisions or beard decisions or things like that are what some wolf elders do who don't work, kind of like some of the elders at Bethel and some COs.

13 minutes ago, boyle said:

This observation has a specific theme. Are you saying all Elders assigned by Jehovah are wolves? Do you consider Jehovah's judgement to be poor?

No - there are many really awesome brothers serving as elders. Jehovah's judgment is never poor. Human judgment can be poor, and at present the way the elders are appointed is by humans, not by holy spirit.

22 minutes ago, boyle said:

28 minutes ago, AudreyAnnaNana said:

 "I love you" 

 But that wasn't the question, was it? I can go as far as saying, God also loves his creation with all his heart. It still wouldn't answer the question before you, wouldn't it?

What was the question again, my brother?🙂

20 minutes ago, boyle said:

28 minutes ago, AudreyAnnaNana said:

Jesus also called them "wolves in sheep's clothing".

 

Can't we all be considered that if we are not in the right side of God's commands?

No, the scriptures show that the "wolves in sheep's clothing" specifically refer to elders who act like wolves.

"And in all the things that they do understand by instinct like unreasoning animals, they go on corrupting themselves. Too bad for them, for they have followed the path of Cain and have rushed into the erroneous course of Baʹlaam for reward, and they have perished in the rebellious talk of Korʹah!  These are the rocks hidden below water at your love feasts while they feast with you, shepherds who feed themselves without fear; waterless clouds carried here and there by the wind; fruitless trees in late autumn, having died twice and having been uprooted;  wild waves of the sea that cast up the foam of their own shame; stars with no set course, for which the blackest darkness stands reserved forever."

Jude compares those "wolves" to Korah, an elder who served for fame and self-prominence. Jude also compares them to Balaam who desired to "serve" for profit and financial reward.

"The sixth one poured out his bowl on the great river Eu·phraʹtes, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the rising of the sun."

The river Euphrates was what protected the city of Babylon.

"Drying up" the river means removing its protection.

"The kings from the rising of the sun" were the kings of the nations of Medo-Persia who came to attack Babylon.

The nations who will attack Babylon the Great are the United Nations.

"The sixth angel blew his trumpet. And I heard one voice from the horns of the golden altar that is before God  say to the sixth angel who had the trumpet: “Untie the four angels who are bound at the great river Eu·phraʹtes.”  And the four angels who have been prepared for the hour and day and month and year were untied to kill a third of the people. The number of the armies of cavalry was two myriads of myriads; I heard the number of them.  And this is how I saw the horses in the vision and those seated on them: They had fire-red and hyacinth-blue and sulfur-yellow breastplates, and the heads of the horses were like the heads of lions, and fire and smoke and sulfur came out of their mouths.  A third of the people were killed by these three plagues, by the fire and the smoke and the sulfur that came out of their mouths.  For the authority of the horses is in their mouths and in their tails, for their tails are like serpents and have heads, and with these they inflict harm. But the rest of the people who were not killed by these plagues did not repent of the works of their hands; they did not stop worshipping the demons and the idols of gold and silver and copper and stone and wood, which can neither see nor hear nor walk.  And they did not repent of their murders nor of their spiritistic practices nor of their sexual immorality nor of their thefts."

The angels "bound at the great river Euphrates" have been holding back a restraint on the attack on false religion. The angels have been holding back the nations from attacking religion until now. 

"And now you know what is acting as a restraint, so that he will be revealed in his own due time.  True, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work, but only until the one who is right now acting as a restraint is out of the way.  Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence.  But the lawless one’s presence is by the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and wonders  and every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth in order that they might be saved.  That is why God lets a deceptive influence mislead them so that they may come to believe the lie,  in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness."

The governing body are among the lawless ones. They will be revealed as lawless when Jehovah allows them to be removed during the UN attack on false religion.

"After this I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding tight the four winds of the earth, so that no wind could blow on the earth or on the sea or on any tree.  And I saw another angel ascending from the sunrise, having a seal of the living God; and he called with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea,  saying: “Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until after we have sealed the slaves of our God in their foreheads.” And I heard the number of those who were sealed, 144,000, sealed out of every tribe of the sons of Israel."

The sealing of the 144,000 is coming to a completion, that is why Jesus is revealing "the man of lawlessness". The four angels will soon be removing the restraint that is preventing the nations from attacking false religion. 

"However, brothers, concerning the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you not to be quickly shaken from your reason nor to be alarmed either by an inspired statement or by a spoken message or by a letter appearing to be from us, to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here. Let no one lead you astray in any way, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. He stands in opposition and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits down in the temple of God, publicly showing himself to be a god."

Jesus did not take the throne in 1914. The "day of Jehovah" did not start in 1914. The men of lawlessness, those who apostatized, have said such things. They are being revealed by Jesus as frauds.  

4 minutes ago, boyle said:

50 minutes ago, AudreyAnnaNana said:

I see myself in this part of the verse: "Also, they will greedily exploit Audrey with counterfeit words." Of course, you could add your name in there too, and all the other Jehovah's Witnesses who have been exploited by their counterfeit words.

 

It's that someone else's fault, or have you placed yourself in that position?

I have free will. Thankfully I am not being exploited by their counterfeit words anymore. Thanks for asking!😉

7 minutes ago, boyle said:

Should it be mandatory for them to say it even though they have expressed it hundreds of times? Do you personally know "if" Jesus was running around, telling every single person, by the way, I love you, each and every day? Would you fault Jesus if he just expressed his love to a multitude?

When Jesus said "I love you" he meant it. 

43 minutes ago, AudreyAnnaNana said:

Calling a snake "a snake" is not abusive speech. I love the men on the governing body, but they are naughty. The men on the governing body are snakes. Jesus said it's okay to tell the truth about such things. He told us to follow his example in telling the truth. I love Jesus.😌🥰💖

Jesus also called them "wolves in sheep's clothing".

11 minutes ago, boyle said:

calling an apostate, an apostate is NOT abusive speech

The men on the governing body are apostates. They have apostatized from the teachings of Christ. That also makes them antiChrists.

"And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four living creatures say with a voice like thunder: “Come!”  And I saw, and look! a white horse, and the one seated on it had a bow; and a crown was given him, and he went out conquering and to complete his conquest."

Once Jesus receives the kingdom, he figuratively "opens" the seven seals.

He will begin his ride to cleanse the organization. He will ride to cleanse the reproach off of Jehovah's Name. He will ride vigorously like Jehu did when he got his assignment.

Jehu removed Jezebel before the nation had a chance to know what was going on. It will be similar when Jesus removes all the "Jezebel-like" men taking the lead in the organization. They will be removed in an instant, like a thief in the night, whenever it is they are saying "peace and security". 

We have not been in the conclusion of the system of things. The conclusion happens after Jesus takes the throne. He didn't take the throne in 1914. When he takes the throne, a lot of things will change very quickly. The organization will be cleansed and refined.

"The harvest is a conclusion of a system of things, and the reapers are angels.  Therefore, just as the weeds are collected and burned with fire, so it will be in the conclusion of the system of things.  The Son of man will send his angels, and they will collect out from his Kingdom all things that cause stumbling and people who practice lawlessness,  and they will pitch them into the fiery furnace. There is where their weeping and the gnashing of their teeth will be. At that time the righteous ones will shine as brightly as the sun in the Kingdom of their Father. Let the one who has ears listen."

1 hour ago, boyle said:

Isn't your negative talk about the GB abusive speech?

If I tell you that the weather is stormy, do you call that an abusive weather report because it's negative? If I tell you the milk is soured and the bread is moldy, do you call that an abusive food analysis because it's negative?

I am not abusive. Not toward the governing body or anyone else.

Here is what Jesus said to the Pharisees: "Offspring of vipers, how can you speak good things when you are wicked? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks." 

Calling a snake "a snake" is not abusive speech. I love the men on the governing body, but they are naughty. The men on the governing body are snakes. Jesus said it's okay to tell the truth about such things. He told us to follow his example in telling the truth. I love Jesus.😌🥰💖

1 hour ago, boyle said:

1 hour ago, AudreyAnnaNana said:

"However, there also came to be false prophets among the people, as there will also be false teachers among you. These will quietly bring in destructive sects, and they will even disown the owner who bought them, bringing speedy destruction upon themselves.  Furthermore, many will follow their brazen conduct, and because of them the way of the truth will be spoken of abusively.  Also, they will greedily exploit you with counterfeit words. But their judgment, decided long ago, is not moving slowly, and their destruction is not sleeping."

This is a good point. How do you personally see yourself from this perspective? 

I see myself in this part of the verse: "Also, they will greedily exploit Audrey with counterfeit words." Of course, you could add your name in there too, and all the other Jehovah's Witnesses who have been exploited by their counterfeit words.

Here is an example of their counterfeit words..."We love you very much!" 

How many times have you heard that at the end of an Update or Broadcast by a member of the governing body? 

If someone loves you and you write to them hundreds of times begging for their assistance or attention to a serious matter, do you expect that they might respond? Sure, maybe they're busy, but what if they do eventually respond by revoking your privilege of attending meetings and sending back your letter with a big red "REJECTED" stamp on it? Does that sound like someone who "loves you very much?"

No. That sounds like a counterfeiter. Someone who is exploiting you, asking you for money so they can live in a nice place on the lake with free healthcare and slaves to cook and clean for them.

1 hour ago, boyle said:

Jesus gave us revised laws that included love. Should true Christians only focus on the laws they like? What about the laws they don't like from Christ? Should a true Chritian "disobey" them because it doesn't benefit them?

A Christian should obey all the laws from the Christ. What laws are you talking about specifically?

1 hour ago, boyle said:

the grace of God, I always have

I am very pleased, my brother, to hear of your confidence in God's undeserved kindness towards you. He is merciful toward us all, and   it pleases me to hear you express such faith in Him. You are right to praise Him for His grace towards you.🥰 He does love you very much.

1 hour ago, boyle said:

Jesus instruction challenged his true followers to reframe, from associating with the wicked. Do you disagree with Jesus?

I will always agree with Jesus, because He is always right.

He was right when he lowered himself and became as a slave.

"Do nothing out of contentiousness or out of egotism, but with humility consider others superior to you, as you look out not only for your own interests, but also for the interests of others. Keep this mental attitude in you that was also in Christ Jesus, who, although he was existing in God’s form, did not even consider the idea of trying to be equal to God. No, but he emptied himself and took a slave’s form and became human. More than that, when he came as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death, yes, death on a torture stake."

Who did Jesus minister to? Criminals. Prostitutes. Sinners. He associated with the wicked in order to minister to them.

"Jesus called them to him and said: “You know that the rulers of the nations lord it over them and the great men wield authority over them.  This must not be the way among you; but whoever wants to become great among you must be your minister,  and whoever wants to be first among you must be your slave.  Just as the Son of man came, not to be ministered to, but to minister and to give his life as a ransom in exchange for many.”"

Jesus commanded that we associate with sinners in order to minister to them.

"He said to them: “If you have one sheep and that sheep falls into a pit on the Sabbath, is there a man among you who will not grab hold of it and lift it out?  How much more valuable is a man than a sheep! So it is lawful to do a fine thing on the Sabbath.”"

If a sheep falls into a pit, you go get it out. Do you not go into the pit because you're afraid of getting your clothes dirty? No. You don't care about getting your clothes dirty. You go get the sheep.

"How much more valuable is a man than a sheep!"

1 hour ago, boyle said:

Paul received the same inspiration that Jesus received from God. Do you believe we should just take the bible verbatim and exclude other wicked things humans are capable of doing?

Please restate the question, I'm not sure what you're talking about. Yes, holy spirit inspired the Bible writers. Yes, it's the same holy spirit that empowered Jesus to do miracles. The Bible is God's Word. We should try to be good. Is that what you're asking? I don't understand the question, maybe you could kindly rephrase it for me, I'm kind of simple.🙂

1 hour ago, boyle said:

Wasn't this meant for those that had yet to know God or understand God's word correctly? The Pharisees were adding to Moses commandments and god's law.

But what did Jesus say about those that had repented and had received God's Holy Spirit, then turned away from Christ's love and God's command?  Were they supposed to be treated as an unbeliever once again? The bible doesn't indicate that. It does indicate true followers should treat those wicked as tax collectors. Do you know how the Jews viewed a tax collector?

Jesus ate with tax collectors.

Jesus didn't qualify "enemies" as to anyone specific.

I think you are referring to this verse:

"For as regards those who were once enlightened and who have tasted the heavenly free gift and who have become partakers of holy spirit and who have tasted the fine word of God and powers of the coming system of things, but have fallen away, it is impossible to revive them again to repentance, because they nail the Son of God to the stake again for themselves and expose him to public shame."

That verse is talking specifically about certain anointed Christians. It's not talking about someone who learned about Jehovah and Jesus and then decided it wasn't for them, or who sinned or stumbled and didn't repent right away. It is talking about someone like Judas Iscariot who "tasted the heavenly free gift" and actively rejected that calling.

1 John 2 talks about such ones as antiChrists who knew what it was like to be part of the body of Christ as anointed Christians but who actively separated themselves from the holy spirit by means of teaching lies, false doctrine, about Jesus. That is what the governing body is in danger of doing today. They are not teaching the truth about the power of the ransom to redeem the brothers or others (the disfellowshipping doctrine as currently practiced puts the power of so-called judicial committees of men above the power of the ransom blood). The governing body have also separated themselves from the body of Christ by attempting to cut off other anointed Christians who adhere to the word of God and the leading of the holy spirit as poured out by the Christ. Jesus is coming to remove all unrepentant antiChrists from Jehovah's organization very soon.

1 hour ago, boyle said:

Like you said, should Jehovah's witnesses follow dedicated responsible men that are assigned by God, or ourselves because, we refuse to follow Jesus instructions and footsteps?

Are you talking about the governing body? They are currently exercising authority in the organization. Jehovah has permitted them to exercise this authority, just like He permitted Herod and Pilate to exercise authority.

"Pay back, therefore, Caesar’s things to Caesar, but God’s things to God."

It is wise to respect authority. Jehovah is the Highest Authority. He has given authority to His Son.

Jesus said: "All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth."

"Christ suffered for you, leaving a model for you to follow his steps closely."

"My sheep listen to my voice, and I know them, and they follow me."

"And whoever does not accept his torture stake and follow after me is not worthy of me."

Jesus gave us the kingly law of love: "I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another."

The governing body is telling people to not show love. They are false teachers. The God's Word speaks about them...

"However, there also came to be false prophets among the people, as there will also be false teachers among you. These will quietly bring in destructive sects, and they will even disown the owner who bought them, bringing speedy destruction upon themselves.  Furthermore, many will follow their brazen conduct, and because of them the way of the truth will be spoken of abusively.  Also, they will greedily exploit you with counterfeit words. But their judgment, decided long ago, is not moving slowly, and their destruction is not sleeping."

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Is that the fault of true Christians that follow Jesus instruction to keep away from the Wicked? Are you speaking for Christ and God? 

I need not be considered. These things are recorded in God's Word...

"I do not request that you take them out of the world, but that you watch over them because of the wicked one."

Jesus never said to shun the wicked. He acknowledged that true Christians have to live in a wicked world.

Under inspiration Paul wrote: "In my letter I wrote you to stop keeping company with sexually immoral people, not meaning entirely with the sexually immoral people of this world or the greedy people or extortioners or idolaters. Otherwise, you would actually have to get out of the world."

Then he went on to say not to worship with people who accept unclean ways of life. It would be improper to let a person pray at a congregation meeting who is in an immoral relationship. It would be improper to let a person teach at a congregation meeting if that person is an unrepentant drunkard. 

"But now I am writing you to stop keeping company with anyone called a brother who is sexually immoral or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man."

When Paul was talking about "not even eating with" the context shows he was talking about not eating the Lord's evening meal with an unrepentant wrongdoer. The verses just prior show this:

"So, then, let us keep the festival, not with old leaven, nor with leaven of badness and wickedness, but with unleavened bread of sincerity and truth."

He wasn't saying to never talk to or never eat with people who do unrighteous behaviors. He was saying not to do worship with them if they are actively choosing to do something they know God doesn't like. We are still supposed to show love for them. It's a command from Jesus, and he gets his authority from Jehovah God.

Jesus said: "On the contrary, continue to love your enemies and to do good and to lend without hoping for anything back; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind toward the unthankful and wicked. Continue being merciful, just as your Father is merciful." 

It's not "showing love" to someone to ignore them and act like they are dead even though they're living. 

“Moreover, stop judging, and you will by no means be judged; and stop condemning, and you will by no means be condemned. Keep on forgiving, and you will be forgiven."

Jesus told us what it means to be a neighbor.

The current governing body tells us God doesn't want us to treat certain people as a neighbor.

You can choose who you want to follow, Christ or the governing body. You can't do both. "We must obey God as ruler rather than men." When men tell us to disobey Christ, we must not have fear of man.

"By their fruits you will recognize them."

(Jehovah has left His Name on His organization. Jesus is coming to remove the lawless ones who are sitting as gods in the House of God. When the governing body is removed during the great tribulation, it will become ever so clear which doctrines were false and which were true.)

That was nice of you. 

So many people are "goin' hungry" in so many ways. For food, for assistance, for affection.

The seven plagues, trumpets, seals, bowls, thunders, they are all expressing different aspects of the beginning of the great tribulation. They are expressing God's judgment on false religion in slightly different ways, as well as revealing the debased condition of beastly human governmental powers. The seven plagues, trumpets, seals, bowls, thunders all take place after Jesus is enthroned in heaven and Satan is cast down to the earth. Jesus was not enthroned in 1914. When he is enthroned, all these other things will take place in rapid succession. Daniel shows we are near that time at present, because Putin is coming to his end, and there is no helper for him. Michael will stand up soon to take the throne and the great tribulation will begin.

During that time, we will need to have strong love in order to endure. We must show love for not just our friends, but also for our enemies. We have to overcome these petty prejudices and foolish class distinctions. It is the only way to survive what is coming. "God is Love." We must have love for all our neighbors. It is the only way to survive.

Ex-JW or JW, apostate or orthodox, whatever race, whatever sexual orientation, religious or atheist - "disfellowshipped" or "shunned" is not something that should be in the vocabulary of a true Christian...we must show love for all humans because they are made in God's image. It doesn't mean we have to agree with all their personal life choices or closely held doctrines. But we need to be willing to help them if they need help, if they are the ones beat-up on the side of the road.

There are no caste systems in love.

"Who of these three seems to you to have made himself neighbor to the man who fell victim to the robbers?”  

"He said: “The one who acted mercifully toward him.” 

"Jesus then said to him: “Go and do the same yourself.""

Jesus taught that our Love should Overcome our Prejudice:

"Now look! a man versed in the Law stood up to test him and said: “Teacher, what do I need to do to inherit everlasting life?”  

"He said to him: “What is written in the Law? How do you read?”  

"In answer he said: “‘You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole strength and with your whole mind’ and ‘your neighbor as yourself.’”  

"He said to him: “You answered correctly; keep doing this and you will get life.” 

"But wanting to prove himself righteous, the man said to Jesus: “Who really is my neighbor?”  

"In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jerʹi·cho and fell victim to robbers, who stripped him, beat him, and went off, leaving him half-dead.  

"Now by coincidence a priest was going down on that road, but when he saw him, he passed by on the opposite side.  

"Likewise, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the opposite side.  

"But a certain Sa·marʹi·tan traveling the road came upon him, and at seeing him, he was moved with pity.  

"So he approached him and bandaged his wounds, pouring oil and wine on them. 

"Then he mounted him on his own animal and brought him to an inn and took care of him.  

"The next day he took out two de·narʹi·i, gave them to the innkeeper, and said: ‘Take care of him, and whatever you spend besides this, I will repay you when I return.’  

"Who of these three seems to you to have made himself neighbor to the man who fell victim to the robbers?”  

"He said: “The one who acted mercifully toward him.” 

"Jesus then said to him: “Go and do the same yourself.""

Many ancient Jews were prejudiced against Samaritans.

"Who really is my neighbor?"

We are all neighbors on this earth. The planet is a small place, really.

Some neighbors include...