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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from TrueTomHarley in If you could pick one moment (like a week) to relive over and over for the rest of your life which week would it be?   
    Biddy: Thanks for that.  It encouraged me a LOT .. and I am very hard to encourage.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in JW’s are now allowed to have beards and publicly preach....   
    To make a very long story very short, almost to the point of abbreviation .... and trying to stay on topic ....
    In the past 57 years, I have been in the "little back room, Room 101", about 17 times, being "counseled" by Elders that did not like "something" about me ... that I worked a lot of overtime, that I rode a Honda 350 motorcycle to the Kingdom Hall, that I "refused" to provide a telephone for my wife,  ad nauseum ... and I REALLY HATE BULLIES! ... but I digress ... and about 8 or so of those times it was to get me to cut off my beard.  One time it was because of my mustache. During the 60's it was because my hair came down just perceptively below the collar.
    In one congregation in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, I had no problem with the beard ... and even got a recommendation letter to go work at the Bethel Branch Office construction in Peru ... and in all others, I was castigated, and even forbidden to go out in Service until I shaved off my beard.
    After eight discussions, and no valid scriptural reasoning, all joy in doing what I was doing was destroyed ... but it bothered me A LOT that stuff like this was being inflicted on the global Brotherhood, in almost EVERY congregation I had ever attended. 
    If they could do it to me... they WERE doing it to other Brothers ... and things similar to this.
    Based on all available real evidence, it seemed to me that in order to be a watchtower approved Elder you had to be qualified as follows:
    1.) clueless
    2.) petty
    3.) irrational
    4.be a "Company Man", through and through.
    5.) and have no pangs of conscience whatsoever for being a bully.
    To be fair, I have also run across Engineers and Doctors that shared these traits, but they did not operate in an environment that ENCOURAGED this behavior.
    The other day I mentioned in a comment that I envied Anna, and she replied that she knew that ... because she still seems to have the joy in the Truth that has been systematically beaten out of me.
    I miss the man I used to be.
    A lot!
    I did have a choice, however ... either "get with the program", or keep my self respect.
    It has gotten better over the years, but only marginally, but I have endured things far, far worse that these things I have mentioned ... and I will endure things like this also.
    When my Dad died, about ten years ago, he asked me to shave off my beard ...  he also never liked it .... and  I have been clean shaven since then.
    I loved my Dad.
    I HATE BULLIES!
    I am 72 now, and in marginal health .... and can see the end of the "conveyor belt" on which I stand, and it bothers me.
    I am too old and fragile to carry on my back bags of heavy stones for someone else's entertainment.
     
     
     
     
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in The Man of Lawlessness in the 21st Century   
    I remember seeing on the news years ago some minority protest group complaining "Washington never pays any attention to US!"
    My immediate thought was "I wish Washington would not pay any attention to ME!"
    If the GB all go to heaven, perhaps God will have them counting clouds, or something.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Witness in JW’s are now allowed to have beards and publicly preach....   
    To make a very long story very short, almost to the point of abbreviation .... and trying to stay on topic ....
    In the past 57 years, I have been in the "little back room, Room 101", about 17 times, being "counseled" by Elders that did not like "something" about me ... that I worked a lot of overtime, that I rode a Honda 350 motorcycle to the Kingdom Hall, that I "refused" to provide a telephone for my wife,  ad nauseum ... and I REALLY HATE BULLIES! ... but I digress ... and about 8 or so of those times it was to get me to cut off my beard.  One time it was because of my mustache. During the 60's it was because my hair came down just perceptively below the collar.
    In one congregation in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, I had no problem with the beard ... and even got a recommendation letter to go work at the Bethel Branch Office construction in Peru ... and in all others, I was castigated, and even forbidden to go out in Service until I shaved off my beard.
    After eight discussions, and no valid scriptural reasoning, all joy in doing what I was doing was destroyed ... but it bothered me A LOT that stuff like this was being inflicted on the global Brotherhood, in almost EVERY congregation I had ever attended. 
    If they could do it to me... they WERE doing it to other Brothers ... and things similar to this.
    Based on all available real evidence, it seemed to me that in order to be a watchtower approved Elder you had to be qualified as follows:
    1.) clueless
    2.) petty
    3.) irrational
    4.be a "Company Man", through and through.
    5.) and have no pangs of conscience whatsoever for being a bully.
    To be fair, I have also run across Engineers and Doctors that shared these traits, but they did not operate in an environment that ENCOURAGED this behavior.
    The other day I mentioned in a comment that I envied Anna, and she replied that she knew that ... because she still seems to have the joy in the Truth that has been systematically beaten out of me.
    I miss the man I used to be.
    A lot!
    I did have a choice, however ... either "get with the program", or keep my self respect.
    It has gotten better over the years, but only marginally, but I have endured things far, far worse that these things I have mentioned ... and I will endure things like this also.
    When my Dad died, about ten years ago, he asked me to shave off my beard ...  he also never liked it .... and  I have been clean shaven since then.
    I loved my Dad.
    I HATE BULLIES!
    I am 72 now, and in marginal health .... and can see the end of the "conveyor belt" on which I stand, and it bothers me.
    I am too old and fragile to carry on my back bags of heavy stones for someone else's entertainment.
     
     
     
     
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Anna in JW’s are now allowed to have beards and publicly preach....   
    It's not so much about the traditions of men but more about not stumbling someone, the principle of which Paul spoke about in 1Cor 8:13. "That is why if food makes my brother stumble, I will never again eat meat at all, so that I will not make my brother stumble". Some communities really have something against beards, and others do not. Therefor it is up to the elders in each congregation and country to discern if a brother wearing a beard could somehow stumble someone, whether a JW or not. As Space Merchant said, a lot of it is down to culture and also down to respect for others. JTR shaved his beard off to make his dad happy. Nothing wrong with that. It's all about unselfishness really, and putting the other persons interest first. That is a Christ like trait. 
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Bubba Johnson Jr in What is the best way to do fasting?   
    don't put any food in your mouth
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Anna in The Man of Lawlessness in the 21st Century   
    Just piping in here. You might think it's an insulting question, but who taught you the TRUTH about the Trinity and hellfire? I sure know it wasn't any of Christendom's religions....
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in JW’s are now allowed to have beards and publicly preach....   
    To make a very long story very short, almost to the point of abbreviation .... and trying to stay on topic ....
    In the past 57 years, I have been in the "little back room, Room 101", about 17 times, being "counseled" by Elders that did not like "something" about me ... that I worked a lot of overtime, that I rode a Honda 350 motorcycle to the Kingdom Hall, that I "refused" to provide a telephone for my wife,  ad nauseum ... and I REALLY HATE BULLIES! ... but I digress ... and about 8 or so of those times it was to get me to cut off my beard.  One time it was because of my mustache. During the 60's it was because my hair came down just perceptively below the collar.
    In one congregation in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, I had no problem with the beard ... and even got a recommendation letter to go work at the Bethel Branch Office construction in Peru ... and in all others, I was castigated, and even forbidden to go out in Service until I shaved off my beard.
    After eight discussions, and no valid scriptural reasoning, all joy in doing what I was doing was destroyed ... but it bothered me A LOT that stuff like this was being inflicted on the global Brotherhood, in almost EVERY congregation I had ever attended. 
    If they could do it to me... they WERE doing it to other Brothers ... and things similar to this.
    Based on all available real evidence, it seemed to me that in order to be a watchtower approved Elder you had to be qualified as follows:
    1.) clueless
    2.) petty
    3.) irrational
    4.be a "Company Man", through and through.
    5.) and have no pangs of conscience whatsoever for being a bully.
    To be fair, I have also run across Engineers and Doctors that shared these traits, but they did not operate in an environment that ENCOURAGED this behavior.
    The other day I mentioned in a comment that I envied Anna, and she replied that she knew that ... because she still seems to have the joy in the Truth that has been systematically beaten out of me.
    I miss the man I used to be.
    A lot!
    I did have a choice, however ... either "get with the program", or keep my self respect.
    It has gotten better over the years, but only marginally, but I have endured things far, far worse that these things I have mentioned ... and I will endure things like this also.
    When my Dad died, about ten years ago, he asked me to shave off my beard ...  he also never liked it .... and  I have been clean shaven since then.
    I loved my Dad.
    I HATE BULLIES!
    I am 72 now, and in marginal health .... and can see the end of the "conveyor belt" on which I stand, and it bothers me.
    I am too old and fragile to carry on my back bags of heavy stones for someone else's entertainment.
     
     
     
     
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from admin in If you could pick one moment (like a week) to relive over and over for the rest of your life which week would it be?   
    My favorite scene was when, at the front door of the Piano teacher, Bill Murray offered her a thousand dollars (?) for a piano lesson, and the teacher threw the little girl student out the door.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Anna in If you could pick one moment (like a week) to relive over and over for the rest of your life which week would it be?   
    Biddy: Thanks for that.  It encouraged me a LOT .. and I am very hard to encourage.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Anna in If you could pick one moment (like a week) to relive over and over for the rest of your life which week would it be?   
    Moi?
    I am stopped... you should see me when I gets t'rollin' !
    I can out drag a Chevrolet.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from ComfortMyPeople in JW’s are now allowed to have beards and publicly preach....   
    To make a very long story very short, almost to the point of abbreviation .... and trying to stay on topic ....
    In the past 57 years, I have been in the "little back room, Room 101", about 17 times, being "counseled" by Elders that did not like "something" about me ... that I worked a lot of overtime, that I rode a Honda 350 motorcycle to the Kingdom Hall, that I "refused" to provide a telephone for my wife,  ad nauseum ... and I REALLY HATE BULLIES! ... but I digress ... and about 8 or so of those times it was to get me to cut off my beard.  One time it was because of my mustache. During the 60's it was because my hair came down just perceptively below the collar.
    In one congregation in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, I had no problem with the beard ... and even got a recommendation letter to go work at the Bethel Branch Office construction in Peru ... and in all others, I was castigated, and even forbidden to go out in Service until I shaved off my beard.
    After eight discussions, and no valid scriptural reasoning, all joy in doing what I was doing was destroyed ... but it bothered me A LOT that stuff like this was being inflicted on the global Brotherhood, in almost EVERY congregation I had ever attended. 
    If they could do it to me... they WERE doing it to other Brothers ... and things similar to this.
    Based on all available real evidence, it seemed to me that in order to be a watchtower approved Elder you had to be qualified as follows:
    1.) clueless
    2.) petty
    3.) irrational
    4.be a "Company Man", through and through.
    5.) and have no pangs of conscience whatsoever for being a bully.
    To be fair, I have also run across Engineers and Doctors that shared these traits, but they did not operate in an environment that ENCOURAGED this behavior.
    The other day I mentioned in a comment that I envied Anna, and she replied that she knew that ... because she still seems to have the joy in the Truth that has been systematically beaten out of me.
    I miss the man I used to be.
    A lot!
    I did have a choice, however ... either "get with the program", or keep my self respect.
    It has gotten better over the years, but only marginally, but I have endured things far, far worse that these things I have mentioned ... and I will endure things like this also.
    When my Dad died, about ten years ago, he asked me to shave off my beard ...  he also never liked it .... and  I have been clean shaven since then.
    I loved my Dad.
    I HATE BULLIES!
    I am 72 now, and in marginal health .... and can see the end of the "conveyor belt" on which I stand, and it bothers me.
    I am too old and fragile to carry on my back bags of heavy stones for someone else's entertainment.
     
     
     
     
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Witness in The Man of Lawlessness in the 21st Century   
    You were proposing a theory without knowing the facts; the primary one being the definition of God's Temple.  Tell you what, the next time I feel obligated to comment on a post you may start or address one of your comments, I won't address you directly, but will say something like "TTH said,....."  Oh, and I'll try to remember to add, "I believe it is this way."  I may forget; I am reaching 63 years.  
    "good anointed"   If you were at the door in your preaching work, and you engaged in a conversation about the trinity, would you feel you were a "good JW" by presenting them with truth from the Bible?    Perhaps you would, but you knew there were pertinent scriptures to present, and felt the need to show the person where he erred.    I have no feeling of being "good", but anxious about doing God's will properly, by speaking truth.  When Christ judges each one of us, then we will know who is "good".   
    "In the same way, when you have done all that you were commanded, you should say, ‘We are worthless servants; we’ve only done our duty.’”  Luke 17:10
    You might want to check on the GB though.  They are re-emphasizing they will soon be going to "heaven", leaving all of you behind with the elders.  Notice, only they will be going.  They must be good anointed ones  The rest of the anointed...well, the GB could care less.  
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to biddy2331@gmail.com in If you could pick one moment (like a week) to relive over and over for the rest of your life which week would it be?   
    I was baptized in August 1977 and the years from 1976 thru 1980 were the best years of my life because of the brilliant journey of discovery I was on learning about Jehovah and Jesus. These were the happyist years of my life and would relive them if I could. I thank Jehovah and bless that day in early 1976 when a sister dropped a tract into my letterbox because it changed my life totally.
    I am still a witness.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Srecko Sostar in JW’s are now allowed to have beards and publicly preach....   
    Very Understandable and Acceptable Explanatory Statement :))))
    .....with all questions and answers that this sentence - JW’s are now allowed to have - contains in itself. 
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Anna in JW’s are now allowed to have beards and publicly preach....   
    What's this about allowed/not allowed to have a beard? You can do what you want. You will just be limited in what privileges you get in some congregations. So it's up to you. Thankfully sisters don't have beard restrictions. A sister with a beard can still pioneer 😀
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to JOHN BUTLER in JW’s are now allowed to have beards and publicly preach....   
    @Anna There is a  'lady' here in Sidmouth Devon, (here where i live) and she has dreadlocks and beard growth. She is rather rotund and scruffily dressed. She's an antiques dealer so we have known her through the trade, she speaks quite posh. She immediately came to mind when you mentioned 'sisters with a beard'. 
    But back on topic. I had to laugh at your sentences 2 and 3.
    Quote 2. You can do what you want. 3. You will just be limited in what privileges you get in some congregations
    This falls apart for two reasons. 1. it is like blackmail. 2. the system should be exactly the same in every congregation earthwide. Otherwise the Org is basing it's decisions on the 'traditions of men' 
    There is no scriptural reason why any man in JW Org should not have a beard. So as i say it then becomes 'traditions of men'. 
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to JW Insider in JW’s are now allowed to have beards and publicly preach....   
    This is pretty sad. I think a lot of it had to do with the more Anglocentric makeup of the GB in past years. The motive of giving the appearance of unity is not a bad one. Our styles of dress reflect our unity of worship. It's nice to be able to drive through a neighborhood or even visit another city and recognize Witnesses from quite a distance away. But now, there is more concern for writing counsel that advises an entire world of customs. There is a need to generalize the counsel since every country gets the same counsel.
    A lot of people think that Rutherford started the no-beard policy as a control measure to make sure that the Russellite cult was weeded out from among the Bible Students. My great grandfather was among the Chicago Bible Students who had many beard-growers because they thought so highly of Russell, who wore a beard. He was well-known in Russell's circle of associates, but would not have "advanced" under Rutherford if he did not cut his beard.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Anna in If you could pick one moment (like a week) to relive over and over for the rest of your life which week would it be?   
    Money is the catalyst that changes all people.
    Especially as in the case of Prognosticators.
    I avoided the movie for several decades, reasoning "I don't want to go see a movie about a fake prophet stupid groundhog !" ... but it is an adorable move, with a LOT of subtle, low key, but memorable comedy moments, and several important insights.
    I have seen the movie "Groundhog day"  about four times.
    It has helped make me the man I am today!
     
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Melinda Mills in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    ... must be some very particular picky eaters to distinguish between "plant plankton" and "animal plankton".....
    These are microscopic (or close) animals that are all mixed together in a thin soup.
    There is ZERO chance oceanic life can discriminate, any more than if you could discriminate between two different types of tomatoes used in a blended tomato soup... through a straw.
    Whales do not eat whales, or dolphins, or sharks, as a general rule.
    You do know what a Baleen Whale is, don't you?
    If you don't ... please look it up, and THINK about it!
     
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to JOHN BUTLER in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    Quote @TrueTomHarley  This does not happen.
    I would not say that it never ever happens
    Tom you are sooo funny. Srecko saw it too.   And as for you talking about a JW made / GB made video, well what use is that ?
    The GB / JW org make videos for their own purposes, to twist reality.   Children get thrown out of homes regularly, but it should not be that way with JW's.
    Even my brother who is an Elder threw his youngest daughter out. She was actually homeless on the streets for a while. She is now happily married, out of the Org, and doing fine. When judgement comes, who knows, Jesus has the authority to judge not us. 
    My 25 year old son is a Punk rocker, mohawk hairstyle, leather jacket with rude words all over it,  he even gets two pairs of jeans of different colours and swaps one leg from each to make strange looking jeans, he's getting good at sewing now :). My point is he mixes with a lot of people that live on the streets and many of them were thrown out as teenagers. it's a common thing here in UK, so maybe JW's don't worry about it either, they just do it. 
    But when you push a person out into the world you push them into fighting for survival as best they can. A homeless person here in UK, with no address, cannot get a job and cannot claim any benefit. The common thing is, the boys deal drugs, the girls sell themselves, sex for cash. Would you chuck you children out on the streets to live like that ? 
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    .... and baby eaglets are not going to be too happy  ..... for their VERY short lives .....  when the Mama Bald Eagle brings home straw and grass, instead of rabbits, mice, and fish.
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