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    Evacuated got a reaction from Space Merchant in Refusal of blood transfusions key to deaths of 2 Jehovah's Witnesses, coroner finds   
    Very sad report and we can only imagine how difficult this must all be for the surviving families.
    This statement is rather misleading in that  a "free" and "informed" decision on a matter does not sit well with the notion of that matter being something which is arbitrarily "forbidden under Jehovah's Witness doctrine". 
    Also, whilst the coroner correctly highlights the difficullty faced by physicians in balancing the will of a patient against their subjective medical assessment of the result, it surely is not the case that the medical oath to protect and save human life is one that must be fulfilled "at all costs"? Otherwise, how could abortion (apparently prohibited by the Hippocratic oath) be permitted? Seemingly running at about 100,000 per year in Canada, this would surely generate significant coroner input if unlawful. And yet, the outrage seems disproportionate.
    Once again, media and honesty publicly demonstrate their estrangement.
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    Evacuated got a reaction from Anna in Watchtower pays $4000 per day for disobeying Secular Authority   
    This is just a generally stated, and basically irrelevant, opinion. 
    The repentant, murderous, adulterer, David, was still the anointed of Jehovah through his difficulties, and, despite his error, was still spoken of by Jehovah as having a complete heart. 1 Ki.11:4. As a result, he was not abandoned by Jehovah.
    This principle holds good at all times for individual servants of Jehovah, and in any endeavour they might seek to engage in collectively at the direction of that same God, Jehovah.
    Their united and prophetic declaration of intent is still as worded by Micah:
    "For all the peoples will walk, each in the name of its god, but we will walk in the name of Jehovah our God forever and ever." Mic.4:5
    This joint declaration is reinforced by their individual determination as described in the words of Habbakuk:
    "But I quietly wait for the day of distress, for it is coming upon the people who attack us. Although the fig tree may not blossom, and there may be no fruit on the vines; although the olive crop may fail, and the fields may produce no food; although the flock may disappear from the pen, and there may be no cattle in the stalls; yet, as for me, I will exult in Jehovah; I will be joyful in the God of my salvation" Hab. 3:16-18.
    Individually and collectively, all those who serve Jehovah in the manner described above can expect to be treated "In harmony with the expressions of loyal love to David, which are faithful." Is.55:3.
    This is an amplified answer to your question raised  @Noble Berean,
    And I think it could also be said, in summary, that although Jehovah's servants can make mistakes, Jehovah God may not remove his backing, as long as they respond to His disciplene and correction (as experienced by David).
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    Evacuated got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in Watchtower pays $4000 per day for disobeying Secular Authority   
    Can't see a problem with being proud of one's faithfulness to God's requirements and of success in fulfilling his commission? 
    Jer 9:24: "“But let the one boasting boast about this:That he has insight and knowledge of me, that I am Jehovah, the One showing loyal love, justice, and righteousness in the earth,"
    2 Cor 7:4: "I have great freeness of speech toward you. I have great boasting in regard to you. I am filled with comfort; I am overflowing with joy in all our affliction."
    etc...etc...
    Do you believe you are backed by God Almighty?
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    Evacuated reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in What is a Christian Man's MORAL responsibility to protect his own life, or that of his immediate or spiritual family?   
    PERFECT for home defense .... hear a noise downstairs?
    Roll a nuke down.
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    Evacuated reacted to Bible Speaks in Belarusian Press on Jehovahs Witnesses and Inside their Kingdom Halls   
    Belarusian Press on Jehovahs Witnesses and Inside their Kingdom Halls
    https://www.svaboda.org/a/repartazh-sa-shodu-svedkau-egovy/28851769.html


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    Evacuated got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in Watchtower pays $4000 per day for disobeying Secular Authority   
    Whatever the courts say is proved. If crimes are committed, they will be uncovered. Where's your faith?
    Published on this forum wasn't it?
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    Evacuated reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in What is a Christian Man's MORAL responsibility to protect his own life, or that of his immediate or spiritual family?   
    ..... Well ... I would rather be Wally than the PHB any day .....
    You answered your own question PHB...er... I mean, TTH.


     
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    Evacuated got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in Watchtower pays $4000 per day for disobeying Secular Authority   
    Let the courts decide.
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    Evacuated got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in Watchtower pays $4000 per day for disobeying Secular Authority   
    Have they paid?
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    Evacuated reacted to Anna in Shunning, sinners and excommunication in JW congregations   
    But only if they have not committed the unforgivable sin. And we don't know who has a who hasn't. That's why I mentioned that if someone returns, that in itself an indication that they have NOT committed the unforgivable sin.
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    Evacuated reacted to Anna in Shunning, sinners and excommunication in JW congregations   
    Yes, that's what I was trying to say
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    Evacuated got a reaction from Anna in Shunning, sinners and excommunication in JW congregations   
    Yes to the video. The brother was recovered from an apostate course. I am just saying that while the "unforgivable sin" is necessarily accompanied by apostasy, however it is defined, it does not follow that all apostates have committed the "unforgivable sin".
    In other words, those who apostatize can repent and turn around and experience forgiveness from Jehovah. The record of the Kings demonstrates this. In fact, the return of Solomon (who, as far as the record indicates, died in apostasy) in the resurrection of the unrighteous is a prime example (1Ki.11:43; Acts 24:15), whilst Mannaseh provides a second witness (2Chr.33:13; 20). 
    Wilfullness and unrepentance seem to be key characterisics of the "unforgiveable sin". Of course, the determination of those factors lies in the hands of the "Judge of all the earth" and those whom He has commissioned and empowered to judge.
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    Evacuated got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Shunning, sinners and excommunication in JW congregations   
    So (my adjustment) would you say that this describes what you have done?
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    Evacuated got a reaction from Noble Berean in Is this legit? Is there a kingdom hall/assembly hall in Helsinki, Denmark shaped like the Eye of Providence (Illuminati)? Perhaps our Denmark brothers/sisters could chip in...   
    Yes indeed. It's like that face the Incas carved into the mountain back of Machu picchu. What were they up to???

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    Evacuated got a reaction from Nana Fofana in Shunning, sinners and excommunication in JW congregations   
    Yes to the video. The brother was recovered from an apostate course. I am just saying that while the "unforgivable sin" is necessarily accompanied by apostasy, however it is defined, it does not follow that all apostates have committed the "unforgivable sin".
    In other words, those who apostatize can repent and turn around and experience forgiveness from Jehovah. The record of the Kings demonstrates this. In fact, the return of Solomon (who, as far as the record indicates, died in apostasy) in the resurrection of the unrighteous is a prime example (1Ki.11:43; Acts 24:15), whilst Mannaseh provides a second witness (2Chr.33:13; 20). 
    Wilfullness and unrepentance seem to be key characterisics of the "unforgiveable sin". Of course, the determination of those factors lies in the hands of the "Judge of all the earth" and those whom He has commissioned and empowered to judge.
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    Evacuated got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Shunning, sinners and excommunication in JW congregations   
    I think you misunderstand my use of the term "witness".
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    Evacuated got a reaction from Nana Fofana in Is this legit? Is there a kingdom hall/assembly hall in Helsinki, Denmark shaped like the Eye of Providence (Illuminati)? Perhaps our Denmark brothers/sisters could chip in...   
    Yes indeed. It's like that face the Incas carved into the mountain back of Machu picchu. What were they up to???

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    Evacuated got a reaction from Bible Speaks in If Babylon fell in one Night, can it be the same for this wicked world? –?????   
    The time of judgement will seem fast when it starts because it will be fast, Jehovah never drags out His executive action. He is not vindictive, even in judgement, is He?
    As for the time left until then? As it is reduced (1Cor.7:29), and reduces every time we think about it,  then of course less time remains each moment that we live.
    But Jehovah does not speed up the time left until the "great tribulation". He is actually patient with us, because He does not desire any to be destroyed (2Pet.3:9). So the more time left, the more time we have to help others to "repentance". But, for them, there is less time left for them to develop a strong faith in preparation for the future events. That is when Jehovah can intervene to speed up the numbers hauled in from this old system (Is. 60:22), and to speed up their development to the level of maturity they need (1Cor 3:6). And then, after we all have endured, He can finish our training (1Pet.5:10).
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    Evacuated got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Shunning, sinners and excommunication in JW congregations   
    Oh, I thought you would provide some examples from scripture.
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    Evacuated got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in "Nourishing Spiritual Food"?   
    You know, some might feel that this gives the NWT an edge, particularly when one uses other translations for comparative study. Koelher and Baumgartner link apostasy with the word used here.
    I think the word "apostate" fits quite well with the activity described in the proverb in following the example of the arch-apostate. I mean apostates are godless, hypocritical feigners, particularly those who want to impart their ideas to others as "enlightenment" wouldn't you say?
    Actually, I rather like the reference in Mclintock and Strong regarding this one: "soiled (i.e. with sin), impious:-hypocrite"
    Now, would that be ordinary or extra-ordinary sin?
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    Evacuated got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in "Nourishing Spiritual Food"?   
    Some were. I was there in 1975 and I was not looking to a date. That was because some were not. So I can't see an issue of any significance any more than expectation postponed makes the heart sick. Were you there? Did you attach too much to human chronological speculation at the time?
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    Evacuated got a reaction from Anna in A VITAL MESSAGE OF IMMEDIATE CONCERN – ​?????   
    Just found a collection of old, neglected and about to be thrown out books! Now rescued and re-homed with an appreciative, caring owner!

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    Evacuated got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Shunning, sinners and excommunication in JW congregations   
    There is an interesting (seeming) paradox here.
    Those who do sin against God's spirit are unlikely to think they have. Those who do not sin against God's spirit often think they have.
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    Evacuated got a reaction from Nana Fofana in "Nourishing Spiritual Food"?   
    I was ...and they didn't.
    I sure they would have welcomed it if it had come as they would have, and probably still do, felt like Paul who said:
    "Now if I am to live on in the flesh, this is a fruitage of my work; yet what I would choose, I do not make known. I am torn between these two things, for I do desire the releasing and the being with Christ, which is, to be sure, far better. However, it is more necessary for me to remain in the flesh for your sakes." Ph 1:22-24
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