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This verse does not literaly imply we are saving anyone. It is the action of preaching which saves because it involves the other person to listen and obey. They themselves have to bring of themself to jehovah AFTER we have done our duty out of love. 
However, we should all be careful by our verbal  communications and actions to not be a cause of stumbling.  It is not what goes in but what comes out which defiles us.

Unless you are Timothy:
(1 Timothy 4:16) . . .Persevere in these things, for by doing this you will save both yourself and those who listen to you.
Or Paul?
(1 Corinthians 9:22) 22 To the weak I became weak, in order to gain the weak. I have become all things to people of all sorts, so that I might by all possible means save some.
Or those who declare the good news?
(Romans 10:13-15) . . .. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.” 14 However, how will they call on him if they have not put faith in him? How, in turn, will they put faith in him about whom they have not heard? How, in turn, will they hear without someone to preach? 15 How, in turn, will they preach unless they have been sent out? Just as it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who declare good news of good things!”
Of course, I will agree in advance with the explanation I would expect you could give.
(Romans 14:4-10) 4 Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for Jehovah can make him stand.. . . 10 But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you also look down on your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God.

This is very true. (I never thought it did, either.) It occurred to me to include the scripture because it's a reference I had in mind when @Anna was speaking of those in Calcutta, for example.

Unless you are Timothy:
(1 Timothy 4:16) . . .Persevere in these things, for by doing this you will save both yourself and those who listen to you.
Or Paul?
(1 Corinthians 9:22) 22 To the weak I became weak, in order to gain the weak. I have become all things to people of all sorts, so that I might by all possible means save some.
Or those who declare the good news?
(Romans 10:13-15) . . .. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.” 14 However, how will they call on him if they have not put faith in him? How, in turn, will they put faith in him about whom they have not heard? How, in turn, will they hear without someone to preach? 15 How, in turn, will they preach unless they have been sent out? Just as it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who declare good news of good things!”
Of course, I will agree in advance with the explanation I would expect you could give.
(Romans 14:4-10) 4 Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for Jehovah can make him stand.. . . 10 But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you also look down on your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God.

This is very true. (I never thought it did, either.) It occurred to me to include the scripture because it's a reference I had in mind when @Anna was speaking of those in Calcutta, for example.

Unless you are Timothy:
(1 Timothy 4:16) . . .Persevere in these things, for by doing this you will save both yourself and those who listen to you.
Or Paul?
(1 Corinthians 9:22) 22 To the weak I became weak, in order to gain the weak. I have become all things to people of all sorts, so that I might by all possible means save some.
Or those who declare the good news?
(Romans 10:13-15) . . .. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.” 14 However, how will they call on him if they have not put faith in him? How, in turn, will they put faith in him about whom they have not heard? How, in turn, will they hear without someone to preach? 15 How, in turn, will they preach unless they have been sent out? Just as it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who declare good news of good things!”
Of course, I will agree in advance with the explanation I would expect you could give.
(Romans 14:4-10) 4 Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for Jehovah can make him stand.. . . 10 But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you also look down on your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God.

This is very true. (I never thought it did, either.) It occurred to me to include the scripture because it's a reference I had in mind when @Anna was speaking of those in Calcutta, for example.

Ha! Right in the title we see how JWI is playing with us all, up to his old tricks of putting the cart before the horse:
How a Christmas song would lead me to beleive that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.
Is it “I before E except after L?” I don’t think so.

...he would have better said "provided an OPPORTUNITY to be saved"...
But you know that already.

To me this is why I don't sweat it when someone says that I gave a "bad witness". I try not to, but it's going to happen and happen repeatedly. We all have patterns. I just keep trying and relax while doing so. Straining to me or OCD-like obsessive behavior like somehow I held the life of another person in my hands is spiritual narcissism in my view. The same kind of spiritual narcissism I see in apostates. If the GB screws up, so what? They'll figure out how they screwed up and do better next time. I doesn't change me or my responsibility to take charge and responsibility for my own actions or beliefs. You want to know who's engaging in idolatrous creature-worship? It's apostates. They imagine the organization is equal to Jehovah or Jesus and they aren't. We aren't Catholics with a holy see and a pope. Jehovah may be using the organization, but it's not infallible, nor do they have any urim and thummim. They have the bible, just like the rest of us. It isn't "disrespectful" to take note of that. The path to apostasy in my view is an over-reliance on human organizations as if these were Jehovah or Jesus. Organizations are necessary, but not sufficient. They can't point the way, but we individually have to make decisions. We CAN disagree and make our own conscientious decisions and we should. True that some of us in my view want to ride the coat-tails of others, but eventually they'll be bumped off by time and circumstance to stand on their own biblical legs.

Unless you are Timothy:
(1 Timothy 4:16) . . .Persevere in these things, for by doing this you will save both yourself and those who listen to you.
Or Paul?
(1 Corinthians 9:22) 22 To the weak I became weak, in order to gain the weak. I have become all things to people of all sorts, so that I might by all possible means save some.
Or those who declare the good news?
(Romans 10:13-15) . . .. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.” 14 However, how will they call on him if they have not put faith in him? How, in turn, will they put faith in him about whom they have not heard? How, in turn, will they hear without someone to preach? 15 How, in turn, will they preach unless they have been sent out? Just as it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who declare good news of good things!”
Of course, I will agree in advance with the explanation I would expect you could give.
(Romans 14:4-10) 4 Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for Jehovah can make him stand.. . . 10 But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you also look down on your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God.

A simple answer to both questions would be yes. 
I don't think people in the slums of Calcutta have been spoken to by a JW..... at least not to the point of being able to make an informed decision*
At Armaggedon, only those people who have rejected the truth about Jesus and God will be destroyed.  People cannot reject something they  have never heard of, or don't understand.
*An interesting article here:
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1987128
It makes a point that: Very few are interested enough to want a Bible study. Making a living and bettering their station in life seem to be the only things on their mind. That, coupled with minimal, if any, education, makes it very difficult for them to accept the good news.
 
 

We cannot fathom out every situation except understanding that many lost their lives unnecessarily and Jehovah kept  judged the living according to their heart condition. In this situation, most who died are not in Gehenna but in Sheol, just  like the opposers who came up against Moses. Jehovah promised that there would be death no longer and that we will not remember the bad things in the past. So obviously Jehovah has everything single outcome under control - even if we do not want to think about it in this way.
It is the final outcome that is important because Jehovah has the power to rectify everything else. 
In the next two to five years - many people will lose their lives due to hunger, war, untimely death through pestilence (as prophecy indicated).  Much of it is going to be due to the actions of other humans or unforeseen circumstances.  I assume that most of them will get a resurrection.   But when Armageddon - the Day of Jehovah arrives, those hardened god-haters will pay the ultimate price. 

No the Org. is NOT the means to our salvation... but Jesus' ransom  and his father Jehovah.  If you are dedicated to Jehovah and his Son and you are associated with his org.  you are assisted to maintain pure worship (without idolatry etc.) and to remain in a relationship with them. This helps you to remain in this life-saving situation. 
From your hateful attitude and complaints about everything (except complaints against Satan's organization - which is world wide) - I would say you are well on the way to self-destruction.
 

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What a weird congregation you have.
It’s like when the Regional brother and his wife hit town and it isn’t yet clear just what congregation they will be attending. “Are we in that stage of trying to haul in the big fish?” I ask them, making gestures of reeling in the big one. They reply yes. “Well,” I tell them, “just between us, I’m not sure they even believe in God at those other congregations.”

Speaking of hellfire. How many here wish that Jesus had never used the illustration of Lazarus and the rich man?

I think the way I should have put it is that the doctrines don’t change. Once you’ve dealt with them, you’ve dealt with them. Accordingly, in any given year, our publications will barely mention trinity and hellfire beyond a reference or two to how they are “trash’ that interfere with building a relationship with God. Very seldom are there specific paragraphs on trinity, let alone an entire article. Mostly they just refer people back to the Trinity brochure, or whatever has replaced it.
My own blog is the same way. In sixteen years I have maybe 5 or 6 posts specifically on the Trinity. In the Enjoy Life Forever interactive brochure there is almost nothing on trinity or hellfire. All I found was something in the Explore section of lesson 13, How False Religion Misrepresents God:
“For generations, religions have told lies that make God seem distant and cruel. Learn the truth about three of those lies.“Lies That Make God Seem Unlovable” (The Watchtower, November 1, 2013)”
It was even a little frustrating to me because I did have a Bible student from fundamentalist background, a very studious guy always wanting to ‘dig deeper.’ So I dug into how all renderings of hell stem from just 3 original language words—sheol, hades, Gehenna, (with a single exception of one ‘tartarus’), and that all renderings of hellfire come only from Gehenna. I didn’t see where that was specifically dealt with in depth and I ended up going off on my own tangents—Insight book material, and so forth. It is not part of the basic study guide.
Few people seriously believe these doctrines anymore—people have “moved on” from doctrines—and the ones who do, fundamentalists for the most part, are seldom persuaded no matter how much you quote scripture. They are the people who “accepted Jesus” in a flash. Some preacher said “come down and be saved” and in an instant they did, having had no intention of doing so before. They get their “truth” by revelation, not by Bible study. They thereafter cherry pick the Bible to find verses that back up what they believe. Where they find passages that don’t, they dismiss them as poor interpretation, corruption, bad translation, the Bible is too complicated to know, and so forth. Their minds were made up at their “conversion” that happened in an instant. “I’ve never convinced one” my favorite circuit overseer said, an old timer now deceased, on arguing with people over the trinity. 
If we are oldtimers ourselves, and we remember a time when these doctrines were important to people, we can easily fall into the mindset that they still are. But they rarely are. The approach of the Enjoy Life Forever is not to teach people doctrines they don’t believe in anyway only to thereafter tell them they are wrong. Instead, it just teaches Bible truth, and reserves the ‘Lies that Make God Seem Unlovable’ article for anyone still attached to those beliefs. 
Of course, if you happen to be surrounded by people who do love and cherish these doctrines, then lots of time spent disproving them may be just the ticket. But those people are becoming rare, they are rapidly dying out and being replaced by persons who don’t give a hoot. I think that’s way the Watchtower devotes relatively little space to the “false doctrines of Christendom.” They try to keep up, not with how people used to be, but how they are now. They focus on teaching the positive things of the Bible, rather than disproving the negative
 

Yes. We need you. There’s no end to the outrageous things they’ve been saying in your absense.

Maybe it’s that “Patiently waiting for the Truth” is exactly the opposite of the course Jesus recommended:
““Keep on asking, and it will be given you; keep on seeking, and you will find; keep on knocking, and it will be opened to you;”  (Matt 7:7)
Though most modern Bibles have removed the next verse as spurious, some versions read:
”And some of his lazy disciples said, ‘Isn’t it enough to patiently wait?”

But Saul was chosen and then rejected…as was Judas…wouldn’t that be like saying once saved always saved sort of principle…I watched the Family sometime ago…it made me realise the cunning of Satan to pose and seduce people into believing they ( politicians and all associated with them ) were doing it in Gods name and maybe even bring about Peace and security in his name….
I was glad I watched it…as it helped me understand some things.

Along these lines I decided to harass this one brother (who's really annoyed me, so fair play) ... he's an IRS Lawyer/CPA... anyway I asked him:
"Dan...Could Jehovah have created Adam and Even with faux free will such that these imagined they were free to perform a forbidden or evil action, but lacked the capacity to actually act on the imagined act?"
Dan says "Sure, Jehovah could have done that."
I continue..."So then, if he had done that, would Adam or Eve have eaten from the tree of the knowledge of good and bad?"
Dan responds "Well, no, of course."
I ask..."So what do you suppose Adam and Eve have thought when presented with Satan's challenge"
Dan says "I suppose they might have considered the situation, well at least Eve might, since it says she was deceived, but she wouldn't have eaten, because of not having free will. She'd have been wired to continue doing good, even though she had the capacity to consider doing the wrong thing."
Then I say "In all this, though she would have felt free, though wouldn't she...both she and Adam?"
Dan responds "In this thought experiment, the answer would be 'Yes'."
Then I ask "So then, the fall of man, death and sin would never have taken place?"
Dan says "Correct."
And I continue "...and Adam and Eve would imagine in all this that they were still free moral agents."
Dan says "That's what faux free will looks like."
And I continue "So we'd all be in a paradise earth now, then wouldn't we, and none the wiser for lacking free will..."
Dan says "Sure...."
And I say "So why didn't Jehovah do it that way? We'd all be happy and be congratulating ourselves on how we we are so wise that we always obey Jehovah..."
Dan says "Well Jehovah would know..."
And I blurt out "So it's all about him is it?"
Dan says "What about the angels? They'd know we didn't have free will?"
I say "Would they? If Jehovah could make humans with faux free will, then couldn't he likewise do so with any sentient being giving some actual free will and some faux and not allowing the knowledge of who here or there actually possesses the same?"
Dan says "What about love? They couldn't actually love each other or Jehovah."
I say "With faux free will you could imagine you were doing so..."
Then I say "Don't worry Dan. I'm sure we have free will. Maybe."
 

No, I don't agree with that. The December 1, 1916 Watchtower says this with respect to the belief already held by thousands:
"that he filled the office of 'that faithful and wise servant' and that his great work was giving to the household of faith meat in due season. His modesty and humility precluded him from openly claiming this title, but he admitted as much in private conversation." 
So, was the Watchtower telling the truth when it said that Russell had admitted that he filled the office of that faithful and wise servant?
(Proverbs 27:2)  Let someone else praise you, and not your own mouth; Others, and not your own lips.
I think it's pretty easy to see that Russell had "staked the claim" to being the 'faithful and wise servant' by allowing others to make the claim publicly. This would start with his wife making the claim for him, beginning in 1895. Until then, Russell had taught that it was all Christians in the entire household of faith who needed to follow the example of such a faithful servant. But then in 1896, he said he was now changing that belief because the Scriptures gave him no choice. It was now no longer applied to individuals (plural), but just ONE individual man who would be providing spiritual food at the proper time ("meat in due season"). But notice that he added that he could not let modesty get in the way of making this doctrinal change.
"it would be wrong to allow modesty or any other consideration, good or bad, to warp our judgment in the exposition of [Matthew 24:45] . . . to which proposition we agree." -- March 1, 1896 Watch Tower
This explains why Russell claimed in the April 15, 1904 Watch Tower that the Lord would
"specially use one member of his church as the channel or instrument through which he would send the appropriate messages, spiritual nourishment appropriate at that time."
In 1906, Russell would claim that:
"the truths I present, as God's mouthpiece . . . were ... revealed . . . especially since 1870 and particularly since 1880. . . . and if I did not speak, and no other agent could be found, the very stones would cry out." -- July 15, 1906 Watch Tower
In 1911, Russell spoke at the Convention, where other speakers would say things like the following, and which the Watch Tower Society published in the 1911 Convention Report.
"... the Lord . . . has placed Pastor Russell in charge of the work. . . . We are glad therefore to recognize him as 'that servant,' spoken by the Lord . . . doing ... the work the Lord appointed him to do.
Russell also published letters in multiple issues of the Watch Tower which addressed him as "that Servant" and acknowledged that he was the one faithful servant providing "meat in due season" for the household of faith.

Remember, there was a time when Rutherford hated even the term "religion" because by it he meant "organized" religion. It wasn't until Covington started arguing with him that they needed to use the term religion in order to get legal recognition in other countries that he softened a bit. In the booklet that Covington wrote, even as late as 1950, he had to explain to other Witnesses why it was going to be OK to use the term religion. Reminds me a bit of how L. Ron Hubbard also distanced himself from religion until his lawyers realized the tax trouble they were in. They even put a cross like symbol on their buildings now. Hubbard would be rolling over on his planet.
But, of course, Rutherford made us more organized than ever from a hierarchical top-down perspective. Can't hardly see how we'd function without such a high level of organization, with so many millions of us, so much coordinated activity, so many publications, so many updates (even new songs before the next songbook is printed), etc.