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  1. 52 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    COMMENTS ON THE ARTICLE: “JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES IN NORWAY: WHY THE OSLO DISTRICT COURT IS WRONG”

    Apostate mentally: The prevalence of ad hominem arguments among apostates is not only foolish, but also deeply offensive. These individuals seem to believe that their arguments are not insulting, when in fact, they are far more damaging than mere insults. It is truly disheartening to witness such a misguided and intellectually feeble tactic employed by apostates and the disfellowshipped.

    ERRONEOUS ARGUMENTS AND WRONG CLAIMS:
    In this case, it is indeed true. By whose standards can a critic believe that the wrong argument is being made? Who are these people, and why should Witnesses care about their opinion?

    The other points about the court system infringing on religious bylaws are quite reasonable.

    A compelling example is the recent dispute involving the Catholic nun, Baudin de la Valette, which prompted the Pope to make an exception and write a letter of complaint to the French government. The issue arose from the French court's decision to unilaterally decide who can and cannot be excommunicated, disregarding the religious bylaw and instead yielding to public opinion.

    Thanks, Srecko. Your new badge of recognition just proves that more foolishness coming from apostates is rewarded by Satan's influence.

  2. 3 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    We will ask Jesus about everything when we see him,........... at least that's what GB Geoffrey Jackson says in his public testimony under oath.

    What makes you believe you will, lol! People need to be written in the scroll of life. Do you truly believe that you will succeed with everything you have said and done? You must face the reality that you have defied God beyond the possibility of redemption. So, enjoy life.

     

  3. 9 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    JWs preaching to sinners. How does it look? What do the JWs preach to them? That now men are allowed to wear beards and women are allowed to wear trousers. And according to you, that is "the truth"?

    In God's eyes, it is truly admirable when flawed individuals strive to do their best. Hence, your opinion holds no weight.

    9 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    How will telling the truth or inaccuracy, errors, whatever, save you from all kinds of sin, when the Bible also says that you reap what you sow?

    Your argument is illogical from a psychological standpoint because you are distorting the original intent. How did Jesus rectify the mistakes of sinners? Did he make them perfect? Did he, perhaps, reveal a path that could lead them to salvation despite their imperfections? So, what you reap just like Pudgy, he has sowed. Whose fault is it in his case, yours, mine, or his?

    9 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    Preaching interpretations from GB will certainly not cover your or anyone else's personal sins.

    Neither did Jesus nor the apostles. Construct your arguments in a more coherent manner. In our current condition, repentance does not free us from sin.

    9 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    In addition, if Jesus has redeemed you from sin, original and any other you commit, then works do not save, but faith and Jesus' sacrifice.

    The impact of Jesus' sacrifice was on the original sin, not on perfection. The concept of redemption is unconventional when the intention behind it is misinterpreted, as you have done.

    9 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    On the other hand, good deeds are not done to redeem yourself from your sins and mistakes, because the redeemer is Jesus, not man alone. Some do "good deeds" because they are haunted by their own conscience or are under the impression of some (own or other's) belief.

    Why bother with good deeds if you merely conceal your evil intentions behind the facade of personal choice? Jesus did not intend for his followers to be hypocrites. He anticipated their honesty with themselves, as it was their decision to embrace His sacrifice for salvation. 

    So, if someone does something wrong, they should be haunted by their conscience. This indicates that they are human and not an unfeeling dog. Remorse is the name it bears. When someone fails to feel remorse after committing a heinous crime, how can they possibly believe that God will not pass judgment upon them for their lack of remorse and repentance? If someone still criticizes God's arrangement, despite claiming to believe in it, they are contradicting themselves by their own actions. That indicates a significant issue with the individual's mental state.

  4. 2 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    What quotient should be the intelligence of a person to accept Jesus?

    I'm interested in how you measure the quality or quantity of that something in the heart, and I guess that would be a prerequisite for a person to accept Jesus, too?

    What category does mind fall into in all of this?

    Intelligence, heart, mind = ?.., transformation?

    Can a person with reduced intelligence carry out the transformation?

    I believe that Christ's message was one of calling upon sinners to repent and obey their heavenly father. So, why would Jesus call upon those who had already repented and become part of Christianity through that repentance?

    How can a sensible person reconcile the conflict between their heart and mind to interpret a different meaning? One organ accepts one thing, but the other does not. Luke 5:32.

    This conflict is thought-provoking, and some people might call that a twisted mentality.

    Therefore, the admonition of the apostle James was truly refreshing. In James 5:19-20 he imparts invaluable wisdom.

    What new insights do you possess? What unique revelations does the Bible impart to you? What is your interpretation of scripture that you find to be in error, besides everything?

  5. 7 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    You're on the wrong track with your reasoning. Since the dilemma of "true and false faith" is a religious question, not an intellectual one. So, Jesus invites all people, regardless of their IQ, to join him. In his sermons, Jesus appeals to the heart, not to the intelligence. So, if you want to defend your position with the Bible, then it is not a "sin" but a "failure".

    An intelligent person would understand it to mean both. However, it seems that this is where you fall short. Therefore, when Jesus invited sinners to repent, it would mean a transformation not only of their hearts but also of their minds.

    The great thing is that you're not a psychologist; otherwise, you would be providing incompetent and detrimental advice.

    If you choose to remove yourself from salvation, it is an acknowledgment of failure as an inherited sinner.

    7 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    Please look at the map of Europe and the country where I live. It is not Orthodox but Catholic. You don't need to "attack" something that I don't defend, because that doesn't make sense for discussion.

    Orthodox, Catholic, Protestant, and other religious denominations that are considered to be false by God. However, within the EU, Orthodox and Catholicism are the most favored, and this sentiment is echoed in other countries such as Norway, Canada, Australia, Russia, and the UK. These places are known for their severe persecution of the Watchtower due to their practice of listening to apostates.

    Who is being used by Satan as a tool to persecute God's people, in any part of the world?

  6. 2 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    Intelligence is not the only quality that can save a person from fraud. JWs, along with many other religious people, are proof of this.

    True intelligence lies in recognizing the importance of not giving heed to apostates. The recent meeting only serves to confirm how easily Satan can manipulate a susceptible mind to distort and misrepresent facts when discussing sensitive issues, such as child abuse. Once exposed as frauds, they resort to baseless rants, much like the one you have just made.

    2 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    Word Origin

    When someone has the same opinions and beliefs as those held by most other people, these opinions are usually considered the "right" opinions to have. In English such opinions might be called "orthodox."

    What relevance does the word "definition" have in relation to your particular regional Orthodox religion? It appears that you are defending that false religion that defends the heinous crimes of Russia's Putin. How much child abuse has that abusive person caused to Jehovah's Witnesses in Russia? Pause and consider the numerous forms of child abuse. Why aren't you addressing this issue here? That's right, you just want to act foolishly and selectively.

    2 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    Considering that I do not belong to any religion, your statement makes no sense. Another thing that needs to be said for objective accuracy is the term "orthodoxy". Every religion is orthodox in its essence, even when it changes in its doctrines. The country I live in is historically Catholic. JWs are orthodox because they do not accept religious change unless approved by their GB. So JWs are completely orthodox as long as they believe that they are the only ones right in claiming that their Christianity is "original" and is "only true".

    Are you implying that your community is free from child abusers? Do you believe that your region is somehow flawless? If so, I have doubts regarding your discernment. Your attempts to deflect do not hold any weight. None of your deflections are effective on me.

    I seriously question whether the approval of "GAY" relationships by the Catholic Church will truly please God.

    It is nonsensical to believe that you are a professional psychologist capable of providing advice on child abuse when you are unaware of the role that government and institutions play in perpetuating the issue. Your deception does not align with the reality of the situation. Therefore, your religious beliefs or lack thereof are irrelevant.

    2 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    God is as successful as his creation. Considering that God said that everything created is "good", then every person today is also "success" because he/she is the inheritor of the original act of creation. Also, God nowhere indicated that any child born of Adam and Eve is/was "failure". If you want to use a religiously colored term for something that designates me or you in some moral category, then it is the word "sinful", not "failure".

    I reject your blasphemy against God's Holy Spirit. Your failure is your choice, not God's.


     

  7. 8 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    If WTJWorg wanted to prove its "unwavering commitment" in dealing with CSA, then it should not, as in the case of the Australian branch, hide from its own public the large number of pedophiles who ran rampant in JW congregations all those 60 years and more. Moreover, the GB instructions contributed to the ineffectiveness of elders handling CSA claims within the congregation. Instead of cooperating with the civil authorities, they kept everything secret and even prevented the victims from fighting for minimal justice.

    I believe you are an intelligent person, although at times that might be a stretch. However, if the society were to maintain a list of things that you are contesting, things they toke seriously, what could they be concealing based on your perception?

    You mentioned 60 years in contrast to other religions that have annual occurrences, even in your Orthodox religion within your region and among your people in your community.

    The guidance provided by the Watchtower is intended for sensible individuals to contemplate upon. Once again, you are commending the commendable nature of Jesus, as well as acknowledging that if one believes in the efficacy of God's guidance in scripture, it's ineffective. You are calling God a failure, yet you don't comprehend that you are the failure as his creation. 

    What kind of commission do you believe existed prior to the ARC that the Watchtower Society should have collaborated with, despite already fully cooperating with the ARC? Could you provide evidence to support your unfounded assertion that they didn't cooperate with the ARC, considering the fact that they provided the information being requested? It would be advisable for you to carefully consider your remarks before making such claims. People might think, you actually don't think.

    8 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    GB has already proven its "transformative" role. After a decades of banning beards and trousers, a "successful transformation" has been carried out. Does anyone who sees only this sliver of reality about GB expect that these are the people "of unwavering morality"  who will be the foundation of the NWO you speak so passionately about?

    How is the discussion of beards relevant to the ARC issue? Cease distorting your baseless accusations to obfuscate the matter at hand.

    8 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    GB people who bring bans and permits about beards and pants, about monthly reports, about greeting and not greeting former JWs, etc. are not the base or foundation of some imaginary new and healthy human society. This type of individuals who are united in a specific group of manipulators of other people's faith and conscience does not deserve trust.

    Your response seems obtuse and nonsensical, filled with irrelevant rants.

    8 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    Are you waiting for a transformation? Transformation will not happen tomorrow or in the future. If it didn't start happening in the past or today, then it won't happen. While an individual lives, he/she is or is not part of the transformation. In which transformation are we personally participating? Will there be a transformation due to our activity or passivity? Changes happen with us or without us, that's clear. Don't wait for the NWO, because some other people will live in it. You and I already live in a form of the NWO created by people from the past. To put it simply.

    Do you have the expertise of a psychologist to make such distinctions? Who is now dictating people's actions? Stop from sharing if you don't have something meaningful to contribute, your sounding like Pudgy.

  8. @Srecko Sostar

    Thank you, Srecko, for sharing this article that you thought would better your false cause. I want to point out that your argument regarding child abuse and the Watchtower lacks understanding and validity. Moreover, it is evident that the Australian Royal Commission (ARC) did not conduct thorough research on the Watchtower, which now necessitates higher courts to make the final decision due to the biased and uninformed rulings of lower courts.

    *** g99 4/8 p. 8 Who Will Protect Our Children? ***
    Who Will Protect Our Children?

    This article, dated in the year 1999, predates the UN's interest in 2012. It serves as a strong argument for highlighting the Watchtower's unwavering commitment to addressing the issue of child abuse since the 60s, even before laws were passed and debated by governments worldwide in 2015.

    It seems that you have pointed out a contradiction in your actions, likening it to a hypocrite and drawing a parallel between your behavior as that of the Pharisees. This comparison is quite striking and thought-provoking. Your hypocrisy is evident as you persist in associating with an individual who has been proven guilty of the same position that you so passionately defend. Furthermore, you express gratitude for the information provided by this discredited individual, causing your credibility to diminish completely.

    Yes, that's right! The ultimate solution to these heinous crimes of pedophilia and child abuse lies in the establishment of a new world order guided by the principles of Christ. While we await this transformative era, we must diligently address the issue at hand, even if it means temporarily employing stopgap measures. We rely on individuals of unwavering morality. How do you control the uncontrollable in Satan's World? That's the Watchtowers expectation in ensuring that our collective effort maintains hope for a better future without such atrocities. 

    Where in the article does it claim that the Watchtower is infallible and that the Elders have the ability to read minds? If they possessed such a power, they would have been able to prevent your friend from making a serious mistake.

    Remember your criticism about the GB. I understand your point about how you often bring up the imperfections of the Governing Body. However, it seems contradictory that you expect them to act in specific ways to satisfy your personal preferences. It's important to consider the broader picture and be realistic in our expectations.

  9. 16 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    Are JWs aware that the "global issue" has long been global in WTJWorg, with failed GB procedures that harm the victims in KH ?

    No, that is merely a distorted version of events, as told by uninformed witnesses and former members. Since the 60s, The Watchtower has consistently brought attention to the issue of child abuse, fearlessly delivering their message in various forms. The publicans and the letter to the Elders provide evidence of that. However, instead of learning, it seems like the wrong party is dissenting. It doesn't matter how deeply misinformed individuals hold onto lies, because ultimately, God knows the truth.

  10. 59 minutes ago, Matthew9969 said:

    Your brothers and sisters are avidly watching the news networks, too bad they are so out of touch with reality they keep on watching for poll results on if George Washington won the primary.

    If there had been witnesses in Washington's time, they would not have paid attention to Paul Revere. lol!

    One of the concerns they should be vigilant about is identifying apostates.

  11. 3 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    think you are definitely wrong because of your imprecise and non-objective view of the problems at WTJWorg. I get the impression, from the comments, that religions like Catholic and JW are under attack from the secular government. So it's as if you're denying the reality of pedophilia within church structures, about which the atheistic-satanic structure is planting false information, slander. You don't mean it? Or? Yes, you really mean it. Terrible.

    When the United Nations was approached with the dilemma of child abuse in 2013 by addressing the many aspects of child abuse, which included child labor, child trafficking etc., it became evident that these problems, which had been largely ignored by societies, was gaining greater visibility. As governments began to shift their attention towards religious institutions, the Vatican emerged as the most suitable target due to their visible documented incidents.

    I cannot deny the existence of pedophilia, especially when it involves someone accused of it and is well-known and supported by you. Speaking out against denying pedophilia in this situation is irrational and contradictory coming from you.

    It is not just the information itself, but the act of singling out that renders it hypocritical and misleading. You are aware that this is a global issue, one that affects all institutions around the world, including those located in your own country or place of origin as well.

    Post all of those incidents from all world's institutions and ensure consistent adherence to proper protocols. Has the issue been resolved with the AU commissions inquiry? I have noticed statistics indicating that the problem has escalated since 2015. Has the government taken measures to address it effectively?

    Have you truly convinced yourself that over the course of a decade, you have managed to make a positive impact despite your distorted views?

    Let's expose the hypocrisy of governments like Australia, Canada, Britain, and Norway who seek selectivity for doing the devil's bidding. We must also address the hypocrisy of those who present secondhand information as fact.

    The lack of presence during an incident introduces bias. I've encountered situations where women falsely accused her lover of rape out of vengeance for being dumped, and justice was nowhere to be found for the guy that was arrested and humiliated before the prosecution tossed out the arrest. Such incidents, some involving children, are far too common.

    There was another incident where an 11-year-old girl approached a complete stranger and threatened to scream and accuse him of molestation in a mall if he didn't give her 20 dollars. It appears that the misguided perspective lies with you and your friends, who continuously dwell on the same topic without realizing you have no positive impact.

    Do those incidents make the news? Are they being tracked by anyone? Should these situations be exaggerated to the point where no single person in society can be trusted? That is exactly what the devil wants. Why are you helping?

    I have experienced similar incidents, not only concerning worldly society but also within the Watchtower community by sisters. I could share some noteworthy events, but it would be unkind to engage in gossip and slander. Why should I tarnish the name of God in that manner? Merely to gain friends here, laugh out loud! 
     

  12. Oh, no! Srecko, how will you explain your egregious stance to other religions that don't visit this site? Or is the hypocrisy of former members limited, lol!

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    Does God have standards for the way Christians should behave and dress? The fashions of the world come and go. Many people become slaves to these fashions and to keep up with the fashion of the time, will sacrifice their time, money, and even their health.

    Many of these fashions do not promote the principles of the Bible on dress. The wearing of tattoos, jewelry, saggy or tight “revealing” clothing has become very widespread even among professed Christians. But do these fit the standard that God requires? Let’s see what the Bible says about God’s standards on the Christian’s presentation to the world.

  13. 17 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    What really bothers you? Former members or so-called "negative comments"?
    And what do you think are "negative comments"? Are the "negative comments" something that is incorrect or is it what exposes religious hypocrisy?

    I never pay any mind to ex-witnesses, hence they simply do not bother me. When it comes to their lies, my focus lies on emphasizing the undeniable truth, completely detached from the former members' inclination to twist it to their advantage.

    So, why does it matter if a Catholic lawyer is supporting the Watchtower? Are you suggesting that they shouldn't? Religion stands strong in the face of manipulative governments and the spread of falsehoods and exaggerations by former members, especially when it's time to take a stand.

    Remember, there are people here who identify themselves as witnesses and are willing to embrace your perspectives, even if they may be biased. Why? Because some of them, especially females, possess a misguided loyalty. Instead of recognizing the ways in which Satan manipulates humanity through the suffering of children, they become fixated on their own personal emotions.

    If someone truly grasps the essence of scripture, it would be a misguided loyalty to turn a blind eye to the devious manipulation of Satan and the individuals he employs to sow division among God's people. No matter how strongly someone believes they are a devout Christian, if they fail to recognize this larger scheme, they cannot consider themselves faithful followers of Christ, let alone true witnesses.

  14. Does it matter if people are tuning in to a news source known for its shameful content? I only watch it for the humor.

    Does that discount the fact that Pudgy, this disfellowshiped Republican registered voter and Racist tried to influence his political agenda here?

    If it was truly disheartening for him to post it now, in a presidential election year, Pudgy and FOX NEWS would have shown outrage in 2021. Why didn't FOX NEWS mention it in 2021, the outrage felt by those Confederate white supremacist Republicans, MAGA, attempting to influence and corrupt our nation?

    This is why Witnesses shouldn't engage in politics, which is precisely why they should abstain from it. Now Pudgy, can you genuinely refute Biden's 2021 declaration? Avoid distorting, manipulating, or twisting your words. Provide concrete evidence that he did not make that declaration in 2021, rather than in 2024, a presidential election year?

  15. 8 hours ago, George88 said:

    Once more, we encounter the perspective of someone consumed by hatred. I can't help but question whether this person would have objected if Jesus and his apostles had confronted the unjust actions of the ruling authorities of their time. In this instance, I am inclined to support the GW translation.

    It appears that the disfellowshipped person has adopted a new persona, as the previous one was so effective that it was disregarded by the rational. Can't wait to place that person on the ignore list, lol!

    It's amusing how arrogance cunningly distorts the narrative to create an illusion of moral superiority, when in reality, they are actually in the lowest position.

    Whoops! Already have, lol!

  16. 1 hour ago, George88 said:

    How could the Watchtower deceive its followers when both ex-members and the Norwegian government have revealed its deceptive practices? It seems the real issue may be with ex-members and Norway are spreading misinformation to the public.

    I wonder if ex-witnesses should also be looked into as a collective group, given their influence in Norway's government.

    https://www.sciencenorway.no/cyberwarfare-election-politics/researchers-to-investigate-whether-foreign-powers-attempted-to-influence-norways-2021-parliamentary-elections/1916250

    Yet, we have an individual declaring that right-wing NOX NEWS should be accepted as factual. That's a laugh.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-024-02605-5

    https://nordmedianetwork.org/latest/news/a-nordic-effort-to-fight-disinformation-and-information-disorder/

    Has Norway accomplished it's disinformation campaign? Not in the least since they are part of the problem not the solution.

  17. On 3/18/2024 at 11:20 PM, Srecko Sostar said:

    The modern generations of JWs are unique because they heard an outrageous declaration. Imagine! As of today, GB allows you to use your Bible-trained conscience in certain cases that THEY approve.

    It is scandalous to hear such a thing, and it is even more scandalous that JWs agree to worship in this way a group of self-proclaimed "guardians of doctrine". 

    Srecko, would you be so inclined to deny the ancient dress code for true followers? How about their eating habits? How about how they worship? Do you believe that Jesus' purpose in coming to earth was to deliberately mislead the apostles and the people?

    On 3/18/2024 at 11:20 PM, Srecko Sostar said:

    We all here know very well that WTJWorg does not fully accept "natural conscience" because they say it is unreliable without God's Word.

    Srecko, to validate the argument, all we need to do is look at what you have become. 

     

  18. 4 hours ago, JW Insider said:

    *** w86 4/1 p. 31 Questions From Readers ***
    Approved association with Jehovah’s Witnesses requires accepting the entire range of the true teachings of the Bible, including those Scriptural beliefs that are unique to Jehovah’s Witnesses. What do such beliefs include?

    What is the purpose of this demonstration for the public? Is it acceptable to surround yourself with negative influences? Wouldn't it be more comprehensive to include the beginning of the article, rather than just selecting a specific section to cater to your skeptical perspective? You should emphasize, for instance, not associating with people who act and behave like Pharisees. The article's main focus is precisely that. Did the Pharisees truly possess God's truth?

    Why on earth would a Jehovah's Witness want to associate with someone who behaves in a way that goes against scripture? 

  19. It appears to me that this is a key aspect of the 2030 initiative ideology. While the Rothschilds were indeed influential individuals who were able to sway governments, much like present-day billionaires, the true impetus for change stems from the omnipotent forces (Satan) shaping our world. In this case, there is a false God of this world.

    However, what drives action within a political framework? Power!

    What is unfolding before our eyes in today's world? The relentless struggle for power. The overwhelming tide of people rising. We cannot underestimate the direct and sinister influence of Satan in all of this.

    However, it is up to individuals to decide how they choose to worship God. Satanism, as a form of religion, cannot be regarded as a true religion. Consequently, just as ancient practices of child sacrifice had a place in God's world, such sacrifices would never be accepted by the True God of our universe.

    Despite the promising 2030 initiative for those involved, it is unfortunately disintegrating due to the actions of certain individuals in positions of authority. A recent incident serves as a glaring example, involving a conflict between peaceful Muslims and a Jewish representative that unfolded just this week.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/11/us-delegation-saudi-arabia-kippah?ref=upstract.com

    Saudi Arabia was among the countries that agreed to the initiative signed by approximately 179 nations in or around 1994. However, this initiative is now being undermined by the devil himself, who is sowing discord among the delegates due to the ongoing Jewish-Hamas (Palestine) conflict. Fostering antisemitism.

    What kind of sacrifice does Satan accept with the death of babies and children in places like Gaza, Ukraine, and other conflicts around the world, whether in the past or present, that God wouldn't?

    Whatever personal experiences we may have had with well-known individuals, true Christians understand that current events were foretold long ago, and nothing can prevent them from unfolding. What we are witnessing is the result of Satan's wrath upon humanity, as was predicted.

    A true religion will not involve itself in the politics of this world, as it is aware of the many detrimental factors associated with such engagement. It understands the true intentions of Satan for this world and wisely chooses to stay unaffected by them.

  20. 3 hours ago, JW Insider said:

    Yes. I criticized your post. I would not have criticized it if it wasn't completely wrong though.

    The only one who is completely mistaken is you, but I don't really value your perspective or way of thinking.

    3 hours ago, JW Insider said:

    I think that instead of clarifying, you sometimes prefer to laugh derisively at all those who aren't able to figure out exactly what you are hiding. 

    And, I think everyone would be happy to see that so-called "careful analysis of the tablet data." 

    True Jehovah's Witnesses are truly amused by the desperation of an Ex-Bethelite, it's quite entertaining, LOL!

    3 hours ago, JW Insider said:

    Thank you for confirming what I wrote earlier about the 18 year cycles and patterns with the above link.

    You're welcome. Now apply the information with its accurate designation, rather than misrepresenting it to mean 587 BC. 

    However, I am still eagerly anticipating the evidence, which directly states the occurrence of the Jerusalem destruction in 587 BC, found in any of those tablets. Inform me when you are prepared, despite your continuous effort to avoid and bypass the question.

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