James Thomas Rook Jr.

YIKES!

Far too busy with the other institutions which must pose a far greater threat.

... and common sense, too.
( Which is becoming less and less common ...)
Agenda driven thinking ALWAYS does that.
ALWAYS.

... and common sense, too.
( Which is becoming less and less common ...)
Agenda driven thinking ALWAYS does that.
ALWAYS.

God made Adam.  He made Eve from Adam's rib.  
Must be a miracle. 

Where did Adam get his?

That's why he's called God's son God completed the rest of the DNA for him

All you said is true .. BUT ... all men are fallible, and even hardened combat soldiers  whose determination is to be steadfast, loyal, courageous, faithful and discreet  reach the limits of what they are ABLE to do ... and crumble and fall.
... been there ... done that.
Seen it many times in many places.
Not every conscientious soldier can be like the fictional John Rambo, and it is unrealistic to assume anything close to that.
That is why, while acknowledging all that has been talked about here in the last ten years, and more, is mostly true ... Justice requires OUR mercy and understanding when our "Drill Sergeants", and "Officer's Corps" get us and our friends killed because they were not as good at what they claimed to want to be.
Nobody is.  
Not You, Not me, not anybody.
My Uncle Bill was shot from behind in North Korea in the 1950's by his own men, and three 50 caliber machine gun bullets almost tore his left arm off, which was one massive scar.
Making weak, wimpy decisions based on fear of an endless list of things ... IS WHAT WE DO!
That is why I stick with Jehovah's Witnesses ... not because of the phony crap and self serving self aggrandizement of the leadership, that looks like a clown car that has run off the road and into a tree ... It's because the core Theology is TRUE ... and Jehovah really does have a Congregational Arrangement, and Jehovah's Witnesses , globally, "ARE THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN!"
FROM THE BOTTOM UP,  we have to show THEM mercy and understanding, even when they royally screw up.. (John 9:41).
Remember, Jehovah "tolerated" a whole dedicated nation of Jews, his "special possession", to get completely over run with pagan practices and dishonesty, before it finally reached a certain point, that "enough was enough!."
Justice must be tempered with mercy for blind guides who do not fight well when the enemy is engaged.
Everyone does what we know ... and nobody is good at everything.
A clumsy dentist is often better than no dentist., but ....
STUFF HAPPENS
(paraphrased)
 
 
 

If they are, they have "hidden" their intention up to now. They are investigating:
Cambridge House, Knowl View and Rochdale Children in Custodial Institutions Children Outside the UK Child Sexual Exploitation by Organised Networks Institutional Responses to Allegations Concerning Lord Janner Lambeth Council Nottinghamshire Councils Residential Schools The Anglican Church The Internet The Roman Catholic Church Westminster Where did you pick up that information? Where did they say they are going to do an investigation into the UK branch of JW's? The only mention of Jehohavah's Witnesses so far has been by Rod Jones, social worker for  Nottingham, who said he had to deal with cases involving Jehovah's Witnesses children and blood transfusions although there are no specific details.
 

Isn't an idol something you worship? Otherwise it's just sticks and stones in the shape of a man isn't it?
Or firewood:
"He plants a laurel tree, and the rain makes it grow. Then it becomes fuel for a man to make fires. He takes part of it to warm himself; He builds a fire and bakes bread. But he also makes a god and worships it. He makes it into a carved image, and he bows down before it. Half of it he burns up in a fire With that half he roasts the meat that he eats, and he is satisfied. He also warms himself and says: “Ah! I am warm as I watch the fire. But the rest of it he makes into a god, into his carved image. He bows down to it and worships it. He prays to it and says: “Save me, for you are my god.” They know nothing, they understand nothing,Because their eyes are sealed shut and they cannot see, And their heart has no insight.  No one reflects in his heart Or has knowledge or understanding, saying: “Half of it I burned up in a fire, And on its coals I baked bread and roasted meat to eat. Should I, then, make the rest of it into a detestable thing? Should I worship a block of wood from a tree?”” Isaiah 44: 15-19

All you said is true .. BUT ... all men are fallible, and even hardened combat soldiers  whose determination is to be steadfast, loyal, courageous, faithful and discreet  reach the limits of what they are ABLE to do ... and crumble and fall.
... been there ... done that.
Seen it many times in many places.
Not every conscientious soldier can be like the fictional John Rambo, and it is unrealistic to assume anything close to that.
That is why, while acknowledging all that has been talked about here in the last ten years, and more, is mostly true ... Justice requires OUR mercy and understanding when our "Drill Sergeants", and "Officer's Corps" get us and our friends killed because they were not as good at what they claimed to want to be.
Nobody is.  
Not You, Not me, not anybody.
My Uncle Bill was shot from behind in North Korea in the 1950's by his own men, and three 50 caliber machine gun bullets almost tore his left arm off, which was one massive scar.
Making weak, wimpy decisions based on fear of an endless list of things ... IS WHAT WE DO!
That is why I stick with Jehovah's Witnesses ... not because of the phony crap and self serving self aggrandizement of the leadership, that looks like a clown car that has run off the road and into a tree ... It's because the core Theology is TRUE ... and Jehovah really does have a Congregational Arrangement, and Jehovah's Witnesses , globally, "ARE THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN!"
FROM THE BOTTOM UP,  we have to show THEM mercy and understanding, even when they royally screw up.. (John 9:41).
Remember, Jehovah "tolerated" a whole dedicated nation of Jews, his "special possession", to get completely over run with pagan practices and dishonesty, before it finally reached a certain point, that "enough was enough!."
Justice must be tempered with mercy for blind guides who do not fight well when the enemy is engaged.
Everyone does what we know ... and nobody is good at everything.
A clumsy dentist is often better than no dentist., but ....
STUFF HAPPENS
(paraphrased)
 
 
 

the Watchtower hides things. When that is proven false 
Has it been proven false ?   
Then why did the GB / Legal dept refuse to hand over all of the twenty years worth of Child Abuse accusations in the USA ?
They didn't say those documents didn't exist, they just refused to hand them over. 
Now, whether they needed legally to hand those documents over or not, the point was proven that those documents existed. So that is hidden information. 
And didn't the Charity commision find things out on their investigation hee in the UK ? And didn't the UK branch/ hq/ bethel try to stop the Charity Commision from doing it's investigation ? So wasn't the UK bethel/hq trying to hide things ? 
And isn't the IICSA going to do an investigation into the UK branch of JW's ?  Why would they bother if they didn't think there were things being hidden ? 
And in other countries groups such as Reclaimed Voices are pushing for more investigations.
I think there is a lot more muck going to be dug out of the JW Org over this year. 
Too bad that you cannot see that the GB are not the 'faithful and discreet slave' that they pretend to be. 
They not only hide things from the public, they also hide things from the congregants. 
11.35pm. Good night from the pleasant countryside of Devon England  

Reducto Ad Absurdum my foot, you dolt!
Trump is a non-religious politician who says “Two Corinthians.”
The GB are brothers taking the lead who say “2 Corinthians.” 
It’s pretty much the equivalent of a church minister signing a parishioner’s Bible upon request.
It’s not the kind of thing that I would ever care to do. But the urge to obtain VIP/celebrity signatures appears to be hard-wired into the genome.
 
 

That cracked me up ...  with snarky criticism of alluding to recent (past few days) national news that Trump signed Bibles for various clergymen (which was heavily criticized in the "fake media" by those with severe TDS )  ... and then seeing the posting of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses signing Bibles for politicians.
I had seen that before, but I had completely forgotten about it.
Thanks TTH .... always good for  some  "reducto ad absurdum" humor at the oddest times.

Oh yes, I saw the news clip yesterday.  I mentioned this to my husband and relayed the past bible signing event by the GB.
 

Exactly!

Was that something about how Jesus gave life for sinners? And for His Friends too?
GB friends are JW members? Are they? But they "sold" them to Russian Government, and now they have Legal Battles about multi millions worth Real Estate that was Confiscated.
2 quotes from JWorg newsroom:
1) Court to Hear Appeal Against Russian Government Seizure of Witnesses’ National Office
2) Philip Brumley, General Counsel for Jehovah’s Witnesses, stated: “Jehovah’s Witnesses around the world are greatly disturbed by the harsh persecution of their fellow believers in Russia. Jehovah’s Witnesses are confronting the same type of repression today as they suffered under the Communist regime.
In 1) we see how WTinc.  is so worried about Material Things, because they are Owners.
In 2) we see nothing about JW Neutrality. Bro Brumley using POLITICAL ETIQUETTE when speaking about Legal Matters and JW members by - quote: Jehovah’s Witnesses are confronting the same type of repression today as they suffered under the Communist regime. How can be that one of top lawyer, in fact General Counsel for JW, who is elder, shepherd, believer, who supposed to be POLITICALLY NEUTRAL, using comparison of late political system with today political system. What COMMUNISM have with JW Church today? What Russia today have with JW Church? What USA have with JW Church? What every and any country with particular political ideology have with JW Church? 
JW Church and followers considers themselves as Separate Organization and Nation far away of any political way of expressions. Brumley's political standpoint in quote is far away of Jesus way how to deal with "politics" and secular governments. Brumley using Political Colors in aspiration to talking bad about Russian Government, Russian Courts, secular Russian People. WHO gave Brumley right to speak about political aspects in one country? Why Brumley using Communism Ideology as HIS EXPLANATION why WTJWorg have PROBLEMS in this country? Why he was not braver and picturing situation with Nazi Germany period of suppressing JW. Hitler has done terrible things to many people.     
Does Brumley consider USA and Western Democracies as Good political system? Because USA Courts not seized WTJWorg Real Estate.... yet.
And what when they do that? Would GB proclaim: Armageddon comes and we have to go to Heaven?

Sometimes ... MANY times ... Justice requires going above and BEYOND the law, without breaking it.
Taking the MORAL high ground often requires losing everything you own, and all your money and assets, and sometimes even your life, in a miserable and degraded manner, in abject and total poverty, as Jesus was the exemplar, and many of his Apostles and disciples  learned.
Remember the Assembly theme "Follow Jesus"?
How'se dat workin' out fer us?

EXACTLY:
Anything ... anything at all ....  that the Elders become aware of that is an actual crime ... as defined by the Secular Authorities ... should be reported to the appropriate  Secular Authorities.
That is the Law of GOD !
In a similar manner, we ALSO should not do our own dental work, and heart surgery.
Deciding for ourselves whether or not it is REQUIRED ... puts Caesar holding the moral high ground, and makes cowards out of us.
FOR MONEY.
We have a greater responsibility to God, the Brotherhood,  and the community we live in, than trying to preserve accumulated piles of money, and magnificent and valuable Real Estate.
We have World Centers in NY, and Embassies all over the world (Branch Offices).
In Cairo, Egypt, the Egyptians tried that with the Pyramids ...
... as they and their civilization turned to ruin and dust.
King Tut .... gave his life for Tourism!
 
Jesus did not even have a rented single room to sleep in, or even one suitcase with a change of clothes. 
Remember the Assembly theme "Follow Jesus"?
How'se dat workin' out fer us?
 

JW WORLD HEADQUARTERS RELOCATION ..mp4  
 

Sometimes ... MANY times ... Justice requires going above and BEYOND the law, without breaking it.
Taking the MORAL high ground often requires losing everything you own, and all your money and assets, and sometimes even your life, in a miserable and degraded manner, in abject and total poverty, as Jesus was the exemplar, and many of his Apostles and disciples  learned.
Remember the Assembly theme "Follow Jesus"?
How'se dat workin' out fer us?

Ok... maybe you @James Thomas Rook Jr...... the rest of us would be morsels....

Unfortunately for you, this will continue to happen, regardless until the end comes.
For the Bible says for God's people, who are following the Christ, to preach to the nation, and such ones reach the people of the nation in public spaces, including going to the homes of persons - Missionary work in regards to the gospel. The time of preaching, missionary works, ministry, knocking on doors, what have you, ends, that would be a time where tension and increased hysteria would happen, due to the preaching of the gospel would cease when the strong indications of the end time tribulations will come in full force.
Outside of Christianity, there is a community, mixed of religious and non-religious, who are actually preparing or already prepared for that. Elsewhere in the world, you have people who are over-the-top prepared for it, i.e. Svalbard Global Seed Vault.
Even children are ready in this regard, as of recent, an example of two young girls who survived in the wilderness of the woodlands, and so forth.
George Orwell would be the type to say I told you so, if he were alive at that point in time, and even present day.

???  I don't know those men, but i know You.  hehehe
Thanks for kind words, BUT what this have with "elders private thoughts on buying milk, going to pick up kid in school", or similar useless NOTES  inside/between other notes about Child molestation cases before Court or before WT elders?
If your elders making such useless notes in investigation or judicial process inside congregation, that would be of no help or benefit for victims,  maybe only for accused one.
When WT elders serves in parallel (illegal) juridical system inside One and Only Legal State Juridical System, that is the problem. It is not "problem" do i know more or less or nothing about US or EU laws.  
WT top lawyers in Warwick should, must know that detail. Elders in WTinc. which is in fact Private Entrepreneurship-Enterprise in the name of God, should to learn how their working specter inside The Church is about spiritual and doctrinal issues of members. Things that are Covered by Secular laws (in this topic that is sex abuse inside WT or any other institution) should be given to Secular authority to handle. 
 
 

I think BillytheKid46 was referring to "Ho Ho Ho Ho:  - -   - -  - -  - -  - - ", followed by "Bah!, Humbug!"

Excellent question !