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    Evacuated got a reaction from JW Insider in 1290 and 1335 days   
    SCHHHHHhhhhhhh!!!

     
     
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    Evacuated got a reaction from Anna in 1290 and 1335 days   
    Sensible comment this. But probably not unanimously applauded. I would say though, still necessary, even at this late date.
    Once these time periods are properly understood, I have a feeling there will be no ambiguity at all, and a lot of people will be saying "There. I always said it was something like that!".
    That time isn't now however............ 
    But, don't know about you, but these are issues that are SOOOO not a reason to have shaky faith over. And what is all this about:  
    ???? What on earth for????
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    Evacuated got a reaction from JW Insider in 1290 and 1335 days   
    Sensible comment this. But probably not unanimously applauded. I would say though, still necessary, even at this late date.
    Once these time periods are properly understood, I have a feeling there will be no ambiguity at all, and a lot of people will be saying "There. I always said it was something like that!".
    That time isn't now however............ 
    But, don't know about you, but these are issues that are SOOOO not a reason to have shaky faith over. And what is all this about:  
    ???? What on earth for????
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    Evacuated reacted to JW Insider in 1290 and 1335 days   
    Just another note. An older publication of ours (One World Government - God's Kingdom) from 1977, attempted to put exact days (Month, Day, Year) on each of these time periods, but the inconsistent lengths never made sense to anyone because none of them matched, often being more than a month off, and beginning and ending at times when there was no event to pin it to.
    Here's an example:
    Beginning date:
    *** go chap. 8 p. 131 par. 23 Marked Days During the “Time of the End” ***
    This they accomplished by the end of the foretold three and a half years on June 21, 1918. Thus this period began on December 28, 1914, in the first northern winter of World War I. End date:
    *** go chap. 8 p. 140 par. 43 Marked Days During the “Time of the End” ***
    September 14, or, Elul 21, 1922, Bible calendar time, when would the 1,335 days end? As the 1,290 days amounted to three lunar years and seven months, so the 1,335 days would amount to three lunar years, eight months and fifteen days. Counting now from Elul 21 (or, September 14), 1922, we find that three lunar years from that date would end on Elul 20 (or, September 9), 1925. To this we add eight lunar months and fifteen days and arrive at the date Sivan 6 (or, May 19), 1926. Seemingly referring to this same book which was under discussion at a dinner table at Bethel in the summer of 1977, Brother Sydlik said we ought to just scrap our entire chronology and start from scratch. There was an embarrassing amount of discussion about how the math didn't work out on any of these time periods.
    But more importantly, overall the entire period of these 1260, 1290 and 1335 days from about December 28, 1914 to May 19, 1926 is a total of 4,160 days. If we were to add 1260+1290+1335 they total 3,885 days. So there are obvious gaps between the time periods, too.
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    Evacuated got a reaction from JW Insider in Why do we understand the "prince of Persia" in Daniel 10:13 to be a wicked angel/Demon?   
    Well one reason would be the scrripture at Dan. 10:20-21 (You quoted partially.) The angel speaking here mentions the princes of Persia and Greece in the same breath as Michael "your prince". (the prince mentioned at Dan. 12:1). The context itself indicates to me that these "princes" are all spirit creatures and the angel speaking these words provides an insight on what is going on "behind the scenes" as it were.  Isn't that reasonable? 
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    Evacuated got a reaction from James Thomas Rook Jr. in Why does Jehovah God forbid tattoos?   
    @AllenSmith. Sorry, can't quote you. It's just too lengthy to dissect!
    You are rattled, and, as you loose your command of language when that happens, I just do not really follow the syntax of your 90 word sentence. Take a step back and chill out, mate, and maybe some sense, which you are quite capable, of will ensue. 
    Meanwhile, stop mixing the media with the message. An idol can be portrayed in any media but this does not taint the media itself necessarily, although the media itself can be idolised. 
    And just keep your insulting rhetoric to either yourself, or those who want to lock horns with you on obscurity. I much prefer it when you reason clearly, which you do on occasion. 
    If you are prepared to engage sensibly I will respond. Otherwise, don't waste your breath and bandwidth.
     
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    Evacuated got a reaction from Noble Berean in 1290 and 1335 days   
    Oh dear.....................Let's just wait and see eh?
    Why don't you go to work on what this scripture means: 
    "For the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will not do a thing unless he has revealed his confidential matter to his servants the prophets" Amos 3:7
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    Evacuated reacted to TrueTomHarley in IS THERE PREPARING THE THIRD WORLD WAR?......   
    There was another in Bethel with same first and last name. I know him. He married at Bethel. We later sent him an anniversary card and the GB Barr answered! He wrote a few chatty paragraphs saying where he had been lately. 'Boy he sure gets around for being just a year at Bethel,' I said to my wife. The wives names didn't match, but I figured maybe the name I knew was a nickname. It took a few minutes to figure it out.
    Imagine - a GB member writing a few chatty paragraphs to someone he does not know but doesn't want to ignore. These are not proud brothers.
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    Evacuated got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in UZBEKISTAN: Book banning, censorship, illegal fines, reprisals   
    ????
    Persecution is a feature of the age, and is indeed a feature of man's inhumanity to man. Ecc. 4:1 "Again I turned my attention to all the acts of oppression that go on under the sun. I saw the tears of the oppressed, and there was no one to comfort them. And their oppressors had the power, and there was no one to comfort them" 
    Jehovah's Witnesses are persecuted for carrying out the will of Jehovah, nothing else. Other groups (not just religious) are persecuted for any reason you care to mention., often simply because they are minorities.
    Please "engage brain before engaging keyboard". (Don't know who said that).
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    Evacuated reacted to Rosalie Barry in Jehovah’s Witness Detained in Tajikistan for Objecting to Military Service   
    May Jehovah help this young brother who is so faithful to not fight or take up arms. Let us pray for all such ones to remain loyal
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    Evacuated reacted to Julie Bayley in 'Peace and Security'   
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    Evacuated got a reaction from Bible Speaks in Benny Golson is also one of our spiritual Brother´s   
    Aside from the slightly negative review above, Benny Golson is in the 2004 Tom Hanks movie, The Terminal. It is a heart warming story and a chance to see a real jazz legend, who is also one of our brothers. The story has a focus on getting his signature on a wonderful photo. If you haven't seen the movie yet...don't miss it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Great_Day_in_Harlem_(photograph)
    (L - R) Hilton Jefferson, Benny Golson*, Art Farmer, Wilbur Ware, Art Blakey, Chubby Jackson, Johnny Griffin, Dickie Wells, Buck Clayton, Taft Jordan, Zutty Singleton, Red Allen, Tyree Glenn, Miff Molo, Sonny Greer, Jay C. Higginbotham, Jimmy Jones, Charles Mingus, Jo Jones, Gene Krupa, Max Kaminsky, George Wettling, Bud Freeman, Pee Wee Russell, Ernie Wilkins, Buster Bailey, Osie Johnson, Gigi Gryce, Hank Jones, Eddie Locke, Horace Silver, Luckey Roberts, Maxine Sullivan, Jimmy Rushing, Joe Thomas, Scoville Browne, Stuff Smith, Bill Crump, Coleman Hawkins, Rudy Powell, Oscar Pettiford, Sahib Shihab, Marian McPartland, Sonny Rollins*, Lawrence Brown, Mary Lou Williams, Emmett Berry, Thelonius Monk, Vic Dickenson, Milt Hinton, Lester Young, Rex Stewart, J.C. Heard, Gerry Mulligan, Roy Eldgridge, Dizzy Gillespie and Count Basie curbside. (*still living today)

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    Evacuated got a reaction from JW Insider in Benny Golson is also one of our spiritual Brother´s   
    Aside from the slightly negative review above, Benny Golson is in the 2004 Tom Hanks movie, The Terminal. It is a heart warming story and a chance to see a real jazz legend, who is also one of our brothers. The story has a focus on getting his signature on a wonderful photo. If you haven't seen the movie yet...don't miss it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Great_Day_in_Harlem_(photograph)
    (L - R) Hilton Jefferson, Benny Golson*, Art Farmer, Wilbur Ware, Art Blakey, Chubby Jackson, Johnny Griffin, Dickie Wells, Buck Clayton, Taft Jordan, Zutty Singleton, Red Allen, Tyree Glenn, Miff Molo, Sonny Greer, Jay C. Higginbotham, Jimmy Jones, Charles Mingus, Jo Jones, Gene Krupa, Max Kaminsky, George Wettling, Bud Freeman, Pee Wee Russell, Ernie Wilkins, Buster Bailey, Osie Johnson, Gigi Gryce, Hank Jones, Eddie Locke, Horace Silver, Luckey Roberts, Maxine Sullivan, Jimmy Rushing, Joe Thomas, Scoville Browne, Stuff Smith, Bill Crump, Coleman Hawkins, Rudy Powell, Oscar Pettiford, Sahib Shihab, Marian McPartland, Sonny Rollins*, Lawrence Brown, Mary Lou Williams, Emmett Berry, Thelonius Monk, Vic Dickenson, Milt Hinton, Lester Young, Rex Stewart, J.C. Heard, Gerry Mulligan, Roy Eldgridge, Dizzy Gillespie and Count Basie curbside. (*still living today)

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    Evacuated got a reaction from JW Insider in The Holy Spirit   
    Certainly. The links are included for further context.

    http://www.vatican.va/jubilee_2000/magazine/documents/ju_mag_01021998_p-24_en.html

    https://bible.org/seriespage/1-holy-spirit-hebrew-bible-and-its-connections-new-testament
    I see Jeremiah's words as inspired as I do those recorded in 1Kings 8:27, and with no contradiction.
    Of course it is. In a metaphorical sense.
    Still do. Is there a language issue here?
    erudite: learned, scholarly, well educated, knowledgeable, well read, widely read, well versed, well informed, lettered, cultured, cultivated, civilized, intellectual.
    articulate: eloquent, fluent, communicative, effective, persuasive, coherent, lucid, vivid, expressive.
    Doesn't mean I have to agree with his opinion on everything though does it? I mean, I think you are articulate and erudite in your field and in expressing your opinons, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with everything you say.
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    Evacuated got a reaction from JW Insider in The Holy Spirit   
    Complicated question but:
    v 23: Jehovah can draw near to those who draw near to him according to James 4:8. "Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you." No geographical location change is required for this. So in the words of Jeremiah 23:23: "Am I a God from near," I understand this in the sense of Hebrews 4:13 "And no creature is hidden in the sight of him, but all things are naked and laid bare to the eyes of him to whom we must give our account" or Act 17:27 "And indeed he is not far away from each one of us".
    v24: Men hide both literally and figuratively from accountability before God. Literally, as did Adam and Eve "And the man* and his wife hid themselves" (Gen 3:8) and figuratively  "The wealth of the rich is ⌊his strong city⌋,* and like a wall, it is high in his imagination." (Pro.18:11). So I would say it refers to any kind of hiding on the part of those to whom these words are addressed.
    As regards Jehovahs geographical location in such a matter, I understand this to describe figuratively what Paul mentioned at Hebrews 4:13 above, there is no place in all of creaion that is out of Jehovah's reach. As Solomon said at 1Kings 8:43 of the prayer of a foreigner: "you shall hear in heaven, the place of your dwelling, and act according to all that the foreigner calls to you".
    Entirely agree. I think the problem is the rather absolute connotation you attach to these words. 
    But my point is that whilst communicating their meaning clearly, articulate expression of opinions does not require that the hearer agrees with that meaning. He may understand completely that person's position, but not agree with their opinion, no matter how clearly expressed.
    We have to remember that, unlike Jehovah whose sayings are clarified "seven times", in the words of men there does not fail to be error. So as stated earlier, the absence of Mr Ellicott allows no room for discussion on his understandings, therefore no possibility of further clarifiication or adjustment to his ideas which remain, for me, expressed in an "erudite and articulate" manner, whether I agree with them or not.
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    Evacuated got a reaction from JW Insider in Blood transfusion refusals – why new guidelines aren’t up to scratch   
    Do you think a little more detail in writing would be prudent in case you are not conscious????
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    Evacuated got a reaction from Queen Esther in I just love our simple Kingdom Halls - around the world... I post step by step ;-))   
    I love seeing these pictures of kingdom halls @Queen Esther. Please keep them coming.
    It makes me see how wise the current arrangement of worldwide funding is, so that brothers everywhere can meet in buildings that appropriately reflect Jehovah's name in their community. The "equalising" of resources just in that area alone is a foretaste of how all the resources of this earth will be fairly shared in Jehovah's new world.
    (Psalm 72:11-13) "All the kings will bow down before him, and all the nations will serve him. For he will rescue the poor who cry for help, also the lowly one and whoever has no helper. He will have pity on the lowly and the poor, And the lives of the poor he will save."
     
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    Evacuated reacted to JW Insider in Why doesn't the Society translate and provide the Russian Court Transcripts for us?   
    @Gone Fishing I guess if you're Bent-on dowsing, and you get the "ley" of the land, then that's the place to go.
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    Evacuated got a reaction from John Houston in I just love our simple Kingdom Halls - around the world... I post step by step ;-))   
    I love seeing these pictures of kingdom halls @Queen Esther. Please keep them coming.
    It makes me see how wise the current arrangement of worldwide funding is, so that brothers everywhere can meet in buildings that appropriately reflect Jehovah's name in their community. The "equalising" of resources just in that area alone is a foretaste of how all the resources of this earth will be fairly shared in Jehovah's new world.
    (Psalm 72:11-13) "All the kings will bow down before him, and all the nations will serve him. For he will rescue the poor who cry for help, also the lowly one and whoever has no helper. He will have pity on the lowly and the poor, And the lives of the poor he will save."
     
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    Evacuated got a reaction from Queen Esther in Jehovah's Witness Man With a Beard.   
    No problem where I live
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    Evacuated got a reaction from Space Merchant in Why do we understand the "prince of Persia" in Daniel 10:13 to be a wicked angel/Demon?   
    Well one reason would be the scrripture at Dan. 10:20-21 (You quoted partially.) The angel speaking here mentions the princes of Persia and Greece in the same breath as Michael "your prince". (the prince mentioned at Dan. 12:1). The context itself indicates to me that these "princes" are all spirit creatures and the angel speaking these words provides an insight on what is going on "behind the scenes" as it were.  Isn't that reasonable? 
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    Evacuated got a reaction from Anna in Timeline of the 'Light Getting Brighter'   
    I agree with @Anna on this, here but slightly reworded. The Bible is indeed "clear cut" and "no progression" is needed:
    Psalm 12:6: "The sayings of Jehovah are pure; they are like silver refined in an earthen furnace, purified seven times."
    Man's understanding of the Bible, however, is not clear cut and does need progression.
    Men need the right attitude: 
    Ps 25:4 "Make me know your ways, O Jehovah; teach me your paths." Men need permission:
    Matt 13:11 “To you it is granted to understand the sacred secrets of the Kingdom of the heavens, but to them it is not granted." Men need God's holy spirit:
    John 16:13 "However, when that one comes, the spirit of the truth, he will guide you into all the truth" Men need to learn progressively:
    John 16:12 "“I still have many things to say to you, but you are not able to bear them now." Men need help from other faithful servants:
    Acts 18:24-26 "A·polʹlos...was an eloquent man who was well-versed in the Scriptures..... had been instructed....... was speaking and teaching accurately.... but ...Pris·cilʹla and Aqʹui·la....explained the way of God more accurately to him." Even with this, 
    Men still fall short:
    Heb. 5:11-12 "..you have become dull in your hearing. For although by now you should be teachers, you again need someone to teach you from the beginning the elementary things of the sacred pronouncements of God.." Men still go too far:
    1Cor 4:6 "learn the rule: “Do not go beyond the things that are written,” so that you may not be puffed up with pride, favoring one against the other." So, men need to maintain the right attitude: 
    Heb 12:5 "“My son, do not belittle the discipline from Jehovah, nor give up when you are corrected by him"
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    Evacuated reacted to Anna in Timeline of the 'Light Getting Brighter'   
    There are several actually. Here is one of them:
     
     
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    Evacuated reacted to Anna in Timeline of the 'Light Getting Brighter'   
    The problem is, it's not that clear cut is it? Or rather, our understanding of it isn't, our understanding is progressive, and that's the point. Just like understanding how the body functions was progressive for medicine (and still is).
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    Evacuated got a reaction from Anna in I'm spending this whole week at the British Museum. Any Questions?   
    You will cross paths with some of my cong then as they are on Bible related exhibit tours there this week also. Small world indeed!
    Any pre-1st Century ancient references to the Tetragrammaton would be interesting, Hebrew or otherwise, secular or sacred.
    Look forward to hearing about any other interesting findings.
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