John 12.24to28

I delved into the insights of this article. At least, I read it and found it very easy to understand. But didn't see why you recommended it. Did you think it was supportive of the so-called "overlapping generation" theory, or non-supportive. And in either case, was there something specific in that article you wanted to highlight?  If so, where?
Here's the 2005 edition, for reference pps:244-246:
 

I know I make mistakes all the time, and I welcome your correction. I was teasing you, @boyle, as you well know. 😝

I'll have to take your word for it, @JW Insider. You can't really feel "all the love" from the Closed JW Club through the Closed Door...
 
"You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain.  People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house.  Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens."
 
(Matthew 5:14-16)
 
"to the hungry, even what is bitter tastes sweet"
 
(Proverbs 27:7)

Did you mean "compliment" or "complement"? I think you spelled it wrong.

If anyone could prove that the heavenly resurrection already occurred, then I would more likely believe all that other garbage too. Well, okay, maybe not even then, but...
 
"Window test"...the heavenly resurrection hasn't happened yet. Jesus wasn't enthroned in 1914. The GB is not inspired and they don't represent Jehovah. And the disfellowshipping doctrine is not from God.

😆

Phd = Piled Higher and Deeper.

These scriptures here look like the precursors of the apostate "overlapping generation" doctrine...
 
"So when they had assembled, they asked him: “Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?”  He said to them: “It does not belong to you to know the times or seasons that the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction."
 
(Acts 1:6,7)
 
"While they were listening to these things, he told another illustration, because he was near Jerusalem and they thought that the Kingdom of God was going to appear instantly."
 
(Luke 19:11)
 
"But we were hoping that this man was the one who was going to deliver Israel. Yes, and besides all these things, this is the third day since these things occurred."
 
(Luke 24:21)
 
"or by a spoken message or by a letter appearing to be from us, to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here"
 
(2 Thessalonians 2:2)
 
"empty speeches that violate what is holy, for they will lead to more and more ungodliness, and their word will spread like gangrene. Hy·me·naeʹus and Phi·leʹtus are among them.  These men have deviated from the truth, saying that the resurrection has already occurred, and they are subverting the faith of some."
 
(2 Timothy 2:16-18)
 
The FDS says the resurrection in heaven supposedly occurred already, after Jesus was supposedly enthroned invisibly in 1914, and that anointed ones who have died since that time supposedly all go right up to a heavenly resurrection. Such is the apostate theology that goes along with the overlapping generations doctrine.

And now for some stream of consciousness free association ….
You know, Rod Serling the creator of the Twilight Zone used to write most of his own episodes, one a week, but also had guest writers.  The opening narrator would say “what’s that sign post up ahead?
It was the Twilight Zone … sorta like following this thread, or electroshock therapy…..
Which brings us to the Howdy Doody Show on TV, and the show’s resident nasty person (actually a marionette …), Phineas T. Bluster …. Who now with no one to pull his strings, is packed in a dust encased theatrical trunk in a forgotten studio warehouse somewhere ….….. or is he?
 

Now you're talking, @boyle, now you're making sense! See, I knew you'd come around eventually! Good job!😃
 
"Jehovah will defeat them for you...Be courageous and strong. Do not be afraid or struck with terror before them, for Jehovah your God is the one marching with you. He will neither desert you nor abandon you.”
 
(Deuteronomy 31:5,6)
 
Jehovah will be with all the little ones. Sometimes we go through really hard things, but we go through them together. Jehovah does not abandon the little ones, even though sometimes we don't realize He's there. The sun always rises. When it is the light of day, the little ones will know that Jehovah never abandoned them, not really. He will exalt them, and then they will know He is Jehovah, Their God.💞

Amen!🥰

I see Watchtower paid the sanctions too. 
 
 


 

I just added more to that Status Update in the reply section that shows the local police department response to the trespassing ban as well as photos from today and an explanation that the some of the elders will still wave and smile at me, because they know I am not some wicked dangerous person. They are afraid of men, and that's why they don't stand up and protect the flock, because they'd have to take on the GB. It's okay, Jesus will take down the GB in time.
 
The disfellowshipping doctrine has hurt so many people. I am so glad for that victory in Norway. Praise Jehovah.

Here's the reason the Watchtower is going to lose all these cases...
 
"...the religious practice [of disfellowshipping]...which is carried out in accordance with the texts of the Bible..."
 
That is a lie. Their statement of the GB/Watchtower, that "disfellowshipping" is carried out according to Jehovah's Word is a Lie. 
 
Jesus hates that disfellowshipping doctrine. Jehovah hates the disfellowshipping doctrine.
 
Jehovah won't back them as long as they keep lying. They're running right into a wall. Jehovah is the God of Justice. These guys are going to keep losing because they're fighting against Jehovah.
 
They're blaspheming Jehovah with their false doctrines. It's not going to go well for them.
 
"Whom have you taunted and blasphemed?
Against whom have you raised your voice
And lifted your arrogant eyes?  
It is against the Holy One of Israel."
 
(Isaiah 37:23)

I see Watchtower paid the sanctions too. 
 
 


 

I see Watchtower paid the sanctions too. 
 
 


 

I was surprised when I read the 34 page Norwegian Court Ruling, which I downloaded, that the WTB&TS was ALREADY deregistered (… similar to being disfellowshipped …) in France and Germany.
Wow! … It’s really embarrassing  when you are convicted of violations of basic inalienable human rights and cruelty … by GERMANY ….. and two counties that Nazi Germany invaded and occupied and tried to make them slaves.
20230426LFC_E_No.pdf
Here is a PDF FILE of the Court Order, in English.

The Top WTJWorg Lawyer Philip Brumley. "The Corporation" (donation money) paid for his law studies, and he received a heavy fine, not because he does not know the law, but because of his dishonesty, he misleads the Court, makes incomplete and incorrect statements with the aim of defending injustice. What a great Lawyer, what a great Elder.
227-0-Notification-of-Sanctions-Order.pdf

Yes, I remember seeing all those guys represented in the video...
 
 
(That video is over three hours long, but I believe there were a few highlights of the WT lawyer in this video too...)
 

This article looks to have been initially posted in December 28 2022 but reposted today (dated SUNDAY 14 MAY 2023)
 
https://jyllands-posten.dk/debat/kommentar/ECE14759054/boern-skal-ikke-straffes-som-voksne-men-det-bliver-de-inden-for-jehovas-vidner/
 
(Article translated using Google Translate...)
 
 
"Children should not be punished like adults - but they will be within Jehovah's Witnesses
 
Norway's State Administration has decided a case in which it determines that children's rights are violated when Jehovah's Witnesses practice their ostracism methods, where children are exposed to negative social control and are held to account within the sixteen's own closed legal system - where they are judged as adults. But are Norwegian children different from Danes - or all other children in the world?
 
If you are a "recognised religious community" (Act no. 1533 of 19 December 2017 on religious communities outside the national church) in Denmark, you have a number of financial advantages regarding (property) tax and VAT. In addition, members can donate an amount that they can deduct from tax.
 
In Norway, brave members contacted the public authorities and described that they felt trapped and did not dare to leave the sect for fear of the personal consequences it would have. Yesterday, Norway's State Administration announced to the Jehovah's Witnesses organization that the religious freedom of the members is violated when the organization expels its members. The decision does not mean that Jehovah's Witnesses will disappear from Norway. They can still practice their religion, they just no longer get millions of tax crowns every year, and then they lose the right to perform weddings.
 
Already in October, Jehovah's Witnesses in Norway were warned that they were about to have their state support stopped. On the same occasion, the organization was asked whether it wanted to change its exclusionary practices so that it could continue to receive government funding. To that, the Jehovah's Witnesses organization replied no. At the same time, the organization hired a high-profile lawyer.
 
Jehovah's Witnesses practice what in my time within the sect was called "excommunication" and which has later been changed to "exclusion," probably to give an illusion to the public that it is not such a bad punishment.
 
But an exclusion is exactly the same as an ostracism. In practice, this means that you are open to your family and former friends. I have experienced it myself. I know how it works. If you walk in the street and pass someone from the sect you have known since you were a child, he must pass you by without deigning to look at you. If you try to call home to say hello to your parents, they must hang up immediately. They must have absolutely no contact with you. If the outcast shows up outside the parents' door, they must not initiate a conversation and must close the door - no matter how old the outcast is. Imagine how many outcasts either kill themselves or creep back into the cult - not to mention those who dare not leave the cult for fear of the treatment they have seen others receive.
 
And that is precisely why Norway has now had enough. It is inhumane to treat especially children and young people in that way. I myself was told that I myself had made the choice to be baptized and therefore also knew the consequences when I chose to leave the sect. I was baptized two weeks after my 14th birthday, had not yet had my period, had never been in love or kissed a boy – in short, I had accepted abstinence requirements I had no understanding of.
 
The sect strongly encourages you to be baptized as early as possible - and then you sit in the scissors. You are held accountable for your actions on equal terms with adults. I have heard of children as young as 8 who have been baptized - and judged as adults when they start asking questions or breaking the sect's rules.
 
There has been a citizens' proposal to deprive Jehovah's Witnesses in Denmark of their recognition as a religious community. Unfortunately, too few signed for the Danish Parliament to consider the proposal.
 
And that's a shame. On the one hand, Jehovah's Witnesses are immensely happy about the economic benefits that the Danish state gives them, on the other hand, such a state-supported economy is a blue stamp of the inhumane, sectarian doomsday cult's practice, which with its Gestapo methods forces the members to stab each other - with severe personal consequences for follow when he or she is expelled.
 
And how do Jehovah's Witnesses react to the decision in Norway? Ironically, they say that they are a persecuted minority, that their freedom of religion is challenged, that they are victims of a crusade that tries to make the lives of the witnesses as difficult as possible and pressure them to change the interpretation and practice of the Bible's message, which they of course "no way" intend to do. It is tragicomic to see how their manipulative argument magic is turned upside down.
 
My hope is that more European countries will look to Norway as a pioneering country - not only when it comes to financial support for Jehovah's Witnesses, but for all religious communities, cults and sect organizations that take children and young people hostage and use social control contrary to the Convention on the Rights of the Child and common sense. The state must play a greater role – especially in European, democratic countries, where we can only expect more insane religions and sects on our doorstep in the future."

I don't see that there is anything wrong with any of those things.
 
Jesus was older than anybody else, so you could say that when he walked the earth he was elderly though not aging.
 
Jesus felt lonely sometimes. "About the ninth hour, Jesus called out with a loud voice, saying: “Eʹli, Eʹli, laʹma sa·bach·thaʹni?” that is, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”"
 
There is a lot to be angry about in the world. "Be agitated, but do not sin. Have your say in your heart, upon your bed, and keep silent." The Bible doesn't say that we'll never feel angry - it says to "be slow to anger."  Jesus was angry with those robbers in the temple who were taking advantage of God's sheep in order to make a buck.
 
We're all needy. Anyone who says they're not needy isn't being truthful. Jehovah designed us to need each other. That's why we're a family.
 
I'm glad you're here. I hope you live forever.💖

This article looks to have been initially posted in December 28 2022 but reposted today (dated SUNDAY 14 MAY 2023)
 
https://jyllands-posten.dk/debat/kommentar/ECE14759054/boern-skal-ikke-straffes-som-voksne-men-det-bliver-de-inden-for-jehovas-vidner/
 
(Article translated using Google Translate...)
 
 
"Children should not be punished like adults - but they will be within Jehovah's Witnesses
 
Norway's State Administration has decided a case in which it determines that children's rights are violated when Jehovah's Witnesses practice their ostracism methods, where children are exposed to negative social control and are held to account within the sixteen's own closed legal system - where they are judged as adults. But are Norwegian children different from Danes - or all other children in the world?
 
If you are a "recognised religious community" (Act no. 1533 of 19 December 2017 on religious communities outside the national church) in Denmark, you have a number of financial advantages regarding (property) tax and VAT. In addition, members can donate an amount that they can deduct from tax.
 
In Norway, brave members contacted the public authorities and described that they felt trapped and did not dare to leave the sect for fear of the personal consequences it would have. Yesterday, Norway's State Administration announced to the Jehovah's Witnesses organization that the religious freedom of the members is violated when the organization expels its members. The decision does not mean that Jehovah's Witnesses will disappear from Norway. They can still practice their religion, they just no longer get millions of tax crowns every year, and then they lose the right to perform weddings.
 
Already in October, Jehovah's Witnesses in Norway were warned that they were about to have their state support stopped. On the same occasion, the organization was asked whether it wanted to change its exclusionary practices so that it could continue to receive government funding. To that, the Jehovah's Witnesses organization replied no. At the same time, the organization hired a high-profile lawyer.
 
Jehovah's Witnesses practice what in my time within the sect was called "excommunication" and which has later been changed to "exclusion," probably to give an illusion to the public that it is not such a bad punishment.
 
But an exclusion is exactly the same as an ostracism. In practice, this means that you are open to your family and former friends. I have experienced it myself. I know how it works. If you walk in the street and pass someone from the sect you have known since you were a child, he must pass you by without deigning to look at you. If you try to call home to say hello to your parents, they must hang up immediately. They must have absolutely no contact with you. If the outcast shows up outside the parents' door, they must not initiate a conversation and must close the door - no matter how old the outcast is. Imagine how many outcasts either kill themselves or creep back into the cult - not to mention those who dare not leave the cult for fear of the treatment they have seen others receive.
 
And that is precisely why Norway has now had enough. It is inhumane to treat especially children and young people in that way. I myself was told that I myself had made the choice to be baptized and therefore also knew the consequences when I chose to leave the sect. I was baptized two weeks after my 14th birthday, had not yet had my period, had never been in love or kissed a boy – in short, I had accepted abstinence requirements I had no understanding of.
 
The sect strongly encourages you to be baptized as early as possible - and then you sit in the scissors. You are held accountable for your actions on equal terms with adults. I have heard of children as young as 8 who have been baptized - and judged as adults when they start asking questions or breaking the sect's rules.
 
There has been a citizens' proposal to deprive Jehovah's Witnesses in Denmark of their recognition as a religious community. Unfortunately, too few signed for the Danish Parliament to consider the proposal.
 
And that's a shame. On the one hand, Jehovah's Witnesses are immensely happy about the economic benefits that the Danish state gives them, on the other hand, such a state-supported economy is a blue stamp of the inhumane, sectarian doomsday cult's practice, which with its Gestapo methods forces the members to stab each other - with severe personal consequences for follow when he or she is expelled.
 
And how do Jehovah's Witnesses react to the decision in Norway? Ironically, they say that they are a persecuted minority, that their freedom of religion is challenged, that they are victims of a crusade that tries to make the lives of the witnesses as difficult as possible and pressure them to change the interpretation and practice of the Bible's message, which they of course "no way" intend to do. It is tragicomic to see how their manipulative argument magic is turned upside down.
 
My hope is that more European countries will look to Norway as a pioneering country - not only when it comes to financial support for Jehovah's Witnesses, but for all religious communities, cults and sect organizations that take children and young people hostage and use social control contrary to the Convention on the Rights of the Child and common sense. The state must play a greater role – especially in European, democratic countries, where we can only expect more insane religions and sects on our doorstep in the future."

Well, if that's the way you feel about it, pilgrim...
 
I probably saw it as a kid - it seems John Wayne movies were on all the time in my house. 
 
 

WOW!
Those Norwegians are really SERIOUS about basic human decency and basic human rights!
WHO KNEW?
I guess being invaded and occupied by the Nazis during WWII made them sensitive about such things.

I asked the ChatGBT AI to review this entire thread of boyle vs Audrey, because, quite frankly, I am amazed at how well you get along together, even with dramatic differences of opinion.
Prophesy is at no time initiated by man, so I figured who better to prophesy about the JW protestors in Washington, DC than an AI.
HAL9000 was not available for comment, but did offer to sing me a song…..