John 12.24to28

Oh, @boyle, you pretend to be such a grumpy bear, but I know you really have a heart.💝
 
Good night, my dear brother! I hope you rest well when you go to sleep.🌷😌

Oh, don't be sorry about that. I don't know why you got your hopes up. I already knew those things - maybe your expectations were too high? I told you am low and like a kid inside. You can't expect too much from somebody like that, @boyle, come on.😆

That's nice of you to say I'm kind.☺️
 
(Speaking of dimes, didn't Joan Jett sing "Put another dime in the jukebox baby!")
 
I like music. Do you like music, @boyle?
 
Here are three songs that use the word "world" in an easy to understand way, just like how Jesus used the word "world" in an easy to understand way. He said even a kid could understand the truth, so it's not surprising that popular songs would capture the appropriate utilization of the word 
 
Quotes from some of the lyrics...
 
"It's all over and I'm standing pretty
In this dust that was a city
If I could find a souvenir
Just to prove the world was here..."
 
The "world" that was destroyed in the song wasn't just politicians. It was a way of life. "World" has to do with a particular way of life.
 
 
 
It's a wild world right now.
 
"But just remember there's a lot of bad and beware
Oh baby baby it's a wild world
And it's hard to get by just upon a smile..."
 
 
 
The word "world" here is synonymous with badness. Satan's world is bad.
 
Here's another one...
 
"It's hard to beat the system
When we're standing at a distance
So we keep waiting on (waiting)
Waiting on the world to change..."
 
 
 
Here "world" is the wicked system of things. We too are waiting on the world to change, with God's kingdom to rule in peace and love.
 
Jesus' words "they are no part of the world" are not complicated. Even a kid can understand what they mean. The Pharisees and scribes like to make up rules and make things complicated. Jesus wasn't making up a new rule or a code of conduct in that phrase. He already told us what the rule was: "You must love one another, as I have loved you, love one another."💞

"Honest words are not painful! 
But what benefit can be found in your reproof? 
Are you scheming to reprove my words, 
A desperate man’s sayings, which the wind blows away?  
You would also cast lots over an orphan 
And sell your own friend!"
 
(Job 6:25-27)
 
There have been trialsome times when I have had "desperate sayings", but that is not how I feel at present.
 
Would you consider yourself a bit of a desperado, @boyle? 
 
"You've been out ridin' fences for so long now. 
Oh, you're a hard one, but I know that you got your reasons...
It may be rainin', but there's a rainbow above you."
 
You can let Jehovah love you.🥰
 
 

(Just a note, the screenshots are from today - the "shepherding call" was from a couple of years ago and the reference material on the w-o-l has changed, so the same article isn't there linked for the verse. But I showed the same article I was talking about that used to be there, as well as how another different article from the same year that is still linked to another verse near there, just to show the point - that the guys got mad about a comment from their own Watchtower material.)

When troubles come, the counsel in the movie is to obey the branch direction even if you don't understand.
They say that Jehovah will save you if you obey the branch no matter what, and there is fear instilled by certain scenes in the movie, to motivate by means of fear rather than love, that if you don't obey the branch direction, you will probably die.
The truth is that we need to obey Jehovah. Jehovah's direction is what will save us.
When people obey the branch without thinking and meditating on God's Word and comparing the direction of men with Jehovah's direction, well, it doesn't always work out well. Like what happened in Malawi.
 
It's easy to look back and say, "oh, it's not the Watchtower's fault the Malawi government was so mean."
But what if it's your kids next week when the branch sends direction that is in opposition to God's Word. Or when the branch sends direction that is based on a flawed understanding of scripture. Or a misapplication of scripture. Now what?
 
Jehovah has allowed kings in the past to make mistakes. He has allowed the people to follow those kings. Sometimes there were individuals who clung to Jehovah even when the leaders were not obeying Jehovah. 
 
Jehovah is looking for those who will worship Him in spirit and truth.

Come on, @boyle, are you trying to get the thread locked? You could stop it yourself or are you trying to get that personality puppet reported so you can bring a new one to life? I don't understand you sometimes...
 
I will lock it for now since you refuse to behave like a gentleman...maybe you'll go make another thread to be silly on.

"...he disguised his sanity in their presence and acted insane while among them. He was making marks on the doors of the gate and letting his saliva run down his beard.  Finally Aʹchish said to his servants: “You see that this man is crazy! Why bring him to me?  Do I have a shortage of crazy men that I need to have this one acting crazy before me? Should this man enter my house?”"
 
David wasn't really crazy, he was just creative. Some of those creative writing people have amazing imaginations too. I'm not really into fiction stories too much these days, personally, but David had a reason for his mask. I suppose some other people have a reason for their masks too. I think it's fun to be entertained by puppets, but I don't like when they get too wacky. (And I must say abusive speech from puppets is nothing compared to hearing it from elders or others in authority. At least from the puppets it's like a joke. I don't even notice it coming from online characters compared to what it is like in the congregation setting. The ones who are like that in the congregation aren't joking...) 
 
"Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more
vul·ner·a·ble
adjective: vulnerable
susceptible to physical or emotional attack or harm."we were in a vulnerable position"

Similar:  in danger    in peril    in jeopardy    at risk   endangered     unsafe    unprotected    ill-protected     unguarded    open to attack    attackable     assailable     exposed    wide open     undefended    unshielded    unfortified    unarmed   without arms    without weapons    defenseless     easily hurt/wounded/damaged    powerless    helpless    pregnable    impuissant    resistless      exposed to     open to     wide open to    liable to    prone to    prey to    susceptible to    subject to    not above    in danger of    at risk of    at the mercy of   an easy target for    easily affected by   in the firing line    susceptive of

Opposite:   well protected    invulnerable    resilient    immune to    above
(of a person) in need of special care, support, or protection because of age, disability, or risk of abuse or neglect."employees must be better trained in how to deal with vulnerable young people"
 
As regards "vulnerability"...Just because someone wears their heart on their sleeve doesn't make them vulnerable. To the contrary, some who wear their hearts that way have an unseen strength that cannot be comprehended by onlookers, because it is strength from Jehovah, and not everybody can see Jehovah. It is not difficult to uncover your heart when you are resting in Jehovah's hands. He is the Most Fortified Stronghold.
 
It appears to me the ones who are truly "vulnerable" hide what they are rather than coming into the light. That's not my business. Why do they call others "vulnerable" when they are the ones who are really scared?
 
I don't know why they're so scared. Or maybe I do. Sometimes when your view of the "world" is shaken up, it can be scary. There's no need to be scared. The ransom is big. Jehovah is merciful, and it's only His opinion that really matters anyway.
 
"“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.  For God did not send his Son into the world for him to judge the world, but for the world to be saved through him.  Whoever exercises faith in him is not to be judged. Whoever does not exercise faith has been judged already, because he has not exercised faith in the name of the only-begotten Son of God.  Now this is the basis for judgment: that the light has come into the world, but men have loved the darkness rather than the light, for their works were wicked.  For whoever practices vile things hates the light and does not come to the light, so that his works may not be reproved.  But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that his works may be made manifest as having been done in harmony with God.”💖
 
Being "no part of the world" means not being fake.
 
🙂🌷

Come on, @boyle, are you trying to get the thread locked? You could stop it yourself or are you trying to get that personality puppet reported so you can bring a new one to life? I don't understand you sometimes...
 
I will lock it for now since you refuse to behave like a gentleman...maybe you'll go make another thread to be silly on.

Oh, don't be sorry about that. I don't know why you got your hopes up. I already knew those things - maybe your expectations were too high? I told you am low and like a kid inside. You can't expect too much from somebody like that, @boyle, come on.😆

Amen!
 
"Truly I say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen..."
 
The Watchtower uses their generations theory but throws out the Greek definition of the word...
 
"3. the whole multitude of men living at the same time: Matthew 24:34; Mark 13:30; Luke 1:48 (πᾶσαι αἱ γενεαί); ; Philippians 2:15; used especially of the Jewish race living at one and the same period: Matthew 11:16; Matthew 12:39, 41f, 45; Matthew 16:4; Matthew 23:36; Mark 8:12, 38; Luke 11:29f, 32, 50; Luke 17:25; Acts 13:36; Hebrews 3:10; ἄνθρωποι τῆς γενεάς ταύτης, Luke 7:31; ἄνδρες τῆς γενεάς ταύτης, Luke 11:31; τήν δέ γενεάν αὐτοῦ τίς διηγήσεται, who can describe the wickedness of the present generation, Acts 8:33 (from Isaiah 53:8 the Sept.) (but cf. Meyer, at the passage)."
 
https://biblehub.com/greek/1074.htm
 
"A whole multitude" is the point. Of the whole multitude of God's name people who are alive during the beginning of the great tribulation, when religion is attacked, some will survive that attack. They will not all pass away in that attack. 
 
Jesus was talking to people who were among God's name people at the time. They were going to face great tribulation when the Romans attacked. He wanted them to know that faithful ones among them would survive, and the same today. God's name people will be attacked when the religious institutions are attacked by the nations at the beginning of the "appointed times of the nations" aka "time times and half a time" or "3 1/2 years". The current way the organization operates is about to be dissolved. 
 
"Since all these things are to be dissolved in this way, consider what sort of people you ought to be in holy acts of conduct and deeds of godly devotion..."
 
Love will remain. Truth will remain. The business parts will be gone. The Pharisee parts will be gone.
 
The "holy acts of conduct and deeds of godly devotion" are not necessarily quantifiable things you write down on a field service report, or a meeting attendance report. The holy acts of conduct are showing love in the way that Jesus commanded, without hypocrisy.
 

Oh, @boyle, you pretend to be such a grumpy bear, but I know you really have a heart.💝
 
Good night, my dear brother! I hope you rest well when you go to sleep.🌷😌

That's nice of you to say I'm kind.☺️
 
(Speaking of dimes, didn't Joan Jett sing "Put another dime in the jukebox baby!")
 
I like music. Do you like music, @boyle?
 
Here are three songs that use the word "world" in an easy to understand way, just like how Jesus used the word "world" in an easy to understand way. He said even a kid could understand the truth, so it's not surprising that popular songs would capture the appropriate utilization of the word 
 
Quotes from some of the lyrics...
 
"It's all over and I'm standing pretty
In this dust that was a city
If I could find a souvenir
Just to prove the world was here..."
 
The "world" that was destroyed in the song wasn't just politicians. It was a way of life. "World" has to do with a particular way of life.
 
 
 
It's a wild world right now.
 
"But just remember there's a lot of bad and beware
Oh baby baby it's a wild world
And it's hard to get by just upon a smile..."
 
 
 
The word "world" here is synonymous with badness. Satan's world is bad.
 
Here's another one...
 
"It's hard to beat the system
When we're standing at a distance
So we keep waiting on (waiting)
Waiting on the world to change..."
 
 
 
Here "world" is the wicked system of things. We too are waiting on the world to change, with God's kingdom to rule in peace and love.
 
Jesus' words "they are no part of the world" are not complicated. Even a kid can understand what they mean. The Pharisees and scribes like to make up rules and make things complicated. Jesus wasn't making up a new rule or a code of conduct in that phrase. He already told us what the rule was: "You must love one another, as I have loved you, love one another."💞

Oh, don't be sorry about that. I don't know why you got your hopes up. I already knew those things - maybe your expectations were too high? I told you am low and like a kid inside. You can't expect too much from somebody like that, @boyle, come on.😆

"Honest words are not painful! 
But what benefit can be found in your reproof? 
Are you scheming to reprove my words, 
A desperate man’s sayings, which the wind blows away?  
You would also cast lots over an orphan 
And sell your own friend!"
 
(Job 6:25-27)
 
There have been trialsome times when I have had "desperate sayings", but that is not how I feel at present.
 
Would you consider yourself a bit of a desperado, @boyle? 
 
"You've been out ridin' fences for so long now. 
Oh, you're a hard one, but I know that you got your reasons...
It may be rainin', but there's a rainbow above you."
 
You can let Jehovah love you.🥰
 
 

"I have given your word to them, but the world has hated them, because they are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world. I do not request that you take them out of the world, but that you watch over them because of the wicked one.  They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world."
 
(John 17:14-16)
 
 
 
Some information on "the world" from Strong's Concordance showing that "the world" does not mean specifically "politics" in the original language. The opposite of being "worldly" is not being "neutral". The opposite of being "worldly" is being "godly" or "positive towards the cause of the Christ" (the cause of the Christ is Love)...
 
 
https://biblehub.com/greek/2889.htm
 
2889. kosmos ►
Strong's Concordance
kosmos: order, the world
Original Word: κόσμος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: kosmos
Phonetic Spelling: (kos'-mos)
Definition: order, the world
Usage: the world, universe; worldly affairs; the inhabitants of the world; adornment.
HELPS Word-studies
2889 kósmos (literally, "something ordered") – properly, an "ordered system" (like the universe, creation); the world.
[The English term "cosmetic" is derived from 2889 /kósmos, i.e. the order ("ensemble") used of treating the face as a whole.
 
6. "the ungodly multitude; the whole mass of men alienated from God, and therefore hostile to the cause of Christ" (cf. Winer's Grammar, 26): John 7:7; John 14:27 (); ; 1 Corinthians 1:21; 1 Corinthians 6:2; 1 Corinthians 11:32; 2 Corinthians 7:10; James 1:27; 1 Peter 5:9; 2 Peter 1:4; 2 Peter 2:20; 1 John 3:1, 13; 1 John 4:5; 1 John 5:19; of the aggregate of ungodly and wicked men in O. T. times, Hebrews 11:38; in Noah's time, ibid. 7; with οὗτος added, Ephesians 2:2 (on which see αἰών, 3); εἶναι ἐκ τοῦ κόσμου and ἐκ τοῦ κόσμου τούτου (see εἰμί, V. 3rd.), John 8:23; John 15:19; John 17:14, 16; 1 John 4:5; λαλεῖν ἐκ τοῦ κόσμου, to speak in accordance with the world's character and mode of thinking, 1 John 4:5; ὁ ἄρχων τοῦ κόσμου τούτου, i. e. the devil, John 12:31; John 14:30; John 16:11; ὁ ἐν τῷ κόσμῳ he that is operative in the world (also of the devil), 1 John 4:4; τό πνεῦμα τοῦ κόσμου 1 Corinthians 2:12; ἡ σοφία τοῦ κόσμου τούτου, 1 Corinthians 1:20 (here G L T Tr WH omit τούτου); 1 Corinthians 3:19. (τά στοιχεῖα τοῦ κόσμου, Galatians 4:3; Colossians 2:8, 20 (see 5 above, and στοιχεῖον, 3 and 4).)

(Just a note, the screenshots are from today - the "shepherding call" was from a couple of years ago and the reference material on the w-o-l has changed, so the same article isn't there linked for the verse. But I showed the same article I was talking about that used to be there, as well as how another different article from the same year that is still linked to another verse near there, just to show the point - that the guys got mad about a comment from their own Watchtower material.)

From  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200277174
Truths?  Or Insanity?
 
 
 
 

To go along with this, voting wasn't even a concept for the regular jews back in Jesus's time. 
Since  boyle is terribly naive, when a person votes they are not really voting for a person, but what that person believes is right or represents. For example I myself and a more middle of the road conservative, I believe abortion is murder and is wrong so I am going to vote for a candidate who believes the same way and will use their influence to end abortions. Or believe in diplomacy over war, being a good steward of the taxes we pay, etc. 
I'm glad the jw version of the paradise isn't going to happen, I couldn't imagine the dictatorship of the governing body would go over very well with Jesus.

I hope you have a nice day, @boyle. Bye for now. 😌

Being "no part of the world" means not acting like Satan, who is hateful and likes to lord it over others in a mean way.
 
Jehovah isn't like them. I am one of Jehovah's witnesses. Jehovah is my Shepherd. A shepherd of Jehovah doesn't act like those guys act.
 
"Jehovah is my Shepherd. I will lack nothing.
In grassy pastures he makes me lie down;
He leads me to well-watered resting-places.  
He refreshes me.
He leads me in the paths of righteousness for the sake of his name.
Though I walk in the valley of deep shadow, I fear no harm,
For you are with me;
Your rod and your staff reassure me.  
You prepare a table for me before my enemies.
You refresh my head with oil;
My cup is well-filled.  
Surely goodness and loyal love will pursue me all the days of my life,
And I will dwell in the house of Jehovah for all my days."
 
(Psalm 23)
 
 

(During the time period of the above shepherding call, Earl and Mary Jo and my husband repeatedly called DHHS and bore false witness against me so they could try to get custody of my children. It was a terrifying time, because the elders were backing the people hurting my family. Ruthanne, mentioned in the transcript, was a sister in M- congregation, and she and two other members of M- helped me since the elders wouldn't. The A- elders let Earl remain HLC coordinator and COBE of the A- congregation until he stepped down later of his own accord. Even though my children were baptized members of the congregation and witnesses to many of the events, the elders wouldn't accept their testimony.)