John 12.24to28

I don't show 2 "New Covenants". A covenant is a contract where a covenanter is involved.

What does "who so" mean? I don't understand. Do you want me to prove that I tell the truth? Is that what you mean? Prove that I can tell the truth as an imperfect being? Well, you can read other stuff I've posted and check up on it. I am imperfect, so sometimes I make mistakes like everyone else, but I do my best to tell the truth. I am like an open book, I don't typically hide stuff, unless it's from someone who I know wants to hurt me. But you don't have to believe me. Usually it's a good idea to get to know a person and over time judge whether or not they are trustworthy.

The context was Jesus' parable about the prodigal son, but the reason for the scripture was to show that a good father shares everything he has with his son.

It's not just a "theology" or "understanding"...it's what the Bible says. You'll see it when it happens. (Why is it so difficult for people to think that God would want to hang out with all His kids? Lol... It's so funny! For so long the earth's been in darkness, it's like the idea of light is unbelievable😆) Jehovah is not partial. He doesn't make divisions in His Love.

Are you? Yes.☺️

There is no need for two covenants in the way you are describing, because it is one family. If Adam and Eve had been faithful, their kids would inherit everything that belonged to Adam and Eve. They'd all live together on the earth. Adam would be the oldest family head. He was supposed to stay alive and share his knowledge and his home, the whole earth. Adam wasn't faithful. Jesus took his place. Jesus is old, so he could actually take Adam's place and be able to share information. It wouldn't be fitting for someone younger than Adam to take his place, because ideally the eldest should the lead in helping the younger, and share what they know. When Jesus takes Adam's place, Jesus inherits all the children. There is no need for another covenant. The "bride" is a new creation that becomes "one flesh" with the Christ in a figurative way that is similar to a wife with her husband, a helper, to take care of the kids. The kids don't need to be in the covenant, or marriage, contract, because they are the fruits of that contract. They are the precious ones. They are the whole reason for the marriage. There would be no need for the new covenant if it wasn't for the children on earth. The whole thing is for the purpose of giving them everything, the "other sheep". That's the whole reason for all of this. The other sheep are the real "Benefactors" but it's not in the sense the world uses the word, it's in that they are the ones primarily benefiting from the covenant. They are the ones who are going to be ministered to, waited on, served. It's the opposite of what is portrayed in a lot of publications.

Matthew 5:3 "Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the Kingdom of the heavens belongs to them."

Luke 15:31 "Then he said to him, ‘My son, you have always been with me, and all the things that are mine are yours."

None are "benefactors" in the sense of being like worldly kings. Luke 22:25,26 "But he said to them: “The kings of the nations lord it over them, and those having authority over them are called Benefactors. You, though, are not to be that way. But let the one who is the greatest among you become as the youngest, and the one taking the lead as the one ministering."

The figurative "city" on earth in Ezekiel... Ezekiel 48:35 "And the name of the city from that day on will be Jehovah Is There." It's not just figurative when God wipes the tears away... Revelation 7:17 "because the Lamb, who is in the midst of the throne, will shepherd them and will guide them to springs of waters of life. And God will wipe out every tear from their eyes.” Revelation 21:3-5 "“Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them. And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.” And the One seated on the throne said: “Look! I am making all things new.” Also he says: “Write, for these words are faithful and true.”" Jehovah said He is coming to the earth... Revelation 1:8 "I am the Alʹpha and the O·meʹga,” says Jehovah God, “the One who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty.” Jesus said everybody would see him, not just the ones whose abode is in heaven... Revelation 1:7 "Look! He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, and those who pierced him; and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief because of him. Yes, Amen." Hundreds of people saw Jesus after he was resurrected, before he ascended to heaven. Jesus materialized a body. Paul said that the anointed ones would be resurrected in the same way. They will have a spirit body, but they will be able to materialize a physical body. Just like Jesus visited and ate with and talked with the disciples after he was resurrected, so the anointed will do the same. Romans 6:5 "If we have become united with him in the likeness of his death, we will certainly also be united with him in the likeness of his resurrection." John warned about those who teach that Jesus did not come in the flesh. 2 John 7 "For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those not acknowledging Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist." 1 John 4:2 "This is how you know that the inspired statement is from God: Every inspired statement that acknowledges Jesus Christ as having come in the flesh originates with God." Jesus was born as a man. He came "in the flesh" in that way. But he also materialized a body made of flesh after he was resurrected. All things are possible with God. Genesis 3:8 "Jehovah God as he was walking in the garden" "the day, and the man and his wife hid from the face of Jehovah God" Jehovah God will walk with his kids in the garden again. Ezekiel 48:35 "And the name of the city from that day on will be Jehovah Is There." A good administrator isn't far away. A good general isn't far away. A good leader is right in the midst of the people. The kingdoms of the world are set up the opposite of Jehovah's way. Jehovah will be in the midst of His people. Jesus will be here. The anointed will be here. With materialized bodies. Ephesians 1:8-10 "This undeserved kindness he caused to abound toward us in all wisdom and understanding by making known to us the sacred secret of his will. It is according to his good pleasure that he himself purposed for an administration at the full limit of the appointed times, to gather all things together in the Christ, the things in the heavens and the things on the earth."

"Partake" is different than "benefit from". When I used the word "partake" I meant partaking of the emblems at the Memorial meal. The other sheep will be blessed by it. They are the ones who inherit everything. Abraham gave up his son figuratively but gained him back. Jehovah gave up Jesus temporarily but gained him back. The 144,000 give up the ability to have children via procreation but gain the children back by means of the figurative "wedding" to Christ. Jehovah did not allow himself to be permanently separated from His firstborn son. Jehovah takes the lead in all things. He doesn't ask us to do anything that He wouldn't do himself. He will not separate families by making some go to heaven and some stay on earth and never interact or hang out. That would be hell. Jehovah doesn't do "hell". Satan tries to mislead people so they'll hate Jehovah. Satan is a liar. When the GB teaches that Jesus and the anointed and the angels will not come down and interact on earth during the Paradise, the GB is not telling the truth. Heaven is close to earth. All things are possible with God. The anointed and Christ will be here on earth. So will Jehovah. We've already talked about this on other threads, but we can again if you like the topic. I like that topic. 🥰

The New covenant is not part of the Kingdom covenant, but they are related. Everyone who lives forever on earth will benefit from the New Covenant, but that does not make them part of the covenant, partakers of the covenant. The New Covenant was to make a New Creation that could be married to Jesus figuratively. The New Covenant was Jehovah adopting the 144,000 as a New Creation so they could be the same "kind" of creature as Jesus. The Kingdom Covenant is like the engagement contract between Jesus and the 144,000. Anyone who is not part of the "Kingdom covenant" does not need to be in the new covenant because they are figurative children of those already in the covenant. In other words, they are adopted as kids of Christ and the figurative bride. They inherit everything. The relationship with God, the relationship with Jesus, the earth. Everything. Since Jesus is clean, the children are clean. "now they are holy" 1 Corinthians 7:14 "For the unbelieving husband is sanctified in relation to his wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified in relation to the brother; otherwise, your children would be unclean, but now they are holy." The "great crowd" of Revelation are those who learn about God and want to go with God's people during the great tribulation. The "Israel" in Revelation are all those who know God and love Him and believe in Jesus at present. The "Israel" in that context is not just the firstfruits. The "Israel" of Revelation is the same as the 12 tribes referred to when Jesus told those in the Kingdom covenant they would judge the 12 tribes of Israel. Israel just means all "God's people" on earth in that context. The "144,000" in Revelation are the "firstfruits", a new creation and become the figurative "bride" of Christ. 1 Kings 3:24-27 "The king said: “Bring me a sword.” So they brought a sword to the king. The king then said: “Cut the living child in two, and give half to one woman and half to the other.” At once the woman whose son was the living one pleaded with the king, for her compassions were stirred toward her son. She said: “Please, my lord! You should give her the living child! By no means put him to death!” But the other woman was saying: “He will be neither mine nor yours! Let them cut him in two!” At that the king answered: “Give the living child to the first woman! By no means put him to death, for she is his mother.”" The GB are either fake anointed or they are horribly grieving the holy spirit. No "mother" would cut off their own kids the way the GB does with their wicked disfellowshipping doctrine. 1 John 2:26-29 "I write you these things about those who are trying to mislead you. And as for you, the anointing that you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to be teaching you; but the anointing from him is teaching you about all things and is true and is no lie. Just as it has taught you, remain in union with him. So now, little children, remain in union with him, so that when he is made manifest we may have freeness of speech and not shrink away from him in shame at his presence. If you know that he is righteous, you also know that everyone who practices righteousness has been born from him." Paul described his deep inward emotions toward people: "In fact, you know that we never used flattering speech or put on any false front with greedy motives; God is witness! Nor have we been seeking glory from men, either from you or from others, though we could be an expensive burden as apostles of Christ. On the contrary, we became gentle in your midst, as when a nursing mother tenderly cares for her own children. So having tender affection for you, we were determined to impart to you, not only the good news of God but also our very selves, because you became so beloved to us." Anyone who is going to be part of a "bride" needs to have the desire to wait on the children of the husband. A "bride" doesn't expect to be catered to by the children, or worshipped by the children. It's just an illustration, but it's the same feeling as the deep emotional attachment, the desire to protect and nourish, the same as the deep longing a mother has for the child forming in the womb. Galatians 4:19 "my little children, for whom I am again experiencing birth pains until Christ is formed in you" Any person can have such deep feelings for other people. But especially should someone claiming to be "anointed" have them. Luke 12:48 "Indeed, everyone to whom much was given, much will be demanded of him, and the one who was put in charge of much will have more than usual demanded of him."

"Think..." Wise counsel! "Safeguard practical wisdom and thinking ability." (Proverbs 3:21) If you feed your dog Alpo, he'll eat Alpo. If you feed your dog pizza, he'll eat pizza. He doesn't care what his teeth look like. What kind of teeth does an eagle have? And what does Jehovah feed it? "Is it by your understanding that the falcon soars, Spreading its wings to the south? Or is it at your order that an eagle flies upward And builds its nest high up, Spending the night on a cliff, Dwelling in its stronghold on a rocky crag? From there it searches for food; Its eyes look far into the distance. Its young sip up blood; And wherever the slain are, there it is.”" (Job 39:26-30) What kind of teeth does a hippopotamus have? And what does Jehovah feed it? "Here, now, is Be·heʹmoth, which I made as I made you. It eats grass like a bull. Look at the strength in its hips And the power in the muscles of its belly! It stiffens its tail like a cedar; The sinews of its thighs are woven together. Its bones are tubes of copper; Its limbs are like wrought-iron rods. It ranks first among the works of God; Only its Maker can approach it with his sword. For the mountains produce food for it, Where all the wild animals play. It lies down under the lotus trees, In the shelter of the reeds of the marsh. The lotus trees cast their shadow on it, And the poplars of the valley surround it. If the river is turbulent, it does not panic. It is confident, although the Jordan rushes against its mouth. Can anyone capture it while it is watching, Or pierce its nose with a hook?" (Job 40:15-24) If Jehovah wants to feed them meat, they'll eat meat. If Jehovah wants to feed them straw, they'll eat straw. They don't care what kind of teeth they have. "Who prepares food for the raven When its young cry to God for help And wander about because there is nothing to eat?" (Job 38:41) "The wolf and the lamb will feed together, The lion will eat straw just like the bull, And the serpent’s food will be dust. They will do no harm nor cause any ruin in all my holy mountain,” says Jehovah." (Isaiah 65:25) 🦷🤭😁 As Dr. Teeth said, "Can you picture that?" 😄🥰🎶💞

Oh, @Arauna had put a quote within a quote didn't make it clear that it was you who was quoting somebody, so it looked like I had said something that someone else said, and it seemed right that you get credit for it, so I took a screenshot and circled your name for you.

Jesus said there would be weeds among the wheat. It will be a beautiful day when the weeds are removed, and Jehovah's name is cleared of reproach.🙂💖

Yeah, the way it got posted made it look like it was me saying it, even though it wasn't.🙂 It's okay...no big deal, but thank you for clarifying it🌷

"Then they prayed and said: “You, O Jehovah, who know the hearts of all..." (Acts 1:24) "Let the wicked man leave his way And the evil man his thoughts; Let him return to Jehovah, who will have mercy on him, To our God, for he will forgive in a large way. “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, And your ways are not my ways,” declares Jehovah. “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So my ways are higher than your ways And my thoughts than your thoughts." (Isaiah 55:7-9) "Yes, among them we all at one time conducted ourselves in harmony with the desires of our flesh, carrying out the will of the flesh and of our thoughts, and we were naturally children of wrath just as the rest. But God, being rich in mercy, because of his great love with which he loved us, made us alive together with the Christ, even when we were dead in trespasses—by undeserved kindness you have been saved." (Ephesians 2:3-5) "For your part, brothers, do not give up in doing good." (2 Thessalonians 3:13) "...the need for them always to pray and not to give up..." (Luke 18:1) "...now you should instead kindly forgive and comfort him, so that he may not be overwhelmed by excessive sadness. I therefore exhort you to confirm your love for him." (2 Corinthians 2:5-8) 💖 Love you, my brother - Goodnight for now, @redHarmonioussparrow🙂🌷🌿

"When he saw their faith, he said: “Man, your sins are forgiven.” Then the scribes and the Pharisees started to reason, saying: “Who is this who speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins except God alone?” But Jesus, discerning their reasoning, said in answer to them: “What are you reasoning in your hearts? Which is easier, to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or to say, ‘Get up and walk’? But in order for you to know that the Son of man has authority on earth to forgive sins—” he said to the paralyzed man: “I say to you, Get up, pick up your stretcher, and go to your home.” At that he stood up before them, picked up what he had been lying on, and went to his home, glorifying God. Then one and all were seized with amazement, and they began to glorify God, and they became filled with awe, saying: “We have seen wonderful things today!”" (Luke 5:20-25) Jehovah is patient with sinners because they are His children and He is a Good Dad. We have to have patience too, because we need Him, and He's the only One who can fix things, but it's at His appointed time. We have to be patient. "Jehovah is not slow concerning his promise, as some people consider slowness, but he is patient with you because he does not desire anyone to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance." (2 Peter 3:9) Jehovah doesn't expect from us more than we can give. Even though we are sinners, He sees us through the merits of the ransom and loves us "the way we are" as we try our best to do what is right, because He understands it's not possible for us to be perfect now. Jehovah is not unreasonable. He knows when we're trying. He loves us now even though we're not perfect, because He sees the good in us and He sees what we can be in the future. "That is why it is through faith, so that it might be according to undeserved kindness...This was in the sight of God, in whom he had faith, who makes the dead alive and calls the things that are not as though they are. Although beyond hope, yet based on hope, he had faith...not waver in a lack of faith; but he became powerful by his faith, giving God glory and being fully convinced that what He had promised He was also able to do. Therefore, “it was counted to him as righteousness.”" (Romans 4:16-22) "But God recommends his own love to us in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." (Romans 5:8) Jehovah "takes us the way we are" as far as loving us enough now to send His son as a ransom for us, "while we were yet sinners". We have to keep working on things, of course, but God's Love is so huge, He loved us before we knew about Him, before we knew about the ransom, before we started to turn around. He loves us while we are "worldly" so that we have a chance to repent. His love is what gives us the chance. "For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

"At this the Pharisees and their scribes began murmuring to his disciples, saying: “Why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and sinners?” In reply Jesus said to them: “Those who are healthy do not need a physician, but those who are ill do. I have come to call, not righteous people, but sinners to repentance.”" (Luke 5:30-32)

So, it seems the lesson is simple: don't scoff and don't reject the Kingdom. Or another way to put it, if someone has been scoffing, just stop it. And if someone has been rejecting the Kingdom, just stop it. It's not complicated.🙂 "If you know these things, happy you are if you do them." (John 13:17) (Jesus said if a man comes and asks for forgiveness for the same sin even 77 times a day to forgive him...how much more so Jehovah wants to embrace all His kids - He forgave Manasseh who sinned in a huge way on purpose to offend Jehovah. Jehovah forgave Manasseh when Manasseh repented. It's not too late for people who want to to repent.💖🤗🥲)

"Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him. God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth.” The woman said to him: “I know that Mes·siʹah is coming, who is called Christ. Whenever that one comes, he will declare all things to us openly.” Jesus said to her: “I am he, the one speaking to you.”" (John 4:23-26) Jesus is coming. He will make it clear which doctrines are true and which are false. Thankfully, "love covers a multitude of sins." (Isn't there somebody on here who likes to say "Hanlon's razor" quite a bit?😁) Jesus' name means "Salvation of Jah" or "Jehovah is Salvation". "Righteous Father, the world has, indeed, not come to know you, but I know you, and these have come to know that you sent me. I have made your name known to them and will make it known, so that the love with which you loved me may be in them and I in union with them." (John 17:25,26) "...they will have to know that I am Jehovah. I will make my holy name known among my people Israel, and I will not allow my holy name to be profaned any longer; and the nations will have to know that I am Jehovah, the Holy One in Israel." (Ezekiel 39:6,7)

@Matthew9969 that's the first time I've heard that song - I really like it!☺️ Some of the lyrics said: "If I could go back in time what would I change of mine?...It takes time to figure out..." (I wish I could go back in time and show more love💖, but since we can't go back I'm glad we have the present and the future... ) "...time to love..." (Ecclesiastes 3:8) The time will soon come when religious institutions will be gone like dust in the wind, but individuals who love God will survive. When it's time for all the religious institutions to get their big wreck, the individuals who love God will still be here. As Jesus clears away the false doctrines and divisions, we will all see more clearly the love for God that unites us. More love for each other is what we'll wish we had sooner (I know that's what I would change if I could go back in time) - we can't go back but we can cultivate more love for the days ahead. "For no one can lay any other foundation than what is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if anyone builds on the foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, or straw, each one’s work will be shown for what it is, for the day will show it up, because it will be revealed by means of fire, and the fire itself will prove what sort of work each one has built." (1 Corinthians 3:11-13) "Love builds up." (1 Corinthians 8:1) ( @Matthew9969 This is just a side question, I have always wondered about your profile icon picture...did you design it? What does it mean? Would you be willing to explain it sometime? It looks emotionally painful and intriguing and begging to be explained - if you want to, my brother, and if it's appropriate some time, please would you be willing to say more about why you selected it?)

I think you're trying to be funny somehow. Is it working for you? Perhaps you should stay on the topic instead of trying to undermine it. Some people are very serious when they play cards. Perhaps you are one of those people? I didn't mean to make a joke about cards, but if you think it was funny, I'm glad I could bring a little levity to your heart.😉 Thank you for the good counsel. 🙂💖 There are many religions that claim to be Christian. In the video, Matt asks the question about the elephant in the room, whether not a certain religious group should be considered Christian. He gave his answer based on how he was organizing his chart, but Jesus gave us a better way to identify Christians. Jesus didn't say we would identify a Christian by whether or not they belonged to a certain group. He said it would be by their individual fruits, more specifically, their love. "I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another. By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves." (John 13:34,35) "This is my commandment, that you love one another just as I have loved you." (John 15:12) "Just as the Father has loved me, so I have loved you; remain in my love. If you observe my commandments, you will remain in my love, just as I have observed the commandments of the Father and remain in his love." (John 15:9,10) "Whoever does the will of God, this one is my brother and sister and mother.” (Mark 3:35) "Despite that, the solid foundation of God remains standing, having this seal, “Jehovah knows those who belong to him,” and, “Let everyone calling on the name of Jehovah renounce unrighteousness.”" (2 Timothy 2:19) Soon the Pharisaical parts of all these religious groups/institutions will melt away. "The mountains melt like wax before Jehovah, Before the Lord of the whole earth." (Psalm 97:5) "But Jehovah’s day will come as a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar, but the elements being intensely hot will be dissolved, and earth and the works in it will be exposed. Since all these things are to be dissolved in this way, consider what sort of people you ought to be in holy acts of conduct and deeds of godly devotion, as you await and keep close in mind the presence of the day of Jehovah, through which the heavens will be destroyed in flames and the elements will melt in the intense heat!" (2 Peter 3:10-12) Individual Christians will survive. "For no one can lay any other foundation than what is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if anyone builds on the foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, or straw, each one’s work will be shown for what it is, for the day will show it up, because it will be revealed by means of fire, and the fire itself will prove what sort of work each one has built." (1 Corinthians 3:11-13) When the divisions and sects are gone, it will be that Christlike love for God and each other that will remain. "Furthermore, the world is passing away and so is its desire, but the one who does the will of God remains forever." (1 John 2:17) It is the will of God that we love one another. ""So keep strict watch that how you walk is not as unwise but as wise persons, making the best use of your time, because the days are wicked. On this account stop being unreasonable, but keep perceiving what the will of Jehovah is." (Ephesians 5:15-17)

Regarding the use of the word "times" in the scriptures... "Times" does not mean "some period called 'The Gentile Times' starting from 607 BCE". Daniel chapter 4 in context says nothing about such an interpretation. It is the context that shows what the word "times" means. Here is an example of how context affects understanding of the word "times" from Daniel chapter 11... https://biblehub.com/library/yonge/the_chosen_people/lesson_xviii_the_maccabees.htm The context shows the "times" referred to in Daniel 11:13,14 referred to events prior to the revolt during the time of the Maccabees, which is referred to in the latter part of verse 14. When Jesus talked about "the appointed times of the nations" in context it shows he meant the time of the great tribulation, the three and a half years that the UN will rule and destroy religious institutions. It will be the greatest calamity ever to face mankind. "The appointed times of the nations" are soon to begin. Here is scriptural info on that 3 1/2 year timeline again, for those who like timelines 😁 @MankeptforRacialsecretratters "Repent! The Kingdom of the heavens is drawing near." Jesus made clear the organization bearing God's Name will be attacked at the beginning of the great tribulation just ahead. Take refuge in Jehovah. "I will allow a humble and lowly people to remain in your midst, And they will take refuge in the name of Jehovah." (Zephaniah 3:12)

The video starts by saying "Mom's disfellowshipping still feels so raw..." but it sounds almost like "Mom's disfellowshipping still feels so wrong..." It is both wrong and raw. Not right. It feels raw because the practice of disfellowshipping is a sin against a Christian conscience trained to love. The GB teaches lies that sear the consciences of Christ-like people to the point those consciences don't work properly anymore. Jehovah has left His Name on the organization "Jehovah's Witnesses". He will discipline His people for the sake of His Name, and then He will gather in His sheep from everywhere else they have been flung and disregarded and shunned, whatever religious group they are in or anywhere else. They will be gathered to the "banner" where Jehovah's Name resides. Jesus' name means "Jehovah is Salvation" and Jesus said wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will gather. Jesus will clean house first, that the desirable things of the nations may be gathered in. When the great tribulation starts, the UN coalition attack on religion will begin at Bethel. 100% Guaranteed. (Here are the same two videos screen-recorded in case they get taken down from youtube, and also a link to them on another site...) RPReplay_Final1684934785.mov RPReplay_Final1684934785.mov https://avoidjw.org/news/jehovahs-witnesses-mysteriously-deleted-shunning-videos/