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Peter Carroll reacted to Witness in THE THIEF
Wt 2019/10/5 page 5 – “By the end of 1919, Jehovah’s people were reorganized and energized. Additionally, several important prophecies involving the last days had been fulfilled. The testing and refinement of God’s people, foretold at Malachi 3:1-4, was complete.”
What were those prophecies fulfilled?
"Jehovah’s people had been released from their symbolic captivity to 'Babylon the Great,' and Jesus had appointed 'the faithful and discreet slave.'
This slave, which I understand was Russel, would have been “faithful” to the doctrines of Jesus only, and not to those of men. (Mark 7:6,7) He would have been “discreet” (meaning “intelligent, wise”) about what was taught, don’t you think?
Gal 1:6-9 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Gal+1%3A6-9&version=NASB
Yet, Russell’s self-motivated works are not taught world-wide today; whereas the apostles' teachings, are. His books are not used by your own organization. You know what is rather amazing about this? Your leadership says, there was no “faithful and discreet slave” in the first century! What did Jesus call those then, who were “faithful” until death, preaching his word throughout the area of the world they knew? If they were faithful to the word of God, they were found “intelligent, wise” in God’s truth, before their Master. (Luke 19:11-27; Rev 17:14)
“But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.” John 16:13
That is also interesting, isn’t it? Your past and present leadership keep getting “what is to come”, wrong! Jesus said that is a sign that they are not part of him, not part of the vine of Christ and recipients of the Spirit of truth. Their “fruit” does not prove they are Christ’s disciples. (John 15:1-8,16)
What were the many “prophecies” after that, that Rutherford made which weren’t fulfilled? Any JW can research this online; and they should ,without fear.
Mal 3:3 (from the quote above) – “And He will sit as a smelter and purifier of silver, and He will purify the sons of Levi and refine them like gold and silver, so that they may present to the Lord offerings in righteousness.”
From 1914 to 1919, Jesus apparently came to his Temple - to his anointed living stones (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16) which included Rutherford, if he was anointed. The Wt is saying that from among all of the anointed, he cleaned out, removed, those who would create stumbling blocks against the truth - his truth, God's truth. This would be anything spoken by an anointed one, that defiled his teachings. The stumbling blocks would be created by men, who call them, truth. Their hearts and desires were analyzed - measured, according to scriptures - according to the word of God. (Zech 4:8-10; Amos 7:7,8; Rev 11:1,2) (Isa 43:21; 1 Pet 2:9; 1 Cor 3:10) They would have been refined from all false teachings as Mal 3:1-4 states.
In 1921, Rutherford published the book, “Harp of God” which the GB member David Splane spoke about at the annual meeting. He built that book up, practically putting it on a pedestal. How? Not by what was stated inside its cover, but by saying over 6 million of copies had been circulated. This book was to “make it easier for people to come into the truth”, a “simple” book. If this book was so wonderful, truthful, and easy to learn from, why is it not on your website? Have you read this book? Have you noticed its lies that are discarded by the organization today? This book was a spiritual plague that did not bring people into the truth, but brought people into captivity to men, and their selfish motives to produce what their hearts desired. (Jer 23:16; Luke 6:45; Matt 7:15-20; 1 John 4:1; 1 Tim 4:1; 2 Cor 11:13-15)
If Christ came and cleansed his living Temple ( 2 Cor 6:16) of all defilement between 1914-1919, does that not include lies that contradict his word? Have you considered how these men came to the conclusion that it took Jesus 5 years to cleanse the temple? Where is the scriptural proof? And did he overlook the heart of Rutherford, by allowing him to teach lies? (John 2:25; 1:1; Heb 4:12) Are Rutherford's lies excused, yet Christendom’s lies condemned?
The Harp of God, along with many others, is far from an ‘offering in righteousness”.
Do JWs understand what “truth” is, and what “righteousness” in the sight of God, is? (2 Thess 2:9-12)
Is this “truth”…?
“ In 1831 the first locomotive steam engine was invented. Such wonderful progress has been made in this regard that now one can travel through almost any part of the earth at a rapid rate upon a railway train. Later came the electric engines and electric motor cars and gas engines; and now there is a tremendous amount of travel in every part of the earth. It is no uncommon thing for one to travel at the rate of 75 and 100 miles per hour; and particularly is this true by means of a flying machine, which is a very modern invention. God’s Prophet designates this same time as “the day of God’s preparation”. In Nahum 2:1-6 the Prophet records his vision of a railway train traveling at a high rate of speed, as another evidence of the day of preparation for the establishment of Christ’s kingdom.” P. 124 Harp of God
We either strive to understand and come to love the word of God in Christ, or we prefer the empty, worthless words of men, such as found in publications continually discarded by your leadership. Although the organization judges an individual as worthy or unworthy of God's Spirit based on man's word - doctrine, Jesus said, "The one who rejects me and does not accept my teachings has one who judges him: the word which I spoke. That will judge him on the last day." John 12:48
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Peter Carroll reacted to Witness in THE THIEF
Wt 13/7/2015 p. 11 – “Jesus began to inspect the spiritual temple in 1914. Jesus’ work to inspect and cleanse that temple lasted from 1914 to the early part of 1919.
Since 1919, anointed ones have been gathered into the cleansed Christian congregation.”
The anointed are the spiritual Temple of God, even though recent “new light” revealed by GB member G. Losch, is saying otherwise; said, without the use of any scriptural application to support his uninspired teaching. (1 Pet 2:5;1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22)
What are the anointed cleansed of, when entering the organization? Are they cleansed of the weeds, as this article suggests are the people who left the organization during Rutherford’s tyrannical rule - this man, who continually set dates for Armageddon that proved false? Obviously, the anointed were not cleansed of false predictions which they preached at one time as truth. (Deut 18:20-22) They were not cleansed of doctrine proven to be false. (Matt 15:9) Are they cleansed of extolling an earthly organization, instead of extolling and praising only God and Christ? (2 Pet 1:16,17; Heb 1:1-4)
Are they cleansed of idolatry? (Exod 20:4,5; 23:13; 2 Cor 6:16; Acts 17:24; Rom 1:25; Rev 13:4)
Are they cleansed of following the dictates of men not inspired but who compare themselves to the apostles, and who expect dedication and allegiance to this earthy organization, over and above devotion to the Father and the Son, as the example set by the early inspired apostles? (2 Cor 11:13; Col 2:8-10,20-22)
People who give full devotion to the Father and the Son are disfellowshipped. This seems to indicate that the organization cleanses itself from the faithful ones, that Jesus calls out of Wt. darkness! (Matt 5:11; 10:22; John 16:2; Rev 13:15; 11:1-3,7; 6:9-11; 2:2-5; 3:8-12)
What sort of sacrifices of praise do the anointed priests give to God and their Head, Jesus Christ? They give what false prophets put in their mouth – lies. (1 Tim 4:1; Rev 16:13-16)
They allow “Gentile” elders to take their place as priests and teachers of God’s laws in Christ. (Exod 40:15;Num 18:7; Mal 2:7,8; 1 Pet 2:5,9) They allow elders to judge them based on accepting or rejecting the lies of a wicked slave. (Matt 24:48-51; 5,16; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 13:11,12,5-7) They've allowed God's sanctuary to be defiled by the "abomination"/elder body standing where it does not belong. (Mark 13:14)
Have they followed in the footsteps of Christ by rejecting ALL falsehoods, doctrine and obedience to men as Jesus’ example while on earth shows us?
Have the anointed died for the sake of Christ and his teachings? Or, do they harbor the fear of losing the life they have built while in the organization, which falsely promises “peace and security”, if one remains inside? (Jer 23:16,17; 1 Thess 5:3) Or, do they love what this life provides them, instead of reaching out to Jesus Christ who advises them to “buy” from him, wisdom and truth? (Prov 23:23;John 14:6; Rev 3:18)
They are held captive to false teachers/prophets and their elder troops. (Matt 24:24,25; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 9:3-5; 11:1,2; 20:7-9)
The harvest is ongoing inside the organization. The “weeds” are those “sons” who bend their backs to the deceptive power of men over them, and adopt a new father to lead them. (Matt 8:11,12; John 8:42-44; Gal 1:10) The “wheat” are the “sons” who reject this power, and subject themselves to their King, Jesus Christ. (Matt 13:37-40)
No one is “wheat” in God’s eyes, when they tolerate false teachers who produce rotten fruit! (Matt 7:15-23)
“For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.” Matt 5:20
“The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom (from among the anointed members of his Body)…
all things that offend, (“stumbling”) and those who practice lawlessness, 42 and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear!” Matt 13:41-43
The thief is the one that "comes in through another way" (John10:1; Joel2:9-10). https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John10%3A1%3B+Joel2%3A9-10&version=NIV
At John 10:10, Jesus said, "10 The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. But I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly."
Jesus said he comes by way of the gate, which the gatekeeper opens for him (Mark13:33-34; John10:2-3). Not so with the thief. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark13%3A33-34%3B+John10%3A2-3&version=NIV
He "sneaks in a different way" (John10:1).
The first thief is not Jesus Christ, but the Sneak who is thought to be Christ.
The thief is really a false christ, and all are misled into THINKING it is Jesus Christ's return. In that way, Jesus comes as a thief. The thief is presented, as Christ.
That false, premature arrival of Christ by the imposter, was referred to by Paul, at 2Thess.2:1-3. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2Thess.2%3A1-3&version=NIV
The first arrival of Christ as the thief, is a thief arriving AS Christ, who robs the crown of the elect (Rev.3:11; Mark13:34-37), through that great deception.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rev.3%3A11%3B+Mark13%3A34-37&version=NIV
Those who put faith in that thief/impostor, believe in the false Christ that Jesus foretold, at Matt.24:4-5,24-25 and Rev.13:11; 16:13-14; 1Tim.4:1. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt.24%3A4-5%2C24-25%3B+Rev.13%3A11%3B+16%3A13-14%3B+1Tim.4%3A1.&version=NIV
The second arrival of Christ as a thief, is when he really, genuinely arrives. Those who had put faith in the false arrival of the impostor/antiChrist; are not ready to recognize Christ's genuine arrival to inspect his servants. For them, Christ's real arrival is as a stealth thief they did not expect, nor were they prepared for. They are found "naked" by Jesus... unclothed with the necessary garment of righteousness and love (Rev.19:8; 6:9-11; Gal.3:27; John13:34; Col.3:14). https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rev.19%3A8%3B+6%3A9-11%3B+Gal.3%3A27%3B+John13%3A34%3B+Col.3%3A14&version=NIV
Those fooled by the arrival of the murdering robber, have not sacrificed their lives for the truths and example of Jesus, but instead, they believed in a false peace and security with God... drowzy and drunk on the harlot's wine (the doctrine of the false Christ/thief)
Pearl Doxsey
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Peter Carroll reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Worldwide Special Campaign November 2021 Letter Writing - Telephone templates
The letter writing has been frightening many people in England. Some people think they are being 'singled out' or 'picked on' and it makes them worry who is doing such a thing. There has been newspaper articles reporting how people are being upset by it all. However, it does prove that people are reading the letters. It's mainly older folk that cannot make proper sense of it all. But if it gets some people thinking about God, Christ and the Bible, then it has to be good.
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Peter Carroll reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Inside the brutal world of the Jehovah’s Witnesses
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-13/jehovah-witnesses-child-abuse-four-corners-investigations/100444320
Since the royal commission exposed the cruel treatment of victims of child abuse within the Jehovah’s Witnesses, little has changed.
But in a landmark civil case, former member Amy Whitby is taking on the secretive religious group in court.
Eight million Jehovah’s Witnesses around the globe believe that Armageddon is imminent, and the only path to survival is to follow the organisation’s strict rules.
A US-based Governing Body of eight men sits at the pinnacle of the Jehovah’s Witnesses organisation. Jehovah’s Witnesses believe these men are anointed as the voice of God on Earth.
All Witnesses are expected to obey instructions and doctrines that influence every aspect of life: Women are considered subservient to men, higher education is discouraged and homosexuality is not permitted.
Doomsday images from Jehovah's Witnesses publications. Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania
The organisation’s in-house production studio and publications pump out fear-driven content that keeps followers afraid that the end is coming and that they are being persecuted by the outside world.
Witnesses are also taught to distrust everyone outside the group.
Just another article about the Watchtower / JW Org, but it shows people's personal opinions. It's worth a read.
So how do JWs expect to teach people 'truth' whilst people have this image of them ?
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Peter Carroll reacted to Arauna in The 40 year refinement period...
I agree with sustainable development goals. Which person who loves the earth do not want this to take place? However, the global rich (show have an agreement with the UN) want an inventory of all animals, persons, food, water, energy, (all resources) so they can allocate to you food etc. according to your carbon record which they will measure (a carbon credit system etc.) Unfortunately the very people who want to control all people are the very same corporations/billionaires, who are responsible for all the environmental damage in the first place. The databases they will have on each person will take up tremendous energy to ,maintain... their own plans are not sustainable...... and they have a plan to get rid of a lot of people too! One of their old videos ( promoting agenda 2021) basically says - there are too many people on earth vying for resources.....