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Peter Carroll
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Peter Carroll reacted to Moise Racette in EXJWs Are Going to the U.S. Capitol
To start, harassment, then malice, defamation, etc.
Ignorance of the law and stupidty(inteptitude) is no defense.
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Peter Carroll reacted to Witness in Daily Text for October 8, 2022
How does truth turn in to a lie? It happens gradually by “adjusting” facets of it, bit by bit, drawing little attention to the change. Eventually, as time passes, it is good to go - to be packaged and sold as “truth”.
Daily text, October 8, 2022:
The body is one but has many members.—1 Cor. 12:12.
What a privilege we have to be part of Jehovah’s congregation! We are in a spiritual paradise that is full of peaceful, happy people. What is your place in the congregation? The apostle Paul compared the congregation to the human body. He also compared the individuals in a congregation to parts of the body. (Rom. 12:4-8; 1 Cor. 12:12-27; Eph. 4:16) One lesson we can learn from Paul’s illustration is that each one of us has an important place in Jehovah’s family. Paul begins his illustration by saying: “Just as we have in one body many members, but the members do not all have the same function, so we, although many, are one body in union with Christ, but individually we are members belonging to one another.” (Rom. 12:4, 5) What was Paul’s point? Each one of us has a different role in the congregation, but each one of us is valuable. w 20/08/20
The Body of Christ is taught as including all JWs; but compare this to previous teachings:
Questions from readers, 1964/8/1 = His body members are also anointed with Jehovah’s spirit at the time of their being begotten by Jehovah to be sons of God. They become members of the body of Christ, the Anointed One.—2 Cor. 1:21, 22.
The same scriptures from 2 Cor. are found in the Daily Text, but this is saying all members of the Body of Christ are anointed.
W 1956/1/15 55-56 - “Because there is one loaf, we, although many, are one body, for we are all partaking [eating] of that one loaf.” (1 Cor. 10:17, NW) To which body does Paul here refer by the words “one body”? Not to the personal, fleshly body of Jesus which is symbolized by the loaf of unleavened bread. No, but to the entire congregation of spiritual Israelites of which Jesus Christ is the spiritual Head. This congregation under him is later spoken of in this same letter of Paul as Christ’s body: “Now you are Christ’s body, and members individually. And God has set the respective ones in the congregation.”—1 Cor. 12:27, 28, NW.
Again, another set of scriptures are repeated, but referring only to the anointed of “Israel”, not to all JWs..
Wt 1951/1/16 p. 60-61 “Memorial partakers must keep clearly in mind that they are “Christ’s body”, symbolized by the one loaf, and consequently they must keep unity as “one body”. We must have a “proper sense of the Body”, sensing our personal unity with the Head Jesus Christ. If we do not, then we will become spiritually “weak and sickly” and even be “sleeping in death”, as many of the Corinthians did back there.”
The Body of Christ is the spiritual Temple of God. (John 2:19,21) Now that this has all changed, proper sense has flown out the window. Does this mean that all JWs will be partaking soon at your memorial? Does it mean you are all the Bride of Christ? (2 Cor 11:2) Does it mean that you are all priests in the spiritual Temple of God? (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16)
Why has truth in the Watchtower about the anointed as the Body of Christ, been altered, fully changed into a lie? Why didn’t they leave well enough alone? If all JWs are considered the “Body of Christ” today, then selling their doctrine that all JWs comprise the Temple of God is easy, and it promotes the false doctrine that the “man of lawlessness”, who is found sitting in the temple of God” (2 Thess 2:4) is found in the world of politics; and it leaves room for Wt. to point to the persecution of JWs, received at the hands of political rulers.
If the GB must promote a changed doctrine from what was true to what is false, we must ask WHY.
This is why – “Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, 2 that you not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit or a message or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. (1914) 3 Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.”
The priests are “living stones” of God’s Temple. JWs not anointed, are not included. (1 Pet 2:5,9)
Who has taken his seat in the Temple dwelling of God in the anointed ones? (1 Cor 3:16,17) The elder body who “represent the anointed priesthood”. Can any of you tell me a time in biblical history when the priesthood has been allowed by God to be subjugated by “foreigners” – those not anointed? Ezek 44:6-9
The gradual teachings where truth was evident but is now erased, was prophesied to happen in the last days. A “false prophet” and the organization it directs (the collective elder body as the "Beast") are demon inspired. (Rev 13:1,2,11,12) Wt.’s teachings have changed over the years; not one JW who has been in the organization for a number of years, can deny it. This gradual change is defined in Rev 16:13-16. It gives us the illustration of a tadpole turning into a frog through various stages, and we have the scriptural example of what “frogs” can mean – a plague. (Exod 8:1-4; Rev 6:8; 9:18)
Ultimately, the teaching about the Body of Christ has changed to disguise the identity of the “man of lawlessness”. The elders “stand where they don’t belong”.(Mark 13:14) The scriptures CLEARLY show us the detrimental folly of replacing the priests of God. (Num 18:7) If you stay in the organization, you are playing with fire – the condemnation of the word of God. (Jer 23:29) While you are all worried about the “apostates” outside of the organization, your greatest worry, is being found among them in the organization. (2 Thess 2:8-12; Rev 18:4-8)
Matt 24:15,16 - “Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains.”
Check Wt’s Greek Interlinear and you will find that it is translated “having stood in place holy the one”. In order to add credence to a false doctrine, your Bible has it translated as, “standing in a holy place”. This makes it easy for your leaders to point to any church, any “holy place” they want, to say that is where the “man of lawlessness” is found, when all the while the elders have trampled the Temple priesthood. They have trampled down the sanctuary of God. (Dan 11:31,32,36; Rev 11:1,2)
What is “the holy place”? The Bible defines it in Exod 28:43. Why haven’t they told you the same?
Matt 24:24,25
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Peter Carroll reacted to Arauna in Armageddon comes in two phases...
Thanks for the correction. I had a memory lapse. I often write very late at night due to our time difference. I also have bad eyes and do not see spelling mistakes.
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Peter Carroll reacted to Arauna in Armageddon comes in two phases...
You are supposed to know it:
Revelation 19: 19 onward " And I saw the wild beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage war against the one seated on the horse and against his army.+ 20 And the wild beast was caught, and along with it the false prophet+ that performed in front of it the signs with which he misled those who received the mark of the wild beast+ and those who worship its image.+ While still alive, they both were hurled into the fiery lake that burns with sulfur.+ 21 But the rest were killed off with the long sword that proceeded out of the mouth of the one seated on the horse.+ And all the birds were filled with their flesh."
1Sam 17: 46 " This very day Jehovah will surrender you into my hand,+ and I will strike you down and cut off your head; and on this day I will give the corpses of the camp of the Phi·lisʹtines to the birds of the heavens and to the wild beasts of the earth; and people of all the earth will know that there is a God in Israel."
Birds of prey is a symbolic way of saying: real living corpses that can be eaten - meaning literal death.
Jer 7: 33
"And the dead bodies of this people will become food for the birds of the heavens and for the beasts of the earth, with no one to frighten them away".
These are figurative depictions of literal events that will take place = people will lose their lives and be viewed as eaten by unclean birds.
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Peter Carroll reacted to BroRando in Armageddon comes in two phases...
Since the Last Days of 1914 are in reference to Satan's System of things... then the Birth Pains represent a New System of things being ushered in. Those on the outside will not be able to escape the destruction.
The period of time leading up to the end of the system of things, or state of affairs, dominated by Satan. It runs concurrently with Christ’s presence. Under the direction of Jesus, angels will “separate the wicked from among the righteous” and destroy them. (Mt 13:40-42, 49) Jesus’ disciples were interested in the timing of that “conclusion.” (Mt 24:3) Before his return to heaven, he promised his followers that he would be with them until that time.—Mt 28:20.
Armageddon is spiritual and commences when Jesus and angels will “separate the wicked from among the righteous” and destroy them. (Mt 13:40-42, 49)
It took Jesus a period of 40 years to remove unfaithful Israel from the living and lay them in the dust and during this time, they were well fed and their clothes did not even wear out. Yet, they did not know that they were being destroyed. "Neither be murmurers, as some of them murmured, only to perish by the destroyer." (1 Cor 10:10)
Now after the 1,000 years, the scriptures state, "Now as soon as the 1,000 years have ended, Satan will be released from his prison, and he will go out to mislead those nations in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Maʹgog, to gather them together for the war. The number of these is as the sand of the sea. And they advanced over the whole earth and encircled the camp of the holy ones and the beloved city. But fire came down out of heaven and consumed them." (Rev 20:7-9)
Now that's LITERAL. The same ones that think Armageddon is Literal and flesh will fall off the bone and the wicked will simply melt away in a literal fire will be claiming Jehovah's Day is delaying. But such ones are in danger of being destroyed also. For them, they have "No Faith".
‘But my righteous one will live by reason of faith,’ and, ‘if he shrinks back, my soul has no pleasure in him.’” (Hebrews 10:36-38) If Armageddon is literal from the start, then faith would not be needed to be exercised.
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Peter Carroll reacted to BroRando in The Abyssment of Satan is coming...
"During that time {Jesus Christ} will stand up, the Great Prince who is standing in behalf of your people. And there will occur a time of distress such as has not occurred since there came to be a nation until that time. And during that time your people will escape, everyone who is found written down in the book. And many of those asleep in the dust of the earth will wake up, some to everlasting life and others to reproach and to everlasting contempt." (Daniel 12:1-2)
So Michael is the angel that would be given a new name. That new name would have a significant meaning since prophecy states, "I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you on the way and to bring you into the place that I have prepared. Pay attention to him, and obey his voice. Do not rebel against him, for he will not pardon your transgressions, because my name is in him." (Exodus 23:20-21)
Since Michael was created in the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation, his name reflects that meaning. Michael when translated means 'Who is Godlike?' or 'Who Is Like God?' The scripture points this meaning out quite nicely, "You made him a little lower than godlike ones, And you crowned him with glory and splendor." (Psalm 8:5) Immanuel when translated means "With us is God?'
The Scriptures also point out that Michael was sent and given the name to the glory of God the Father. "Keep this mental attitude in you that was also in Christ Jesus, who, although he was existing in God’s form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God. No, but he emptied himself and took a slave’s form and became human." (Philippians 2:5-7) Yes, this very angel would be given the name to the glory of God the Father and have his Father's Name in him. “I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, watch over them on account of your own name, which you have given me, so that they may be one just as we are one."(John 17:11)
"More than that, when he came as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death, yes, death on a torture stake. For this very reason, God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name, so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend—of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground— and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father." (Philippians 2:8-11) The Name (Jesus) when translated means “Jehovah Is Salvation.”
"And war broke out in heaven: {Jesus Christ and his angels} battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them any longer in heaven." (Rev 12:7-8)
That War began in 1914 and has been affecting the earth and its inhabitants ever since. Michael gives encouragement to his followers: "I am coming quickly. Keep holding fast to what you have, so that no one may take your crown. The one who conquers—I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will by no means go out from it anymore, and I will write upon him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the New Jerusalem that descends out of heaven from my God, and my own new name." (Rev 3:11-12) "So he has become better than the angels to the extent that he has inherited a name more excellent than theirs." (Hebrews 1:4)
'I, {Michael} sent my angel to bear witness to you about these things for the congregations. I am the root and the offspring of David and the bright morning star.’ (Rev 22:16)
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Peter Carroll reacted to Arauna in Bro Rando is a rogue jw, which jw's here believe in him?
I do not debate with her any longer - but I did make comments about being deaf and speaking with body language so people can understand. Jesus only answered the Pharisees when someone else could learn by his words.....
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Peter Carroll reacted to Witness in Bro Rando is a rogue jw, which jw's here believe in him?
It appears the excuse is made in favor of what Lett said. If the enemy is identified, caution is taken against it. GB member A. Morris gave a vivid example with a match of what happens to “Jehovah’s enemies”. Lett identified the enemy as babies. Put the two expressions together and what do you have? He set the stage for disaster because of not considering how powerful his words could have, on any one of his listeners…from the removal of love shown in the family setting toward a baby or young child, to what this woman committed. I know of a woman who was raised as a JW and who suffered severe abuse by her mother - beat with a 2x4 regularly, and screamed at after each meeting simply because a little girl could not live up to her mother's extreme standards. Her mother was well liked, well respected in the organization. People like her mother would take Lett’s words to heart, and most likely cause further damage to her already damaged daughter...that lasts a lifetime.
By the way, it has been brought out that the woman who killed her baby had a good rapport with all in her congregation. As far as her mental instability, are you aware of the high count of depression that runs through the organization? The high count of drug use to help curb the depression? Have you thought of the woman's Ecuadorian background of historic religious beliefs? What about JWs in Africa coming out of their own ancient understanding of evil, and how to attack it? Combined with a strong cultural background of religious influence, the GB’s words are like fire that can destroy a forest in an instant.
God’s word in Christ about children should have been Lett’s guidelines; but instead, he leaned on his own understanding. The law of God is fulfilled in Jesus’ words, fulfilled in love.
"Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law" Rom 13:10
He disregarded what a mother would feel by the use of his words. He showed no love to his neighbor.
“Lawlessness” develops from a lack of love, appreciation for, and obedience to, Jesus’ teachings. It appears that most all of you choose the words of men, over the words of Jesus.
Because lawlessness is increased, most people’s love will grow cold. Matt 24:12
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Peter Carroll reacted to Witness in Bro Rando is a rogue jw, which jw's here believe in him?
Again, God’s word in Christ about children should have been Lett’s guidelines; but instead, he leaned on his own understanding. The law of God is fulfilled in Jesus’ words, fulfilled in love.
It is Lett who has not conscience. 1 Tim 4:1,2
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Peter Carroll reacted to Witness in Bro Rando is a rogue jw, which jw's here believe in him?
So, are you saying that three elders sitting in on a judicial meeting who give the verdict upon a JWs that he is disfellowshipped - “dead in Jehovah's eyes" – are all asses? John 16:2; Rev 13:15
“For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.” Matt 7:2
John 12:48 – “He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day.”
Lett ignored the words of Jesus about children.
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Peter Carroll reacted to Witness in Bro Rando is a rogue jw, which jw's here believe in him?
Which means, an elder cannot read the heart of a person, yet can still decide that God deems that one as spiritually dead. Which also indicates that the elders who make such a judgment, have their consciences seared. God's words tells us that it is called, wearing a "breastplate of iron". Rev 9:1-4,9
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Peter Carroll reacted to xero in Bro Rando is a rogue jw, which jw's here believe in him?
I'd say that Jehovah is the judge of whose conscience is in order. Anyone who disagrees is an ass.
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Peter Carroll reacted to Arauna in Bro Rando is a rogue jw, which jw's here believe in him?
He has... if you have chatted with parents who are deaf your whole life.... you would also use facial expressions in a way nobody else does.....
I have decided you are positively without a conscience.....
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Peter Carroll reacted to BroRando in Bro Rando is a rogue jw, which jw's here believe in him?
If people knew that Brother Lett's Parents were deaf, they could see why he speaks the way he does. Have you seen how a deaf person communicates? They over exaggerate to get their point across. When the wicked make fun of Brother Lett, they (the demons) are poking fun at the deaf.
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Peter Carroll reacted to BroRando in Bro Rando is a rogue jw, which jw's here believe in him?
Do I need to say anything more?
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Peter Carroll reacted to BroRando in Bro Rando is a rogue jw, which jw's here believe in him?
Don't let {it} water down Jehovah's Word. That is how the DECEPTION starts.
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Peter Carroll reacted to TrueTomHarley in Bro Rando is a rogue jw, which jw's here believe in him?
“Then Truetom, also called TTH, becoming fed up, looked at her intently and said: “O woman full of every sort of fraud and every sort of villainy, you daughter of the Devil, you enemy of everything righteous, will you not quit distorting the right ways of Jehovah? (Acts 13:9-10)
What he said was:
“Now, if we think about it, we're not born as friends of God because we're born as sinful offspring of Adam. Actually, when we think about it, we're born as enemies of God. Sometimes you'll hear people say of a little baby, ‘Look at that little angel,’ but more accurate would be to say, ‘Look at that little enemy of God.’ Now, of course we love that little baby and it's now not hopeless because our loving creator has made reconciliation with him within the reach of everyone. We can become a good friend of God and that close relationship with Jehovah will become our most valuable possession.”
Notice how he twice said, ‘when [if] we think about it?’ You have to do that: think about things and not just parrot sound bites to make people you hate look bad. Oh, you spiteful woman, who quotes scripture by the bushel basket but never lays hold on the one that applies, besides the reference to Adam in Genesis, the place to focus is here:
“…through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned—.” Romans 5:12
“when we were enemies we became reconciled to God through the death of his Son,” by exercising faith in him, which a baby cannot yet do, and thus is temporarily ‘grandfathered’ via the faith of it’s parents. (vs 10)
Now, as for Bro Lett, for a guy who will quote Job 12:11, “Does not the ear test out words As the tongue tastes food?” you’d almost think he’d test them out a little more before letting loose with a phrase that every evil cherry picker will use against him to “distort the right ways of Jehovah.”
Still, I hate to think what you would have done to Jesus, after his, ‘Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has everlasting life, and I will resurrect him on the last day; for my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink.’ John 6:54-55
Taking into consideration that passage in John, I would say Lett is supremely adhering to and following Christ as a model, more so than any of the other GB members.
Imagine: what sort of vile person would comb through a convention in which every talk explores the verse ‘seek peace and pursue it’ to find and exploit a faux pas?
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Peter Carroll reacted to BroRando in “Yahweh” or “Jehovah”?
John who proclaims that letter "J" is somehow evil and can't be used is nonsensical since he himself is named with the letter J. It's like you using the JW Insider. But he had no problem using JESUS which means JEHOVAH IS SALVATION until recently. To claim he can use John because English exist at the time he was born in 1949 is a strawman agruement. Maybe you should consider the source of where and whom it came from?
The ideology of removing JEWS is not new. Since Hitler was carrying water for the Catholic faith being a Catholic himself. It's like claiming to be a child advocate at Planned Parenthood and then advertising "We save childrens lives by aborting them."
I was simply being over simplistic in exposing his hyprocisy. Having the name JW or John while claiming names that begin with the letter "J" is somehow made-up, doesn't add any weight to his agruement but voids it. Since John now claims it's okay to use names with the letter "J" since 1949, why is he claiming today in 2022 it can't be used?
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Peter Carroll reacted to C-D67 in Bro Rando is a rogue jw, which jw's here believe in him?
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/b/r1/lp-e/bi10/19/83#study=discover KJV
That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.
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Peter Carroll reacted to Arauna in “Yahweh” or “Jehovah”?
These 12th century texts they are quoting comes AFTER the Hebrew copies made by the Hebrew scribes - the Masoretic Codexis and manuscripts of which Nehemia Gorden has already gone to inspect almost 2000 of them - to see if the pointer system (vowels) is in the same ink as the original text.
He has confirmed that the pronunciation of the name is Yehovah in the original Hebrew. And names such a Yehoram, Yehoshua, etc confirm this.
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Peter Carroll reacted to The Librarian in “Yahweh” or “Jehovah”?
Yet you continue to enter a JW forum and declare Jehovah is not God's name "repeatedly".......
Adios.... go find some other waters to play in and hurl insults.
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Peter Carroll reacted to Chioke Lin in George Benson in Concert - Cardiff, UK
Then you should understand your own abusive behavior and apply your response, by deceiving people that you are Christian.
3 Why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but fail to notice the beam in your own eye?
Once again, being labeled, here by people that don't know me, has no influence on me, but a great deal of influence by Satan to cause this kind of Christian division.
Your opinions are no better than mind. Likewise, the topic has now become about me, because of the whims of another instead of the topic. I'm forced to defend myself when you don't question the validity of others. All of you should be ashamed of yourselves.
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Peter Carroll reacted to TrueTomHarley in George Benson in Concert - Cardiff, UK
You dim and bitter bulb that sucks away light, if money was the object, the org would not continually advise young ones to tone it down, stay low-key, put Jehovah first over riches, and so forth! I mean, it’s the whole theme of this thread, which you ignore just to hurl an insult-bomb when you sense an opening..
On another day, you’ll be lambasting them for encouraging young people to be window cleaners whereas they should be chasing career and making money!
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Peter Carroll reacted to Arauna in George Benson in Concert - Cardiff, UK
I seem to be the only one to feel that a person who made a lot of money in his life should try to do more for Jah - not use all his energies he has left in furthering his career. I bet he does not have enough money to keep his BIG house going! But sell it - I do not think so.....
Any case - I stated my case - not because I am jealous but because I think of all the young talent out there who make Jehovah the first thing in their life and let all the opportunities go. I did this and I am not sorry ..... but I do not like it when these people are held up as an example! This happens in sports, music and many other fields.
Of course, those who put Jehovah fist receive blessings from Jehovah but sometimes a person will see another person, who should know better, taking all the opportunities coming their way to be in the limelight.... and like psalm 37 says - it is deceptive - because it seems as if it is going better with those who do not put Jehovah first.
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Peter Carroll reacted to TrueTomHarley in The Erosion of Dogmatism with Common Sense!
I thought I had logged into Instagram by mistake.