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    2 Corinthians 5:20 - "Substitute" or "Supplicate"?

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    2 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    Well, how NWT Translation came from supplicate to substitute

    Not a comprehensible question in the context of your post.

    Christians serve as "ambassadors" in 2Cor.5:20 parlance. An ambassador appears to still carry the meaning of a governmental representative (or "substitute" for the same ) I believe. A particular task assigned to Christian ambassadors as described in the statement at 2Cor.5:20 is to "beseech" or "entreat" others to become reconciled to God through Christ. The word "supplicate" has a relevance to both of those words, but not to the word "substitute".

    So as far as 2Cor.5:20 is concerned, Christians substitute for (represent) Christ in the activity of beseeching or entreating (supplicating) others to become reconciled to God. This appears to harmonise with the comission given by Jesus to his followers at Matthew 28:18-20. (compare Matt.25:40).

    Sam Herd Compares Shunning your own Children to Casting out Demons.

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    21 minutes ago, JW Insider said:

    it showed who had the upper hand and who held the "moral high ground."

    Unfortunately, this stance is often a feature of hypocrisy. [cite any number of religio/political examples here].

    However, I agree with the concept that humans, whoever they are, do not have the moral high ground ultimately. This belongs to Jehovah alone and I think this particular matter is an example of this.

    We must not overlook the sobering fact that, at the present time, the words of Romans 13:3-4 still hold true regarding the secular authorities:

    "For those rulers are an object of fear, not to the good deed, but to the bad. Do you want to be free of fear of the authority? Keep doing good, and you will have praise from it; for it is God’s minister to you for your good. But if you are doing what is bad, be in fear, for it is not without purpose that it bears the sword. It is God’s minister, an avenger to express wrath against the one practicing what is bad."

    JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES’ SCRIPTURALLY BASED POSITION ON CHILD PROTECTION

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    4 hours ago, AllenSmith34 said:

    be confident the Watchtower is doing everything it can to obey the laws of the land and more importantly, obey God's laws.

    I would agree with this, as a sentiment.

    However what is NOT true is that everything has been done to make members aware of the dangers predatory pedophiles present. More is required.

    Also, (and I absolutely affirm this, (not from my own experience but from the experience of others), NOT ENOUGH is being done to help those falsely accused of this disgusting crime. Those I have known in this dire predicament DID NOT know how to handle it.

    I think the basic problem revpolves around naivety and incompetence. Spin it as you will. 1Cor.14:20 says: "be babes as to badness". This has been explained as inexperienced and said to be tandem with being "full grown in powers of understanding".  The latter has not always been evident.

    I don't care about media trash on this subject. I just know that that my own experience of these matters confirms what I have said. In the main, JWs are "babes" when it comes to this issue. Many have had an "It Can't Happen Here" mentality, still very much in evidence.

    We live and (hopefully) we learn.

    Tears As Six Family Members Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Die After Torrential Rainfall(Photos)

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    17 hours ago, Anna said:

    probably gone to bed

    Quite true!

    13 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

    Gone Away's explanation

    No need to reinvent the wheel after Anna and Melinda's contributions.

    In your own case, you are quite right in suggesting various contributory reasons for the specific accident in this news report and I agree with your common-sense reasoning regarding the specific incident.

    My comment, in response to some general scriptural points raised by Melinda, merely rounds out what she was saying as a reminder of the general situation mankind find themselves under present circumstances. This, in turn, could prompt a connection with Rev. 21:2-4, something which many more directly connected with the specific event will no doubt find of comfort as time goes on..

    You obviously have other issues as indicated in your  responses, for example:

    13 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

    It is my opinion that Jehovah has NEVER protected individual people in everyday situations

    This statement could be true, depending on what you mean by  "everyday". One man's "everyday" is another's "special event".

    13 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

    dragging up a scripture to invoke supernatural intervention

    This reveals perhaps some sort of underlying issue you have that is only prompted by the comments regarding the specific incident in this news report. It probably needs its own thread if it hasn't been raised elsewhere.

    Tears As Six Family Members Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Die After Torrential Rainfall(Photos)

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    3 hours ago, Melinda Mills said:

    time and unforeseen occurrence befalls us all.

    Quite true. Also, there is an issue being settled at the moment: 

    "But Satan answered Jehovah: “Skin for skin. A man will give everything that he has for his life. But, for a change, stretch out your hand and strike his bone and flesh, and he will surely curse you to your very face.” Then Jehovah said to Satan: “Look! He is in your hand! Only do not take his life!” " Job 2:4-6.

    Goodie Night?

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    The Librarian reacted to this Confused

    Confused?

    This was just never mentioned as a "goodie night" in my country ( I have only been in 10 congregations mind you).

    Having food after book studies was the usual thing in my experience. We often do it now after special congregation meetings and always after our monthly congregational meetings for field service. We never think of it as something special, it's just business as usual. I'm as interested as you are in places where customs may be different.

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