James Thomas Rook Jr.

Collateral damage

Nice Scripture.
What does it have to do with the six drowned Brothers in this article?

You actually do not believe exactly the opposite. You believe exactly the same. (which worries me)
The junk science Ford rails at is the sort of science that is not funded by big business and government. It is the sort of science whose backers do all they can to discredit, even sending sending in an advocate of ‘The Force’

Since you don't believe the other story... try this one:
This is a perfect demonstration of conditional love.

As regards this specific prisoner being released .... what is a better solution?
I mean ... one that is legal.
How would YOU solve this SPECIFIC prisoner's situation?
The phrase "Going after the problem" is completely meaningless, without specifics.

Anybody who can walk 100 km a day, which is about 62 miles, carrying and picking up and delivering packages and mail (!!) is INCREDIBLE!
Drones are impressive, but THIS mailman is INCREDIBLE !
 

Is it later than I think?
I often think, as the Sun goes down, that it is really the horizon, coming up.
If I face away from the Sun and bend over, looking through my legs at the Sun, the Sun and the horizon  seem to be meeting in the middle.
Then I do a front flip, fall over, and consider it from another perspective.
Reality is what it is.

Jehovah expects us to take care and make wise decisions and not be foolhardy.  In rainy season we must pay attention to the weather and listen to government and weather announcements, etc. These things are provided by the superior authorities for our benefit.
They may have also been good and wise people but time and unforeseen occurrence befalls us all. The good work they did at the KH  and otherwise would be remembered by Jehovah forever. (Heb 6:10) (Romans 8:38,39)

Apparently, there is nothing worse than a Brother in tight pants.

Would you give your life for your errant brother?
 
What ... like in a hostage situation where "they" are going to shoot one, and I volunteer to take someones' place, so he might be spared?
I had a Brother in good standing ask me this, circa 1980.
Jeff Murphy, who we called "Murph the Surf", as we were driving to a large monthly Witness Yard  Party Gathering in Escondido, California many years ago asked me this.
  As we were driving from Hollywood to Escondido, his exact question was "Would you take a bullet for me Tom?"  He was surprised when I answered ... no.
I further explained that I would risk my life to save his, if there was a reasonable chance of success, but I would not deliberately step into a bullet to save his life.
He asked "Why not?"
I replied that I was reasonably assured what I was going to do with my life, and if I "took a bullet" for him, and he WASTED his life, then I would also have wasted mine.
I will defend any innocent person with my life, but I hope not to throw it away.
"Stuff Happens", like when the back-yard party gathering bar closed at 10PM, while I was making my acquaintance with a Sister on the other side of the back yard, and when I got back they had packed away my large bottle of Southern Comfort I had brought to the party.
I havn't seen Jeff in about 40 or more years, but I never saw my bottle of Southern Comfort again.
 
 

I can accept how faithful JW member "understood"  WT Policy in this issue.
But if dfd or dsd person are still in the "WT frames/chains of such understanding" then her/his mind are far from normal and healthy mental state. Because he/she dance on same music together with JW member who dictate his/your behavior in relation to him. And that is not good.
  

I had already knows this application with/to  Samaritan. My questions was  for those who forget what is answer :))
Thanks to you they hear now. It is better that this is heard from someone else here, not from me.   

General idea of going throughout personal inside trouble of mind and soul as cure is acceptable. General idea how society, people around such person, family or some group have role in this is also acceptable. General idea how some methods in this process are necessary, identical in approach, painful for all involved are also acceptable. 
But because every person is unique, and how similar stuff they going through is not the same stuff in everyone life, has specific details for every one in particular, people who "helping" need to adapt their approach and methods to each case in a special way.
WT scenario in video made "special effects", because The Company determined for each actor what to play and why he/she would have such words, feelings and thoughts and such reaction/interaction. In video case daughter, allegedly, need family surroundings and/or just parents voice "and this small dose will satisfy her"!!
What if she had been in need for more then a "small dose"?!. Some persons fall in desperation, is suicidal emotions. What if daughter made suicide after unanswered call?? Because this can be very real Life scenario that WT want to escape for manipulative reasons on convention's public. What would parents, and mother especially, who not want to respond on phone,  think of WT helping methods "for the greater and long term benefit of a person" after funeral of their daughter?? 

As Jesus said we should treat disfellowshipped ones as "man of the nations and as a tax collector", then I'l leave you to work out the conscientious application of the principles of his Good Samaritan parable in such a case.

AllenSmith34 said:
Are we overextending ourselves in this scenario? Are we talking about Someone's duty as a paid individual to help others? or is it FAITH based?
There are certain aspects of your post, that is expected for those that get paid to help.
If my memory served me, Jesus told how he lay life for his FRIENDS, the 12 (even Judas is in it).12 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.14 You are my friends if you do what I command. ("if you do what I command" ... sort of conditioned love?)
 
And now we shall go to Romans chapter 5;
6 You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. 7 Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous person, though for a good person someone might possibly dare to die.8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. ("while we still sinners" .....sort of not conditioned love!)
To continue; Did Jesus here "OVEREXTENDING" his scenario? He was not gave life ONLY for his 12 friends or some imagine future "Christian brothers". He gave life for all people. And inside all people exists all sorts of people - good, bad, sinners, righteous and unrighteous, JW, Catholic, Republicans, Democrats.... and whoever else.
Who have duty???.... Who have faith???....................NO, question is  Who have love? ------ FOR LAY DOWN OWN LIFE FOR YOUR?    
Please, what you have to correct in this??!!
Who is unfit in good deed for save your life from fire? Fireman?
:)) Allen, Allen

@Srecko Sostar I agree. Period.
I'd also add this situation mention in an old Awake magazine:
*** g81 10/22 p. 6 “I Survived the Sinking of the Titanic” *** “The last lifeboat was being loaded. A middle-aged gentleman was with his very young, pregnant wife. He helped her into the lifeboat, then looked back to the deck and saw others wanting to get aboard. He kissed his wife good-bye, and, returning to the deck, grabbed the first person in his path. Fortunately, I was there in the right place at the right time and he put me into the lifeboat. I screamed for my sister who had frozen from fright. With the help of others, she also was pushed into the lifeboat. Who was the gallant man who performed this kind act? We were told he was John Jacob Astor IV. At that time he was 45 years old and his wife, Madeleine, was 19. They were traveling to the United States because they wanted their child to be born there. Many newspaper stories were written that told how John Jacob Astor gave up his life for a young immigrant. 
  I personally consider this gentleman a lot better than me,  I'm quite sure I'd find some reasons to stay at the boat. And yes, this fine man wasn't a JW.
Regarding the video about the mother refusing answer her daugther call, what can I say? It's a shame. I also suppose that faithful servants of all times weren't always happy with the behavior of co-worshipers, not even the prominent ones.

You are a thinking person. I'm sure that spending time in prison for reasons of conscience or religion will do that to you. I don't believe that Jehovah will forget the good works of all persons and religious persuasions. And I'm not one who believes we as Witnesses are handling every possible Christian ministry in the world that helps attract persons to Christianity. We are Christians, and we try to be the best we know how to be. We handle a particular ministry of evangelizing and teaching spreading knowledge and appreciation of the Bible, and of doing good for one another, especially those related to us in the faith, and we look for others who will share our particular faith and hope (paradise earth, etc.). Others may handle some of the charitable ministries in a better way, we constantly try to improve our teaching ministry. This takes nothing away from Albert Barnes or Matthew Henry or Tyndale or Wycliffe etc, who were key players in the past, and I would not doubt that there are many  individuals who excel at Christian teaching today, too. As you know the Watchtower often quotes from scholars and experts in many fields, including history, theology and Biblical studies, manuscripts, ancient languages, etc. 
 

Thanks for asking ....
Here, near Charlotte, it was overcast today with no rain, and a 15 mph breeze.  Now, at approx. 12:30 AM Saturday, it's about the same, with no discernible wind noise.  Tomorrow it is an 85% chance of rain, with maximum 30 mph winds forecast. Sunday forecast is 30 mph and 100% chance of rain.
I bought 26 candles in  glass tubes, 5 square yellow flashlights,  24 cans of beans and 60, 2.5 gal. freezer bags to fill with water.and 45 cans of dog food ( for relatives if they have to come over ... so they will leave ASAP).
We live on a heavily wooded lot with very large trees, which I suppose will be the greatest danger, falling into the house, but we shall see.
In 1954 I was 6 years old when Hurricane Hazel tore through Richmond Virginia,  and I went out and tied myself to a tree with a garden hose, and watched roofs peel off and flop down the street.
It was fun!
.... my Mom was not pleased .
 
 
 

This brings up the VERY real question ... and very IMPORTANT question ...
Is it REALLY "love", when you can turn it completely on and off like a light switch?
My answer is NO!
You cannot as a human being do that, and be sane.

... at least with "worldly people", we don't cut our love on and off ... on and off ... on and off ... like a light switch  as we do with our own spiritual family as they get df'd and reinstated.
The "worldly people" seem to have the advantage!

True. That's when we prefer to invoke Galatians 6:10:
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1999442#h=1
Love Toward Those ‘Related in the Faith’
GENUINE Christians have a familylike bond among themselves. Indeed, since the first century C.E., they have referred to one another as “brother” and “sister.” (Mark 3:31-35; Philemon 1, 2) These are not just words; they constitute a description of how worshipers of God feel about one another. (Compare 1 John 4:7, 8.) Jesus said: “By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.”—John 13:35.
Such love was evident in July 1997 when a prolonged drought was followed by torrential rains and flooding in Chile. Suddenly, many were in need of food, clothing, and other items. In disaster situations, Jehovah’s Witnesses strive to follow Paul’s admonition to the Galatians: “Really, then, as long as we have time favorable for it, let us work what is good toward all, but especially toward those related to us in the faith.”—Galatians 6:10.

This is "The Truth" too :))

Thanks for asking ....
Here, near Charlotte, it was overcast today with no rain, and a 15 mph breeze.  Now, at approx. 12:30 AM Saturday, it's about the same, with no discernible wind noise.  Tomorrow it is an 85% chance of rain, with maximum 30 mph winds forecast. Sunday forecast is 30 mph and 100% chance of rain.
I bought 26 candles in  glass tubes, 5 square yellow flashlights,  24 cans of beans and 60, 2.5 gal. freezer bags to fill with water.and 45 cans of dog food ( for relatives if they have to come over ... so they will leave ASAP).
We live on a heavily wooded lot with very large trees, which I suppose will be the greatest danger, falling into the house, but we shall see.
In 1954 I was 6 years old when Hurricane Hazel tore through Richmond Virginia,  and I went out and tied myself to a tree with a garden hose, and watched roofs peel off and flop down the street.
It was fun!
.... my Mom was not pleased .
 
 
 

All of the above.
....and MORE.
Without irrefutable hard evidence ... NEVER assume a person's motive for ANYTHING.
If all else fails, and as a very last resort ... ask them.
 

Thanks for asking ....
Here, near Charlotte, it was overcast today with no rain, and a 15 mph breeze.  Now, at approx. 12:30 AM Saturday, it's about the same, with no discernible wind noise.  Tomorrow it is an 85% chance of rain, with maximum 30 mph winds forecast. Sunday forecast is 30 mph and 100% chance of rain.
I bought 26 candles in  glass tubes, 5 square yellow flashlights,  24 cans of beans and 60, 2.5 gal. freezer bags to fill with water.and 45 cans of dog food ( for relatives if they have to come over ... so they will leave ASAP).
We live on a heavily wooded lot with very large trees, which I suppose will be the greatest danger, falling into the house, but we shall see.
In 1954 I was 6 years old when Hurricane Hazel tore through Richmond Virginia,  and I went out and tied myself to a tree with a garden hose, and watched roofs peel off and flop down the street.
It was fun!
.... my Mom was not pleased .