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2 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

impression that only Good, Right things is from God

Do you think otherwise?

2 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

if you are not guided by Him then your deeds is in red field.

Don't really understand this comment.

1 hour ago, JW Insider said:

Did those angels in the Yearbook experiences really make a person miss when they shot bullets at point blank range during times of war and persecution in modern times? Did angels make a person of the right heart condition glance over at a cart? Or was it the receptive heart condition that caused them to glance? Did an angel send a Witness to the door exactly when the householder finished praying for guidance in their search?

No one has a definitive answer to these type of questions. It is best really to follow the scriptural statements such as those at James 1:17, Matt.5:45, Ps.34:7, Ecc.9:11.

We know the angels are involved in the preaching activity, but only the most naive would draw a conclusion that the trolleys have guardian angels when we respectfully point out that on a personal basis this is not the case with humans.

It is tempting to try and read into our work today the kind of events described in the early days as recorded in the book of Acts but sadly for some, such visible manifestations of Jehovah's angels working on behalf of humans have gone the same way as the gift of tongues.

1 hour ago, JW Insider said:

doesn't really matter if he should expand it to include all persons who get hurt from all types of crimes and injustices.

Very generous of you. But not an opinion I share at all.

56 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Well,  in case when Company is on so called "right way", according to logic you present, if i understand your thinking, Holy Spirit "direct" GB.

"you"? Not sure who you mean.

Once again you are displaying a flaw in reasoning in attributing the minutiae of the actions of men to the holy spirit.  So by your understanding if it goes right it is holy spirit, if it goes wrong it's not?

I really don't know what you are trying to describe there, but it isn't an experience I am familar with.

3 hours ago, Cos said:

yielded up

Jesus expression at Luke 23:46 seems to have more reference to "commiting" or "entrusting" his future life prospects to God as opposed to describing the death state which, whilst a relevant concept in view of the nature of Jesus mission to earth, is not the focus of attention here.

The psalmist has it well described at Psalm 31:5 "Into your hand I commit (shall place) my spirit;" ESV. This is in harmony with Jesus earlier words: "let, not my will, but yours take place". Luke 22:42.

Q:   Is the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses        ‘Inspired’?

A:   No, it is not.  ?

11 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

are they "still spirit directed" ?

Seems to be an inference that if the group is "spirit-directed" it can't get things wrong, therefore if it does get things wrong, it cannot be "spirit-directed".

There's a flaw in the logic here. It's like saying a doctor cannot be a good one if he can't drive.

Get that flaw sorted and you might have a chance.

Recent Kingdom Hall Sale for $11,750,000 in Los Gatos, CA (U.S.A.)???

Should've held out for more!!

On 7/29/2018 at 7:12 PM, Jack Ryan said:

Yet we aren't allowed to even leave bags of produce outside the front doors for others who want/need them?

What a nasty country you live in!

"ATMs and Credit/Debit machines have popped up in assembly halls."

What's the difference between this and cash by the way?

On 7/29/2018 at 6:27 PM, Jack Ryan said:

Kokotajlo presents this world from the perspective of somebody who has experienced and understands it.

This is an attractive premise for any film about Jehovah's Witnesses. But does the reality live up to the hype?

On 7/29/2018 at 6:12 PM, Jack Ryan said:

"becomes pregnant...."

This is an observation on what happens to one of the daughters in the film. A little disconcerting as a statement. Are we suggesting a virgin birth here?... or what?

On 7/29/2018 at 6:24 PM, Jack Ryan said:

"He shows us a closed community..."

Presumably an observation on the director's achievement. I don't know how this can be a valid portrayal, as Jehovah's Witnesses are actually so open as a community that they spend hours knocking at people's doors to invite all and sundry to join their community. Probably needs a bit of context.

On 7/29/2018 at 6:27 PM, Jack Ryan said:

"to mess with the body is the worst sin"

Where did this ridiculous observation come from? Surely not from one who "has experienced and understands it." referring to the Jehovah's Witnesses perspective???

On 7/29/2018 at 6:27 PM, Jack Ryan said:

"Kokotajlo presents this world from the perspective of somebody who understands"

Oh dear. They are saying it again. How could they possibly know? Unless they were actually Jehovah's Witnesses themselves?

Now these "critical reviews" seem to be a sad substitute for the movie, and actually appear to be sounding a death knell for the director in the mind of anyone with a shred of intellect. I really hope the have not scuppered the opportunity for a "directorial debutante" to gain a measure of credibility for any future outing. Perhaps some will be persuaded to think for themselves on this matter, and share a viewpoint of some critical worth, at least marginally above the crass and prejudiced shoal of intellect displayed in these reviews.

On 7/28/2018 at 10:51 PM, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

the closing speaker at the Assembly used the wrong figure of 7,500,000, twice, as reported to me by a local Elder.

Absolutely well done @James Thomas Rook Jr. for getting clarity on this. Thanks a lot for perservering and for publishing! That's why I read your posts,  despite the wasabi flavouring

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Protect Young Witness Girls

You probably need to expand this a bit as it has a rather narrow focus which I am sure you don't intend.

On 7/29/2018 at 6:37 PM, Jack Ryan said:

But the Bible says god is not slow? Please explain.

Certainly: "However, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day. Jehovah is not slow concerning his promise, as some people consider slowness, but he is patient with you because he does not desire anyone to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance" 2Pet.3:8-9

On 7/29/2018 at 6:39 PM, Jack Ryan said:

How was this justice?

Probably the nature of the test might give a clue?

On 7/29/2018 at 6:41 PM, Jack Ryan said:

If he could turn sticks into snakes in Egypt, it's reasonable he could fix cancer.

Perhaps you could elaborate on why he does not?

On 7/29/2018 at 6:43 PM, Jack Ryan said:

Of course that goes against the saying that Jehovah created ALL life.

disease

• a disorder of structure or function in a human, animal, or plant, especially one that produces specific symptoms or that affects a specific location and is not simply a direct result of physical injury.
• a particular quality or disposition regarded as adversely affecting a person or group of people.

Any chance you could rephrse the question in the light of the definition for disease?

On 7/29/2018 at 6:52 PM, Jack Ryan said:

Can whoever is in charge of the Kingdom Hall WiFi see what people have been doing on it? And can they see the name of the device that is doing it? Thanks!

Google it.

4 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Elders: "Bro Fred. We see that you have your beliefs on Bible teachings that is contrary to WT beliefs. We love you very much, but we must to disfellowship you, not because You have your own beliefs in your brain, but because you have no WT beliefs in your brain. Sorry!" 

Bit confused. Was this your experience? Or did you make it up?

On 7/26/2018 at 1:50 AM, Cos said:

Why would Jesus “yield up”, what was about to cease existing, into the hands of His father (Luke 23:46)?

Although likely unintended by the poster, this question exposes the fudamental gap in understanding that characterises the poster's opininion throughout.

Answer this question correctly, and you are well on the way to becoming " thoroughly able to grasp mentally with all the holy ones what is the breadth and length and height and depth, and to know the love of the Christ which surpasses knowledge, that YOU may be filled with all the fullness that God gives." Eph.3:18-19.

On 7/27/2018 at 9:21 AM, Jesus.defender said:

ANY cult can play THAT game!

But ....none do. You're on a looser I'm afraid. All you can do is bluster and rant.

Your colleagues trained you well. Acts 7:54,57.

25 minutes ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

If, however, we do find life inhabiting far-flung, water-borne venues, it will strengthen the abiogenesis thesis.

Don't talk wet!!!

2 hours ago, JW Insider said:

There are plenty of ways that elders and sisters and children in the congregation can "take the lead."

Yes indeed.

But as mentioned in my earlier post, there are specific requirements for those serving as shepherds in the congregation (older men, overseers etc) for which there is a more exacting role with a more stringent criteria and a higher accountabilty. (James 3:1) They are leaders in a particular sense, with delegated responsibilities for which they are enabled and empowered. 

12 hours ago, Jesus.defender said:

more in the spirit of 1Cor.13:4!

Oh dear silly billy! Sorry about the typo here. I meant Gen.32:3, or Jg.13:22 of course. I was dealing with another post at the same time.

11 hours ago, Jesus.defender said:

you are a fool to say "no one" as you dont KNOW everyone.

Come now. Don't get testy....You know there is as much proof of the trinity as there is for...........abiogenesis!

4 hours ago, JW Insider said:

look to follow good examples of older men and others

Yes I agree with the many valid points you have made in connection with the necessity to avoid the leadership approach Jesus condemned. 

But on the specfic leadership assignment designated at Heb.13:17 which is also cross referenced to 1Tim.5:17, I would see a much more clearly defined role than that of "older men and others" which seems to be an extension of "in showing honor to one another take the lead" Rom 12:10.,When Paul called the older men of Ephesus together, (Acts 20:17-35), he highlighted a specific area of their responsibilities in v28 that neatly chains in to 1Tim 5:17 and back to Heb.13:17.

5 hours ago, JW Insider said:

This is not the way among YOU

This is not talking about leadership, but is talking about leadership style. Jesus style of leadership is part of the model he has left for his followers. This includes enablement and empowerment.

1 hour ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

Think about it!

Each to his own!