John 12.24to28

Not so thin-skinned, if you please. I'd rather go back to peace. You can suffer a rebuke now and then without thinking the rebuker an enemy. Nor is it necessary to compare to see who else is rebuked. I believe there are scriptures on both of these points.

Well, 18 pages of disagreeableness for this thread alone. I did this watching a TV series so at least THAT story was not a complete waste of time.
I like a good religious debate, and used to debate 3 to 5 worldly people at the same time, on IRC/DALNET.
In 15 years there I never had anyone lie to me, or about me … and conversations were based on Scripture, reason and logic, hard facts and common sense.
Here it’s like talking to malignant zombies, or the divorced from reality, with rare exceptions.
Exit, stage right ……

"when slandered, we answer mildly; we have become as the refuse of the world, the offscouring of all things, until now." 
 
(1 Corinthians 4:13)

I'll have to take your word for it, @JW Insider. You can't really feel "all the love" from the Closed JW Club through the Closed Door...
 
"You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain.  People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house.  Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens."
 
(Matthew 5:14-16)
 
"to the hungry, even what is bitter tastes sweet"
 
(Proverbs 27:7)

You know I'm talking about the elders in my congregation, @boyle, come on now...☺️

Oh, @Pudgy, I know nothing I do is going to "help". Nothing is going to change until it is Jehovah's appointed time. I know that.
 
It's just in the meantime, a matter of principle. I am not trying to be disruptive, that is not my motive, but it is a result of their response to my keeping integrity. I can't help that.
 
I obeyed the rules of the congregation as published, as well as the rules of the Bible. Those guys broke their own rules, and then punished me for it. Fine. Whatever. But now I am not going to stop loving people just because they want to kick me out. Their lack of integrity doesn't change my integrity.
 
I am not going to stop talking to people just because some guys want to say "shun her!" It doesn't work that way. They can make all the decrees they want, but that doesn't change that Jehovah decrees I do everything I can to encourage my family. There are some in the congregation who know I didn't do anything for which to be shunned. They know it. And they got strength when they saw me out there with that sign. The little ones. They saw, and they got strength. I won't leave them.
 
When there are brothers and sisters in the prisons, who goes to clap for them? When there are sick ones in the hospitals or nursing homes, who goes to visit them? We should. We can't always, but it's good if we do. My family is in prison in the organization to wicked men who make God-dishonoring decrees. I'm not leaving them. I can't be with them at every meeting - I won't bring my kids there anymore because of current circumstances - but I can go to the assembly and convention and CO visit once in awhile and show that I am not a hater and I am not guilty of the charges. It's the principle of it. If I didn't go, then it'd be like I gave up. I can't do that.
 
Even when I feel like giving up, Jehovah gives me the strength again. Praise Jehovah. I am confident that soon He will get rid of the disfellowshipping doctrine and the other God-dishonoring teachings in the organization. I am 100% confident. I will be outside the "walls" when they fall, and I will be ready to comfort all those brothers. They are going to need to be comforted. They're not used to thinking and reasoning on the Bible for themselves.

Yeah, the text this morning was even more hilarious...my daughter read it with the accent the wolves use on the Kevin McFree videos😆

Oh, @Pudgy, I know nothing I do is going to "help". Nothing is going to change until it is Jehovah's appointed time. I know that.
 
It's just in the meantime, a matter of principle. I am not trying to be disruptive, that is not my motive, but it is a result of their response to my keeping integrity. I can't help that.
 
I obeyed the rules of the congregation as published, as well as the rules of the Bible. Those guys broke their own rules, and then punished me for it. Fine. Whatever. But now I am not going to stop loving people just because they want to kick me out. Their lack of integrity doesn't change my integrity.
 
I am not going to stop talking to people just because some guys want to say "shun her!" It doesn't work that way. They can make all the decrees they want, but that doesn't change that Jehovah decrees I do everything I can to encourage my family. There are some in the congregation who know I didn't do anything for which to be shunned. They know it. And they got strength when they saw me out there with that sign. The little ones. They saw, and they got strength. I won't leave them.
 
When there are brothers and sisters in the prisons, who goes to clap for them? When there are sick ones in the hospitals or nursing homes, who goes to visit them? We should. We can't always, but it's good if we do. My family is in prison in the organization to wicked men who make God-dishonoring decrees. I'm not leaving them. I can't be with them at every meeting - I won't bring my kids there anymore because of current circumstances - but I can go to the assembly and convention and CO visit once in awhile and show that I am not a hater and I am not guilty of the charges. It's the principle of it. If I didn't go, then it'd be like I gave up. I can't do that.
 
Even when I feel like giving up, Jehovah gives me the strength again. Praise Jehovah. I am confident that soon He will get rid of the disfellowshipping doctrine and the other God-dishonoring teachings in the organization. I am 100% confident. I will be outside the "walls" when they fall, and I will be ready to comfort all those brothers. They are going to need to be comforted. They're not used to thinking and reasoning on the Bible for themselves.

What are you, like a prophet or something now? Lol...😆 
I don't believe in false prophets.

What are you, like a prophet or something now? Lol...😆 
I don't believe in false prophets.

You are clearly bat crap delusional.
1.)  Since you have been here you have NO IDEA if I have heeded God’s words, or not, as evidenced by your many slanders against me, based on false assumptions.
2.)  I have not defended apostates, I have defended true statements, from whatever source. I did chastise  the creating of dissension in the Congregations, a serious error.
3.)  I do not insult anybody or anything. I excoriate with satire, humor and reason and logic thing that are lies, stupidity, arrogance, and agenda driven thinking. I have always invited rebuttal and civil disagreements. I tell the truth as I see and have experienced it.  Truth is often mistaken for insult, especially if you are the one being lampooned.
4.). I have NEVER INSULTED your family. I know nothing about your family. I have challenged you several times to show me where I insulted your family, and you NEVER COULD.
5.)  I would like to see your hard evidence that I am a deranged, sick individual. Your opinion is only that unless proven. Nothing more.
6.). Why people in the Closed Club put up with my nonsense? I don’t know, but I suspect they appreciate hard facts that can be proven every time, and most understand my outrageous sense of humor.
7.)  And there is a very real difference between being simply wrong, as we each take turns being, and being a scammer. 
Of course a person can be wrong and teach what is wrong because they themselves believe the error … but a scammer is one who KNOWS he is defending a lie, because he KNOWS what he is teaching is not true.
Thr reason the Society does not follow Matthew 18 …. Jesus SPECIFIC instructions on how to maintain peace in the Congregation, is because they would lose their hold on the never ending flow of money, which is clearly evident.
Well … I hope to have addressed all your accusations and delusions. If not … a civil dialog based on verifiable hard facts instead of the norm would be welcomed.

Well, boyle, by attacking me you inadvertently let slip through your cognitive agenda driven dissonance that YOU KNOW that Jehovah’s Witnesses do NOT follow Scripture.
You even downvoted Jesus’ SPECIFIC instructions of how to do it right.
DOUBLE YIKES!
 

 
Want me to post a screenshot of your own words?

I see previously, boyle, that you downvoted the procedure Jesus specified for disciplining brothers and sisters in the Congregation.
Without any rebuttal.
Whazzamatter?
Cat got your tongue?

Try to visualize boyle without imagining he is constantly being offended .….. he might just *POP* out of existence!

Matthew 18:17 says to go to the "congregation".
 
Matthew 16:18 and Matthew 16:21 shows that the Greek words for "congregation" and "elders" are different.
 
If Jesus wanted a small committee, he wouldn't have used the word "congregation".
 
That elder committee secret judicial hearing thing is apostasy.
 

@boyle not all people who get disfellowshipped are those things. To just lump them all together isn't righteous. Jesus said to be cautious as serpents and innocent as doves, so of course we have to be careful and protect ourselves and our families. But when a committee of men in the congregation has a secret meeting and then publicly condemns a person as worthy of death without providing that evidence to others, in what way is that carrying out what is righteous? In ancient times, justice was carried out in the city gate where everyone would know the details. The secret elder meetings are not Jehovah's way, and they lead to oppression, misappropriation of justice, reproach on Jehovah's name and suffering for the flock of God.

@boyle not all people who get disfellowshipped are those things. To just lump them all together isn't righteous. Jesus said to be cautious as serpents and innocent as doves, so of course we have to be careful and protect ourselves and our families. But when a committee of men in the congregation has a secret meeting and then publicly condemns a person as worthy of death without providing that evidence to others, in what way is that carrying out what is righteous? In ancient times, justice was carried out in the city gate where everyone would know the details. The secret elder meetings are not Jehovah's way, and they lead to oppression, misappropriation of justice, reproach on Jehovah's name and suffering for the flock of God.

Get Fuzzy, Non Sequiter, Dilbert...I guess you could ask him?

Get Fuzzy, Non Sequiter, Dilbert...I guess you could ask him?

You know, that I made the non-sequiter throwaway joke about boyle hating Dilbert, but thinking about it a little more, I would guess that he REALLY REALLY  hates Dilbert!

Those are “beauty marks” like Miss Kitty had on “Gunsmoke”.
Just kidding …. they are cartoon whiskers.

I betcha boyle even hates Dilbert.

I know I make mistakes all the time, and I welcome your correction. I was teasing you, @boyle, as you well know. 😝

"when slandered, we answer mildly; we have become as the refuse of the world, the offscouring of all things, until now." 
 
(1 Corinthians 4:13)

I'll have to take your word for it, @JW Insider. You can't really feel "all the love" from the Closed JW Club through the Closed Door...
 
"You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain.  People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house.  Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens."
 
(Matthew 5:14-16)
 
"to the hungry, even what is bitter tastes sweet"
 
(Proverbs 27:7)