Fausto Hoover

Your sophmoric view and collosal ignorance of robots, AIs, and plain unambiguous flat statements is staggering.

Haha. At present GB interpretations, you as JWs, currently have 2 generations of anointed ones. According to what is written in the commentary, you should wait for 7 or 14 different generations, because 7 is a significant biblical number, which make up that One Special Generation. Well, you are even worse than GB researchers, because you do not give any false hope to today's JWs that they will see Armageddon.

FAIL !
Any theology you cannot explain in your own words isn’t true.

There is a lot to be said for keeping things short, concise, direct and to the point.
You may want to try it someday ……
 

Well, Fausto, I had resolved not to waste any more time responding to your silly and distorted rants, which I do read, and think about, but a few minutes ago I ran across this, which accurately answers some of your questions, loaded as they are, about what constitutes “Old Light” and “New Light”.  
It is short, concise, direct and to the point.

I apologise for failing in my resolve to completely ignore you. I will try to do better…

On a separate note, without claiming any inspiration or guidance from God, I am hereby proclaiming as if with a chorus of angelic trumpeteers that … ummmm … Armageddon will occur on …. ummmm … April 16, 2654, at 4:20 PM, at the Pacific Ocean International Dateline.
Yeah …. that’s the ticket!
In lieu of monetary contributions until then … ummmm … nevermind …
Send money!
 

… and “Old Light” and “New Light” have two things in common .
1.)  Among people who SHOULD be given the benefit of the doubt, never attribute as a lie what can be explained by self-centered daydreaming and wishful thinking.  It may be absolutely wrong, but if they believe it… it is NOT A LIE.
2.)  Neither “Old Light” or “New Light” should be confused with “Bud Light”.

Don’t pretend “stuff” doesn’t happen, and didn’t happen that should not have happened out of loyalty to what might have happened right.
Of what value is our faith if it is based on what is not true?
”Stuff Happens”.

“Soldiers of Christ”, and Soldiers of Nations have very similar missions … to change the world to more conform to the wishes of the Government they represent.
The problem Earthly Theocracy and Earthly Nations have is the same  … their leadership is deeply flawed and often only marginally competent.
As each pursues it’s missions there will ALWAYS be massive, unintended casualties. It’s the nature of all organizations, and there is no way that can’t happen. 
There is an adage that goes “Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence”. That includes ignorance, agenda driven thinking, greed, vanity, stubbornness, and the list goes on and on.
We see this as “Monday morning quarterbacks”, but any carefully considered plan of action beforehand often shatters upon first contact with reality.  
The Universe has its own rules.
Consider the Governing Body as if they were a Military High Command, as General Officers whose mission is to direct an invasion of Publishers to an Evil World of humans and make them into Disciples of Christ and worshippers of Jehovah God., 
It’s a tough job, and many mistakes will be made, with many “unnecessay” casualties.
Thats just the way it is, to achieve a victory on the battlefield of ideas, and in both cases, Theocratic and Secular, the same is true … the goal is victory, and it is a battlefield of ideas.
In the midst of World War II, two pivotal Allied operations would come to define the Western Front's path to victory. The first, known as "Operation Overlord," unfolded on June 6, 1944, along the coast of Normandy, France.
This audacious endeavor marked the largest amphibious invasion in history, as thousands of Allied troops stormed the beaches. The toll of D-Day was staggering, with an estimated 10,000 Allied casualties, including those killed, wounded, and missing.
Operation Overlord's success would ultimately serve as a critical turning point in the war, establishing a foothold in Nazi-occupied Europe.
The Society’s Governing Body,  and the Allied Forces  General Staff each have the same problem. They each get a lot of people killed, wounded or missing in action because they themselves are as flawed as the “enemy”.
How can you make this not happen?
You can’t.
However, the road to victory was far from linear. Just a few months later, in September 1944, the Allies launched "Operation Market Garden" in a bold attempt to expedite their advance into Germany. “Bold” in this case meant the operation was stupidly concieved and executed based on bad information, and delusional planners.
This complex operation focused on capturing a series of strategic bridges in the Netherlands, opening a direct path to the heart of Nazi-occupied Europe.
Market Garden's ambitious plan involved a massive airborne assault and ground forces. The cost, though, was substantial, with approximately 17,200 Allied casualties, including those killed, wounded, and missing.. 
Operation Market Garden was marked by both triumphs and setbacks, with the famous "bridge too far" at Arnhem remaining out of Allied hands. Despite its challenges, it showcased the Allies' determination to push deeper into enemy territory.
I see important parallels. You may not.
These two operations, D-Day and Market Garden, played pivotal roles in the eventual defeat of Nazi Germany, demonstrating the courage and sacrifice of the Allied forces in their quest for freedom and victory.
You don’t fight a war, or send 8,000,000 Jehovah’s Witnesses into the field without wasted lives, screw-ups, and collateral damage, which means people get hurt and killed because … that’s what happens.
Courage and Sacrifice.
Sometimes you are sacrificed by incompetence, self serving leadership, or just plain stupidity.
That’s ALWAYS the price that has to be paid in the wars of ideas.
Get used to it.
I don’t like it either, but that’s the way reality works.
”Stuff Happens”,

What Russell said in 1881, that the "new light" never cancels the "old light" is very reasonable from a human point of view. Under one condition. That the "old light" was correct and true.
Let's say it with the help of an organ transplant illustration. The "Old Light of Truth" condemned organ transplantation, calling the act cannibalism. The "New Light of Truth" completely denied that view and to this day says that it is a matter of individual conscience.
If "today's truth" is correct then the "old light of truth" was the "old lie" and was not "light" but "darkness". It's the same thing with hundreds of "clarified beliefs". There is no room for claims about progress. These doctrines are rejected delusions or lies (or at least that's what they now claim to be delusions).
Because the rejected dogmas were never even "New Light" in the past tense when they appeared. When the GB rejected the old "new light" they automatically declared it as "false teaching" (announcement without announcement). These false teachings were then a full part of "true worship". Face it, please.

Did Pastor Russell start destroying his books after he realized there were errors in them? Did Pastor Russell withdraw his book from circulation and start issuing new editions with altered text because he concluded that there were inaccuracies in the original edition?
Does WTJWorg change the content of its digital "spiritual food", leaving no indication that the changes have been made or warning its readers that such a change is about to happen?
If there has been a change in CT Russell's status at WTJWorg in the meantime, that is a problem with today's leadership. But the appearance of Russell was for a long time JW's proof that YHVH through Russell is "restoring true worship" on Earth. This part of the Russell quote you posted supports the public lie Geoffrey Johnson told in his testimony before the ARC.
From both texts/statements it appears that WTJWorg is not the only organization or group of believers that "possess the truth", but that the truth can be found among people who are not part of them.
It is evident that such "religious truth" is not taught in JW congregations nor is it found on any digital content of your official site.
So here the main issue is not about who said it wrong or correctly, but it is about concealing historical accuracy and denying the manipulation of information that almost imperceptibly disappears from the screen.
Few, if any, JW people download digital material and create their own archives. Because of this, they cannot be able to compare things. They can only rely on their memory. And after a while they will begin to convince themself that they are misremembering or that they saw the wrong letters and words while reading. In this way, the WTJWorg Corporation does mental and psychological damage to its followers because it makes them insecure and unstable in themselves. How could you not, when you read one thing today, and tomorrow it's not there or it's written differently. It is really a method of "theocratic war" against one's own "soldiers of Christ".

In the search for understanding, it cannot be done without questioning!
Knowing this, GB does not allow their "understanding" to be questioned by followers. Well, they say that GB should be trusted because, supposedly, Jesus and YHVH trust them.
Really, who in their right mind can dare to question such a statement and claim and other blahblah of GB?

The term "sock puppet" can be translated into Latin as "puppis soccus”, so clearly this is a veiled “ad-puppis soccus” attack on trolls.

SEASON  2, EPISODE  15 -  of the”Eric and Foster Sock Puppet Show” . 
Opening scene:  Eric is in tears because he cannot remember if he is Eric or Foster ….
 

in a debate anybody challenges anybody .
If someone proposes some sort of silly crap, and chooses not to defend it when challenged because there is no defense possible, the rebuff automatically becomes a reproof.
No “authority” is assumed, needed, expressed, or implied.
It’t is just plain common sense, which among the doppelgänger sock puppet brothers, is sorely lacking.
The fact that you cannot focus on defending your silly theological indefensible world views, and ALWAYS… ALWAYS … revert to slanderous and malicious ad-hominem attacks instead of defending your own fantasy based assertions clearly shows where the frustration is.
AND where the real truth is.
I find you both sad, and funny.
For a change, why not reach out and try to back up your silly wish list with actual FACTS.
Everything you think you know is currently based on your warped malicious opinions … not facts.

What the hell are you even tslking about Eric? Afraid I am not PAYING ATTENTION TO YOU?
HahaHAHAhahaha!
”So-called authority”….?
You are clearly delusional.
No surprise there …..
 

Sock puppets?

Of course, anyone with a half-ounce of common sense would cringe, roll their eyes in astonishment, and reject outright ANYONE who would make such an embarrassing presumptuous statement.
Unless of course it could somehow be proven. 
Otherwise the “cringeworthy” factor on that sort of statement approaches 90%.
I forgot … why did Lett even make such a statement?  Was he asking for money?

… when someone says “You can trust us, because Jehovah and Jesus trusts us.”….
….. make them pay cash.
 

I’m sorry … did  miss the comprehensive reply to your assertions that I challenged?
You know … the ones that I specified AND enumerated?
No defense?
I thought so ……
…. no surprise there.
You are “projecting”…. Again ….  
 

1.)   How do you define “progressiveness”? The general society seems to have an evolved definition that changes daily.
And does the truth of God REALLY coincide with the truth proclaimed by the Watchtower?
Let’s test that:
1.a)   Where in the Bible, does God or Christ teach “overlapping generations”?
1.b)   Where in the Bible do the Apostles indicate that is what they were taught?
A “Mission Statement” and what is reality often falls short in ALL corporations.
1.c)   Please provide hard evidence that your above statement is not just a liberal progressive fantasy.
2.)   These two things are obviously not even close to being the same thing.
It is an arrogant false comparison that is intended as a veiled threat, common to all religious leaders since a tribal Shamen claimed the majority of meat for himself “… because God said so!”  
It is blatantly false to anyone with basic common sense. Nice try, though. 
3.)    I fully agree with that.
 New evidence has come out showing the “Cross” Jesus died on may have PROBABLY been more likely to be a two piece construct. Unfortunately Christendom’s guesses are sometimes more accurate than the Society’s guesses. This applies to all areas of theocratic analysis. They do get SOME things right!
Russell’s article in the very first Watchtower “What is Truth?” is an excellent touchstone to support or collapse all of my, or your above points.
“What is Truth” is worthy of framing and hanging up in the bedroom.

Of all the religions on Earth, it is my long and carefully considered opinion, based on what I consider to be irrefutable facts, that as a group, Jehovah’s Witnesses have the best chance of all of them to be found acceptable to God and Christ. 
All the blessings of my life, which is almost over, is because I obeyed what I was taught by Jehovah’s Witnesses. 
The reverse is also true. 
The CORE 15% of what is taught is of life saving value, and to the best of my knowledge cannot be found elsewhere. 
That, to me, means the CORE 15% is in fact the “True Religion”.
I do not expect perfection from employers, spouses (and I have had three …), friends, the Police and/or Court Systems, Armed Forces military leaders, soldiers, sailors or airmen, or the McDonalds drive-thru which almost ALWAYS seems to screw up my order. 
The tolerance I have for applied stupidity I suspect Jehovah God also has for us … after all …. he is the Sovereign God of this Universe, and extending mercy does not diminish his majesty, authority or security in any way.
If we “stick our neck out”, someone can “cut off our head”.  Not so with Jehovah God.
I also suspect that, with MANY Biblical examples to review for reference, he has a high tolerance for us being theologically bat-crap crazy. Thousands of years of colossal screw ups and institutionalized injustices were tolerated before He replaced the old system.
I often think, Jehovah with a casual thought could destroy all his enemies, everywhere, in an instant … so why did He have brave men of valor fight and die on ancient battlefields, and put them through all of that?
Why does Jehovah God now allow the Governing Body to chase away almost as many disciples of his Son, as 8 million recruiters can enlist? 
I almost know, but I can’t prove it, as it would be “preaching error”, if I can’t prove it.
I suspect we are all being sifted, and hardened in “trials by fire” …. after all, the ONLY way you can get experience in how to endure getting beaten … is to get beaten.  
Military Special Forces know this … that is why training includes real torture, beatings, and conditioning on how to endure without being broken. Think of the 144,000. They will be given immortality … life forever with great power and authority, independent of God, but exactly parallel in purpose and agreement!
How does Jehovah know they can be trusted to be good at it? Immortality, by definition, means it can never be revoked.
EXPERIENCE.
Just as a Navy Seal, when dropped from a helicopter 12 miles off shore and has to swim to shore, then run 15 miles to base and without eating or rest, read an entire book, and take a test on it, there are casualties. People die, or fail, or wounded, or thrown out because they just can’t cut it.
Some of us are just plain not good enough, focused enough, motivated enough, tough enough, or strong enough.
You get the test FIRST ….….. and the lesson AFTERWARDS.
 
 
 

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