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    JW Insider got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Gerrit Loesch Condemns the UN in Hong Kong (clip)   
    How and where was this information from @Witness debunked? I thought that some of the claims had been exaggerated, but this was just my opinion. I also saw an attempt to debunk these claims that was little more than a collection of opinions.
    I assume then that you have the research?
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    JW Insider got a reaction from Anna in Akua Donkor and Jehovah's Witnesses   
    Quite the opposite. Orwell never lived and worked for communism. He even worked for British Intelligence for a time ratting out communists. He had some interest in democratic socialism, free health care, etc., which is a far cry from communism. But he was a confused, racist, antisemitic, conflicted man. And his issues with Stalin especially, which was the primary driver for writing "1984," were not about Stalin's communism, but about fears of Stalin's supposed capitalism. (A lot like some of the fears people have of China's market-oriented communism that you mention later in your post.)
    What you and I have seen is apparently pretty much the same thing. But this has nothing to do with your consistent inability to provide any evidence whatsoever for you repeated claims against Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the Ethiopian biologist, public health researcher and official who has served since 2017 as Director-General of the World Health Organization. Merely repeating someone else's racist rhetoric, apparently without any attempt or ability or desire to look into the lack of evidence, is the kind of thing that can make one guilty of warmongering and racism themselves, without even knowing what they are doing. Just because he is African, and knowing that some Africans are corrupt, should be seen as a vile and despicable reason for accepting anything bad someone has claimed about an African person. In this case, I think you need to look at evidence, not just racist or hateful claims.
    We actually agree on the immoral world and big brother dystopia, and I'm sure we agree 100% on the Akua Donkor video and article in the original topic here. But believing the worst about those who give evidence of being the worst, doesn't give us the right to just automatically believe the worst about those who give evidence of trying to act honestly. Those with the wherewithal to look into this will probably find that just as many people are fooled by far right media as are fooled by far left media.
    I can tell already that you know absolutely nothing about what I consider to be valid research methods.
    It should never be about articles, it should be about evidence. There are a lot of people in the world today who hear a video on Youtube that starts out "This is news that is being suppressed . . . " and they eat it up as if it's going to be true. Some Youtube videos will be well-researched and might even provide video evidence. But even video evidence is something to be careful about. I can think of dozens of examples, but you might even remember how this one was shared and retweeted millions of times:
    https://factcheck.afp.com/no-not-video-chinese-soldier-beating-uighur-muslim-having-copy-koran
    Turned out in that case that the video of a Chinese soldier beating a Uyghur Muslim for having a copy of the Quran, was actually "fake," as stated here:
    A video that has been viewed more than a million times since it was posted January 1, 2019 on social media purportedly shows a Chinese soldier beating a Uighur Muslim for having a copy of the Koran. The video is actually from 2017 and shows an Indonesian soldier hitting a thief.
    Even here, one should be skeptical of the claim that it wasn't what it was purported to be. But when the original video is found, and you can see it really was from a couple years earlier, and that the earlier video didn't have a Chinese flag pinned inside it, you are just starting to get somewhere with evidence. And if you know the political war-mongering or ideological reasons why it is so common for this type of fraud to be promoted, then it might make sense in fitting into another pattern of evidence. It actually still becomes only a tiny bit of evidence of the probability that that real evidence must be scarce if it has to be doctored and faked. But tiny bits of evidence never tell a whole story. It's a lot of work weighing evidence, and we end up trying to find people we can trust to do this, since no one has time to do it all themselves. And then we must remember, again, how easy it is to be fooled when we trust people. People will often build a trustworthy reputation on a specific matter, only to squander that trustworthiness in the promotion of their own ideological agenda.
    That's a common far-right claim, but the specifics usually lead to a dead-end, mostly because they show a complete (sometimes purposeful) misunderstanding of all schools of Marxist thought.
    Quite a harsh judgment. I hope I'm not judged even more harshly for pointing this out. Weighing evidence is, by definition, the consideration of as many possibilities as we can. Yet, we all have limitations. However, a person can go too far in the direction that your claim might take them. Not you personally so much, but I've seen it happen where people will say that their own far-right conspiratorial sources are much better than research and press, because all these trusted channels are controlled by untouchable powers. Sometimes this turns out to be true, of course. But I've seen some of these same persons turn against just about any science research just because a lot of science papers are biased towards the their powerful sponsors. They end up being driven into their own echo chambers, but not realizing they are being led there by a cacophony of dangerous voices. 
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    JW Insider got a reaction from Emma Rose in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    Wait... what? Minimal is the goal? Now you tell me?!?!?!?
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    JW Insider got a reaction from Anna in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    Wait... what? Minimal is the goal? Now you tell me?!?!?!?
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    JW Insider got a reaction from TrueTomHarley in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    Wait... what? Minimal is the goal? Now you tell me?!?!?!?
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    JW Insider reacted to TrueTomHarley in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    It may be that @derek1956will reassess whether he really belongs here. I am not sure that any of us really do, but to remain one must have a certain imperviousness, an overall strategy, and unflappability. One cannot respond to things as though personally.
    I know where he is coming from, though. It is initially shocking to see ones taunting the Most High, all the more so when they purposefully make themselves obtuse about how God works with and through humans. The fact that they have nothing to offer that is better doesn’t phase them in the slightest, as they do nothing but condemn the GB, their spiritual betters. 
    No, you don’t go calling people rats and idiots, nor judge just who is to die, for that is not our place. But he displays righteous indignation, a Godly jealousy toward those who would condemn ones working tirelessly in His name, imperfect though they may be, while they do nothing themselves. He won’t be criticized for this, though he may come to rethink the nature of his participation, or even whether he thinks it is advisable.
    Anything you put on the internet remains forever.  It is also instantly buried, so any gaffes need not be overly regretted—still, it does remain forever.
     
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    JW Insider got a reaction from César Chávez in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    My first ever meme to call my own. I figured if I could make one here, I can make one anywhere!
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    JW Insider got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    My first ever meme to call my own. I figured if I could make one here, I can make one anywhere!
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    JW Insider got a reaction from Emma Rose in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    My first ever meme to call my own. I figured if I could make one here, I can make one anywhere!
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    JW Insider reacted to TrueTomHarley in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    I’m not sure what you mean by clear. As stated, I was baptized in 73 and I thought it very possible, even likely, that the end would come in 75. But as the year dragged on and there was no end I do not recall any sense of letdown (let alone betrayal). “Oh, well, I guess it comes later,” I said. 
    It might have been different had I sold a house or made major changes. But then again, life throws stuff at us all the time. You suck it up and carry on. As to the “offending” brother, did he even have a house to sell at any time in his life? People do their best and sometimes are wrong. 
    “Sign here, kid—I’m gonna make you a star!”
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    JW Insider got a reaction from Anna in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    My first ever meme to call my own. I figured if I could make one here, I can make one anywhere!
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    JW Insider got a reaction from Arauna in Akua Donkor and Jehovah's Witnesses   
    Last night, I was just reading some old US newspapers on newspapers.com, for 1872, 1876, 1880, etc. This was one of the most common complaints for all the state jobs every time a new party came into power. He would reappoint all the state jobs for the new party no matter how efficient or experienced the previous person had become. This worked out to be pretty much the equivalent of sacking all the persons who voted against you.
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    JW Insider reacted to TrueTomHarley in UN investigator: Rights of minorities to worship undermined   
    I, too, heard the Jaws music playing.
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    JW Insider got a reaction from ComfortMyPeople in Love and Funerals in the Age of Zoom   
    I just attended a memorial service for my uncle yesterday. At least 800 persons tried to attend through Zoom. My uncle was part of a large extended family. About 400 stayed for the comments afterward, and they lasted for more than 2.5 more hours, making the entire memorial about 3.5 hours long. There were attendees from all over the world, including Dubai and China, but mostly Californian and South Carolina. Based on statistical averages there is probably a fair chance that at least one of the other 16,700 members of this forum was also on that same Zoom call, assuming most of those members are JWs.
    The brother who gave the talk continued to "host" the whole time. My aunt and a cousin allowed for anyone to speak who wanted to say something. Dozens of persons had examples to share of his sense of humor, funny incidents that happened in field service, and a lot of nice things to say about his sincerity and kindness when it came to shepherding. He had been a circuit overseer and substitute circuit overseer for a good part of his life.
    This second portion of course is mostly a new Zoom thing for us, where the personal experiences are offered, and even children sometimes speak about their grandpa and great-grandpa. But I saw so much love coming through, and no one seemed to want the experience to stop.
    It's only the second of such memorial services I have attended like this, but I have heard of another one a month ago.
    Just looking for comments, I guess, on whether others have experienced this. I think it's a very good thing, and I was glad that some non-Witness relatives could share this experience.
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    JW Insider reacted to Anna in Love and Funerals in the Age of Zoom   
    I am glad you shared this. I had a very similar experience just this past week with a memorial for an older sister that died. I was so impressed with the experience that I was almost moved to want to share it on here but then I thought nobody would be interested. So I'm glad you brought it up. 
    Our memorial had only half the attendance of yours, but we had people I had never met, from various  states as far as NY and California. It was very interesting meeting everyone. The memorial talk was one of the best I had heard. It was presented by a relative, who was not an elder (although he had been an elder at one time). The family chose him because they felt he knew the sister the best. Although there was the regular "witnessing" part of the talk, it only occupied about 10% of the total. The rest was all about the sister's life and how we are all looking forward to seeing her again. Both prayers were again, very personal. Afterwards we were put into "breakout" rooms, to meet and talk with the family, and with each other. It was really nice,  and I too felt the love and genuine friendship and brotherly connection.
    The whole thing lasted much longer than normal, nobody seemed to want to leave. We were expecting to be on for an hour, but we stayed on for well over 2.
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    JW Insider got a reaction from Anna in Love and Funerals in the Age of Zoom   
    I just attended a memorial service for my uncle yesterday. At least 800 persons tried to attend through Zoom. My uncle was part of a large extended family. About 400 stayed for the comments afterward, and they lasted for more than 2.5 more hours, making the entire memorial about 3.5 hours long. There were attendees from all over the world, including Dubai and China, but mostly Californian and South Carolina. Based on statistical averages there is probably a fair chance that at least one of the other 16,700 members of this forum was also on that same Zoom call, assuming most of those members are JWs.
    The brother who gave the talk continued to "host" the whole time. My aunt and a cousin allowed for anyone to speak who wanted to say something. Dozens of persons had examples to share of his sense of humor, funny incidents that happened in field service, and a lot of nice things to say about his sincerity and kindness when it came to shepherding. He had been a circuit overseer and substitute circuit overseer for a good part of his life.
    This second portion of course is mostly a new Zoom thing for us, where the personal experiences are offered, and even children sometimes speak about their grandpa and great-grandpa. But I saw so much love coming through, and no one seemed to want the experience to stop.
    It's only the second of such memorial services I have attended like this, but I have heard of another one a month ago.
    Just looking for comments, I guess, on whether others have experienced this. I think it's a very good thing, and I was glad that some non-Witness relatives could share this experience.
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    JW Insider got a reaction from Melinda Mills in Love and Funerals in the Age of Zoom   
    I just attended a memorial service for my uncle yesterday. At least 800 persons tried to attend through Zoom. My uncle was part of a large extended family. About 400 stayed for the comments afterward, and they lasted for more than 2.5 more hours, making the entire memorial about 3.5 hours long. There were attendees from all over the world, including Dubai and China, but mostly Californian and South Carolina. Based on statistical averages there is probably a fair chance that at least one of the other 16,700 members of this forum was also on that same Zoom call, assuming most of those members are JWs.
    The brother who gave the talk continued to "host" the whole time. My aunt and a cousin allowed for anyone to speak who wanted to say something. Dozens of persons had examples to share of his sense of humor, funny incidents that happened in field service, and a lot of nice things to say about his sincerity and kindness when it came to shepherding. He had been a circuit overseer and substitute circuit overseer for a good part of his life.
    This second portion of course is mostly a new Zoom thing for us, where the personal experiences are offered, and even children sometimes speak about their grandpa and great-grandpa. But I saw so much love coming through, and no one seemed to want the experience to stop.
    It's only the second of such memorial services I have attended like this, but I have heard of another one a month ago.
    Just looking for comments, I guess, on whether others have experienced this. I think it's a very good thing, and I was glad that some non-Witness relatives could share this experience.
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    JW Insider got a reaction from Emma Rose in Love and Funerals in the Age of Zoom   
    I just attended a memorial service for my uncle yesterday. At least 800 persons tried to attend through Zoom. My uncle was part of a large extended family. About 400 stayed for the comments afterward, and they lasted for more than 2.5 more hours, making the entire memorial about 3.5 hours long. There were attendees from all over the world, including Dubai and China, but mostly Californian and South Carolina. Based on statistical averages there is probably a fair chance that at least one of the other 16,700 members of this forum was also on that same Zoom call, assuming most of those members are JWs.
    The brother who gave the talk continued to "host" the whole time. My aunt and a cousin allowed for anyone to speak who wanted to say something. Dozens of persons had examples to share of his sense of humor, funny incidents that happened in field service, and a lot of nice things to say about his sincerity and kindness when it came to shepherding. He had been a circuit overseer and substitute circuit overseer for a good part of his life.
    This second portion of course is mostly a new Zoom thing for us, where the personal experiences are offered, and even children sometimes speak about their grandpa and great-grandpa. But I saw so much love coming through, and no one seemed to want the experience to stop.
    It's only the second of such memorial services I have attended like this, but I have heard of another one a month ago.
    Just looking for comments, I guess, on whether others have experienced this. I think it's a very good thing, and I was glad that some non-Witness relatives could share this experience.
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    JW Insider got a reaction from Isabella in Love and Funerals in the Age of Zoom   
    I just attended a memorial service for my uncle yesterday. At least 800 persons tried to attend through Zoom. My uncle was part of a large extended family. About 400 stayed for the comments afterward, and they lasted for more than 2.5 more hours, making the entire memorial about 3.5 hours long. There were attendees from all over the world, including Dubai and China, but mostly Californian and South Carolina. Based on statistical averages there is probably a fair chance that at least one of the other 16,700 members of this forum was also on that same Zoom call, assuming most of those members are JWs.
    The brother who gave the talk continued to "host" the whole time. My aunt and a cousin allowed for anyone to speak who wanted to say something. Dozens of persons had examples to share of his sense of humor, funny incidents that happened in field service, and a lot of nice things to say about his sincerity and kindness when it came to shepherding. He had been a circuit overseer and substitute circuit overseer for a good part of his life.
    This second portion of course is mostly a new Zoom thing for us, where the personal experiences are offered, and even children sometimes speak about their grandpa and great-grandpa. But I saw so much love coming through, and no one seemed to want the experience to stop.
    It's only the second of such memorial services I have attended like this, but I have heard of another one a month ago.
    Just looking for comments, I guess, on whether others have experienced this. I think it's a very good thing, and I was glad that some non-Witness relatives could share this experience.
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    JW Insider got a reaction from Joan Kennedy in Love and Funerals in the Age of Zoom   
    I just attended a memorial service for my uncle yesterday. At least 800 persons tried to attend through Zoom. My uncle was part of a large extended family. About 400 stayed for the comments afterward, and they lasted for more than 2.5 more hours, making the entire memorial about 3.5 hours long. There were attendees from all over the world, including Dubai and China, but mostly Californian and South Carolina. Based on statistical averages there is probably a fair chance that at least one of the other 16,700 members of this forum was also on that same Zoom call, assuming most of those members are JWs.
    The brother who gave the talk continued to "host" the whole time. My aunt and a cousin allowed for anyone to speak who wanted to say something. Dozens of persons had examples to share of his sense of humor, funny incidents that happened in field service, and a lot of nice things to say about his sincerity and kindness when it came to shepherding. He had been a circuit overseer and substitute circuit overseer for a good part of his life.
    This second portion of course is mostly a new Zoom thing for us, where the personal experiences are offered, and even children sometimes speak about their grandpa and great-grandpa. But I saw so much love coming through, and no one seemed to want the experience to stop.
    It's only the second of such memorial services I have attended like this, but I have heard of another one a month ago.
    Just looking for comments, I guess, on whether others have experienced this. I think it's a very good thing, and I was glad that some non-Witness relatives could share this experience.
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    JW Insider got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Chinese Coronavirus could be a bioweapon that escaped containment   
    Not really a bombshell though based on the January 2nd date.
    Someone has done some good work here (video below) on the actual timeline. He's an American who has lived in China for a few years. He reads and speaks Chinese very well. (He's not a pro-Communist spokesperson, and has even been involved in the same types of large anti-government protests that thousands of other Chinese citizens have participated in.)
    Even the article on Xi's knowledge of the epidemic actually appears to be a good thing, not something nefarious. It fits right into the timeline:
    On January 20th, Xi officially acknowledged that there was an epidemic going on. That was two days before he first spoke publicly about it. In the speech released by Xi’s ruling Communist Party, the president told his party members on Jan 7 that he was already taking measures to contain the coronavirus outbreak.
     
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    JW Insider reacted to Anna in Thought for the day- walking in the name of Jehovah   
    Do you think it's possible for someone who is not yet aware of the importance of God's name, to feel they have relationship with him?
    I know my grandpa loved God, and talked to him as if he was a friend. But he never had the opportunity to realise the importance of using God's name.
    What about those through the centuries, who may have been anointed, but may have only vaguely been aware of God's name, and in some cases not even known it.
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    JW Insider reacted to Arauna in Stele of the priest Si Gabbor   
    The city of Ur was a moongod city, Haran where Abraham lived until his father died was a moongod city.   Sinai was also known to be a moongod region.  Moon worship was as prevalent as sun worship.  Many desert regions worshipped the moon because of the dew that came at night.  
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    JW Insider reacted to TrueTomHarley in Water has been definitively found on the Moon, Nasa has said   
    Angel on the right shoulder: “Don’t say it, TrueTom. Just don’t. Everyone has heard it a million times. Haven’t you embarrassed yourself enough?”
    Devil on the left shoulder: “Go for it, TrueTom. They’ll fall over themselves laughing and they’ll think you SO witty. Think of the great NAME you’ll be making for yourself!”
    Yes, but so far no one has answered the question: “What is H2O 4?”
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    JW Insider got a reaction from Anna in Water has been definitively found on the Moon, Nasa has said   
    OH!
    Some of what looks like water is actually "OH" not H2O, and this hydroxyl can be a real "OH-OH."
    The link you gave mentioned:
    But it was unclear whether that hydrogen was in the form of hydroxyl – the chemical that makes up drain cleaners – or in the form of H2O, or water.
    The NIH.gov site cites a biochemical journal about hydrogen peroxide (HOOH), which adds this:
    . . . to generate hydroxyl radicals (OH.) from H2O2 has been investigated . . .
    And all this, of course, was presented, just as a setup for the old H2O2 joke:

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