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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    Sorta like running from an angry bear.
    You do not have to be faster than the bear.
    You just have to be faster than your fat friend.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to JW Insider in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    It's quite possible you are right about the current eight old men who may have never personally touched a child (in an abusive way). It's my impression that they are also quite innocent of any such issues.
    But I don't think you can ever say that anyone in such a position as in the GB cannot comprehend such wickedness in others. They have dealt with a lot in their lives and they have been forced to deal with the topic even if they didn't want to.
    And not to deal in gossip, but I can speak almost positively about the following situation, at least I can speak for the trustworthiness of the brothers who gave me the information. What I heard about several years ago from a friend in Writing, were things I talked about before the ARC, and they came up again from another brother after I discussed the ongoing ARC with him.
    It actually started with two members of the Governing Body, who seemed not to want to speak to each other. Both became GB members in 1974 and this issue was visible during the time I worked around them. One had previously been assigned to a leading position for the Branch in Australia and the other had previously been assigned to work in Japan. The brother assigned to Australia was recalled suddenly and demoted to become a Circuit Overseer in the Midwest in the United States. After many years of rebuilding his reputation, through Circuit then District work, he finally was asked to join the Governing Body in New York. The explanation I was given was that the demotion was punishment for being involved in accusations of child sexual abuse. (I never knew if the accusations had been in Australia, the USA, or both, but a later separate rumor had tied him to a case in the United States through a Witness doctor.) At any rate, by 1974, this issue was considered to have been from long enough in his past for his appointment to the GB.
    By 1991 one of the GB members was heading the Writing Dept, and the once-accused GB member was heading the Service Dept. You probably already know that the October 8 1991 Awake! had an article on Child Sexual Abuse that included "worldly" therapy as a possible solution for some victims, and this head of the Service Dept hated the article. (For that matter it's probably true that most members of the Governing Body apparently thought that worldly psychotherapy was little more than something worldly or even satanic.) But by now, there were Witness psychotherapists and psychiatrists, and they appreciated the article. Mostly the article was appreciated by CSA victims, and tons of letters of appreciation came in. For an April 1992 follow up, the head of Writing decided to print some excerpts from some of those letters of appreciation and the head of Service actually "stopped the presses" to have the article replaced while the head of Writing was out of the country. The head of Service didn't get his way; presses started up again, and you can read the article in the April 8 1992 Awake!.
    But, as head of the Service Department, he sent out several of the most well known Circuit and District Overseers on a campaign in 1992 to speak with abuse victims to let them know they should never reveal anything about their abusers and their abuse, or they could be disfellowshipped.
    One of those men in the intimidation campaign is now on the Governing Body.
    You can take these are merely unsubstantiated rumors, and I admit that I have no evidence to substantiate them. I can only speak to the honesty and track record of the brothers who told me about them.
     
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to TrueTomHarley in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    You may proceed.
    The requirements are not high. You must simply make sure that you are not the most unpleasant person here. The mere fact that you raised the above two points guarantees that you will not be.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Anna in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    I have found in over 7000 posts that I can be rude, and belligerent, and insulting ... if the level of stupidity rises to the point where a "reasonable person" would conclude that it is a defense to previous insults and/or accusations, not based in fact.
    And that insulting ideas and philosophies with provable facts is quite OK, here.
    Ad Hominem attacks are never acceptable without a solid basis to do so.
    ...... and never invoke "Godwin's Law", unless you fully understand what it says and does not say.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Anna in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    You are allowed to respond to criticism any way you want as long as you are civil and not rude.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    You are copying Arauna. You are doubling backwards to compare the GB and it's Org to the world which belongs to the Devil. 
    You should be comparing the GB and the Org to God's standards. 
    Back in the times of Israel the surrounding nations were offering their children in the fire to Molech. (This has been mentioned by people on here before.) Then it seems the Israelites also started offering their children in the fire to Molech. How did God feel about that ? Did God say, 'Oh well the Israelites  are not burning as many children as the other nations so it doesn't matter ' No I think not. God judged His people on His standards. 
    Quote from 
    w84 10/1 pp. 14-19 Remain “Without Spot From the World” “The form of worship that is clean and undefiled from the standpoint of our God and Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in their tribulation, and to keep oneself without spot from the world.”—JAMES 1:27.
    2 “The form of worship that is clean and undefiled from the standpoint of our God and Father is this,” wrote the disciple James, “to look after orphans and widows in their tribulation, and to keep oneself without spot from the world.” Another rendition is: “Pure, unspoilt religion, in the eyes of God our Father is this: coming to the help of orphans and widows when they need it, and keeping oneself uncontaminated by the world.”—James 1:27, The Jerusalem Bible.
    I quote you "Since the GB stay away from world influence, I don’t see where they think the same as the world."
    The GB deliberately tell lies, and they use dishonest lawyers in courts. They jump ahead of any spiritual guidance from God or Christ and make stupid statements such as the 'overlapping generations'. the two witness rule concerning child sexual abuse, a rule concerning accusing adults of different sexes of committing fornication if they happen to be in the same house overnight, funnily enough it doesn't apply to adults of the same sex, bit behind the times there..   Telling the anointed not to think about contacting each other around the earth (when we know the anointed are the Body of Christ)... And don't even think about mentioning some of the stupid videos they make... And now a court appearance it seems. Well they do seem to like being in front of the camera.  
    As for you commenting and being blunt. Do it. As long as you are not abusive and not too insulting to people  
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    Did i ever get a reply as to what will actually happen in these court cases ?  Are the GB members liable to get fined ?
    Is there a possibility of a prison sentence for each one ? 
     Looking back when the GB were playing games between the CCJW and WT Soc, basically sending letters to them selves, and the courts were not too happy about the wasted time etc. Fines imposed but then scrapped. So i would think the GB are not in favour with any of the courts. But things drag out so long so probs no result until next summer. 
     
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from admin in Muhammad Ali with his winnings in 1974   
    You or I could make that same money .... if we were willing and able to be punched in the face 600 times a night.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in If JWs told people their real motivation for knocking at their doors on the initial call.   
    When Jehovah witness visit your home (1).mp4
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Srecko Sostar in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    @John H Slaughter
    Did you down vote me as a person ..... or you down vote Court Document ? :)))))
    What ever of this two options stay behind your reason, than you have a problem.
    Do you offer third option? :))
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to TrueTomHarley in 'Electrocuted' for being a Jehovah's Witness - BBC News   
    The investigation was quick and concluded that there was nothing to it. The detained Witnesses had employed “martial arts techniques,” it said, and the abuse they complained of was no more than an attempt to restrain them from doing so.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to JW Insider in WT Society and Religious Education   
    Closest thing I remember to this idea was here:
    *** w95 1/1 p. 8 par. 16 Triumphing Over Satan and His Works ***
    16 This appears to be especially necessary today in view of the bizarre music with which Satan is drenching this world. In some cases there is a direct connection to Satanism. A report from the San Diego County (U.S.A.) sheriff’s office stated: “We had a concert down here where the band had 15,000 kids chanting ‘Natas’—that is, Satan spelled backwards.”
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to TrueTomHarley in WT Society and Religious Education   
    You do it by putting the turntable in neutral and spinning it backwards with your finger. When you do, you hear repeatedly and very distinctly, “Turn me on, dead man.” (Revolution #9) When you play “Strawberry Fields Forever” forward, you hear at the very end, “I buried Paul.”
    The rumor was that Paul, of the wildly popular only-game-in-town Beatles, had died some years ago and that the other three had covered it up, hiring a look-alike to take his place. This look-alike was referred to as “Billy Shears” from the Sgt Pepper’s album, who worried “what would you do if I sang out of tune?” but took solace that he would “get by with a little help from his friends.”
    The Beatles cross the street “Abbey Road” in single file on the cover of the album of that name. John leads, dressed in white—he is the preacher. Ringo is next, in black—he is the undertaker. Paul is third—barefoot as a corpse would be, cigarette in hand, though he supposedly quit them years ago—he is the dead man. George is fourth, dressed in workman’s clothes—he is the ditchdigger. The license plate of the VW just over the curb is “28 IF,” the age Paul would be IF he was still alive. The first song of that album, “Come together,” revolves around sounds that could best be characterized as a shovel piling on dirt, as in a burial. References abound to going on without Paul: “He says, ‘one and one and one is three,’ Hold on to his armchair, you can feel his disease.”
    The Sgt Pepper’s album cover features the old Beatles looking down upon the new Beatles, renamed Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band. The scene is of a burial—“Beatles” is spelled out in floral arrangement, and a host of other famous, though dead, people—Albert Einstein, Mae West, Edgar Allen Poe, about thirty in all—join the old Beatles in looking on.
    This is just for starters. Supposedly, the three surviving Beatles had planned this for years, hiding clues in their records.
    Why do I know this in such detail? I was a college student at the time. When this story broke, campus life came to a standstill. Kids were glued to campus radio, which cancelled all other programming to run with this 24/7. There was radio tie-in with major schools, which were also at standstills as regards academics activity. Students would call in with the latest theorizing. There were many in our school that cut classes so as not to miss a word. My roommate urged me (unsuccessfully) to install a reverse gear in my record player so as to play all Beatles songs backwards in search of additional clues. Had it been feasible, I probably would have done it.
    Outlandish rumors were bandied about and accepted as gospel. The feed station—from UCLA, perhaps—featured unending call-ins and interviews of the latest “research.” On the back  cover of the Sgt Pepper’s album, one of the four—Paul’s replacement, I think—is conducting the band. Superimposed on the cover are the lyrics to the songs within. By this means, “Paul’s” finger points to the words from “She’s Leaving Home,” “Wednesday morning at five o’clock.” If you called a certain number—also listed in the album somewhere, I think—you found yourself connected to hell. I think that if you pressed the matter, you risked losing your soul. Don’t ever let anyone tell you that they are “young adults” in college. They are big children, reveling in the [then] newfound freedoms of drugs and sex, free of parental supervision,  hopefully on their way to becoming adults.
    This Beatles’ plot was  the dominating concern of students then and it lasted for days on end.
    The weekend came. Maybe it was even some holiday. I went home, about 250 miles away. NOBODY KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS! On campus, NOBODY KNEW ANYTHING ELSE! I couldn’t believe how oblivious the out-of-touch farts were to the greatest story of our time! Finally, after a day or two, there was a brief snippet at the end of the “World News Report” and it was in the form of a scolding. Walter Chronkite or his like ran a line of two, briefly acknowledged that the Beatles—those precocious kids—were having a laugh on the world, but what a sick laugh it was.
    I wrote this up long ago. It does me good to recall it. Sure—I have nothing else to do with my time:
    https://www.tomsheepandgoats.com/2010/01/hurry-gwen-theyre-killing-people.html
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Srecko Sostar in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    Let us go further. By what law JHVH would judge people who lived in different periods of time. Because, as I understand Bible and WT interpretations of some verses, God will judge all our deeds. No matter of when people lived and no matter when they done something and did they die or still living.
    By what law He will do that? By the law that was in power when those people lived and done things, good and bad .......or will He using one Law (Present law in the moment of judging) and retroactively judged all our past deeds?
     Because Bible said how He will do that Retroactively.   God “will repay each person according to what they have done.” - Rom 2  
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Bogdan11 in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    I agree. Do you know the United States cannot be sued unless it allows it to be sued? The USA has immunity no different from that of individual States.
    If they didn’t have that immunity, imagine the millions of lawsuits against it for child abuse would be filed. It would mean the USA had failed its citizens for allowing hundreds of thousands of child abusers in their country.
    I figure if a country is allowing civil lawsuits across the board for institutions, they should be included. Those advocating for child protection should then voice their advocacy to be fair. Meaning if institutions are at fault for allowing child abuse through no real fault of their own, then governments and their citizens should bear the same responsibility. This would include those advocates that have done nothing wrong but their government has.
    If the argument is to have substance, then it should be fair and above board.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Srecko Sostar in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    Your entire comment and thoughts inside it are excellent and giving real picture on that part of JW organization and members. 
    I have singled out this section relating to the work of elders. The work of those elders who are concerned about the lives of the people, and their commitment to the spiritual and emotional relationships of the assembly members.
    I can assume that all such individuals among the elders, who are in the minority, experience very serious, conflicting turmoil. For those elders who are very sensitive by nature, all that they may face can be too much. For such elders, who begin to perceive the paradox that arises between truth, justice, Jesus' teaching, on the one hand, and the corporate governance of that power, the power that human influences and positions (hierarchies) have of things, can end up very bad for themselves. Even in suicide.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in JW.org Says Apostates are "Mentally Diseased"   
    You can change the spots on a leopard, but you can't change its breath.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Thinking in 2019 Annual Meeting wishes   
    The reason the "beard issue " always comes up, and has been for the past 60 years, is that it is THE CLASSIC EXAMPLE of "going beyond the things that are written', as the Pharisees did with their unscriptural and arbitrary rules.
    Of the 17 times I have been in the "little back room", "room 101", 13 have been to try and convince me to shave off my beard. 
    Because it was wrong to even ask me, I never did, for them.
    Eventually I shaved it off because my dying Father asked me to.  HE had the right to ask me to do that.
    I strongly suspect that if the GB and Elders could vote ... they would ALL vote Democrat.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in JW.org Says Apostates are "Mentally Diseased"   
    You can change the spots on a leopard, but you can't change its breath.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Suicide. God's view. Organisation's view   
    No nation on Earth considers death by warfare to be either murder or suicide.
    Neither does Jehovah God.
    Among the ancient Jews, killing someone with premeditation  in warfare was one thing .... premeditated killing someone in "civilian" life was considered murder.
    .... be a sport ... look it up.
    Meditating on this fact, when fully understood and integrated, will change you WHOLE VIEWPOINT on many many aspects of everything you thought was true.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Suicide. God's view. Organisation's view   
    No nation on Earth considers death by warfare to be either murder or suicide.
    Neither does Jehovah God.
    Among the ancient Jews, killing someone with premeditation  in warfare was one thing .... premeditated killing someone in "civilian" life was considered murder.
    .... be a sport ... look it up.
    Meditating on this fact, when fully understood and integrated, will change you WHOLE VIEWPOINT on many many aspects of everything you thought was true.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in By the way .... has the Society recently decided that voting is a matter of personal conscience?   
    In the Boy Scouts, when a fellow Scout was bitten by a snake, they taught us to cut two "X"s on the snake bite, and suck the venom out, then spit it out.
    Unless of course you get bitten in "certain private areas".....
    ..THEN ... you let them die.
    I am unfamiliar if there is any "new light" on this teaching.
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