James Thomas Rook Jr.

Words are the tools with which we think. 

If we use poorly crafted tools, we will have poorly crafted thinking.

Perhaps a better set of words would be "consecrate" and "un-consecrate".

1 hour ago, Srecko Sostar said:

This is good explanation :)))))  Than i have suggestion.

Ceremony of "dedication" building to God after Construction team  had finished job have to be done again but in reversible meaning.  After real estate agent made new contract, Congregants will be gathered  in KH for the last time "TO UNDEDICATE" buillding, bricks, roof, grass etc, especially if new buyer is someone from false religion church.  It would not be a good thing to remain even the smallest part of God’s blessing to a new owner.     :))))

I agree.

In the circa 1968 movie "Alice's Restaurant" Arlo Guthrie, a Hippie, goes to Stockbridge, Massachusetts to visit some old friends, and they have bought an old large church, possibly Presbyterian, and are going to turn it in to a free love and sex Hippie Commune, and the scene opens with a high angle shot of the inside of the church showing perhaps ten old congregants, and two  Presbyterian Clergy UN-DEDICATING the church and property in a ceremony, with the new owners, Alice and Ray, standing at the outside of the church, waiting for the un-consecration...

The movie also accurately represents the hippie movement in the United States during the time of the Vietnam War, and the movie was created to follow the real life experiences of Arlo Guthrie exactly as stated in his guitar 18 minute riff by the same name "Alice's Restaurant" (Alice's Restaurant Massacre).

The entire one hour and 51 minute movie is available on Youtube.  You may not be able to get it in your country, so I downloaded it, and pasted it HERE.  It's 400 MB, and this site says it has a 500 MB limit for uploads.

The part about the church un-consecration starts at 15:30  minutes.

My evil plan is almost complete .. ( squints eyes and rubs hand together as if putting on aloe vera lotion ...) . I have fakers accusing the regulars of being in control, meanwhile from behind the curtain, like a little grey mouse in the laboratory, I CONTROL THEM ALL!

BROUHAHAHAHAAAAAA !!

2 hours ago, divergenceKO said:

The worldwide Brotherhood has seen one of our own team removed after experiencing the communication between you and JWinsider. It is not a question of whom, but the legitimacy of this open forum that falls into question.

Who grants legitimacy?

You?

If the Governing Body can self appoint themselves as God's spokesmen ... which they have done ... who grants THEM legitimacy?

11 minutes ago, JW Insider said:

If you don't print claims in the publications that you (and those who appear to agree with you) have the spirit of the Old Testament prophets you will find that very few people will come up with this idea on their own.

As it turns out, of the twenty chickens my wife bought, 12 are roosters, and they fight all day, chasing all the hens around, and each other. I have an indoor chicken hospital for the injured.

I could really use a 175 pound old hen, to make them behave, but alas, the chickens cannot read, and know NOTHING about the Dewey Decimal System.

....... every time I drive on the Interstate, I am thankful Dinosaurs were not resurrected.

It is one thing to predict a climax of horror such a as mankind has never witnessed ... that could be an asteroid strike, global smallpox, or World War II ... of for those that don't get out much, having relatives show up looking for a place to live.

It is quite another thing to falsely predict with absolute certainty a resurrection of the dead, as Rutherford did ... and live in a house in San Diego with a complete staff laboring to get it perfect

Nevertheless, that mansion had not a fallout shelter ... but an actual BOMB shelter.

There is a difference.

43 minutes ago, Sean Migos said:

If we are not allowed to vote our conscience, what's the point with the emojis?

That is like saying insane paraplegics should be allowed to drive cars ... or why have cars?

2 hours ago, divergenceKO said:

It is an interesting read. Can you find the parallel on how people debate error with prophesy about the Watchtower, and yet Mr. Orwell made a predication in 1946, that no one seems to debate.

You can discuss a novel, such as 1984, but you cannot legitimately debate an "alternative history" novel.

Its FICTION, and everybody understands that it is fiction, and it does not represent itself to be anything BUT fiction.

It's the magnificent expression of new and important ideas that make "1984" a classic, which I read in High School a half century ago in Virginia, and all three of my children read in high school twelve years ago, in North Carolina high schools.

The 200 or so fictional representations by the WTB&TS that JW Insider mentioned above , as it turns out, were ALSO fiction, but they were represented, under penalty of social exile, to be the inspired Word of God from God's own self-appointed spokesmen.

There are people that still think all these things, once declared to be the understandings of Jehovah God .... now abandoned as complete fantasy made up out of NOTHING!, are true.

I would say "still true", but they were NEVER true, and the "grind my gears" red button for me is "Gog of Magog".  Being forever wrong about that one has consumed YEARS of people's lives learning, and re-learning, and re-learning great heaping steaming piles of utter nonsense, backed up by DOZENS of buzz word scriptures, now well known to have had NO value whatsoever to support the authors of the drivel.

The debates ongoing are not between the people that know the difference, and people that don't ... it's between the ideas that are right ... and the ideas that are wrong, which are embraced with loving arms.

To fully understand what has been going on, you need to read George Orwell's famous book "1984" and pay particular attention to the "new light" that the main character Winston Smith was charged with archiving.

It might even be a good idea to see the movie, also, which is not as good as the book, but it is a terrific movie.

The chilling conclusion to the book is a goal that most Witnesses have been taught to seek, to have peace in the Congregations, and harmonious unity of thought.

One of the most serious and heartbreaking paragraphs in all of human literature.

" He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother."

I have 18 chickens my wife bought, because as little biddies, they were so cute.

Sigh....

Thank you, Matthew, but I HAVE a Hobby Lobby.

Globally, this trend is taking place because of unrestricted Bovine access to firearms to defend themselves from wanton slaughter, and political alliances with other livestock with flying combat skills..

No one wants a a repeat of the famous Ohio Valley "Hamburger Wars", of 1958.

That tactic has worked for me for over a half-century.

Sometimes I get naked, pour honey all over myself, roll around in nuts and berries, and wear a Smokey the Bear hat, and walk in the deep woods, collecting plants for poison ivy salad.

Add that to eating lots of soap, aspirin and wearing an onion necklace, eating cottage cheese and never brushing, people will leave you alone.

Little is known about Bro. "Judge" Rutherford's small screen TV fetish, circa 1939, because back then there was only one channel, and you had to know Morse Code.

It's 2:30 AM Monday Morning 9-16-2019. and here's the news, CONFIRMING what I wrote 5 hours ago.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nyt-kavanaugh-bombshell-goes-bust-after-2020-dems-use-it-to-call-for-impeachment

The take-away line from the news article is this...

" The only first-hand statement concerning the supposed attack in the original piece, which was published on Saturday, came from a Clinton-connected lawyer who claimed to have witnessed it. "

...  that says it all..

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...and for those Brothers and Sisters that I have not already stumbled, and who have cast themselves into a fiery pit of outrageous indignation, here is a racist depiction of illegal aliens ......

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It's ALL about credibility.

It's a constant battle between WANTING to be obedient ... and not being an obvious moron.

Roughly the equivalent of not buying lunch at Churches Fried Chicken, for religious reasons.

Usually, in the USA,  it means after picking your nose, rolling the booger into a ball to dry it out, before flicking it away.

Apostates do not really need to destroy the GB's credibility ... the GB  does a comprehensive job of destroying their own credibility, with no help from anybody.

So, if I am a HVAC contractor, and a church calls me up to fix their furnace or air conditioner, I can't do it?

That is insanity on parade, and total nonsense.

It is also DANGEROUS, because that perspective warps minds.

OURS!

WE BUY CHURCHES, chop off the steeple and cross, and rededicate it as a Kingdom Hall.

I went to an OBVIOUS converted church-to-Kingdom-Hall, when I was a young boy, dropped a bag of marbles at the back, and they rolled all the way to the front, on a tile floor, in South Richmond, Virginia.

False religion got "our" money, for the sale.

We got the building.

I watched the ENTIRE Kavanaugh Confirmation Hearings with rapt attention.

I only believed 85% of his defense, and NONE of the Democrat blatant lies and evil false witnesses, and false accusations of every sort.

It's probably all on YouTube, if you want to see how people who 70 years ago were an important part of societal change have become, as a whole ... almost without exception ... blatantly and brazenly, and deliberately pure evil, in motivations, thoughts, and actions.

The Republican leadership are generally naive and incompetent, but the Democrat leadership are competent, studied evil.

What problem?