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  1. On 2/3/2019 at 7:40 AM, Jack Ryan said:

    (Second auditorium is a small room attached to a main auditorium, sometimes used by people 

    who don’t feel well or  baby keep crying) 

    And texters and social media users and, if possible, snoozers. Blinking cheek!!!

     

    On 2/3/2019 at 7:40 AM, Jack Ryan said:

    I’m thinking about stop going to meetings .

    Do it, do it, do it!!!

    On 2/3/2019 at 7:40 AM, Jack Ryan said:

    I’m fed up with org’s soliciting money.

    Yeah! Yeah! why not not just set up those bank drafts or standing order thingys, get the tax back and be done......In fact, make it a condition of joining!!

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  2. On 2/3/2019 at 8:24 PM, JOHN BUTLER said:

    So they count as JW's from age of 3 when they put in Report Slips,

    and they can get baptised from age of 5. 

    How desperate the GB / JW Org is getting, and how competitive it must be getting for parents. 

    Oh look!!! Those silly disciples are still at it!

    Just like it says at Mark 10:13-16.....................

    "People now began bringing him young children for him to touch them, but the disciples reprimanded them. At seeing this, Jesus was indignant and said to them: “Let the young children come to me; do not try to stop them, for the Kingdom of God belongs to such ones. Truly I say to you, whoever does not receive the Kingdom of God like a young child will by no means enter into it.” And he took the children into his arms and began blessing them, laying his hands on them."

  3. 36 minutes ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

    And as W/t material has been in production for far longer than i've been on this forum, you are obviously wrong.

    Just on the basis of forum presence I would hazard you win hands down.

    37 minutes ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

    as usual from you

    Always glad to meet customer expectations.

    38 minutes ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

    But for person that hides behind a pussy, I don't expect anything better

    I have reported your abusive comments anonymously to 0300 1234 999. Expect a visit.

  4. 2 hours ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

    there were people on both sides of this issue

    It's not about the issue around who is on what side or the other.

    It's primarily about the safety of children and the failure of adults, whoever they are, to discharge their responsibility to ensure that safety. And it's also about the moral responsibility of those both inside and outside of organisations who cover up detailed allegations out of cowardice and misplaced loyalties.

    These responsibilities are not removed by the opinions of others.

  5. 13 hours ago, Anna said:

    @JOHN BUTLER  posted on November 18th 2018:...........  "For, in my opinion, it is the duty of anyone that has any information concerning child abuse to report it to the police." 

    This is a quote from the original poster who subsequently asks for the opinion of others.. The opinion of others can only be Yes, No, or Maybe. As this is a UK issue, there is a moral, not legal, duty, for an informed third party to report such matters to a suitable authority. In view of the intimate knowledge this alleger claims to have,  the option was suggested that they discuss the matter anonymously with Childline on a Freephone number 0800 1111.

    What is particularly odious about the whole exchange is that the party in question is vociferously complaining and making allegations about others who, in their opinion, "cover up" such cases.

    Consider:

    • An allegation has been made.The accuser has given their opinion as above.
    • Others have expressed their varied opinions. 
    • An option that would report the matter to a suitable authority, anonymously, has been given.
    • Yet the alleger continues to dither, continues to accuse others of the same moral hypocrisy. 
    • The alleged potential for further harm remains.

    This person, regardless of status, is appearing to behave like an active part of the problem they are continually complaining about. Why is there even a discussion on the matter?

  6. 21 hours ago, JW Insider said:

    Edgar Clay was effeminate in a way that kind of creeped out other Bethelites.

    Yes, probably they were some of the more creepy Bethelites, of whom there were a few I met in the 70s.

    My recollection of Edgar, who I met just after I was baptised, was of a rather friendly, polite, little, old gentleman. He had quite a soft voice and a rather eccentric way of speaking, almost like a stammer, and a bit of a twitchy eye, like a kind of squint that would intermittently assert itself. I suppose that might have made him a bit "unfashionable" along with his early '50s dress sense. I knew nothing then of his background, that he was one of the anointed, started his Bible study in 1914, Bethel from 1926 etc. 

    In the ensuing years he visited us at home or we met up with him at Bethel when he keenly showed me round the various printing presses and how to operate the linotype press as in the photo. Jack Barr was working next to him at the time. He was anything but "creepy". In fact, he gave me a great deal of encouragement in my most formative years coming into Jehovah's organisation. I lost touch with him late '70s and actually do not know when he died. He was in his 80s when I last saw him.

    I found out later that he was known by the brothers as one of the "three wise men" along with Pryce Hughes and Ewart Chitty because of the lead they took at Assemblies and Conventions during the 40s and 50s.

    I knew him as an unassuming, kindly and encouraging gentleman, with one or two "minor" physical oddities that provided food for behind-the-back ridicule on the part of some Bethelite "creeps".

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  7. 42 minutes ago, The Librarian said:

    I heard one brother say one time that the point 'is to be the last JW standing' ..... you get the idea.

    Didn't Peter say something similar?

    Yes indeed...., but not wisely (unless I am mistaken)...."But Peter, in response, said to him: “Although all the others are stumbled in connection with you, I will never be stumbled!”" Matt.26:33

  8. On 3/12/2016 at 11:48 PM, Jack Ryan said:

    By then he had roomed with the same man for 30 years and just about gushed when speaking about him.

    "Then, too, I have had the same friend and roommate for the past thirty years or more, Brother Edgar Clay, whose life
    story you may have already read; but now we share a lovely room, a most pleasant home with a fine view facing south, and
    an extra window looking out to rising fields and trees and the setting sun in all its glory." WT Feb 15 1963.

    You call that gushing?

     

     

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