Fausto Hoover

The problem is, E.T., that there are people that will consider straight facts, such as the “Malawi Incidents”, accurately reported but which are an embarrassing strategic SNAFU of short sightedness, as a “distortion of the facts”.
There are others, such as myself, that believe that Jehovah’s Witnesses are the best bet Civilization and individuals can find, but recognize fully that the Leadership on Earth are as capable of colossal screw-ups and errors of judgement as individual people everywhere are capable of.  
“Jehovah of Armies” in the past knew that many strong, good and capable men would die in battle fighting for his interests, when he could have with a casual thought destroyed his enemies with no casualties on his side.
If you were in the United States Marines, and believed in the men an the mission, over time you would realize that many many men die and are forever wounded because of your Officer’s mistakes, bad judgement, personality quirks, greed and political pressure.
You may be justly or unjustly persecuted by these same Officers, perhaps even chastised onto death.…. that’s what the job entails.
Same thing with Jehovah’s People today.
That does NOT mean    you should pretend things that really happened, and bad policies never existed. Or do not exist now.
Reality is what it is.
Get used to it. 
The Universe is not impressed by many words, skillfully crafted.
Unfortunately …. the inexperienced are.
…… Pesky Humans!
 
 

You astonish easily.
You should get out of the basement more.

Your absence of knowledge is very noticeable.

A statement that the stupid find profound.
It is completely meaningless liberal snowflake drivel.
Ignorance is bliss … and your silly self evident statement is orgasmic.

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Good points, Matthew9969, but   although we have some coincident awarenesses, you are not my friend.
I saw a cartoon where there was a chapel at a funeral home, and the casket was up front. On the pews were three scattered mourners. At the back the Funeral Director whispered to his assistant “I don’t understand it … on Facebook he had over 400 “friends”.

If you haven't gained understanding of Matthew 24:3, you are not alone. Jesus Christ response to the question of 'when' was, "Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father." (Matthew24:36) This Greek Word parousia literally means 'being alongside' and alludes to Christ's Presence covering a period of time as to “the Days of Noah Before the Flood would occur.” Jesus compared this specific time period to “the Presence of the Son of man” at (Matthew 24:37).
The Question the four disciples put to Jesus was in two parts. One, to His Presence which he did not know personally. And second, to the conclusion of the system of things of which he answered, "Look out that nobody misleads you.. You are going to hear of wars and reports of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for these things must take place, but the end is not yet. For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress." (Matthew 24:4-8)
WTS quote - (Bible Examiner) - In the year 1876 the twenty-four-year-old Russell made a contribution on the subject to this magazine. It was published in Volume XXI, Number 1, which was the issue of October, 1876. On pages 27, 28 of that issue Russell’s article was published under the title “Gentile Times: When Do They End?” In that article (page 27) Russell said: “The seven times will end in A.D. 1914.”- End of WTS Quote.
Brother Russell wrote: "'The Earth Abideth Forever' Christ will not return to Earth as a Man - Present Year Believed to Mark Great Change of Dispensation, but World May not discern Immediate Difference." The Bible Students Monthly, January, 1914.
"Our Lord, in describing His Second Presence, clearly indicated that it would be unnoticed by the world until the cataclysm of trouble should come. Thus He likened the earlier days of His presence to that period before the Flood, when the world, unconscious of the impending catastrophe, continued to build, eat and drink as usual, and knew not. So, says the Master, it will be in the end of this Age. Eating, drinking, building, planting and marrying will proceed as usual; and the world will not know that they are in the PRESENCE of the Son of Man." He continues, "The Bible nowhere tells that Jesus took the human nature to keep it forever, and to return with it to Heaven, where it would be completely out of order and out of place. The Bible teaches, on the contrary, that "flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God" (1 Cor 15:50); and that Jesus was made flesh merely 'that He, by the grace of God, should taste death for every man' (Heb 2:9) and that after doing this work He would "ascend up where He was before." (John 6:62) The great Day of Trouble, noted throughout the Scriptures as the Time of Trouble such as never was since there was a nation, will come upon them suddenly." (Matthew 24:21) "Then, later on, will come the Epiphania; that is to say, the revelation, or manifestation, of the present One. This will not be a manifestation in the flesh, but in a great Time of Trouble, symbolically represented as fire, as when we read, "He shall be revealed in flaming fire, taking vengeance." -- 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10. International Bible Students Association: "Nevertheless, when viewed from God’s standpoint, we are still “shortly after” 1914. Although Russell himself did not think the time of trouble would be this long, he did allow that it could be. It is possible that the time allotted for this period is 120 years (1914+120=2034), but that these days will be “cut short” some time before they are allowed to reach their end. We do not put this forth as a “prophecy”, nor would we feel anything was wrong if 2034 came and went and nothing had happened as far the full binding of Satan and the destruction of his empire is concerned. All things are in God’s hands."
We are now fast approaching the second part of the Question Of Matthew 24:3 "... and of the conclusion of the system of things?"
The great day of Jehovah is near! It is near and it is approaching very quickly! The sound of the day of Jehovah is bitter. There a warrior cries out. (Zephaniah 1:14) In that day Jehovah will turn his attention to the army of the heights above And to the kings of the earth upon the earth. (Isaiah 24:21) And they must be ready for the third day, because on the third day Jehovah will come down upon Mount Sinai before the eyes of all the people. (Exodus 19:11) Therefore, watch yourselves closely—since you did not see any form on the day Jehovah spoke to you in Horeb out of the middle of the fire— (Deuteronomy 4:15) The pangs of distress upon the earth that began in 1914 do have an ending to them as in the Days of Noah. When the Last Days of Distress end, then the earthly kings will declare “Peace and security!” But which side will YOU be on in that day?
As far back as 1880 the Watchtower magazine declared that 1914 would mark the end of the “Gentile times.” Better times are head of us when the age of violence is brought to its' end.
Whenever it is that they are saying, “Peace and security!” then sudden destruction is to be instantly on them, just like birth pains on a pregnant woman, and they will by no means escape. (1 Thessalonians 5:3) As 2034 comes and goes Exercise Patience and Do Not Look Back! Remember Lot's Wife!

I love my friend Pudgy, but the search for Tony and it's results, etc...IMO the guy suffers from ptsd and being forced to be a narcissist and I believe he was sharing his personal outlook....so he was given the corporate golden parachute. My mother is a 65 year dedicated jw, and even her jw friends are telling her it's time to just accept things the way they are.
I say lets let Tony just live out the rest of his senior life. And quit being distracted from the cult/religion's real  problems...which if you think about it the watchtower like the government will find ways to deflect from the real shit thats going on. Including using  trolls and spammers on this topic thread.

When simple, straightfoward explanations are treated like secret military intelligence … “We would tell you, but we would have to kill you, hahahaha” is met with nervous laughter and whirlwinds of rumors. 
When cover stories have cover stories, and “New Light” causes history to be “revised”, who can you trust?
 

When simple, straightfoward explanations are treated like secret military intelligence … “We would tell you, but we would have to kill you, hahahaha” is met with nervous laughter and whirlwinds of rumors. 
When cover stories have cover stories, and “New Light” causes history to be “revised”, who can you trust?
 

Cartoon dogs go by a different set of rules.…. much like the residents of Flatland.
But you are right … nothing sucks like a Hoover. 

JW theologians...please provide their names and credentials.

Since your answer did not address what Jesus said, and what the Apostles understood, all you did was prove that you have not a clue, and the “overlapping generations” doctrine is an agenda driven fantasy.
 

“…. Meaning, apostates are correct while the faithful are mistaken.”?
“You extrapolate from your agenda driven fantasies things not written. 
That’s why “overlapping generations”makes sense to you.

Want to prove me wrong Dick Tracy?
From your OWN WORDS, explain how what the Apostles were told … and what they understood … was “overlapping generations”.
If you can’t do that …. what you believe is proved to be crap, by your inability to even explain it yourself.

Heretics, schismatics, apostates and other types can be found everywhere.
Of course, this does not mean that they are wrong and the "faithful" members are right.

… and  “… widely recognized”  by who, exactly? 
Your phantom plethora of doppelgänger shills?

So Sherlock Holmes, why do you think that someone here might have have a reason for anger and hostility?

Because if you are in a forum discussing “all things about open water SCUBA diving”, the fact that one of the contributors is a farmer, and goes into a dissertation about hog management may safely be considered  extraneous fluff.
Unless the hogs SCUBA dive ….. and perhaps not even then.

What is holding you back from publishing the desired information? Is someone forbidding you? No commentators has anything against you posting news about Catholics, Mormons, Adventists, etc.

when someone makes a point, instead of just “downvoting” it, which is silly … and when you downvote straight facts is both sad and ludicrous … why not reply with comprehensive counterpoints?
If you do not like what someone is saying, refute it with what you think should have been said.
Acting like a grumpy undervoltage A.I. sure makes you think you are scholarly and profound, but to everyone else except your doppelgänger shills it looks stupid.

Good diversion, expertly done.
Also irrelevant what “other folks” do or don’t do.

It’s a joke, the book doesn’t really exist, and if you were anything but a humorless stain on the soul of humanity you would know that intuitively.
…. and yes, it is ad hominem, but it is not an attack,  merely an observation, and not a rebuttal to any debate statement you might have advanced.

So… you start.
You know …. you CAN BUY a yellow highlighter to check your own fantasies before you publish them.