James Thomas Rook Jr.

Arauna, and TTH :
It is a very simple, carefully crafted question to isolate one specific principle, from the full spectrum of high volume noise that surrounds this issue.
Most people think the Ten Commandments say "Thou shalt not kill." .... and it doesn't.
I says "Thou shalt not MURDER"
There is a very real difference between one, and the other ... just as there is a very real difference between your personal culpability if you accidentally hit a child on a bicycle while driving, and kill them .... and if you drive up onto the sidewalk, and deliberately kill the same child.
There are cases when killing IS ACCEPTABLE, should you choose to exercise your natural right of self defense, that all living things have as a natural right, and if you choose to do so, and are able to manage overcoming your adversary with deadly force ... there is absolutely no blood guilt incurred.  That is just one of perhaps several examples.
Understanding WHY one is allowable by God, and not the other ... is the KEY to understanding everything about the issue of blood guilt, or NO blood guilt, in every example that would come up in life.
It may remind you of a satanically inspired question where there is only a binary choice, like "Do you STILL beat your wife", but it is not.
My ex-mother-in-law may remind me of a Shrew, but she is not.
It is a question that when correctly answered, will give a complete understanding of our obligations toward God, what ever that might be, in a world where life and death is a daily concern.
There is a difference between KNOWING something ( which may be flat wrong) and UNDERSTANDING something, and it all depends on being able to correctly discern the actual, really true answer the question about any subject you could put forward, and that is ....
WHY?

Arauna, and TTH :
It is a very simple, carefully crafted question to isolate one specific principle, from the full spectrum of high volume noise that surrounds this issue.
Most people think the Ten Commandments say "Thou shalt not kill." .... and it doesn't.
I says "Thou shalt not MURDER"
There is a very real difference between one, and the other ... just as there is a very real difference between your personal culpability if you accidentally hit a child on a bicycle while driving, and kill them .... and if you drive up onto the sidewalk, and deliberately kill the same child.
There are cases when killing IS ACCEPTABLE, should you choose to exercise your natural right of self defense, that all living things have as a natural right, and if you choose to do so, and are able to manage overcoming your adversary with deadly force ... there is absolutely no blood guilt incurred.  That is just one of perhaps several examples.
Understanding WHY one is allowable by God, and not the other ... is the KEY to understanding everything about the issue of blood guilt, or NO blood guilt, in every example that would come up in life.
It may remind you of a satanically inspired question where there is only a binary choice, like "Do you STILL beat your wife", but it is not.
My ex-mother-in-law may remind me of a Shrew, but she is not.
It is a question that when correctly answered, will give a complete understanding of our obligations toward God, what ever that might be, in a world where life and death is a daily concern.
There is a difference between KNOWING something ( which may be flat wrong) and UNDERSTANDING something, and it all depends on being able to correctly discern the actual, really true answer the question about any subject you could put forward, and that is ....
WHY?

Does he want to eliminate the requirement that Christians refrain from wars? Is that what he is driving at?
I should take the time to figure out myself whether he is advocating that, I know, but he is not being particularly transparent, he is distracted by answering a number of dubious characters, I am always waiting for the other shoe to drop with him in the form of a staggeringly disrespectful cartoon or quote, and I am up to my ears in my own projects. Other than that, I have no excuse for not having deciphered this more accurately.

I noticed about some Bible verses and reports about some events where taking other people life is issue this:
In some events, according to Bible,  God making fire from heaven, earthquake, flood, angels warriors or similar and killed few or many people.
In some other events, perhaps there is more such reports, God told, command particular people to kill other people, under various and different circumstances.
From this we can conclude, how people who belong or think they belong to only true religion or organization can't know for sure: will their God told them to stay still and watch, or will He command them to take action. God showed two side of his will.
In old Israel they had professional soldiers, but before they came to have professional army, many were simple ordinary workers. And they learned skills. JW people today not learning such skills, but for sure learning how to use "theocratic warfare" methods .... and that can be lethal too. (Not reporting CSA to secular government and shunning policy can have for sure very bad results). 
 

When you make up stuff out of thin air ... there is no limit to the error that seems natural to you.
You failed the simple "two question test".
The Universe will give you your grades ... without compassion or mercy.

The average person needs to see something about 9 times before it reaches the brains consideration zone, which is why companies bombard us with advertising non stop... Eventually it works
 

The average person needs to see something about 9 times before it reaches the brains consideration zone, which is why companies bombard us with advertising non stop... Eventually it works
 

Cats go crazy with the red pointer ones. I’ve seen cats climb halfway up a room wall trying to catch that dot.

Years ago, My three adult children were at the house with many of their friends, playing poker, telling jokes, and drinking beer at my long dining room table, and as I walked by, my second son asked "Hey Dad ... would you like a beer?"
I stopped and asked what kind they had.
There had all kinds of German and other imported beers, and of course Coors,  and names I had never heard of ... and I replied "No Thanks ... my favorite beer is Pabst Blue Ribbon Beer."
The general reaction was "Ewwwww", and this embarrassed both of my sons, like their father was a barefoot hillbilly with a speech impediment and soiled clothes, or something.
Then I mentioned "You know .... Pabst Blue Ribbon Beer is Clint Eastwood's favorite beer."
It was interesting to watch their faces as their minds grasped that, and their opinions changed instantly!
... There is NOBODY more Cool ... than Clint Eastwood.
 

James, what your above comment shows is that you are a physical man not a spiritual man.
I note that you have a need to keep referring to earthly things, not spiritual ones
Therefore, as on the door to door ministry, I will just walk away and let you believe what you need to believe at this point. In six months time your attitude may be different, but right now you have that need. 
 
 

Years ago, My three adult children were at the house with many of their friends, playing poker, telling jokes, and drinking beer at my long dining room table, and as I walked by, my second son asked "Hey Dad ... would you like a beer?"
I stopped and asked what kind they had.
There had all kinds of German and other imported beers, and of course Coors,  and names I had never heard of ... and I replied "No Thanks ... my favorite beer is Pabst Blue Ribbon Beer."
The general reaction was "Ewwwww", and this embarrassed both of my sons, like their father was a barefoot hillbilly with a speech impediment and soiled clothes, or something.
Then I mentioned "You know .... Pabst Blue Ribbon Beer is Clint Eastwood's favorite beer."
It was interesting to watch their faces as their minds grasped that, and their opinions changed instantly!
... There is NOBODY more Cool ... than Clint Eastwood.
 

I did too... and sometimes still do at Tooncast channel
 

I grew up watching these cartoons. ;-)
Classic and great.

What is REALLY amazing is the little tiny automotive windshield style lens wipers.

As I can no longer be bothered to be drawn into the problem you have with yourself, I'll just let it go.
You seem to have the same problem as many on here.
You are a 'physical man' not a 'spiritual man'. You lack faith in the things you cannot see.
And you are still part of this world, just like Tom and Aurana. Still talking politics. 
11 pm in England. Goodnight
 

Whazzamatter 4J ?
Downvoting because you know there ISN'T any such scripture?
Downvoting because you know I'm right?
Perhaps some other reason you might want to share with us?
Had a bad hair day?
 

4Jah2me:
What I have said is crystal clear and unambiguous.
You just cannot wrap your mind around what I am actually saying, from the noise of what you THINK I might be saying.
Because your thought processes are agenda driven, you assume mine are also.
If they are, I am totally unaware of what that agenda might be.
However, this is a common problem.
it is crystal clear to me, that a million words and "buzz scriptures" to the contrary (scriptures that sound good as long as you do not try to make direct application, to a SPECIFIC circumstance ...), that Jehovah God DOES NOT consider legitimate warfare between any organized group of people to be murder.
It's like when the Democrats tried to impeach President Trump by charging him with "Abuse of Power", and "Obstruction of Congress".
This is something that the Voters should decide, because the STANDARD for impeaching a President ... overturning the expressed will of the majority of States in the Republic ... was if he was guilty of "High Crimes and Misdemeanors", of which he was CLEARLY NOT GUILTY ... as no one EVER charged him with violating ANY specific law.  Basically, he was impeached, but acquitted of all charges against him.
Had it not been a weaponized indictment to keep him from competing in the 2020 Presidential Elections, which it was ( I watched full weeks of it, in its entirety), and been a legitimate impeachment, he STILL would have been acquitted, as he did not commit a crime that ACTUALLY EXISTED.
Since Jehovah God DOES NOT consider legitimate warfare between any organized group of people to be murder, my ONLY concern is trying to understand the legal principle of ...... WHY?
After the American Civil War, between the States, Abraham Lincoln granted Amnesty to all those who committed treason against the Union, by warring against the Union, and peace was restored.
Murders on BOTH sides were NOT forgiven
To the best of my knowledge and belief, this is exactly how Jehovah God considers the making of war, and the making of peace.
And exactly how he considers murder.
all other discussions, that are not involved in getting the answer to WHY? ... are beside the point.
If you can show me a clear, unambiguous scripture that says Jehovah in any way considers warfare to be viewed as, and reacted to, as first degree, premeditated murder, I will accept that, and of course HAVE to change my viewpoint.
Until then ... everything else is ONLY opinion.

@James Thomas Rook Jr. after reading Awake article some thoughts came out. 
After the flood Jehovah God pointedly told Noah: “Anyone shedding man’s blood, by man will his own blood be shed, for in God’s image he made man.” (Gen. 9:6) Yes, even before he gave a law code to Israel, God permitted capital punishment................
But what about war? Were Israel’s wars in violation of God’s command that is fittingly rendered, “You must not murder”?
No, they were not. The fact is that the Bible never uses the term ratsahh (murder) regarding any of those wars. When the Israelites warred at God’s command, they were not acting illegally. They were authorized by and were being directed by the Supreme Lawgiver. (Isa. 33:22; Ps. 19:7) These wars were not wars for limitless territorial conquest, 
.....(my add: yes they took territory :))
What about Christians? Since the Sixth Commandment merely restated what God had said earlier through Noah to the whole human family, we are still obliged to avoid murdering. .....(and to add again - capital punishment is legal and permitted by God, as article concluded)
Now, what about Christians today. Article using terminology "Christians", and not JW's or WT or JWorg and similar.  God have, according to Romans, His own arrangement and system how to punish wrongdoers. And that is SECULAR AUTHORITY. This is His SERVANT. But not only in Individual type of crimes, but about all sort of crimes on Global scene, on nationals levels. 
When one group, tribe, nation, fight against another one, for what ever reason, and murder number of individuals, they are guilty for taking their life. So, they need to be punished. Perhaps that can be reason for some group, tribe, nation to fight back and go to war. As article say, this is "Noah Law".
Well now, we have Romans epistle where God say how "Christians" are under Secular Authority Law, because they are His Servant to Punish crimes. Who can, have to punishing wrongdoers? Those who are Authorized? Who was given this Authorization? To Secular Authority, to Government in every single Nation.  
To make it short. "Christians" ares allowed to work under Secular Authority as executor of Government's orders about Capital Punishment decisions. If JW's consider self as the same as in article's terminology - "Christians", then JW can be policeman, executor of death penalties, or soldier in the army who working under Secular Authorities commands and instructions, wright or wrong, justice or injustice, because they are under God's appointment and His will to make free decisions. Because they will answer to God, not to JW member. 
In other words, JW member is not Authorized to questioning decisions made by Secular Authorities in the same way as he/she JW is not authorized to questioning GB doctrines and instructions.   :)))))
Well, can we choose who will we listen more, Secular Authorities or GB? Yes, we can choose to listen our conscience and free will. And take consequences for that, of course :)))
 

I liked him as governor—especially when he chided some colleagues to “not be girlie men”—in other words, step up to the plate on some issue or other. Turns out, though, that there were a lot of girlie men in California and they took issue with him.
But my favorite celebrity turned governor was Jessie Venture of Minnesota. The bumper stickers read: “My Governor Can Beat Up Your Governor.”
They asked Jessie about them. “Yeah, I’ve seen them, and they’re true, too. I’ve been to those governor conferences. I’ve looked those guys over. There’s not one of them I couldn’t take!” 

I’m only vaguely recalling it. It seems that Arnold tipped the plane to throw the bad guy perched on the nose off balance after signaling Jamie to hang on. I do this myself when cantankerous householders throw themselves on the hood of my car. Works like a charm.