James Thomas Rook Jr.

Billy(Just Weasel)theKid46 .... your arrogance is only topped by your presumptuousness.

WOW! Wahahaat a concept!
1.) ... an Earthly Class ... those of the "other sheep".
2.) ... a Heavenly Class ... those of the Anointed.
3.) ... a Corporate Class ... Watchtower Lawyers and Accountants.
 

Come, come. Stop weaseling. This is not an answer. The question was: ‘‘How will you know when judgement is just a short way off yet?’
Planning to die real soon, are you?
If it is composed of anyone like the anointed ones of first-century Bible record, it will make some adjustments to changing times and circumstances. As soon as that happens, you will call them all liars. It is your pattern. There is no reason to think that would change.
You really don’t know how things work, do you?

I agree ... here in North Carolina we also have Drag Racing, and some people think it is deliberate torture to make them run with high heels.

Do you think it is wrong, then, for the brothers to do cart witnessing in this place with plenty of foot traffic?
What of when the friends call on people who are home but decline to answer the door? Do you think is wrong for the Witnesses to move on? Or should they be more proactive and knock on the door for an hour, if need be, until the householder answers?
Come, come. You are simply an enemy of Jehovah’s Witnesses and feel obliged to criticize everything they do. There is nothing wrong with the cart work.

It is possible that my “dream” could come true. 
The present tactic of enemies of Jehovah’s Witnesses is to portray the faith as composed of two classes—with the evil “corporate” class manipulating the ones “below.” Just as in a war, strategists might call for killing off the enemy generals, and thus “liberating” the enemy troups who are being evilly manipulated. 
Of course it is nonsense, just as it is nonsense in a literal war. It doesn’t occur to the presumptuous strategists that the “enemy” soldiers might actually believe in their cause. Or perhaps they know it full well, but they have just hit on a pious-sounding way—posing as the people’s liberator—-to bust up what they don’t like.
At any rate, one way to defuse this idiocy is to avoid any perception of the “corporate class” telling the underlings what to do. I believe this is happening now in Europe, where privacy laws enacted against data-collecting are being applied to Jehovah’s Witnesses. Don’t collect data, then, the Branch says, and they provide no direction as to how to do it.
Opponents celebrate the blow with which they have struck the Witnesses’ preaching work. If it was the work of men—the corporation “telling” members what to do—they would be right. But if the directive to preach the good news and make disciples of ones who respond favorably is from God (via the Bible), then members can be trusted to devise their own methods for carrying out the work that they believe is the Christian privilege and duty.
Maybe the same thing will happen someday with “counting time.” Alexander Dvorkin, the anti-cult ringleader in Russia, said that as far as he knew, Witnesses were required to report their activity to HQ each month—insinuating that it was for the purpose of updating a file kept on each member, instead of simply reporting the aggregate number that it actually is.  One way to counter such misrepresentation—whether it be deliberate of just through ignorance—might be to simply not tally the stats centrally. Forget all about counting time.
I wouldn’t be sad to see it go, if it did. There are goofy things about counting time. A major one from my point of view is that one can achieve far more productive results during evening witnesses than one can during the weekday, but nowhere near the number of hours. I think it serves to discourage witnessing during these more productive times. 
 
 

Josue2
You are obviously trying to share information which may be valuable.
How about I make a deal with you .... you write in English, and I will not reply in Klingon?
Otherwise, your efforts are completely wasted on anyone who does not speak French.
I spit and yell in Klingon.
..... both at the same time!

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...as an aside ....  Sir Isaac Newton knew that the core beliefs (not the 85% drivel) of Jehovah's Witnesses were correct, and could PROVE IT, just as we can ... hundreds of years before there was a Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.
HE WAS ONE OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES IN HIS CORE THEOLOGY!
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Sir Isaac Newton's FIRST love was theology ... and his minor obsessions were with physics, and math, etc.
Arguably the smartest natural man who has ever lived.
He hand wrote MILLIONS of words on theological subjects, and his collected religious works are now stored in the Hebrew National Museum, in Jerusalem.  OF COURSE I have not read them, but from three large biographies about his life, it seems safe to say this about him.
He never published ANYTHING without rigorous proofs, as he EXPECTED to be challenged on EVERYTHING.
To the best of my knowledge he was NEVER wrong ... even though he experimented with Alchemy extensively, as the science of Chemistry did not really exist back then ... and he did what he could with what was known at the time.
Even the WTB&TS alluded to the theory that he may have been one of the Anointed, and there is nothing I have ever read about him that would disprove that theory.
Without getting into a 20 page thesis, it seems his considered opinion was that Armageddon would occur in the year 2060, but perhaps as early as 2032.
Of course, it may occur in the next five minutes, as no one knows, or has ever known when the Great Day of Jehovah will start .... however ... I get that same feeling, looking at world events .... and Sir Isaac Newton was NEVER wrong (?), and about such things the Society (along with everybody else on Earth, for two millennia) ... have never been right.
If the Society had a "theology credibility credit rating" about ANY prophetic prediction they have ever made, with the big three predominate credit rating companies here in the United States: TransUnion, Experian, and Equifax ... what would their "theology credibility credit rating" be?
ZERO.
 
"In God We Trust"
... all others pay cash!
 

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...as an aside ....  Sir Isaac Newton knew that the core beliefs (not the 85% drivel) of Jehovah's Witnesses were correct, and could PROVE IT, just as we can ... hundreds of years before there was a Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.
HE WAS ONE OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES IN HIS CORE THEOLOGY!
========================================================
 

Sir Isaac Newton's FIRST love was theology ... and his minor obsessions were with physics, and math, etc.
Arguably the smartest natural man who has ever lived.
He hand wrote MILLIONS of words on theological subjects, and his collected religious works are now stored in the Hebrew National Museum, in Jerusalem.  OF COURSE I have not read them, but from three large biographies about his life, it seems safe to say this about him.
He never published ANYTHING without rigorous proofs, as he EXPECTED to be challenged on EVERYTHING.
To the best of my knowledge he was NEVER wrong ... even though he experimented with Alchemy extensively, as the science of Chemistry did not really exist back then ... and he did what he could with what was known at the time.
Even the WTB&TS alluded to the theory that he may have been one of the Anointed, and there is nothing I have ever read about him that would disprove that theory.
Without getting into a 20 page thesis, it seems his considered opinion was that Armageddon would occur in the year 2060, but perhaps as early as 2032.
Of course, it may occur in the next five minutes, as no one knows, or has ever known when the Great Day of Jehovah will start .... however ... I get that same feeling, looking at world events .... and Sir Isaac Newton was NEVER wrong (?), and about such things the Society (along with everybody else on Earth, for two millennia) ... have never been right.
If the Society had a "theology credibility credit rating" about ANY prophetic prediction they have ever made, with the big three predominate credit rating companies here in the United States: TransUnion, Experian, and Equifax ... what would their "theology credibility credit rating" be?
ZERO.
 
"In God We Trust"
... all others pay cash!
 

I was once told that I could not be a JW if I did not witness to others.  I would be a Jehovah's bystander . 

Could it be that "Foreigner", the voiceless phantom who has bad opinions about, and "downvotes" EVERYBODY .... except Billy(Just Weasel)theKid46 .... is a disembodied demon from Hell, or worse, a disembodied  Watchtower Lawyer resembling a protoplasmic giant hand, with the stump sitting in a chair, awkwardly manipulating a computer mouse?
It's just an idea I had, based on month's and months of evidence.  Nothing more ...
I would ask "Foreigner" to confirm or deny, but that might prevent Billy(Just Weasel)theKid46 from weighing in on this theory.
Perhaps Billy(Just Weasel)theKid46 has "Foreigner" wrapped up in duct tape, and it's the best he can do?
It's just an idea I had, based on month's and months of evidence.  Nothing more ...
 

Comparing two unequal education systems makes no sense at all.
It is a complex problem, as we have TRUTH, not available, anywhere else ... and that TRUTH, when not contaminated, represents freedom and life itself.
There is a difference between a compendium of facts, ideas and concepts in a school or universities'  science books, which cumulatively changes as more knowledge is acquired .... and someone who claims to represent God and righteousness, and supposedly getting it right as led by Holy Spirit.
What is taught in schools and universities can be continually tested to see if it is true.
The Bible is a FINISHED PRODUCT, but most can only be tested through the lens of common sense. 
Evey religion that has ever existed, or exists now,  has been and is seduced into abandoning common sense ... because of "Free Money".
Comparison of the two educational systems  is not valid.    They do NOT have the same basis.
When you speak with the authority of Jehovah God ... and you are right about 15% of the time, and make up stuff out of THIN AIR, and punish others for not believing as you do ... and you are flat WRONG 85% of the time ..... who then is the apostate?
Yes, I suppose prostitutes give more value for the money than  lawyers, most of the time, but that is not the point.
When you collect other people's money for "feel-good"  made up stories ( and there is quite a list, as we have discussed here for years...) you become, not a representative of the True God, but a professional story teller with a bloodied knife for those that don't like manufactured fantasy, for MONEY!
There is a very real and dramatic difference between being an apostate to the Christ, and the True God, Jehovah, and being an apostate to the clueless, opinionated, made up out of wishful thinking, arbitrary "flavor of the month".
"New Light", means you .... no matter WHO you are ....  are actually an apostate to what you believed and/or taught as Truth, last month.
If you are at the top of the hierarchy ... you get money, real estate, unlimited free labor, status,  and adulation. You NEVER go hungry, live in a dump, dress shabbily, or sleep cold.
If you are at the bottom of the hierarchy, you get the knife, and are ENCOURAGED to go hungry, live in a dump, dress shabbily, and sleep cold.
 

Could it be that "Foreigner", the voiceless phantom who has bad opinions about, and "downvotes" EVERYBODY .... except Billy(Just Weasel)theKid46 .... is a disembodied demon from Hell, or worse, a disembodied  Watchtower Lawyer resembling a protoplasmic giant hand, with the stump sitting in a chair, awkwardly manipulating a computer mouse?
It's just an idea I had, based on month's and months of evidence.  Nothing more ...
I would ask "Foreigner" to confirm or deny, but that might prevent Billy(Just Weasel)theKid46 from weighing in on this theory.
Perhaps Billy(Just Weasel)theKid46 has "Foreigner" wrapped up in duct tape, and it's the best he can do?
It's just an idea I had, based on month's and months of evidence.  Nothing more ...
 

Comparing two unequal education systems makes no sense at all.
It is a complex problem, as we have TRUTH, not available, anywhere else ... and that TRUTH, when not contaminated, represents freedom and life itself.
There is a difference between a compendium of facts, ideas and concepts in a school or universities'  science books, which cumulatively changes as more knowledge is acquired .... and someone who claims to represent God and righteousness, and supposedly getting it right as led by Holy Spirit.
What is taught in schools and universities can be continually tested to see if it is true.
The Bible is a FINISHED PRODUCT, but most can only be tested through the lens of common sense. 
Evey religion that has ever existed, or exists now,  has been and is seduced into abandoning common sense ... because of "Free Money".
Comparison of the two educational systems  is not valid.    They do NOT have the same basis.
When you speak with the authority of Jehovah God ... and you are right about 15% of the time, and make up stuff out of THIN AIR, and punish others for not believing as you do ... and you are flat WRONG 85% of the time ..... who then is the apostate?
Yes, I suppose prostitutes give more value for the money than  lawyers, most of the time, but that is not the point.
When you collect other people's money for "feel-good"  made up stories ( and there is quite a list, as we have discussed here for years...) you become, not a representative of the True God, but a professional story teller with a bloodied knife for those that don't like manufactured fantasy, for MONEY!
There is a very real and dramatic difference between being an apostate to the Christ, and the True God, Jehovah, and being an apostate to the clueless, opinionated, made up out of wishful thinking, arbitrary "flavor of the month".
"New Light", means you .... no matter WHO you are ....  are actually an apostate to what you believed and/or taught as Truth, last month.
If you are at the top of the hierarchy ... you get money, real estate, unlimited free labor, status,  and adulation. You NEVER go hungry, live in a dump, dress shabbily, or sleep cold.
If you are at the bottom of the hierarchy, you get the knife, and are ENCOURAGED to go hungry, live in a dump, dress shabbily, and sleep cold.
 

Sometime I fantasize about being a multi-millionaire, and being able to arrange my time to Pioneer ... but not only that ... but to put a full HUNDRED hours a month in the Field Service.
I would hire a pilot and aircraft to fly up and down Miami Beach, Florida , about 1/4 mile from the beach, towing behind a "JW.ORG" banner, with the Scripture "John 9:41", and watch it through my sunglasses.
..... the rough equivalent of a Brother standing beside his literature cart all day
I am reasonably sure that if I contributed  $30,000 a month to the local Kingdom Hall, as "Prince" did, not only could I "count my time" .... I would be a "Pillar" in the Organization.  AND, at the same time, get a nice tan!
 
....er ... "Pillar" .... NOT "Pillow".
 

Josue2
You are obviously trying to share information which may be valuable.
How about I make a deal with you .... you write in English, and I will not reply in Klingon?
Otherwise, your efforts are completely wasted on anyone who does not speak French.
I spit and yell in Klingon.
..... both at the same time!

Comparing two unequal education systems makes no sense at all.
It is a complex problem, as we have TRUTH, not available, anywhere else ... and that TRUTH, when not contaminated, represents freedom and life itself.
There is a difference between a compendium of facts, ideas and concepts in a school or universities'  science books, which cumulatively changes as more knowledge is acquired .... and someone who claims to represent God and righteousness, and supposedly getting it right as led by Holy Spirit.
What is taught in schools and universities can be continually tested to see if it is true.
The Bible is a FINISHED PRODUCT, but most can only be tested through the lens of common sense. 
Evey religion that has ever existed, or exists now,  has been and is seduced into abandoning common sense ... because of "Free Money".
Comparison of the two educational systems  is not valid.    They do NOT have the same basis.
When you speak with the authority of Jehovah God ... and you are right about 15% of the time, and make up stuff out of THIN AIR, and punish others for not believing as you do ... and you are flat WRONG 85% of the time ..... who then is the apostate?
Yes, I suppose prostitutes give more value for the money than  lawyers, most of the time, but that is not the point.
When you collect other people's money for "feel-good"  made up stories ( and there is quite a list, as we have discussed here for years...) you become, not a representative of the True God, but a professional story teller with a bloodied knife for those that don't like manufactured fantasy, for MONEY!
There is a very real and dramatic difference between being an apostate to the Christ, and the True God, Jehovah, and being an apostate to the clueless, opinionated, made up out of wishful thinking, arbitrary "flavor of the month".
"New Light", means you .... no matter WHO you are ....  are actually an apostate to what you believed and/or taught as Truth, last month.
If you are at the top of the hierarchy ... you get money, real estate, unlimited free labor, status,  and adulation. You NEVER go hungry, live in a dump, dress shabbily, or sleep cold.
If you are at the bottom of the hierarchy, you get the knife, and are ENCOURAGED to go hungry, live in a dump, dress shabbily, and sleep cold.
 

(Billy-Think logic) See?  Our educational system is not as bad as  .........SATAN'S !
( .... does a SNL Dana Carvey "Church Lady" dance ..... )
 
 

Like to ask, what is, according to you "standard education" in 140 year history of WT Society? What, how much  of those "standards" that people have to learned before to be called as suitable for "everlasting life", was been rejected and still now this same project/process continue despite all those big claims in the past and still now, how that all before and today is "God's Truth" ?? 
Please do not compare "worldly education system" that JW's think is based on satan manipulation, with "theocratic education system" that is based on GB uninspired errors or still perhaps - Inspired Errors  !!  

Just piping up here; I agree of course, but I'm sure you will admit that some sort of organizational structure is also necessary, especially with a view to the preaching activity...

You cannot have SELECTIVE application of that bloviating statement, Billy.
It's either universally true, or it is not true.
And i would say it applies even more so for the GB that say they are the 'Faithful and discreet slave' and have made it their business to control over 8 million people's lives. 
Anything i may say can be either agreed with or dismissed with no consequence to the person that agrees or disagrees.
Not so in the JW Org, whereby if a JW disagrees with the GB they can be disfellowshipped and lose everyone and everything they love.

It's quite clear from your words that they are INTENDED to apply only to your agenda.
If all four legged animals are horses ... then a cow must, by your logic, be a vegetable.
Your Billy-think is fully evidenced by calling JW Insider "?winsider",  and thinking his screen name is an affront against God.
Using that same logic, Jehovah's last name is .ORG.
 
 

Billy ... If JW Insider's Avatar and moniker is a stumbling block to you, and you think it taints the name of God, you have some serious screws loose.
It's amazing you can walk down the street without having parts fall off.